You're probably right, and it most likely won't be used for that. The problem arises from the fact that it could be used like that. If the intent of the law is something different, then the law should be re-written to be more clean on its intent, so that it cannot be misused.
As one other poster pointed out, a perfect example of how the law in its current state could be abused would be the news crew that's doing an investigative report or expose on the movie theater concession stand and its health violations (or something like that). Pissed off movie theater owner/manager doesn't like this, and calls the cops. News crew could be prosecuted under this law.
If a law can be used for something other than what it was intended for, it's too broad. Just because it "probably won't" be used for other purposes is no reason why it should be allowed w/out revision.
However (and I could be wrong, since I haven't RTFA yet and am just going by comments, so you can ignore me if u wish:), I believe that according to the proposed bill, it's a crime to take a picture or make a recording in any building that currently is showing copyrighted content. So even tho the TeeVee is off, there's other screens in the store that are still probably playing movies, and therefore you are still breaking this wonderful (proposed) law.
And let me tell you, when you catch them, you do not want them to be caught without a law specifically forbidding the exact method they employ
I think that's the important part... These new laws they're passing are unneccessary. Don't we already have laws that make copyright infringement illegal? Which would mean that if someone actually did tape something in a store like this, they would be infringing copyright, which we already have a law for.
Argh.
It's like drugs. The drugs themselves shouldn't be illegal. If someone wants to purchase and/or use drugs, it's their body, let them. If they start doing things because of the drugs that affect other people (like robbing, shooting, driving cars into things, etc), then they should be prosecuted for the crimes they commit. Another example of redundant and unneccessary laws.
We already have laws for the crimes, we don't need laws for every possible method or action that might lead you to the breaking of the already existing laws.
This story does seem a little speculative and "odd". Did anyone actually check out this guy's resume where it can be "confirmed publically" that he works for apple? I don't know anything about this thinksecret site and how reputable it is, but a resume entry like this doesn't really confirm someone's employment to me:
Work Experience: Apple April 1999 to present
Changed the world an average of 6.79 times per day.
I like the earbud one that I have that came w/my Nokia phone. It's just a simple earbud with a mike on the line, and a clip so i can clip it to my shirt. I tried the jabber ones, but didn't really care for the gel earpiece... much too hard to get in and out of my ear. This simple little nokia one works great for me.
(personally I like to be unproductive during my 45 min - hour drive in though. I like to take the time to relax and enjoy the drive rather than working every second of the day. but that's just me:)
Um, MS Office costs like $140 in vietnam, where the per capita annual income is only $420. Maybe that's why they steal it.
I don't think you're comparing like items... the MS software is obviously copied because it's priced way too high for the market. Violating the GPL is a completely different issue. The motivation would be different, since the cost factor isn't there..
I guess what you're trying to say is that if they don't respect IP in one instance, who's to say they wouldn't in another instance. Which may or may not be true, I just don't think that one being true (copying MS software because it's so pricey) neccessarily means the other will be true (violating the GPL just because they can).
You would want to register www.gtracer.com. Then, create dns records like so: (if you're using a registrar that does dns for you, do it w/them. otherwise, set up your own dns server and point your domain @ your dns server thru the registrar)
www.gtracer.com A gtracer.com MX 10 mail.gtracer.com
And then you'd just want to configure your mailserver on whatever machine is answering to that IP so that it routes everything @gtracer.com to your user account (in sendmail, you'd use the virtusertable, and configure gtracer.com and mail.gtracer.com in the local-host-names. There's probably something similar in pegasus).
Isn't there an adapter for the xbox that lets you output optical dolby digital 5.1? I'm not sure, as I haven't tried yet... so if someone can clarify, that'd be great.
Yes, if you have compiled and installed your own and you have the vulnerable version (3.7.1p1 is it?), you will be vulnerable. I think what redhat is trying to say is that any systems that are using their RPMs to keep updated are safe, since they are using an older version of OpenSSH, with backported fixes.
That's why I've found the best combination is caller ID and answering machine. I agree completely w/the original poster. I really don't like phones much at all. I completely agree that it's a convenience item for me, not for other people to be able to rach me whenever.
The caller ID/answering machine seems to work quite well for me. The caller ID gives me a good idea most of the time who's calling, and then the answering machine gives me an extra level of protection. You know, there's some times when you really don't feel like talking to someone, but if it's really important, you'll make an exception. The answering machine lets me decide based on what they want, and then I can decide when to fit them into my schedule. Besides, my parents seem to like to use calling cards from home, so I'm always seeing these weird out of state calls from them on caller id... so the answering machine is neccessary in that instance too.
