It's pretty sad that people organize "protests" in a fucking -game- but won't stand up for their rights in real life. What is the matter with you people?
Yeah, and all the real-life idiots protesting the war in Iraq have really done a lot to change things, haven't they?
You complain about the futility of online protests, yet all the "real" protesters seem to have accomplished lately is making fools of themselves - blocking major highways for thousands of non-involved citizens, throwing up on government buildings, harrassing everyone they can see...And last I saw, the war was still on.
Delude yourself if you like, but protesting is not the way to effect change in the real world these days.
I didn't say "Oh, you must have broken the law, there's no other way!". When someone says they've broken in somewhere, that usually implies doing it without permission, and what you said pointed to that. All I did was make a guess from what you provided.
If all you did was find a flaw in a security measure, then say so.
I'm probably missing your point, but if you're worried about security, you might want to consider that someone might actually break the law when circumventing your ``security'' measures.
Probably. You might want to consider that security measures can be tested against unlawful techniques without actually breaking into someone's system against their wishes.
The irrelevance of your assumptions is working in your favor to negate their incorrectness in this case.
Whatever. You don't exactly seem to be a paragon of non-assumptiveness and detail either.
NAT does not in any way add security. The last two sites I've broken into (one was a shell, the next was an entire fvwm setup) were on RFC1918 addresses. I just convinced the system to make a connection back to me.
So you (probably illegaly) broke into two boxes, and want your opinion to be trusted? Hasn't this been a big issue lately? Sorry, but I don't give that sort of activity very much weight.
Yes, troll, i've already read that RFC, and it doesn't change my mind, really. The issues it raises can be dealt with rather effectively, and I still see no reason why NAT should have made SpeakFreely's author quit the project.
The author even says this:
" But one operational advantage with firewalls is that they are generally installed into networks with the explicit intent to interfere with traffic flow, so the issues are more likely to be understood or at least looked at if mysterious problems arise. The same issues with NAT devices can sometimes be overlooked since NAT devices are frequently presented as transparent to applications."
Read that a few times if it doesn't sink in. Firewall/NAT boxes are supposed to interfere with traffic flow. But if traffic needs to pass through, it can be allowed quite easily, as I said in the previous comment.
Seems you're the one who shouldn't be expressing your opinion, since you're basing your whole position on an RFC devoted to the problems of NAT.
No, troll, people love it because it adds security, it's easy to do, and it's already built-in to many consumer devices.
"Hee hee, my ISP doesn't realise I'm connecting more than one PC" BONK. Yes they do.
Hee hee, my ISP (Time Warner, maybe you've heard of the company) doesn't care if I hook up more than one PC. They even asked if I wanted help setting up a home network when I started service.
# NAT doesn't protect you from email payload viruses. # NAT doesn't protect you from spy where. You downloaded that when you downloaded the free P2P software. Once inside your NAT box, it can establish more outgoing TCP connections, and download what ever it likes. # TCP connections are full duplex - data (innocent or malicious) can be downloaded via a TCP connection initiated in the outgoing direction. That is how the WWW works !
Nobody sets up NAT to protect against email viruses or spyware, except in whatever fantasy world you're pulling arguments from.
Its just breaking the Internet, killing off useful peer to peer applications like speakeasy.
The author of SpeakEasy apparently failed to notice that 99% of NAT devices out there today can be set up to do port forwarding. I'm using a Linksys 4-port router/switch myself, for example, and if I needed to open a port for something like SpeakEasy, I could have it done in 30 seconds- open up the config page in a browser, put in the external+internal ports, pick which internal IP to forward to, save, and done.
Do people like screwing around with their NAT box configuration everytime they add a new P2P application ? (dumb question on slashdot I suppose).
Sorry, but any of the good p2p apps don't require any screwing around to work, and if they do, it's optional (eMule, for example).
All it is is mainly a multi-player interface for Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, in wich the game is LOUSY
I'm not sure which game you're referring to...If you mean FFXI, then no. It's more like Everquest, not FFTA. Much more. If you meant FF:CC, then no again. If anything, it resembles Secret of Mana/Seiken Densetsu 2, an old SNES RPG.
Really, though, it doesn't sound like you've played Tactics Advance, FF:CC, FF XI, or any other video games in quite a while.
IMO, this is what's happening Sony-Bony owned Squareenix's attempt at coming up with a game and slapping the name "Final Fantasy" on it,
Are you retarded? First of all, it's just "Sony", and secondly, they don't own any part of Square's Final Fantasy franchise. The idea that Sony is somehow funding a game for the Cube to directly compete with the PS2 is so stupid it's funny.
