Why does the senate refuse to Ratify the Land Mine Treaty? Jobs in the Land Mine manufacturing facilities.
Ridiculous and completely wrong - the reason is because land mines are the only thing keeping the huge, but technologically inferior, North Korean army from invading South Korea. Its also why the north has repeatedly tried to tunnel under the DMZ (and to date repeatedly failed).
Global warming is happening...We're not doing anything to prevent this from happening...
Of course not. Mars NEEDS global warming. How can we expect to do it right over there without some practice first...
And who cares about existing life on mars. Look around, we need more space. The RIAA/MPAA and their assorted politicians have already taken over this place. Best to start over.
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The computation is simply there to consume time, so that it takes longer to send a message
Thing I don't understand is why do a useless computation on it. How about doing something useful like forcing encryption - ie. having a system where people upload a public key to their mail server when they sign up for email. In order to send them something your mail server is forced to encrypt it with the public key from their server. At least that way it accomplishes something useful by enhancing security - eliminating plaintext messages.
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98% of people will read this as: "So the richest man in the world wants me to pay for something I have always done for free?"
I agree, this thing is dead before it ever gets out the conceptual door. Narrow-minded people look at it and think its rational, after all they think "it won't cost me much"... but the whole concept of paying anything for email just destroys legitimate things such as mailing lists (think about kernel mailing lists, hobbiest lists, etc). It will never work across international boundaries, and if ever implemented people will simply revert to using the older free techniques. People are always looking for free or less costly methods of communication (such as VOIP), attaching a charge onto something that is free now is just stupid.
And I shudder to think of what might happen if politicians get a hold of a concept like this - "whoa, people paying money, and we are not getting our fair share of tax?!?"
I wish people would simply drop the paying for email concept. Bulk mail (bulk advertising) is not free, yet I still get way more of it stuffed into my physical mailbox than legitimate letters. Making it cost WILL NOT make it go away.
because of outsourcing are NOT the people spending $30,000 for education. It's more like the ITT crowd.
Not yet, but the trend will continue. Its not as if the US has a monopoly on highly educated people. In fact regarding advanced technical degrees, I'd be willing to bet there are many more PhDs and MS outside the US than inside.
There are a couple things people seem to be overlooking also. One is that when a job is exported, all of its future experience is exported along with it. Know all those job ads that say things like "4yrs experience needed", well long after exporting jobs dies down and the trend reverses there is going to be a giant experience gap. Either people will be "fresh-outs", with a degree and no experience, or about ready to retire with lots of experience (the few who didn't lose their jobs).
Further, another overlooked point is that when jobs are exported, all the tax dollars those jobs generate are exported along with it. Companies are shipping that money into a different countries revenue stream. If its significant enough, it causes local deficits which need to be accounted for with higher taxes (the displaced people might take lower paying jobs, but hey their kids still go to the same schools which cost the same amount of tax dollars to run). Higher taxes and a smaller percentage of higher paying jobs just compounds the problem.
Frankly I'm of the opinion that my government should be looking out for my interests instead of the world at large. Free trade might be helping CEOs pocket a bigger bonus, and helping the global economy, but since I'm not a CEO and since the local economy is what affects me most, its not doing me a lot of good. One good thing is that this has become a hot enough topic to be an election issue. At least now the politicians can't pretend its a non-issue anymore.
Why are they trying to ruin what made Deus Ex great? It's like they don't even know why people liked the first one.
Apparently they don't. You know what one of the -best- features of Deus Ex was? It was a LONG game. The fact that it was long made it immersive, like reading a good novel. It worked really well with the conspiracy angles in the game. It also had RPG like qualities, with the skill system and all. By dumbing it down to play well on a console, and making the game pathetically short, they managed to extract all the unique and fun stuff out of it.
So if they follow their current trend, Thief 3 will be a short-lived, dumbed down, insult to its predecessor that can be finished in 10 hours... (I have never understood why a game company will spend years writing an engine, and then skimp on the levels to the point it can be finished in a day or two)
Once you have the silicon designed it is just a "library" you plug into...
...GSM will not be the only standard for long, 3g systems are coming out, and they are closer to the US systems than GSM. Nobody in their right mind knowing that would design a cell phone that they couldn't move to a different protocol.
