...Because if you read his dribble, it's clear, he thinks Open Source doesn't work and closed source does! I call it dribble because Open Source helps make us profitable, every single day.
Besides, Open Source vs closed source is not really my beef with Microsoft. What I hate them for is the way they behave as if no other fish should have the right to live in the ocean. They kill other companies by either cutting of the oxygen supply or by gobbling them up, whole.
Why can't they at least be more like Cisco? Cisco tends to buy companies and then let them simply exist, intact -- most of the time. Makes for a much healthier ecosystem if you nurture instead of vanquish.
To me, that's really where Open Source helps. I have to hope Open Source can beat the crap out of Microsoft to help level the playing field, once and for all. When the vast majority of the market accepted open hardware standards, it made it difficult for IBM -- the big bully of hardware, at the time -- to wrest the market back (remember the PS2?). Hopefully, Open Source will have the same effect on the big bully of software.
However, at least in terms of [1]stability and [2]security, Linux certainly outperforms Windows, if not by much these days. And it probably isn't far from Windows in terms of raw [3]speed.
Hard to match
1) stability through fever-pitched-bug-fixing (open source) vs. mere self-monitoring-of-doomed-processes.
2) security-by-design vs. security-largely-through-obscurity.
3) the raw speed of having no CPU cycles to have to burn on the GUI becuase you can entirely remove the GUI!
OTOH, Windows makes for a nice workstation. Why not use the right tool for the right job? Can't we all just get along?
Throw Microsoft's billions at Linux and Windows would instantly become a laughable joke.
Uh, in the back office and in the data center, Windows is a lughable joke. (Yes, most data centers tout Windows, but that's because customers demand it.)
Who would stand to lose the most if Linux were to gain a ubiquitous foothold? Probably not Microsoft. Think about it, there's lots and lots of money at stake in unbridled spam.
Mine runs for about three months at a time, too, but I'm sure there will be 20,000 Slashdot "users" who are willing to claim that we're lying.
You're lying.
I, on the otherhand, happen to be sitting. No... Not on my other hand.
But what's your point?
Ok, and now we need 19,999 more like this post to fulfill this AC's dream. Yeeeeeaaaah! We're going to get a bunch of Slashdotters to fulfill this AC's dream!!!!!! And not only are we going to New Hampshire, we're going to South Carolina and Arizona and North Dakota and New Mexico, and we're going to California and Texas and New York. And we're going to South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan. And then we're going to Washington, D.C. to fulfill this AC's dream! Yeeeeeaaaah!!!!!!
BTW, the part in quotes is authored by Abraham Lincoln but reflects the U.S. general idea of "We the People..." (i.e. the Declaration of Independence). People refering to a "Microsoft tax" seems rather apropos, as well -- ref.: the Boston Tea Party.
I think we need to just grit our teeth, clench our buttocks [...]
Wouldn't that be "clinch our teeth" and... Err. Never mind.
Truth is, with the level of PR that certain buttocks clinchers (pronounced "Darl") have provided Linux, lately, I can imagine Linux adoption will only be further accelerated.
Frankly, I hope SCO keeps the clinching and gritting up for a long, long time. There's no such thing as bad PR.
In fact, I hope Microsoft jumps in and starts ranting away about... Oh, that's right: Done.
They do not include the zillion corporate intranet servers...
Of all the intranets we install and service for small to large businesses, 100% of them run Apache. That's about 3-4 servers per month, and growing. We know 4 of the 5 competitors in our market, very well. For the vendors we know, all install Apache, exclusively.
Yes. Thanks to the "blaster outbreaks and the growing number of vpns", Apache is also rapidly growing inside the LAN market space.
I pity the world if you become the norm. How pathetically sad.
Yeah, 'cause we normalites will just keep:
* Flying instead of taking the hose-and-buggy, cross country
* Using word-processors instead of painting pictures on cave walls
* Keep using the darn faucet instead of drinking right out of the watering hole
Real pathetic, indeed. There's nothing more pathetic than taking advantage of every available shortcut to save time for better things.
My spouse and I share an office. We sit across from each other. We can each look to the left of our monitors and see the other's face -- no yelling required (especially after putting the Athlon with jet-engine-like fan in the next room; door shut).
We still IM each other, every day. Why? Because we read a lot of web information and it's just so convenient to post a link to the other about our findings.
Or when a family member IMs one of us, it's easy to just copy the Jabber log out of gaim and paste it into the other's message window and share a conversation.
Or when a client IMs one of us, we can let the other in on the question or panic-stricken demand for help and colaborate on a course of action.
Google results:
"European Federation for Immunogenetics"?