1. Sony-Bony owned Square-Enix's attempt at coming up with a game and slapping the name "Final Fantasy" on it, to please fans 2. It doesn't sell because it's lousy 3. Fans demand Real Final Fantasy for the Game Cube 4. Sony-Bony owned Square-enix claims it didn't sell on Gamecube, and Final Fantasy remains a Pixelation Station x Exclusive 5. ???? 6. Sony-Bony Profits
Stop eating so much sugar, step away from the keyboard, and never post again. You quite obviously have no clue whatsoever about what you're saying. Even if this is just a troll, it's still not believable at all.
Uh, no, actually. When talking about the Direct Connect (DC) P2P system as the original poster was, a "hub" is a central address that people can connect to and then share files with everyone else on that hub. Much like connecting to an IRC server.
I've wondered about this though... I mean, yeah, you're not supposed to run a web server, but if you've got a p2p program running 24/7 with all your slots full all the time, what's the difference? It's almost certainly more bandwith than running your own little web page that will never get any visitors after your aunt Tilly and your girlfriend go there once.
Yeah, that is a bit odd, now that I think about it a bit more. I'm on Time Warner Roadrunner myself, and about a week ago I downloaded around 2-3 gigs of (non-RIAA) mp3s from a DC hub in the space of 36 hours or so...Not a peep from them.
And yet i've called and been specifically told that no servers of any kind are allowed on residental connections, no matter how much bandwidth they use...The tech I talked to said that only hosts for online games were allowed, and made it sound like even that was a huge concession.
I agree with some of your points, but not these two. If you have broadband and know what you're doing, why not install apache, open up port 80, and start sharing?
Because most broadband providers in the US (Time Warner, for example) specifically prohibt residental-class customers from running web servers, and get royally pissed if you start sucking down huge amounts of bandwidth.
The only problem is your dynamic IP address, but that's nota bug, that's a feature, because it will change before the authorities will figure it out. You and all your sharing buddies can agree to post your new IP addresses at a designated place on Geocities or something. Pretty anonymous.
Are you really that nieve? You go ahead and try that...A dynamic IP won't save you from a subopena and law enforcement hitting up your ISP provider for your exact personal info. Especially since you'd likely be breaking the ISP's TOS again by sharing copyrighted material.
Find better hubs....Like you say, any hub with such large requirememnts is going to be majorly spoofed anyway, and hence worthless.
For example, the hub that was running on my campus last year only had a 550 MB requirement, and the anime/VG music hub i'm using right now only requires one full OST to be shared. Might take some searching, but there's still decent people out there.
While IE may have holes, the interface and the feel is far superior than anything else out there
Uhmm...Yeah, that's why IE's java and ActiveX support permanently and completely broke for no reason on my machine. Not even a total reinstall of Windows, Java and IE fixed it. I can't even use Windows Update with it, to say nothing of other sites using Java and such.
Sure is an awesome interface, when the majority of the sites I visit won't even display properly (if at all). There's no error dialog, no half-loaded script, nothing at all to help me figure out what's wrong- most of the UI seems to be built around glossing over errors as much as possible.
On top of that, there's no built-in support for pop-up blocking, there's at least a security hole or two almost every week, and just generally feels old and busted.
I've been using Firebird for the better part of a year now, and I couldn't be happier. It may not be perfect, but at least everything works, it feels fast and slick, and keeps junk out of my way while i'm surfing.
IE hasn't won anything...Most people just don't know there's any alternatives out there.
How is this flamebait? I'm not stating that everyone running BSD is an ass, as I know that's not true. I'm merely relating personal expreience. Sorry if that offends you, but it's not my fault.
Then cheaply duplicated mass storage hit the scene, and all of a sudden every RPG became a movie that requires the watcher to hit a button on the controller every now and then. Back in the day these games gave you a free-form feeling of being able to explore the world. Now, with the ubiquitous Cut Scene, the gameplay has to force you down a linear path, because the cut scenes have to play in order for the "game" to make any sense.
You're not playing the right games, or at least not any very good ones. Try (for example) the Arc the Lad collection, Legend of Mana, Final Fantasy Tactics, Chrono Cross, Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete, Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete, or Xenogears (replaces cut scenes with everlasting dialogue, though).
Tales of Symphonia and Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicle should be quite good when they come out for the Gamecube later this year, as well. FF: CC looks to be very much like Secret of Mana, if you like that style.