Actually as someone who designed the Motorola front-end chip I can tell you that the same front-end IC used should work in the US for GSM. The problem isn't the technology, I guessing its the carriers (ATT, Cingular, TMobile) who either don't think people will buy it, or they can't figure out how to squeeze more cash out of the people who do buy it.
The Mot chipset used has both dual-band and quad-band front-end ICs, and actually was designed for GSM (the VCO is capable of hitting the 4 main GSM bands - 850/900/1800/1900). However transferring to a different protocol isn't quite as trivial as you make it sound. The 3G and CDMA specs are harder than GSM, so to do a multi-protocol capable part you need to design to the most extreme/hardest specs of all the protocols combined (this is not a new concept, but it typically fails because the resultant part is not competitive with the protocol-specific parts on either cost, current drain - aka battery life, or any number of other factors).
Are Electrical Engineers having any similar problems with jobs being outsourced?
For EEs I don't think that the outsourcing is as bad off as in CS land, but on the other hand in a sense it has already happened to us. Many of the jobs are over in Taiwan, China, and Korea. Reason is that the employee cost is lower (as for CS) and also that is where a lot of the fabs are (fabs meaning wafer foundries). In a way, the end effect is that it has really upped the bar as far as what is required. Over in Taiwan and China it is much more common for people to pursue advanced degrees. Having that advanced degree gives them a step up in relation to many.
IMO, if you do go into EE one of the best things you can do for yourself is get a Masters degree. When I graduated with my BSEE I didn't have a clue. Sure I knew the basics, but really that is the bare minimum. Only after grinding through a MSEE for a couple extra years did I get some understanding and experience (I was lucky that my prof forced me to actually build an IC to demonstrate my thesis topic - which made me learn firsthand how to design, layout, and fab an IC via MOSIS - great experience). In the process of getting a MSEE, assuming you have a good advisor and a good topic, you might even get a publication (in an IEEE journal) or mabye even a conference presentation out of it. Sure a MS adds a couple years to school, but IMO its definitely worth it.
From what I've seen, once you are in the industry you want to start working to build up your knowledge, and also work on building up your contacts. If you go into IC design, you would do well to learn how to do both digital and analog design (very different), and digital and analog layout (also very different). Analog and digital each cover huge amounts of material. You will never know it all but have some understanding of each. You should also know how to run the different simulation tools (Cadence, Mentor, verilog, spice), layout tools, etc. Probably won't get all those in school, but try to get what you can.
The more skills you have the more employable you will be. I firmly believe that you do not get job security from your job, you get job security from your skills. I always try to keep improving my skill set. My goal is to have enough skills to be a one person design center - knowing everything from the spec to the qual'ed IC. Of the engineers I know, very few have a good skill set covering the areas I just mentioned. I could count the number on one hand, and FYI - most are american.
Contacts are the other big thing. The people you work with at your current company are going to be your doorway into the next company you work for, and the one after that. I know very few people who work at the same place for dozens of years. The workplace just isn't very kind to those people anymore.
Don't forget that the workplace is cyclic too. When I graduated with my BSEE the market was crap, you could do a half dozen interviews and get zilch. A couple years later with an MSEE, I did five interviews and got five offers (part was the market turnaround, and part was the extra degree).
802.16 is simply an evolution of the 802.11 technology, scaled for carrier grade deployment, and the servicing of a large number of end users.
Even scaled at the numbers you say, this seems like it would require a heck of a lot of cells to service a large population. In a city of a million people your talking on the order of 1000 cells (each with 10 "nodes" as you say, in them). Each of the cells being strategically placed and configured so as to not kill its neighbors.
This all sounds highly improbable in the near future - mabye 5 to 10 years out. Consider that Cingular, T-Mobile, ATT, etc have yet to complete a good network of a GSM base stations, and they have been at it for years. Now granted I've heard a GSM station is something like $100k a pop, but with 10 "nodes" a piece, plus tower, cabling to the tower, antennas, testing, etc these things can't be much cheaper. (this also implies to me the future skyline will be covered with monopole towers)
The other bit, and I'm not certain of the official status of 802.16 bands, is that cellular bands are regulated (meaning you can get in trouble if you "modify" your cell phone to boost the range). If this stuff is unlicensed, then anybody could rig their own setup right in the middle of everybody else.