I like this, first lines on Mr. Perens' linked website: (emphasis mine)
You may re-publish this material. You may excerpt it, reformat it and translate it as necessary for your presentation. You may not edit it to deliberately misrepresent my opinion.
Isn't this exactly what SCO / Darl McBride has done? Nice...
Um, sometimes a dupe is a good thing. Slashdot stories sometimes move so fast, things get missed. This story for example -- you say it wast posted multiple times in other stories, but I missed it. When it came up this time, I saw it, and I'm glad I did. This was a fairly important thing, so it's not really that big of deal to have a dupe.
(ok, now I'm sure I'll get many posts saying that I should read more and keep up more and so forth. have at it:)
Actually, it got to be kind of a fun thing around the office to see what strange things the korean spam would be trying to sell me each day, so I didn't mind them that much:) Now I don't use that email anymore (moved on from that company), so I don't get to "guess what the korean spam is selling" anymore:(
It's funny how yahoo korea looks strikingly similar to all that korean spam I used to get. Those were fun... couldn't figure out what they were trying to sell me, or how to unsubscribe:)
that's actually what I'm waiting for too:) I haven't been able to pull it down yet... but hoping that somebody will get a torrent up soon and then I can...
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You're probably right, and it most likely won't be used for that. The problem arises from the fact that it could be used like that. If the intent of the law is something different, then the law should be re-written to be more clean on its intent, so that it cannot be misused.
As one other poster pointed out, a perfect example of how the law in its current state could be abused would be the news crew that's doing an investigative report or expose on the movie theater concession stand and its health violations (or something like that). Pissed off movie theater owner/manager doesn't like this, and calls the cops. News crew could be prosecuted under this law.
If a law can be used for something other than what it was intended for, it's too broad. Just because it "probably won't" be used for other purposes is no reason why it should be allowed w/out revision.
However (and I could be wrong, since I haven't RTFA yet and am just going by comments, so you can ignore me if u wish :), I believe that according to the proposed bill, it's a crime to take a picture or make a recording in any building that currently is showing copyrighted content. So even tho the TeeVee is off, there's other screens in the store that are still probably playing movies, and therefore you are still breaking this wonderful (proposed) law.
And let me tell you, when you catch them, you do not want them to be caught without a law specifically forbidding the exact method they employ
I think that's the important part... These new laws they're passing are unneccessary. Don't we already have laws that make copyright infringement illegal? Which would mean that if someone actually did tape something in a store like this, they would be infringing copyright, which we already have a law for.
Argh.
It's like drugs. The drugs themselves shouldn't be illegal. If someone wants to purchase and/or use drugs, it's their body, let them. If they start doing things because of the drugs that affect other people (like robbing, shooting, driving cars into things, etc), then they should be prosecuted for the crimes they commit. Another example of redundant and unneccessary laws.
We already have laws for the crimes, we don't need laws for every possible method or action that might lead you to the breaking of the already existing laws.
Everyone knows that it's Star Trek that's a documentary!
:)
I believe the correct term is "historical videos"
This story does seem a little speculative and "odd". Did anyone actually check out this guy's resume where it can be "confirmed publically" that he works for apple? I don't know anything about this thinksecret site and how reputable it is, but a resume entry like this doesn't really confirm someone's employment to me:
:)
Work Experience: Apple April 1999 to present
Changed the world an average of 6.79 times per day.
Hmmm...
I like the earbud one that I have that came w/my Nokia phone. It's just a simple earbud with a mike on the line, and a clip so i can clip it to my shirt. I tried the jabber ones, but didn't really care for the gel earpiece... much too hard to get in and out of my ear. This simple little nokia one works great for me.
:)
(personally I like to be unproductive during my 45 min - hour drive in though. I like to take the time to relax and enjoy the drive rather than working every second of the day. but that's just me
oh yeah... FP?
Airbag landings are considered easier than retro-rocket or soft landings.
...and the big bounce covering more than half-a-mile.
:)
Hey, maybe they should land airliners this way?
Hmmm... maybe not..
I dunno, it is a "time shifting" apparatus :)
don't want to wait until the predetermined date and time to watch a show when I can load up DAoC and have fun.