"European Forest Institute"?
"Energy Federation Incorporated"?
"English For Internet"?
"Electronics For Imaging"?
"Electronic Field Instrument"?
"Radio Frequency Interference"?
"Extensible Firmware Interface"?
To all adoring MSDN fans, I've *made* it! You TOO can *make* it! Here's how:
...and here are some mistakes I made along the way:
1) Used some other language, rather than one of Microsoft's
2) Bought software^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H real estate instead of leasing it (like Microsoft's.Net)
3) Used a development model, other than Microsoft's
4) Developed a lousy, unique-architecture of an application, rather than yielding to Microsoft's
5) Developed a for-the-clueless development platform for a clueful development crowd, rather than just yielding to Microsoft's tools
6 & 7) Trusted people, rather than work everything through attorneys (which, by the way, one must trust) -- like Microsoft does
7) We tried to build a better platform, rather than use Microsoft's
Uh, you'd better check your math. There's much more than 5% going to someone else. Try more like 100-200% of the present value of your home.
Try this out: Multiply your monthly payment times 360 (the number of payments per year, times 30 years -- the typical home loan term). Now divide that amount by the amount you owe the bank. Should be 2.3, more or less, or 230%. And since, on payment, you'll have bought and own 100% out of that 230%, the amount you'll be paying someone else for the privilege is around 130%!
See? Isn't *compound* interest fun? That 5% is not "simple" interest, after all.
It is a good thing you're monthly payments are lower, though. Now you have more "disposable" income to buy, er..., disposables.
I shorted A31 to ground with a screwdriver on my Motorola MC68060 board. It blew a pullup resistor on an open collector output driver. Now A31 is always low -- and I'm too lazy to replace the tiny little 100 ohm surface mount. It runs just fine as long as I don't address high memory.
How to improve Windows:
Improve the company that makes Windows: Were we to develop a multimedia product for Linux, we could be far more certain that our Linux vendor would not eventually take over the whole market pie (like a Commie Dictator) by obscuring the API to Linux and using other draconian tactics.
You have embittered the very people who once rallied to your banner and helped you build a once great product. We don't fear Open Source for any reason; We fear Microsoft.
How to improve Linux:
Take over 99.9% of the consumer, embedded, laptop, desktop and server markets -- faster than it has been. Put the Destroyer of free and open computing markets out of business. BTW, this survey feels like being watched by an All Seeing Eye...
[end]
(Just felt good to get 5+ years of bitterness off my chest.)
I tried to help a client with Windows 2000 Server, yesterday. He bough a copy of XP Pro because Win2k had stopped being useful (after a virus mangled the registry). I loaded Knoppix and discovered he had dual SCSI drives. No big deal, right? XP Pro would not install because of those drives! (Of course the driver disks and the geek who installed them were long gone, two state lines away.)
But don't tell me Windows has any better support for hardware than Linux. This is not the only occurrence, either: Certain IR mice; Certain monitors; Certain NIC cards; There's a bunch of times Linux "just worked" where Windows has failed. Windows is everywhere and I'm so sick of supporting Windows. I come home exhausted, every day from fighting with this crap (I must reboot this toy OS about a hundred times a day).
On the other hand, I never "sell" Linux to my clients. I sell Mozilla (pop-up-killer - and tabs are nice), OpenOffice.org (upgrade-killer) and applications that run on Apache/PHP/Postgres (Access/ACT!-killer). Someday, they'll be able to switch to Linux -- when Point, QuickBooks and Quicken are supported -- and not skip a beat.
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...Because if you read his dribble, it's clear, he thinks Open Source doesn't work and closed source does! I call it dribble because Open Source helps make us profitable, every single day.
Besides, Open Source vs closed source is not really my beef with Microsoft. What I hate them for is the way they behave as if no other fish should have the right to live in the ocean. They kill other companies by either cutting of the oxygen supply or by gobbling them up, whole.
Why can't they at least be more like Cisco? Cisco tends to buy companies and then let them simply exist, intact -- most of the time. Makes for a much healthier ecosystem if you nurture instead of vanquish.
To me, that's really where Open Source helps. I have to hope Open Source can beat the crap out of Microsoft to help level the playing field, once and for all. When the vast majority of the market accepted open hardware standards, it made it difficult for IBM -- the big bully of hardware, at the time -- to wrest the market back (remember the PS2?). Hopefully, Open Source will have the same effect on the big bully of software.
However, at least in terms of [1]stability and [2]security, Linux certainly outperforms Windows, if not by much these days. And it probably isn't far from Windows in terms of raw [3]speed.
