So might be a double whammy, the water isn't directly injected into the lake again.
I live just north of Toronto, in Markham (part of York Region).
We get our drinking water from Lake Ontario. All of the GTA (Greater Toronto Area), including the City of Toronto, York Region, Durham, Peel etc, use water pumped from the lake.
Our sewage is sent back down to Toronto, where it is treated before being dumped back into the lake. In fact, they're in the middle of building an additional set of sewage pipes to further growth in York Region (sort of controversial, because they're affecting groundwater and the Oak Ridges Moraine while they're doing it. Long story - google for details).
In other words, I don't think it would make any difference, because we've already been drawing our water from there. It's just coming from a different part of the lake.
Relax. People make fun of Americans all the time. When we take harmless jokes personally, we look like humorless bozos, don't we? Right! So do you, dumbass.
It's cool, dude. I'm just having fun with the guy, that's all.
As for why all your decent comedians end up in the US, I think you've given me the answer: I can imagine a comedian telling some stupid men-and-women-are-different joke, and an entire Canadian audience getting up in unison, calling the Mounties on their cell phones, and having the poor dumb bastard arrested for "hate speech".
Can you provide examples? I don't usually find that my speech is restricted. Certainly not to the point where everyone is looking make all sorts of allegations about someone's off-colour jokes. In fact, I can say all kinds of shit about our Prime Minister, or wear an anti-Paul Martin t-shirt, and it doesn't get me arrested unless I actually threaten somebody.
Is the $1.6B cost of this in US or CA funds? 'Cause I got about $1.6B Canadian back in change from my Value Meal yesterday...
$1.6B CAD would be about $1.2B USD, my dear Mr. Troll. Your jokes are getting old. Must be why you need to import all of your decent comedians from up north.
The CFO in my company uses them. He loves them. Said they were uncomfortable as hell at first, but once he got used to them he was able to sleep with them on (it took a while, though). But he did say he'll never go back to glasses/contacts.
Personally I think they're damned expensive, so it figures that one of our execs is the only person in the company that uses them:)
In the late 80s, I was mucking around with an old IBM PC XT computer - my family's first computer. We had two newer PCs in the house, but I was playing around and I thought I'd steal some parts.
While carrying the (heavy) case down the stairs to our basement, I slipped, and the case rolled down the stairs (thunk Thunk THUNK!) and landed at the bottom, a concrete floor.
Sure, I wasn't TOO worried because the machine wasn't valuable, but I was curious. The case had a few dents, but the machine booted fine, and shockingly enough, when I ran Norton Disk Doctor the monstrous 20MB hard drive in it (full-height, of course) didn't have a *single* bad sector! Good thing I parked the heads before I turned it off last, I guess:) It continued to work while I tinkered with it for a few months, until I stole the power supply for another project and retired the box for good.
The flip side of this though is that he is using the music to enhance his business, so why don't they deserve something (for using CDs, not the radio).
Which is why he's never played CDs in his office. He always figured the radio would be ok, since they've already paid that fee. Which is why he was upset to learn that that was not considered ok.
My father is a dentist in Canada (in the Toronto area). This has been going on for months now, and the Canadian Dental Association sent him a notice nearly a year ago about dentists getting harassed about this.
I was pretty shocked to say the least, but if you can believe it, even the 'on hold' music qualifies as "public entertainment" in the view of these idiots. Where most businesses used to be able to just tune a radio and plug that into the telephone, that practice has now effectively been outlawed. In fact, he's never played CDs in his office - he's only used the radio (nevermind that the stations have already paid the 'public entertainment' tax), and that appears to be a no-no as well.
The unfortunate solution to this whole mess was to:
stop playing ANY music in the office
replace the 'on hold' radio with a paid-for recording which has royalty-free music in the background
In the end, SOCAN didn't get much money from him, I don't think, because the royalty-free music was composed in-house in the firm that recorded his fancy new telephone greeting for waiting callers. But the whole idea riled him up so much I think they've lost the whole family in customers when it comes to buying music in the future. Go figure.
