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What's there to explain? Buy an ifrared transmitter, and use lirc. It's not even remotely hard or complicated.
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What are you smoking? Myth has support for using ANY external app as a channel changer. Combined with lirc and an IR transmitter you can control anything out there. My capture cards are all connected to external tuners via svideo (execept for my one OTA HD card).
And why should a bunch of people who work for free should care about how many people will be using their software and not contributing anything back?
Users need to get a grip. Just like any other software if you don't like it use something else. You think that because the source is open and the softwre is free you suddenly have more say that what you would have with some closed source software shop?
For the life of me I don't understand why the users think our success is based on how many leaches we have taking advantage of our work.
Probably, Myth is written mostly in C++ though. The code is a horrible hack job though. Written by a college student. Not that all college student projects suck, it's just that usually the inexperienced create poor designs initially.
yeaahhhh right. While some of the people who contribute code to Myth are college students, the core development team has been writing software professionaly for a number of years.
The code is often buggy and hard to hack on.
Buggy? Hell it's stable enough and bug free enough to run CVS 99% of the time. What bug do get found get fixed quickly. If it's hard to hack on for you, perhaps you don't have enough development skill to be making any assements about the design.
Blame ATI. Hauppage supports Linux. I don't know if they write the drivers, or if they just tell people what they need to know, but the drivers are there.
The Hauppage drivers were written by reverse engineering the Windows drivers with no support from Hauppage.
AIW isn't supported by ATI because 1) ATIs drivers suck. 2) AIW uses some ugly hacks involving copying to video RAM so standard cpature methods don't work and 3) The AIW cards are pretty much the WORST capture cards on the market.
Let me tell you, if you're accustomed to the stability and reliability of a Tivo type device, you will NOT be happy with MythTV yet at all!
Conversely, my main Myth box runs 24/7 without issue and only goes down when the power fails or I install a new revision of Myth.
MythWeather module often reports a "timeout error" while trying to collect current weather data,
Nice of you to report that to the developers so that the default timeout can be increased. Oddly enough, it doesn't time out for me via dialup.
Free TV guide data Myth utilizes (via zap2it.com) is lacking in several ways. Primarily, pay-per-view events on satellite TV are not detailed at all. They all simply say "PPV event" in the listing.
You mean just like Tivos? Since it's the SAME data Tivo recieves for non Directivo boxes the comparison fails.
If you're like most users, wanting to use MythTV with a cable box or Dish Network satellite receiver, you'll have to build your own "IR Blaster" This is the came control mechanism that Tivo uses so again what's the big deal. There's ZERO reason to build one, there are several IR transmitters and recievers available to buy.
MythTV is good but it's far too complicated to set up for the average user. And if you want to play DVD's or Windows Media files, you've still gotta install that support separately, which is another headache under Linux.
I always laugh when I hear stuff like this. That may have been the case a while ago, but complete and utter Linux newbies have no problem installing Myth when following Jarrods guide or using KnoppMyth. Getting a DVD player and all the spiffy codecs you could ever want is EASIER under Linux than it is for Windows, with apt/syanptic installed it's as simple as clicking on them from a catagorized list.
I live in Ohio, and work in Columbus. I don't know of anyone who waited for more than 2.5 hours. If people hadn't gone during known peak times they wouldn't have had to even wait that long.
You have got to be kidding me right? Perhaps you weren't aware, but the the current king of PVRs in terms of features and functionality isn't a windows app it's a Linux app.
If all you want to do is record TV then yes buy a Tivo. PVR functionality in Myth is one small piece of the larger puzzle. You can't really compare Mtyh and Tivo, it's like comparing Doom3 and pong. Yeah they're both games, but one has a LOT more to offer.
If you: want to build your own custom box that does whatever you want but requires a complex installation and looks like shit, go with a homebrew.
Odd, my Myth box looks a lot better than my Tivo, both in it's UI and the box itself. Take a little time to research the various PVR packages, most of them offer themable UIs that look a LOT better than a Tivo.
As for a complex installation... I guess inserting a CD into a drive could be considered complex for some.
Except that you'd need to be on the same LAN as your friend "on the Internet" for that to work. There's nothing stopping you from echanging files and metadata but streaming from a BE to a far remote FE over a cable modem or the like would be pretty bad at normal resolutions and bitrates.
My wife and daughter use our MythTV boxes everyday. Since I've had them up and running (January) the only time they've failed my wife and daughter is when I've brought them down to run level 3 to install new versions of Myth.
The last AIW was recognized as just about the worst capture card on the market. All in one solutions are great for folks who don't know any better and think they're getting somethign great.
The PVR250/350, Avermedia M179 and Yuan MPG600 lines of hardware MPEG2 capture cards are by far superior and have excellent Linux support.
To the far left IS communism. Though most of the US "far left" don't even make it as far left as the center in other countries. Left/right is based soley on fiscal policy.
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What's there to explain? Buy an ifrared transmitter, and use lirc. It's not even remotely hard or complicated.