I think www.sco.com as we know it will probably have traffic from this virus FOREVER.
Which they will promptly PR-spin into a positive thing - "We are getting THOUSANDS of licensing inquiries EACH DAY!!" or "Our website has become one of the most POPULAR on the internet, obviously customers are very satisfied!"
There are some great hackers out there putting out distros, but they'll never make a name for themselves compiling a distro that less than 20 people will use regularly. They should focus on doing something new, filling a niche that hasn't been filled yet.
For some of the "little" distros, disparity spurs innovation. Some people focus on PC distros, some like embedded, some like doing live CDs. No one player is going to cover all these bases.
I find it odd that some people think that the whole community should move as a united mass toward some commercial goal. I've got news for you, not all people have commercial goals. Not all people have your goals, and not all people need to have any goals. There is such a thing as an enthusiast. People have hobbies, and some of these enthusiast types like to do distros. So what if no one else uses it, it serves their interests, and to them mabye thats all that matters.
The major problem with SuSE is that you have to buy the CDs to get the distribution...
My thinking was the same a few months ago when RH decided to EOL their "consumer" versions. At first not knowing much about Fedora, I started checking into the other distros. Thought about SuSE, but didn't like the idea of forking over cash just to decide if it was the right one to settle on. Looked at a few others too, but ultimately went with Fedora (we will probably eventually standardize on RHEL WS at work, so it makes sense from that standpoint).
Point is that if there were SuSE ISOs available, I would definitely have tried it out. But forking over cash just to demo it, or downloading packages one by one is just not worth the time.
Unfortunately I wasn't all that impressed with Fedora the first month I had it. It was incredibly unstable, which was shocking since I figured it was a derivative of RH9. After dumping the stock kernel, downloading and recompiling a custom kernel (at least a couple dozen times), I managed to stabilize the box (I found that the ACPI stuff and possibly some other power management bits were the culprit, at least for me).
Don't these things make noise like a vacuum cleaner?
Depends on what you do with it. I have two Shuttle SB61G2 systems at home (P4 based), and one SB51G at work. These are a little older models - early 2003 for the SB61s and late 2002 for the SB51.
The SB51 at work runs a P4 2.8GHz (the older 533 bus), and it spends most of its time idling. Given that, it runs with -very- little noise. Occasionally I run big computational jobs on it, which get the cooler fan going a bit, but even then its quiet (the HP-UX box 6ft away on the far side of the desk easily drowns out its noise, whereas the SB51 sits just a couple feet away).
At home the SB61s run 3GHz P4s. These get hot under load. One of them runs Fedora, with seti@home jobs running 24/7. Its fan is always maxed out. Shuttle ships their boxes with Sunon fans, and they are loud at full speed (in the 40 to 50dB range I think). However I swapped it for a lower rpm, quieter fan. At idle its almost inaudible, however since it runs at full load always, I'm guessing mabye mid-30s dB wise. Its not loud, but I'm still considering ways on making it quieter. One thing I plan to do is swap the power supply in it. The older models like I have came with relatively noisy power supplies, however the new generation XPCs (the G4 ones) supposedly come with newer SilentX powersupplies that are much quieter. They match the form factor of the old ones, so I'll probably pick up some of those and swap them out.
Btw - the other SB61 at home is the gaming rig. It has a more powerful AGP-based graphics card in it, but the downside is the fan on the card is probably the dominant noise source. Although the XPC supports the very hot, very loud graphic cards, if you want quiet you'll want to pick something a couple steps back from the leading edge.
She knows nothing about technology, and rather little about business. She only knows how to drain money.
I agree. Carly is the worst thing that ever happened to HP. Go ask all the Compaq people what they think about the new "synergy" between Compaq and HP. Ask them how that "synergy" has improved their lives (you can find them over in the unemployment line)...
With the "no one has a god given right" bit that she recently spewed, and the HP-building-DRM-into-everything, she's quickly turning HP into an example of what not to do. Does anyone seriously think this "utility" computing would ever actually come from HP (and be successful) while Carly-the-buzzword-moron is running things?? I think not...