Hard to match
1) stability through fever-pitched-bug-fixing (open source) vs. mere self-monitoring-of-doomed-processes.
2) security-by-design vs. security-largely-through-obscurity.
3) the raw speed of having no CPU cycles to have to burn on the GUI becuase you can entirely remove the GUI!
OTOH, Windows makes for a nice workstation. Why not use the right tool for the right job? Can't we all just get along?
Throw Microsoft's billions at Linux and Windows would instantly become a laughable joke.
Uh, in the back office and in the data center, Windows is a lughable joke. (Yes, most data centers tout Windows, but that's because customers demand it.)
Who would stand to lose the most if Linux were to gain a ubiquitous foothold? Probably not Microsoft. Think about it, there's lots and lots of money at stake in unbridled spam.
...
Plan:
1. Infect willing relays.
2. Divert everyone's attention to poor SCO.
3.
4. Profit
Err... 4. Spam the Universe while Linux is derided for being "that hacker software".
Widespread Linux would make the world a harder place for spammers to live. By making Linux look bad, spammers win.
Mine runs for about three months at a time, too, but I'm sure there will be 20,000 Slashdot "users" who are willing to claim that we're lying.
You're lying.
I, on the otherhand, happen to be sitting. No... Not on my other hand.
But what's your point?
Ok, and now we need 19,999 more like this post to fulfill this AC's dream. Yeeeeeaaaah! We're going to get a bunch of Slashdotters to fulfill this AC's dream!!!!!! And not only are we going to New Hampshire, we're going to South Carolina and Arizona and North Dakota and New Mexico, and we're going to California and Texas and New York. And we're going to South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan. And then we're going to Washington, D.C. to fulfill this AC's dream! Yeeeeeaaaah!!!!!!
BTW, the part in quotes is authored by Abraham Lincoln but reflects the U.S. general idea of "We the People..." (i.e. the Declaration of Independence). People refering to a "Microsoft tax" seems rather apropos, as well -- ref.: the Boston Tea Party.
Gee. Thanks... :-[
I think we need to just grit our teeth, clench our buttocks [...]
Wouldn't that be "clinch our teeth" and... Err. Never mind.
Truth is, with the level of PR that certain buttocks clinchers (pronounced "Darl") have provided Linux, lately, I can imagine Linux adoption will only be further accelerated.
Frankly, I hope SCO keeps the clinching and gritting up for a long, long time. There's no such thing as bad PR.
In fact, I hope Microsoft jumps in and starts ranting away about... Oh, that's right: Done.
You haven't understood a thing about your new surroundings, have you, Dodo...
They do not include the zillion corporate intranet servers...
Of all the intranets we install and service for small to large businesses, 100% of them run Apache. That's about 3-4 servers per month, and growing. We know 4 of the 5 competitors in our market, very well. For the vendors we know, all install Apache, exclusively.
Yes. Thanks to the "blaster outbreaks and the growing number of vpns", Apache is also rapidly growing inside the LAN market space.
Maybe it's tricky to count market share
It's tricky, alright. It's obvious to anyone that Microsoft's IIS is the clear leader.
Look, if those figures were real, then Apache would be constantly attacked by hoards of script kiddies. [ducks under desk]
No, it just looked like lots of work. You really appreciate "quiet". You should run a sound studio!
I pity the world if you become the norm. How pathetically sad.
Yeah, 'cause we normalites will just keep:
* Flying instead of taking the hose-and-buggy, cross country
* Using word-processors instead of painting pictures on cave walls
* Keep using the darn faucet instead of drinking right out of the watering hole
Real pathetic, indeed. There's nothing more pathetic than taking advantage of every available shortcut to save time for better things.
I might be able to help you with that.
All I can say is: Wow...
My spouse and I share an office. We sit across from each other. We can each look to the left of our monitors and see the other's face -- no yelling required (especially after putting the Athlon with jet-engine-like fan in the next room; door shut).
We still IM each other, every day. Why? Because we read a lot of web information and it's just so convenient to post a link to the other about our findings.
Or when a family member IMs one of us, it's easy to just copy the Jabber log out of gaim and paste it into the other's message window and share a conversation.
Or when a client IMs one of us, we can let the other in on the question or panic-stricken demand for help and colaborate on a course of action.
That's why!
As a member of the Linux community...
Ever noticed that those who have to say it, aren't?
Pros: "I know a little about computers."
Also-rans: "I'm a computer expert."
Pros: "We'll do our best."
Also-rans: "We deliver quality."
Pros: "I'm OS neutral." (though would probably recommend specific OS for specific job)
Also-rans: "Linux is like a god."