Somehow, i'm not too worried....Probably 90% of the Indians and other Asians i've had to deal with in support positions frankly don't know shit about computing.
Case in point: The Indian lab assistant I had to deal with this morning. The computer I was at couldn't see or allow setup of the normal network printer for some reason, so I waved him over. After seeing the situation, he then proceded to randomly click around in the root C: folder for 5 minutes, muttering "It should be in here somewhere...". After he tried the same "procedure" for the 3rd time, I just gave up and went to another building.
Also of note is the fact that my employer told me I beat out 30 or so other canidates for my co-op as a support technician this summer. When I asked him how that was, he said they'd had a huge amount of foreign students (at RIT, this means a high percentage of Indians, followed by Chinese, Koreans, and Vietnamese.) apply, but that when interviewed, none of them knew enough about computing to actually perform the duties they were applying for.
As for "learn good English", i'm afraid there's still a long way to go here as well. I do not define "good" as having such a thick accent or bad pronunciation that I have to ask them to repeat themselves three times before I can understand a sentence.
Take support jobs away from overpaid arrogant first worlders.
Oh, so sad that we're overpaid and arrogant. If you really want to do something about the imbalance, you'd work to change your own country instead of sounding just as arrogant yourselves.
What happens when you want to play an old Live game that has always worked in the past, but you don't want the auto-update?
Then you:
A) Give up and find another game to play.
B) Forget about hax0ring the box, let it patch, and continue playing games.
C) Buy another XBox to sacrifice to the patch gods. This way, you can play all your games and still have the hacked XBox to noodle around on.
What should happen (if you take the NASCAR regulations argument) is if MS wants to put new restrictions on who can use Live, then the current Live subscribers who don't agree to the auto-update feature should be given a pro-rated refund on the service and the XBox should NOT connect to the Live service even on Live-enabled games for the auto-update feature because this user has explicitly stated they do not want to have Live access.
That would be a viable solution, yes, but let's be realistic here. The only people that are even going to know this patch issue exists, much less care about it, are going to be people that have modified their boxes in ways Microsoft would not be happy about. Do you really think Microsoft would be so accomadating, knowing exactly what the only good reason someone would refuse the patch would be? Sucks, but anyone making modifications should have been ready to deal with what could happen.
In the end, you just have to face the facts- if you are permitted to screw with the XBox, modifying it to run Linux, pirated games, movies, whatever....Microsoft has just as much privilige to screw with the unintended bugs you're taking advantage of.
As such Microsoft is folowing Nintendos lead. Your not buying a peace of hardware your buying an entertainment pacage.
No, no, no. Unlike the everything-box Xbox, Nintendo is not trying to sell an "entertainment package", "media center", "home convergence", or whatever buzzword people are throwing around. Nintendo sells machines made for one purpose- playing games. Microsoft sells a machine that wants to be a game box, a music player, a DVD player, TV tuner, DVR, etc.
As things stand right now, Microsoft and Nintendo's strategies could barely be more opposed.
It's your hardware. You break it you fix it. But it's yours like the cable box is yours (assuming the cable company let's you buy it outright). Your still limited as to what you can do with it.
Which is fine. Some people seem to have it in their heads that everyone buying a console wants to mod/crack/install Linux/etc. They don't. 99.999999% of the population buys a game console to play games, and has absolutely zero interest in doing anything else with it, even some of the alternatives that Microsoft themselves offer. The above statement has no impact on them whatsoever, and probably never will.
Maybe you should find people that actually have a clue to give your contact information to...
I've been using Outlook for 5 years, in combination with two email address, one of which is a Yahoo/Geocities account I registered in 7th grade (starting my 4th year of college now), and I can count the number of viruses i've recieved on one hand.
Yes, Outlook can cause problems...But sometimes the users are just plain idiots, and that's not the fault of the software.
Maybe it's time for people in India to re-evaluate their career choices, then, instead of shoving all the unemployed and students over here?
It strikes me that maybe the reason they produce so many engineers these days, when their job market is already flooded, is to shuffle themselves off to the US as fast as possible. That's not good for the US, and it's not good for India.
After being hired for a technician spot earlier in the summer, my employer remarked that I had beaten out almost 30 other students, almost all of them Indian/Chinese. Yet none of them got hired because, when it came down to an interview, they were clueless regarding the skills needed to perform the work.
Whether they're qualified or not, Indians and Asians have a strong tendency to swarm over any vaguely technical job they can get here. This breeds major rensentment from those they beat out, and annoyance in those who see they can't even preform the job they're applying for (and in some cases, barely speak intelligble English).