That's merely an illusion. The way gas prices are going, the car will definitely seem nearly free. Disposable, even. Much like printers nowadays. I hope they come with a full tank of gas.
If you have to do this sort of thing a lot it is much easier to read and follow in Perl.
I respectfully disagree. I write both Perl code and Java code, and to be honest, while Java is wordier, I find it much easier to write maintainable code in Java. I also find it much easier to maintain other people's code in Java.
I don't see what's so much harder about
if ( perl.match( "/EXPRESSION/", line ) ){
versus
if $line =~/MYREGEX/ {
Wordy? Perhaps. But using this method (and Java's OO nature) I can juggle multiple matches if I need to correlate between them, without too much difficulty. In my view, both languages have their advantages.
if ( perl.match( expression, inputLine ) ){ //do something with the obj returned here
perl.getMatch();
}
That's not so bad, is it? Of course if you plan on using an expression many times there's ways to compile and use it multiple times, but again, it's really not that difficult.
Personally, popup ads will tend to mean I'll never buy something from the company
Hear, hear. Years ago, I actually purchased an X10 camera. This was way back when nobody had heard of X10, when they didn't advertise at all, and I heard about it through/.
While I was happy with the camera, and I like the company's other products, I will not buy anything else from them, just because of their ad tactics. There you have it - a happy customer that DIDN'T RETURN, not because of the product, but because of their ethics.
Yeah. I guess now I'm a little ashamed that I supported them in the first place (back when a lot of people thought they were kinda cool).
your code has to be working with good information about tax laws federally and in all fifty states.
Psst: some of us in other countries use tax software too... I for one would like to have an alternative to paying my insane Canadian taxes using QuickTax or TurboTax. (who else in Ontario is sick of our brand new $300-900 annual health care premium [aka tax increase] as of today?)
You know... I don't mind paying for the software. I just hate that they all run on Windows. And I also hate it that they'll only print a limited number of returns before the license runs out. So if I make a mistake... to bad.
approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)
( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses ( ) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected (X) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money ( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks ( ) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it ( ) Users of email will not put up with it ( ) Microsoft will not put up with it ( ) The police will not put up with it ( ) Requires too much cooperation from spammers (X) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once ( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers ( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists ( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it (X) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email (X) Open relays in foreign countries ( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses ( ) Asshats (X) Jurisdictional problems ( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money ( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP ( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack ( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email ( ) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes ( ) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches ( ) Extreme profitability of spam ( ) Joe jobs and/or identity theft (X) Technically illiterate politicians ( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers ( ) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves ( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering ( ) Outlook
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical ( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable ( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation ( ) Blacklists suck ( ) Whitelists suck ( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored ( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud ( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks ( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually ( ) Sending email should be free ( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers? ( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses (X) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem ( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome ( ) I don't want the government reading my email (X) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
(X) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work. ( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it. ( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
The only trustworthy source of any public beta software from Microsoft would be a website in the form of "http://*.microsoft.com/*"
Right. And then the first person who gets an email linking them to http://publicbeta.microsoft.com/products/Office@vi russerver.ru/TrojanMeBaby will get a rude surprise if they believe that.
Like it or not, there's still ways to fool the clueful if they don't have much in the way of technical knowledge (ie how to interpret the contents of a URL)
Slashdot Mirror
So why don't you eliminate the middleman?
Umm... because York Region isn't next to Lake Ontario, but Toronto is?
So might be a double whammy, the water isn't directly injected into the lake again.
I live just north of Toronto, in Markham (part of York Region).
We get our drinking water from Lake Ontario. All of the GTA (Greater Toronto Area), including the City of Toronto, York Region, Durham, Peel etc, use water pumped from the lake.
Our sewage is sent back down to Toronto, where it is treated before being dumped back into the lake. In fact, they're in the middle of building an additional set of sewage pipes to further growth in York Region (sort of controversial, because they're affecting groundwater and the Oak Ridges Moraine while they're doing it. Long story - google for details).