I don't know if anyone suggested it, but another option is simply to try and fix the broken piece. If the part is really unavailable, get some super glue.
Another option is to fabricate a new one - get a thick sheet of aluminum and some cutting tools (dremel, etc) and make a new bezel that is a lot better and stronger than the original plastic one.
Ahh, so exactly how far does HP need to stretch the truth before it becomes illegal then? What if the 9200 had a different internal architecture than the 9000, then would it be wrong?
Is it such a problem for HP to put a ATI 9000 sticker on the case instead of a ATI 9200 one? Its a clear case of misleading advertising. If its a 9000 then say 9000, if its a 9200 then say 9200, don't give this "it has the same performance" BS, hell they could have stuck a Geforce4 5200Go in there and got similar performance, but I would hardly call that a 9200.
Time Warner raised our monthly rates $20/mo. for cable t.v and modem for a total of over $120/mo.
I've noticed the same thing here (Austin,TX). Time Warner was about $100/mo for basic digital TV and cable (about $50 each) when I signed up for it. Its been quickly climbing to the $120 range. Time Warner has no shortage of customers in this area, so they are basically just squeezing people for money. Of course when you think about it, for every customer they lose ($120/mo), they need to squeeze about 12 other people to make up for the loss (extra $10/mo each).
So I'm moving in about 4 weeks and its looks like Time Warner won't be coming along. Now I get to re-explore DSL in the area, but having dealt with SW Bell DSL a couple years back I don't really like that prospect either...
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In short, if Google betrays the trust customers have in it and therefore is no longer trusted, the company won't be worth as much.
Hmm, doesn't seem to work this way with Microsoft...
The "Project Outsourced" people should also try and see if they can find anyone to offer arguments like this,
Answers on Outsourcing - A finance professor argues against placing blind faith in outsourcing.
which has some very clear and understandable arguments against outsourcing.
call center expertise
Sorry, but these three words should never be used together in a sentence...
Why does the senate refuse to Ratify the Land Mine Treaty? Jobs in the Land Mine manufacturing facilities.
Ridiculous and completely wrong - the reason is because land mines are the only thing keeping the huge, but technologically inferior, North Korean army from invading South Korea. Its also why the north has repeatedly tried to tunnel under the DMZ (and to date repeatedly failed).
Global warming is happening...We're not doing anything to prevent this from happening...
Of course not. Mars NEEDS global warming. How can we expect to do it right over there without some practice first...
And who cares about existing life on mars. Look around, we need more space. The RIAA/MPAA and their assorted politicians have already taken over this place. Best to start over.
The computation is simply there to consume time, so that it takes longer to send a message
Thing I don't understand is why do a useless computation on it. How about doing something useful like forcing encryption - ie. having a system where people upload a public key to their mail server when they sign up for email. In order to send them something your mail server is forced to encrypt it with the public key from their server. At least that way it accomplishes something useful by enhancing security - eliminating plaintext messages.
98% of people will read this as: "So the richest man in the world wants me to pay for something I have always done for free?"
I agree, this thing is dead before it ever gets out the conceptual door. Narrow-minded people look at it and think its rational, after all they think "it won't cost me much" ... but the whole concept of paying anything for email just destroys legitimate things such as mailing lists (think about kernel mailing lists, hobbiest lists, etc). It will never work across international boundaries, and if ever implemented people will simply revert to using the older free techniques. People are always looking for free or less costly methods of communication (such as VOIP), attaching a charge onto something that is free now is just stupid.
And I shudder to think of what might happen if politicians get a hold of a concept like this - "whoa, people paying money, and we are not getting our fair share of tax?!?"
I wish people would simply drop the paying for email concept. Bulk mail (bulk advertising) is not free, yet I still get way more of it stuffed into my physical mailbox than legitimate letters. Making it cost WILL NOT make it go away.
However, one selling point maybe the fact that this notebook is just $1,499 - which is quite cheap considering the configuration
Given the cost and weight, mabye they saved money by swapping out the titanium or aluminum case for the much lower cost cast-iron case...
because of outsourcing are NOT the people spending $30,000 for education. It's more like the ITT crowd.