:)
one word: TiVo
changes television viewing forever
Um, MS Office costs like $140 in vietnam, where the per capita annual income is only $420. Maybe that's why they steal it.
I don't think you're comparing like items... the MS software is obviously copied because it's priced way too high for the market. Violating the GPL is a completely different issue. The motivation would be different, since the cost factor isn't there..
I guess what you're trying to say is that if they don't respect IP in one instance, who's to say they wouldn't in another instance. Which may or may not be true, I just don't think that one being true (copying MS software because it's so pricey) neccessarily means the other will be true (violating the GPL just because they can).
You would want to register www.gtracer.com. Then, create dns records like so: (if you're using a registrar that does dns for you, do it w/them. otherwise, set up your own dns server and point your domain @ your dns server thru the registrar)
www.gtracer.com A
gtracer.com MX 10 mail.gtracer.com
And then you'd just want to configure your mailserver on whatever machine is answering to that IP so that it routes everything @gtracer.com to your user account (in sendmail, you'd use the virtusertable, and configure gtracer.com and mail.gtracer.com in the local-host-names. There's probably something similar in pegasus).
What is next, a race from the top of the World Trade Center Towers?
Too late, somebody's already doing it: 911 Survivor
ugh.
Isn't there an adapter for the xbox that lets you output optical dolby digital 5.1? I'm not sure, as I haven't tried yet... so if someone can clarify, that'd be great.
This is true... I actually was going to mention that in my comment as well about how the original poster had been "vague", but hit submit too fast :)
Yes, if you have compiled and installed your own and you have the vulnerable version (3.7.1p1 is it?), you will be vulnerable. I think what redhat is trying to say is that any systems that are using their RPMs to keep updated are safe, since they are using an older version of OpenSSH, with backported fixes.
That's why I've found the best combination is caller ID and answering machine. I agree completely w/the original poster. I really don't like phones much at all. I completely agree that it's a convenience item for me, not for other people to be able to rach me whenever.
The caller ID/answering machine seems to work quite well for me. The caller ID gives me a good idea most of the time who's calling, and then the answering machine gives me an extra level of protection. You know, there's some times when you really don't feel like talking to someone, but if it's really important, you'll make an exception. The answering machine lets me decide based on what they want, and then I can decide when to fit them into my schedule. Besides, my parents seem to like to use calling cards from home, so I'm always seeing these weird out of state calls from them on caller id... so the answering machine is neccessary in that instance too.
I like this, first lines on Mr. Perens' linked website: (emphasis mine)
You may re-publish this material. You may excerpt it, reformat it and translate it as necessary for your presentation. You may not edit it to deliberately misrepresent my opinion.
Isn't this exactly what SCO / Darl McBride has done? Nice...
If we keep heading down this road, eventually they'll be nobody left but laywers and 'victims', and modern civilization will grind to a halt.
;)
Eventually?
Um, sometimes a dupe is a good thing. Slashdot stories sometimes move so fast, things get missed. This story for example -- you say it wast posted multiple times in other stories, but I missed it. When it came up this time, I saw it, and I'm glad I did. This was a fairly important thing, so it's not really that big of deal to have a dupe.
:)
(ok, now I'm sure I'll get many posts saying that I should read more and keep up more and so forth. have at it
Actually, it got to be kind of a fun thing around the office to see what strange things the korean spam would be trying to sell me each day, so I didn't mind them that much :) Now I don't use that email anymore (moved on from that company), so I don't get to "guess what the korean spam is selling" anymore :(
It's funny how yahoo korea looks strikingly similar to all that korean spam I used to get. Those were fun... couldn't figure out what they were trying to sell me, or how to unsubscribe :)
thanx to an AC a few posts down:
http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/
And more specifically:
severn-i386-disc1.iso.torrent
severn-i386-disc2.iso.torrent
severn-i386-disc3.iso.torrent
orAll severn Binary isos in one torrent directory
Theres torrent linx to the SRPMS there too.
Thanx AC!
that's actually what I'm waiting for too :) I haven't been able to pull it down yet... but hoping that somebody will get a torrent up soon and then I can...
I believe you mean Grass. And yes, it is quite good :)
may a similiar bovine product would be called "Shoulder of Cow And Tenderloin".
:)
So by the spam naming method, that product would then be....... SCAIN? SCAOIN? SCALOIN?
No wonder that one didn't take off... just doesn't have the ring of SPAM