In other words, I don't think it would make any difference, because we've already been drawing our water from there. It's just coming from a different part of the lake.
It is like someone telling someone when they build a house that they have to use this screwdriver and only this screwdriver to build a house.
I only need one screwdriver.
Relax. People make fun of Americans all the time. When we take harmless jokes personally, we look like humorless bozos, don't we? Right! So do you, dumbass.
It's cool, dude. I'm just having fun with the guy, that's all.
As for why all your decent comedians end up in the US, I think you've given me the answer: I can imagine a comedian telling some stupid men-and-women-are-different joke, and an entire Canadian audience getting up in unison, calling the Mounties on their cell phones, and having the poor dumb bastard arrested for "hate speech".
Can you provide examples? I don't usually find that my speech is restricted. Certainly not to the point where everyone is looking make all sorts of allegations about someone's off-colour jokes. In fact, I can say all kinds of shit about our Prime Minister, or wear an anti-Paul Martin t-shirt, and it doesn't get me arrested unless I actually threaten somebody.
Must be why you import everything else, schmuck.
Hmm... our $9.2B trade surplus with the US numbers don't seem to agree with you.
Is the $1.6B cost of this in US or CA funds? 'Cause I got about $1.6B Canadian back in change from my Value Meal yesterday...
$1.6B CAD would be about $1.2B USD, my dear Mr. Troll. Your jokes are getting old. Must be why you need to import all of your decent comedians from up north.
The CFO in my company uses them. He loves them. Said they were uncomfortable as hell at first, but once he got used to them he was able to sleep with them on (it took a while, though). But he did say he'll never go back to glasses/contacts.
:)
Personally I think they're damned expensive, so it figures that one of our execs is the only person in the company that uses them
In the late 80s, I was mucking around with an old IBM PC XT computer - my family's first computer. We had two newer PCs in the house, but I was playing around and I thought I'd steal some parts.
:) It continued to work while I tinkered with it for a few months, until I stole the power supply for another project and retired the box for good.
While carrying the (heavy) case down the stairs to our basement, I slipped, and the case rolled down the stairs (thunk Thunk THUNK!) and landed at the bottom, a concrete floor.
Sure, I wasn't TOO worried because the machine wasn't valuable, but I was curious. The case had a few dents, but the machine booted fine, and shockingly enough, when I ran Norton Disk Doctor the monstrous 20MB hard drive in it (full-height, of course) didn't have a *single* bad sector! Good thing I parked the heads before I turned it off last, I guess
The flip side of this though is that he is using the music to enhance his business, so why don't they deserve something (for using CDs, not the radio).
Which is why he's never played CDs in his office. He always figured the radio would be ok, since they've already paid that fee. Which is why he was upset to learn that that was not considered ok.
I was pretty shocked to say the least, but if you can believe it, even the 'on hold' music qualifies as "public entertainment" in the view of these idiots. Where most businesses used to be able to just tune a radio and plug that into the telephone, that practice has now effectively been outlawed. In fact, he's never played CDs in his office - he's only used the radio (nevermind that the stations have already paid the 'public entertainment' tax), and that appears to be a no-no as well.
The unfortunate solution to this whole mess was to:
stop playing ANY music in the office
replace the 'on hold' radio with a paid-for recording which has royalty-free music in the background
In the end, SOCAN didn't get much money from him, I don't think, because the royalty-free music was composed in-house in the firm that recorded his fancy new telephone greeting for waiting callers. But the whole idea riled him up so much I think they've lost the whole family in customers when it comes to buying music in the future. Go figure.
maybe use that huge 182 carat diamond they found in Guinea a couple days ago.
/. article about that.
Shh... don't spoil it. Everyone's still waiting for the
If you're my brother in law, you're already in big trouble (I'm expecting a nephew at the end of September) :)
Does this mean I won't be able to play with my cat anymore?
I think cars will be free too.