Not yet, but the trend will continue. Its not as if the US has a monopoly on highly educated people. In fact regarding advanced technical degrees, I'd be willing to bet there are many more PhDs and MS outside the US than inside.
There are a couple things people seem to be overlooking also. One is that when a job is exported, all of its future experience is exported along with it. Know all those job ads that say things like "4yrs experience needed", well long after exporting jobs dies down and the trend reverses there is going to be a giant experience gap. Either people will be "fresh-outs", with a degree and no experience, or about ready to retire with lots of experience (the few who didn't lose their jobs).
Further, another overlooked point is that when jobs are exported, all the tax dollars those jobs generate are exported along with it. Companies are shipping that money into a different countries revenue stream. If its significant enough, it causes local deficits which need to be accounted for with higher taxes (the displaced people might take lower paying jobs, but hey their kids still go to the same schools which cost the same amount of tax dollars to run). Higher taxes and a smaller percentage of higher paying jobs just compounds the problem.
Frankly I'm of the opinion that my government should be looking out for my interests instead of the world at large. Free trade might be helping CEOs pocket a bigger bonus, and helping the global economy, but since I'm not a CEO and since the local economy is what affects me most, its not doing me a lot of good. One good thing is that this has become a hot enough topic to be an election issue. At least now the politicians can't pretend its a non-issue anymore.
Why are they trying to ruin what made Deus Ex great? It's like they don't even know why people liked the first one.
Apparently they don't. You know what one of the -best- features of Deus Ex was? It was a LONG game. The fact that it was long made it immersive, like reading a good novel. It worked really well with the conspiracy angles in the game. It also had RPG like qualities, with the skill system and all. By dumbing it down to play well on a console, and making the game pathetically short, they managed to extract all the unique and fun stuff out of it.
So if they follow their current trend, Thief 3 will be a short-lived, dumbed down, insult to its predecessor that can be finished in 10 hours... (I have never understood why a game company will spend years writing an engine, and then skimp on the levels to the point it can be finished in a day or two)
Once you have the silicon designed it is just a "library" you plug into...
Actually as someone who designed the Motorola front-end chip I can tell you that the same front-end IC used should work in the US for GSM. The problem isn't the technology, I guessing its the carriers (ATT, Cingular, TMobile) who either don't think people will buy it, or they can't figure out how to squeeze more cash out of the people who do buy it.
The Mot chipset used has both dual-band and quad-band front-end ICs, and actually was designed for GSM (the VCO is capable of hitting the 4 main GSM bands - 850/900/1800/1900). However transferring to a different protocol isn't quite as trivial as you make it sound. The 3G and CDMA specs are harder than GSM, so to do a multi-protocol capable part you need to design to the most extreme/hardest specs of all the protocols combined (this is not a new concept, but it typically fails because the resultant part is not competitive with the protocol-specific parts on either cost, current drain - aka battery life, or any number of other factors).
Are Electrical Engineers having any similar problems with jobs being outsourced?
For EEs I don't think that the outsourcing is as bad off as in CS land, but on the other hand in a sense it has already happened to us. Many of the jobs are over in Taiwan, China, and Korea. Reason is that the employee cost is lower (as for CS) and also that is where a lot of the fabs are (fabs meaning wafer foundries). In a way, the end effect is that it has really upped the bar as far as what is required. Over in Taiwan and China it is much more common for people to pursue advanced degrees. Having that advanced degree gives them a step up in relation to many.
IMO, if you do go into EE one of the best things you can do for yourself is get a Masters degree. When I graduated with my BSEE I didn't have a clue. Sure I knew the basics, but really that is the bare minimum. Only after grinding through a MSEE for a couple extra years did I get some understanding and experience (I was lucky that my prof forced me to actually build an IC to demonstrate my thesis topic - which made me learn firsthand how to design, layout, and fab an IC via MOSIS - great experience). In the process of getting a MSEE, assuming you have a good advisor and a good topic, you might even get a publication (in an IEEE journal) or mabye even a conference presentation out of it. Sure a MS adds a couple years to school, but IMO its definitely worth it.