Pros: "Life always picks up and goes on..."
Also-rans: "Linux could be threatened! Everybody should worry about it!"
I'll bet that:
90% or more of what we worry about, in life, doesn't happen.
90% or more of what we hope or dream about, and really work at, happens.
I could say the same to the GPL people. If you want to free your code don't impose restrictions on distribution.
;-)
Freedom without law and order is not really "freedom" -- and it's worse than law and order without freedom.
GPL is like the law, with freedom preserved. Microsoft's EULA is like the law, with freedom removed. Spam is the result of freedom exploited.
Ok. So, honestly, which is more evil: Microsoft or spam?
Google results:
"European Federation for Immunogenetics"?
"European Forest Institute"?
"Energy Federation Incorporated"?
"English For Internet"?
"Electronics For Imaging"?
"Electronic Field Instrument"?
"Radio Frequency Interference"?
"Extensible Firmware Interface"?
Come on! Help us out, here...
To all adoring MSDN fans, I've *made* it! You TOO can *make* it! Here's how:
...and here are some mistakes I made along the way: .Net)
1) Used some other language, rather than one of Microsoft's
2) Bought software^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H real estate instead of leasing it (like Microsoft's
3) Used a development model, other than Microsoft's
4) Developed a lousy, unique-architecture of an application, rather than yielding to Microsoft's
5) Developed a for-the-clueless development platform for a clueful development crowd, rather than just yielding to Microsoft's tools
6 & 7) Trusted people, rather than work everything through attorneys (which, by the way, one must trust) -- like Microsoft does
7) We tried to build a better platform, rather than use Microsoft's
[end of HOWTO]
Now, go out and make your $300!
If only /. would give everyone mod-points. What a wonderful gift that would be...
Hello? michael? Listenning?
Uh, you'd better check your math. There's much more than 5% going to someone else. Try more like 100-200% of the present value of your home.
Try this out: Multiply your monthly payment times 360 (the number of payments per year, times 30 years -- the typical home loan term). Now divide that amount by the amount you owe the bank. Should be 2.3, more or less, or 230%. And since, on payment, you'll have bought and own 100% out of that 230%, the amount you'll be paying someone else for the privilege is around 130%!
See? Isn't *compound* interest fun? That 5% is not "simple" interest, after all.
It is a good thing you're monthly payments are lower, though. Now you have more "disposable" income to buy, er..., disposables.
I shorted A31 to ground with a screwdriver on my Motorola MC68060 board. It blew a pullup resistor on an open collector output driver. Now A31 is always low -- and I'm too lazy to replace the tiny little 100 ohm surface mount. It runs just fine as long as I don't address high memory.
I just want to know: Does that count?
Couldn't resist the opportunity:
How to improve Windows:
Improve the company that makes Windows: Were we to develop a multimedia product for Linux, we could be far more certain that our Linux vendor would not eventually take over the whole market pie (like a Commie Dictator) by obscuring the API to Linux and using other draconian tactics.
You have embittered the very people who once rallied to your banner and helped you build a once great product. We don't fear Open Source for any reason; We fear Microsoft.
How to improve Linux:
Take over 99.9% of the consumer, embedded, laptop, desktop and server markets -- faster than it has been. Put the Destroyer of free and open computing markets out of business. BTW, this survey feels like being watched by an All Seeing Eye...
[end]
(Just felt good to get 5+ years of bitterness off my chest.)
Yes. Doesn't anyone else get this?!
I tried to help a client with Windows 2000 Server, yesterday. He bough a copy of XP Pro because Win2k had stopped being useful (after a virus mangled the registry). I loaded Knoppix and discovered he had dual SCSI drives. No big deal, right? XP Pro would not install because of those drives! (Of course the driver disks and the geek who installed them were long gone, two state lines away.)
But don't tell me Windows has any better support for hardware than Linux. This is not the only occurrence, either: Certain IR mice; Certain monitors; Certain NIC cards; There's a bunch of times Linux "just worked" where Windows has failed. Windows is everywhere and I'm so sick of supporting Windows. I come home exhausted, every day from fighting with this crap (I must reboot this toy OS about a hundred times a day).
On the other hand, I never "sell" Linux to my clients. I sell Mozilla (pop-up-killer - and tabs are nice), OpenOffice.org (upgrade-killer) and applications that run on Apache/PHP/Postgres (Access/ACT!-killer). Someday, they'll be able to switch to Linux -- when Point, QuickBooks and Quicken are supported -- and not skip a beat.
{:-0
More like "crying wolf", people. Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them, Second Edition?!