That's merely an illusion. The way gas prices are going, the car will definitely seem nearly free. Disposable, even. Much like printers nowadays. I hope they come with a full tank of gas.
If you have to do this sort of thing a lot it is much easier to read and follow in Perl.
/MYREGEX/ {
I respectfully disagree. I write both Perl code and Java code, and to be honest, while Java is wordier, I find it much easier to write maintainable code in Java. I also find it much easier to maintain other people's code in Java.
I don't see what's so much harder about
if ( perl.match( "/EXPRESSION/", line ) ){
versus
if $line =~
Wordy? Perhaps. But using this method (and Java's OO nature) I can juggle multiple matches if I need to correlate between them, without too much difficulty. In my view, both languages have their advantages.
Have you ever tried using regular expressions in Java?
...
//do something with the obj returned here
Perhaps it's a little wordy, but I never had much trouble using Perl syntax in Java using the Jakarta ORO library
import org.apache.oro.text.perl.Perl5Util;
Perl5Util perl = new Perl5Util();
String expression = "/MYREGEX/";
if ( perl.match( expression, inputLine ) ){
perl.getMatch();
}
That's not so bad, is it? Of course if you plan on using an expression many times there's ways to compile and use it multiple times, but again, it's really not that difficult.
I learnt to reserve blowouts for during the week from an old hand.
Err... umm... too easy.
Personally, popup ads will tend to mean I'll never buy something from the company
/.
Hear, hear. Years ago, I actually purchased an X10 camera. This was way back when nobody had heard of X10, when they didn't advertise at all, and I heard about it through
While I was happy with the camera, and I like the company's other products, I will not buy anything else from them, just because of their ad tactics. There you have it - a happy customer that DIDN'T RETURN, not because of the product, but because of their ethics.
Yeah. I guess now I'm a little ashamed that I supported them in the first place (back when a lot of people thought they were kinda cool).
your code has to be working with good information about tax laws federally and in all fifty states.
Psst: some of us in other countries use tax software too... I for one would like to have an alternative to paying my insane Canadian taxes using QuickTax or TurboTax. (who else in Ontario is sick of our brand new $300-900 annual health care premium [aka tax increase] as of today?)
You know... I don't mind paying for the software. I just hate that they all run on Windows. And I also hate it that they'll only print a limited number of returns before the license runs out. So if I make a mistake... to bad.
Pfft. I've run across missing pine too. So I downloaded it and installed it. Geez.
Hehe. I had the pleasure of being the author of the JavaScript code they used to do that.
:)
They contacted me a few days before asking permission to use it, but I had no idea what they had been planning. Imagine my surprise!
Wake me up when it can be attached to a molex connector...
Wakey, wakey!
Your post advocates a
( ) technical (X) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante
approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)
( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
( ) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
(X) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
( ) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
( ) Users of email will not put up with it
( ) Microsoft will not put up with it
( ) The police will not put up with it
( ) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
(X) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it
(X) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
(X) Open relays in foreign countries
( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
( ) Asshats
(X) Jurisdictional problems
( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
( ) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
( ) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
( ) Extreme profitability of spam
( ) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
(X) Technically illiterate politicians
( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
( ) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
( ) Outlook
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever
been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
( ) Blacklists suck
( ) Whitelists suck
( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
( ) Sending email should be free
( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
(X) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
( ) I don't want the government reading my email
(X) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
(X) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your
house down!
The only trustworthy source of any public beta software from Microsoft would be a website in the form of "http://*.microsoft.com/*"
i russerver.ru/TrojanMeBaby
Right. And then the first person who gets an email linking them to
http://publicbeta.microsoft.com/products/Office@v
will get a rude surprise if they believe that.
Like it or not, there's still ways to fool the clueful if they don't have much in the way of technical knowledge (ie how to interpret the contents of a URL)
Yeah and the boogers I picked out of my nose are great for those of you on an Atkins diet.
And they're ALL-NATURAL! No preservatives or artificial flavours! Contact me for ordering info!