Yes. I gave childish responses to a childish post. Waaah. You're saying what is obvious to any observer as untrue, and demanding a response. I gave you a response worthy of your posts.
Oh, please. I just said something that you didn't like, and you couldn't deal with it in a mature manner, apparently. Heaven forbid there's someone out there that doesn't think the same way you do.
As for being demanding, I seem to have said "If you can provide contradictory evidence, please do, but don't be an ass." in the original reply.
No demand there, just a wish that you would actually write a rebuttal instead of saying "Dude, you're a retard." again- took you almost 3 days to do it, but i'm glad you managed it somehow.
Now that you've actually strung more than one sentence together, I believe i'm fine now, I think. And even if still don't agree with you, I understand your position a bit better.
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It's pretty sad that people organize "protests" in a fucking -game- but won't stand up for their rights in real life. What is the matter with you people?
Yeah, and all the real-life idiots protesting the war in Iraq have really done a lot to change things, haven't they?
You complain about the futility of online protests, yet all the "real" protesters seem to have accomplished lately is making fools of themselves - blocking major highways for thousands of non-involved citizens, throwing up on government buildings, harrassing everyone they can see...And last I saw, the war was still on.
Delude yourself if you like, but protesting is not the way to effect change in the real world these days.
I didn't say "Oh, you must have broken the law, there's no other way!". When someone says they've broken in somewhere, that usually implies doing it without permission, and what you said pointed to that. All I did was make a guess from what you provided.
If all you did was find a flaw in a security measure, then say so.
I'm probably missing your point, but if you're worried about security, you might want to consider that someone might actually break the law when circumventing your ``security'' measures.
Probably. You might want to consider that security measures can be tested against unlawful techniques without actually breaking into someone's system against their wishes.
The irrelevance of your assumptions is working in your favor to negate their incorrectness in this case.
Whatever. You don't exactly seem to be a paragon of non-assumptiveness and detail either.
NAT does not in any way add security. The last two sites I've broken into (one was a shell, the next was an entire fvwm setup) were on RFC1918 addresses. I just convinced the system to make a connection back to me.
So you (probably illegaly) broke into two boxes, and want your opinion to be trusted? Hasn't this been a big issue lately? Sorry, but I don't give that sort of activity very much weight.
Yes, troll, i've already read that RFC, and it doesn't change my mind, really. The issues it raises can be dealt with rather effectively, and I still see no reason why NAT should have made SpeakFreely's author quit the project.
The author even says this:
" But one operational advantage with firewalls is that they are generally installed into networks with the explicit intent to interfere with traffic flow, so the issues are more likely to be understood or at least looked at if mysterious problems arise. The same issues with NAT devices can sometimes be overlooked since NAT devices are frequently presented as transparent to applications."
Read that a few times if it doesn't sink in. Firewall/NAT boxes are supposed to interfere with traffic flow. But if traffic needs to pass through, it can be allowed quite easily, as I said in the previous comment.
Seems you're the one who shouldn't be expressing your opinion, since you're basing your whole position on an RFC devoted to the problems of NAT.
Why do people just love NAT ?
Is it a "superiority complex" thing ?
No, troll, people love it because it adds security, it's easy to do, and it's already built-in to many consumer devices.
"Hee hee, my ISP doesn't realise I'm connecting more than one PC" BONK. Yes they do.
Hee hee, my ISP (Time Warner, maybe you've heard of the company) doesn't care if I hook up more than one PC. They even asked if I wanted help setting up a home network when I started service.
# NAT doesn't protect you from email payload viruses.
# NAT doesn't protect you from spy where. You downloaded that when you downloaded the free P2P software. Once inside your NAT box, it can establish more outgoing TCP connections, and download what ever it likes.
# TCP connections are full duplex - data (innocent or malicious) can be downloaded via a TCP connection initiated in the outgoing direction. That is how the WWW works !
Nobody sets up NAT to protect against email viruses or spyware, except in whatever fantasy world you're pulling arguments from.
Its just breaking the Internet, killing off useful peer to peer applications like speakeasy.
The author of SpeakEasy apparently failed to notice that 99% of NAT devices out there today can be set up to do port forwarding. I'm using a Linksys 4-port router/switch myself, for example, and if I needed to open a port for something like SpeakEasy, I could have it done in 30 seconds- open up the config page in a browser, put in the external+internal ports, pick which internal IP to forward to, save, and done.
Do people like screwing around with their NAT box configuration everytime they add a new P2P application ? (dumb question on slashdot I suppose).