From what I've seen, once you are in the industry you want to start working to build up your knowledge, and also work on building up your contacts. If you go into IC design, you would do well to learn how to do both digital and analog design (very different), and digital and analog layout (also very different). Analog and digital each cover huge amounts of material. You will never know it all but have some understanding of each. You should also know how to run the different simulation tools (Cadence, Mentor, verilog, spice), layout tools, etc. Probably won't get all those in school, but try to get what you can.
The more skills you have the more employable you will be. I firmly believe that you do not get job security from your job, you get job security from your skills. I always try to keep improving my skill set. My goal is to have enough skills to be a one person design center - knowing everything from the spec to the qual'ed IC. Of the engineers I know, very few have a good skill set covering the areas I just mentioned. I could count the number on one hand, and FYI - most are american.
Contacts are the other big thing. The people you work with at your current company are going to be your doorway into the next company you work for, and the one after that. I know very few people who work at the same place for dozens of years. The workplace just isn't very kind to those people anymore.
Don't forget that the workplace is cyclic too. When I graduated with my BSEE the market was crap, you could do a half dozen interviews and get zilch. A couple years later with an MSEE, I did five interviews and got five offers (part was the market turnaround, and part was the extra degree).
802.16 is simply an evolution of the 802.11 technology, scaled for carrier grade deployment, and the servicing of a large number of end users.
Even scaled at the numbers you say, this seems like it would require a heck of a lot of cells to service a large population. In a city of a million people your talking on the order of 1000 cells (each with 10 "nodes" as you say, in them). Each of the cells being strategically placed and configured so as to not kill its neighbors.
This all sounds highly improbable in the near future - mabye 5 to 10 years out. Consider that Cingular, T-Mobile, ATT, etc have yet to complete a good network of a GSM base stations, and they have been at it for years. Now granted I've heard a GSM station is something like $100k a pop, but with 10 "nodes" a piece, plus tower, cabling to the tower, antennas, testing, etc these things can't be much cheaper. (this also implies to me the future skyline will be covered with monopole towers)
The other bit, and I'm not certain of the official status of 802.16 bands, is that cellular bands are regulated (meaning you can get in trouble if you "modify" your cell phone to boost the range). If this stuff is unlicensed, then anybody could rig their own setup right in the middle of everybody else.
I think www.sco.com as we know it will probably have traffic from this virus FOREVER.
Which they will promptly PR-spin into a positive thing - "We are getting THOUSANDS of licensing inquiries EACH DAY!!" or "Our website has become one of the most POPULAR on the internet, obviously customers are very satisfied!"
There are some great hackers out there putting out distros, but they'll never make a name for themselves compiling a distro that less than 20 people will use regularly. They should focus on doing something new, filling a niche that hasn't been filled yet.
For some of the "little" distros, disparity spurs innovation. Some people focus on PC distros, some like embedded, some like doing live CDs. No one player is going to cover all these bases.
I find it odd that some people think that the whole community should move as a united mass toward some commercial goal. I've got news for you, not all people have commercial goals. Not all people have your goals, and not all people need to have any goals. There is such a thing as an enthusiast. People have hobbies, and some of these enthusiast types like to do distros. So what if no one else uses it, it serves their interests, and to them mabye thats all that matters.
The major problem with SuSE is that you have to buy the CDs to get the distribution...
My thinking was the same a few months ago when RH decided to EOL their "consumer" versions. At first not knowing much about Fedora, I started checking into the other distros. Thought about SuSE, but didn't like the idea of forking over cash just to decide if it was the right one to settle on. Looked at a few others too, but ultimately went with Fedora (we will probably eventually standardize on RHEL WS at work, so it makes sense from that standpoint).
Point is that if there were SuSE ISOs available, I would definitely have tried it out. But forking over cash just to demo it, or downloading packages one by one is just not worth the time.
Unfortunately I wasn't all that impressed with Fedora the first month I had it. It was incredibly unstable, which was shocking since I figured it was a derivative of RH9. After dumping the stock kernel, downloading and recompiling a custom kernel (at least a couple dozen times), I managed to stabilize the box (I found that the ACPI stuff and possibly some other power management bits were the culprit, at least for me).
set up a landing zone, on dry land, and just make the containers more impact resistant.