What are you smoking? Myth has support for using ANY external app as a channel changer. Combined with lirc and an IR transmitter you can control anything out there. My capture cards are all connected to external tuners via svideo (execept for my one OTA HD card).
And why should a bunch of people who work for free should care about how many people will be using their software and not contributing anything back?
Users need to get a grip. Just like any other software if you don't like it use something else. You think that because the source is open and the softwre is free you suddenly have more say that what you would have with some closed source software shop?
For the life of me I don't understand why the users think our success is based on how many leaches we have taking advantage of our work.
yes
no you cant
yes it would (if you could)
no it can't
Funny I don't remember the last time I had a crash with Myth.
Myth runs under OSX. Current CVS (soon to be release .17) compiles clean for OSX out of the box.
Ummm MythVideo, MythMusic and MythGallery. Do all those things and do them VERY well.
yeaahhhh right. While some of the people who contribute code to Myth are college students, the core development team has been writing software professionaly for a number of years.
The code is often buggy and hard to hack on.
Buggy? Hell it's stable enough and bug free enough to run CVS 99% of the time. What bug do get found get fixed quickly. If it's hard to hack on for you, perhaps you don't have enough development skill to be making any assements about the design.
Except that it was annouced BEFORE the PA slam. This article is old news.
The Hauppage drivers were written by reverse engineering the Windows drivers with no support from Hauppage.
AIW isn't supported by ATI because 1) ATIs drivers suck. 2) AIW uses some ugly hacks involving copying to video RAM so standard cpature methods don't work and 3) The AIW cards are pretty much the WORST capture cards on the market.
Ummm yeah sure it is. Want to compare feature sets and user bases?
Try MythPhone, it's getting close if not there already. Plus it allows video conferencing on your TV.
Conversely, my main Myth box runs 24/7 without issue and only goes down when the power fails or I install a new revision of Myth.
MythWeather module often reports a "timeout error" while trying to collect current weather data,
Nice of you to report that to the developers so that the default timeout can be increased. Oddly enough, it doesn't time out for me via dialup.
Free TV guide data Myth utilizes (via zap2it.com) is lacking in several ways. Primarily, pay-per-view events on satellite TV are not detailed at all. They all simply say "PPV event" in the listing.
You mean just like Tivos? Since it's the SAME data Tivo recieves for non Directivo boxes the comparison fails.
If you're like most users, wanting to use MythTV with a cable box or Dish Network satellite receiver, you'll have to build your own "IR Blaster"
This is the came control mechanism that Tivo uses so again what's the big deal. There's ZERO reason to build one, there are several IR transmitters and recievers available to buy.
I always laugh when I hear stuff like this.
That may have been the case a while ago, but complete and utter Linux newbies have no problem installing Myth when following Jarrods guide or using KnoppMyth. Getting a DVD player and all the spiffy codecs you could ever want is EASIER under Linux than it is for Windows, with apt/syanptic installed it's as simple as clicking on them from a catagorized list.
I live in Ohio, and work in Columbus. I don't know of anyone who waited for more than 2.5 hours. If people hadn't gone during known peak times they wouldn't have had to even wait that long.
You have got to be kidding me right? Perhaps you weren't aware, but the the current king of PVRs in terms of features and functionality isn't a windows app it's a Linux app.
With Myth yes, with Tivo no.
If all you want to do is record TV then yes buy a Tivo. PVR functionality in Myth is one small piece of the larger puzzle. You can't really compare Mtyh and Tivo, it's like comparing Doom3 and pong. Yeah they're both games, but one has a LOT more to offer.
You're missing the point. It's Tivo that inferior not the Myth boxes. PVR functionality is just one part of what a Myth box does.
Odd, my Myth box looks a lot better than my Tivo, both in it's UI and the box itself. Take a little time to research the various PVR packages, most of them offer themable UIs that look a LOT better than a Tivo.
As for a complex installation... I guess inserting a CD into a drive could be considered complex for some.
1. That's why you do it as a background process. After the data is pulled from the disc, you can convert to MPEG4 in the background. (ala MythTV)
2. Not all disk require it.
3. Use xvid. it looks better anyway
Except that you'd need to be on the same LAN as your friend "on the Internet" for that to work. There's nothing stopping you from echanging files and metadata but streaming from a BE to a far remote FE over a cable modem or the like would be pretty bad at normal resolutions and bitrates.
My wife and daughter use our MythTV boxes everyday. Since I've had them up and running (January) the only time they've failed my wife and daughter is when I've brought them down to run level 3 to install new versions of Myth.
Sounds like maybe you shouldn't be thinking... ;)
The last AIW was recognized as just about the worst capture card on the market. All in one solutions are great for folks who don't know any better and think they're getting somethign great.
The PVR250/350, Avermedia M179 and Yuan MPG600 lines of hardware MPEG2 capture cards are by far superior and have excellent Linux support.
Easy video editor? Avidemux2 is pretty darn easy.
To the far left IS communism. Though most of the US "far left" don't even make it as far left as the center in other countries. Left/right is based soley on fiscal policy.
Take a look at politicalcompass.org sometime.