Sorry, but any of the good p2p apps don't require any screwing around to work, and if they do, it's optional (eMule, for example).
All it is is mainly a multi-player interface for Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, in wich the game is LOUSY
I'm not sure which game you're referring to...If you mean FFXI, then no. It's more like Everquest, not FFTA. Much more. If you meant FF:CC, then no again. If anything, it resembles Secret of Mana/Seiken Densetsu 2, an old SNES RPG.
Really, though, it doesn't sound like you've played Tactics Advance, FF:CC, FF XI, or any other video games in quite a while.
IMO, this is what's happening Sony-Bony owned Squareenix's attempt at coming up with a game and slapping the name "Final Fantasy" on it,
Are you retarded? First of all, it's just "Sony", and secondly, they don't own any part of Square's Final Fantasy franchise. The idea that Sony is somehow funding a game for the Cube to directly compete with the PS2 is so stupid it's funny.
1. Sony-Bony owned Square-Enix's attempt at coming up with a game and slapping the name "Final Fantasy" on it, to please fans
2. It doesn't sell because it's lousy
3. Fans demand Real Final Fantasy for the Game Cube
4. Sony-Bony owned Square-enix claims it didn't sell on Gamecube, and Final Fantasy remains a Pixelation Station x Exclusive
5. ????
6. Sony-Bony Profits
Stop eating so much sugar, step away from the keyboard, and never post again. You quite obviously have no clue whatsoever about what you're saying. Even if this is just a troll, it's still not believable at all.
Uh, no, actually. When talking about the Direct Connect (DC) P2P system as the original poster was, a "hub" is a central address that people can connect to and then share files with everyone else on that hub. Much like connecting to an IRC server.
Dumbass.
I've wondered about this though... I mean, yeah, you're not supposed to run a web server, but if you've got a p2p program running 24/7 with all your slots full all the time, what's the difference? It's almost certainly more bandwith than running your own little web page that will never get any visitors after your aunt Tilly and your girlfriend go there once.
Yeah, that is a bit odd, now that I think about it a bit more. I'm on Time Warner Roadrunner myself, and about a week ago I downloaded around 2-3 gigs of (non-RIAA) mp3s from a DC hub in the space of 36 hours or so...Not a peep from them.
And yet i've called and been specifically told that no servers of any kind are allowed on residental connections, no matter how much bandwidth they use...The tech I talked to said that only hosts for online games were allowed, and made it sound like even that was a huge concession.
True...If you can find an ISP that'll let that slide, more power to ya.
Often, though, the choice is between the mega-big national ISP or the no-name niche ISP with horrible service.
I agree with some of your points, but not these two. If you have broadband and know what you're doing, why not install apache, open up port 80, and start sharing?
Because most broadband providers in the US (Time Warner, for example) specifically prohibt residental-class customers from running web servers, and get royally pissed if you start sucking down huge amounts of bandwidth.
The only problem is your dynamic IP address, but that's nota bug, that's a feature, because it will change before the authorities will figure it out. You and all your sharing buddies can agree to post your new IP addresses at a designated place on Geocities or something. Pretty anonymous.
Are you really that nieve? You go ahead and try that...A dynamic IP won't save you from a subopena and law enforcement hitting up your ISP provider for your exact personal info. Especially since you'd likely be breaking the ISP's TOS again by sharing copyrighted material.
Find better hubs....Like you say, any hub with such large requirememnts is going to be majorly spoofed anyway, and hence worthless.
For example, the hub that was running on my campus last year only had a 550 MB requirement, and the anime/VG music hub i'm using right now only requires one full OST to be shared. Might take some searching, but there's still decent people out there.
While IE may have holes, the interface and the feel is far superior than anything else out there
Uhmm...Yeah, that's why IE's java and ActiveX support permanently and completely broke for no reason on my machine. Not even a total reinstall of Windows, Java and IE fixed it. I can't even use Windows Update with it, to say nothing of other sites using Java and such.
Sure is an awesome interface, when the majority of the sites I visit won't even display properly (if at all). There's no error dialog, no half-loaded script, nothing at all to help me figure out what's wrong- most of the UI seems to be built around glossing over errors as much as possible.
On top of that, there's no built-in support for pop-up blocking, there's at least a security hole or two almost every week, and just generally feels old and busted.
I've been using Firebird for the better part of a year now, and I couldn't be happier. It may not be perfect, but at least everything works, it feels fast and slick, and keeps junk out of my way while i'm surfing.