And if one hits too hard and breaks, the crew that picks it up will all be talking in high-pitched voices, and everyone will get a good laugh..
model called the SS51G
SS51?!? Man that was out like 3 years ago. Move into 2004 and check out some newer models:
SN85G4
SB75G2
ST61G4
Don't these things make noise like a vacuum cleaner?
Depends on what you do with it. I have two Shuttle SB61G2 systems at home (P4 based), and one SB51G at work. These are a little older models - early 2003 for the SB61s and late 2002 for the SB51.
The SB51 at work runs a P4 2.8GHz (the older 533 bus), and it spends most of its time idling. Given that, it runs with -very- little noise. Occasionally I run big computational jobs on it, which get the cooler fan going a bit, but even then its quiet (the HP-UX box 6ft away on the far side of the desk easily drowns out its noise, whereas the SB51 sits just a couple feet away).
At home the SB61s run 3GHz P4s. These get hot under load. One of them runs Fedora, with seti@home jobs running 24/7. Its fan is always maxed out. Shuttle ships their boxes with Sunon fans, and they are loud at full speed (in the 40 to 50dB range I think). However I swapped it for a lower rpm, quieter fan. At idle its almost inaudible, however since it runs at full load always, I'm guessing mabye mid-30s dB wise. Its not loud, but I'm still considering ways on making it quieter. One thing I plan to do is swap the power supply in it. The older models like I have came with relatively noisy power supplies, however the new generation XPCs (the G4 ones) supposedly come with newer SilentX powersupplies that are much quieter. They match the form factor of the old ones, so I'll probably pick up some of those and swap them out.
Btw - the other SB61 at home is the gaming rig. It has a more powerful AGP-based graphics card in it, but the downside is the fan on the card is probably the dominant noise source. Although the XPC supports the very hot, very loud graphic cards, if you want quiet you'll want to pick something a couple steps back from the leading edge.
She knows nothing about technology, and rather little about business. She only knows how to drain money.
I agree. Carly is the worst thing that ever happened to HP. Go ask all the Compaq people what they think about the new "synergy" between Compaq and HP. Ask them how that "synergy" has improved their lives (you can find them over in the unemployment line)...
With the "no one has a god given right" bit that she recently spewed, and the HP-building-DRM-into-everything, she's quickly turning HP into an example of what not to do. Does anyone seriously think this "utility" computing would ever actually come from HP (and be successful) while Carly-the-buzzword-moron is running things?? I think not...
I don't know if anyone suggested it, but another option is simply to try and fix the broken piece. If the part is really unavailable, get some super glue.
Another option is to fabricate a new one - get a thick sheet of aluminum and some cutting tools (dremel, etc) and make a new bezel that is a lot better and stronger than the original plastic one.
Ahh, so exactly how far does HP need to stretch the truth before it becomes illegal then? What if the 9200 had a different internal architecture than the 9000, then would it be wrong?
Is it such a problem for HP to put a ATI 9000 sticker on the case instead of a ATI 9200 one? Its a clear case of misleading advertising. If its a 9000 then say 9000, if its a 9200 then say 9200, don't give this "it has the same performance" BS, hell they could have stuck a Geforce4 5200Go in there and got similar performance, but I would hardly call that a 9200.
Ahh, you are correct, I misunderstood the question. To the parent post, sorry, not sure how to bypass the NAT for inbound traffic.
Time Warner raised our monthly rates $20/mo. for cable t.v and modem for a total of over $120/mo.
I've noticed the same thing here (Austin,TX). Time Warner was about $100/mo for basic digital TV and cable (about $50 each) when I signed up for it. Its been quickly climbing to the $120 range. Time Warner has no shortage of customers in this area, so they are basically just squeezing people for money. Of course when you think about it, for every customer they lose ($120/mo), they need to squeeze about 12 other people to make up for the loss (extra $10/mo each).
So I'm moving in about 4 weeks and its looks like Time Warner won't be coming along. Now I get to re-explore DSL in the area, but having dealt with SW Bell DSL a couple years back I don't really like that prospect either...
No global IP addresses. Without a publicly addressable IP, any intention of sharing is crushed.
You need to check out dynamic DNS, its been out for quite a while, and many places are free - for example, see dyndns.org