IE hasn't won anything...Most people just don't know there's any alternatives out there.
How is this flamebait? I'm not stating that everyone running BSD is an ass, as I know that's not true. I'm merely relating personal expreience. Sorry if that offends you, but it's not my fault.
I'll second that....With the exception of one person, every BSD server operator i've dealt with has been an almost complete asshole.
Then cheaply duplicated mass storage hit the scene, and all of a sudden every RPG became a movie that requires the watcher to hit a button on the controller every now and then. Back in the day these games gave you a free-form feeling of being able to explore the world. Now, with the ubiquitous Cut Scene, the gameplay has to force you down a linear path, because the cut scenes have to play in order for the "game" to make any sense.
You're not playing the right games, or at least not any very good ones. Try (for example) the Arc the Lad collection, Legend of Mana, Final Fantasy Tactics, Chrono Cross, Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete, Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete, or Xenogears (replaces cut scenes with everlasting dialogue, though).
Tales of Symphonia and Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicle should be quite good when they come out for the Gamecube later this year, as well. FF: CC looks to be very much like Secret of Mana, if you like that style.
There are no PC versions of any FF games (aside from ROMS) except for FF7, FF8, and FFXI. Spend the money for a PS2 if ya really want to play it.
Or buy a Gamecube and get FF: Crystal Chronicles in February.
Normal Quicktime (in Windows) is playing it fine...Whatever the problem is, it's not with the file.
Somehow, i'm not too worried....Probably 90% of the Indians and other Asians i've had to deal with in support positions frankly don't know shit about computing.
Case in point: The Indian lab assistant I had to deal with this morning. The computer I was at couldn't see or allow setup of the normal network printer for some reason, so I waved him over. After seeing the situation, he then proceded to randomly click around in the root C: folder for 5 minutes, muttering "It should be in here somewhere...". After he tried the same "procedure" for the 3rd time, I just gave up and went to another building.
Also of note is the fact that my employer told me I beat out 30 or so other canidates for my co-op as a support technician this summer. When I asked him how that was, he said they'd had a huge amount of foreign students (at RIT, this means a high percentage of Indians, followed by Chinese, Koreans, and Vietnamese.) apply, but that when interviewed, none of them knew enough about computing to actually perform the duties they were applying for.
As for "learn good English", i'm afraid there's still a long way to go here as well. I do not define "good" as having such a thick accent or bad pronunciation that I have to ask them to repeat themselves three times before I can understand a sentence.
Take support jobs away from overpaid arrogant first worlders.
Oh, so sad that we're overpaid and arrogant. If you really want to do something about the imbalance, you'd work to change your own country instead of sounding just as arrogant yourselves.
What happens when you want to play an old Live game that has always worked in the past, but you don't want the auto-update?
Then you:
A) Give up and find another game to play.
B) Forget about hax0ring the box, let it patch, and continue playing games.
C) Buy another XBox to sacrifice to the patch gods. This way, you can play all your games and still have the hacked XBox to noodle around on.
What should happen (if you take the NASCAR regulations argument) is if MS wants to put new restrictions on who can use Live, then the current Live subscribers who don't agree to the auto-update feature should be given a pro-rated refund on the service and the XBox should NOT connect to the Live service even on Live-enabled games for the auto-update feature because this user has explicitly stated they do not want to have Live access.
That would be a viable solution, yes, but let's be realistic here. The only people that are even going to know this patch issue exists, much less care about it, are going to be people that have modified their boxes in ways Microsoft would not be happy about. Do you really think Microsoft would be so accomadating, knowing exactly what the only good reason someone would refuse the patch would be? Sucks, but anyone making modifications should have been ready to deal with what could happen.
In the end, you just have to face the facts- if you are permitted to screw with the XBox, modifying it to run Linux, pirated games, movies, whatever....Microsoft has just as much privilige to screw with the unintended bugs you're taking advantage of.
As such Microsoft is folowing Nintendos lead. Your not buying a peace of hardware your buying an entertainment pacage.
No, no, no. Unlike the everything-box Xbox, Nintendo is not trying to sell an "entertainment package", "media center", "home convergence", or whatever buzzword people are throwing around. Nintendo sells machines made for one purpose- playing games. Microsoft sells a machine that wants to be a game box, a music player, a DVD player, TV tuner, DVR, etc.
As things stand right now, Microsoft and Nintendo's strategies could barely be more opposed.
It's your hardware. You break it you fix it. But it's yours like the cable box is yours (assuming the cable company let's you buy it outright). Your still limited as to what you can do with it.
Which is fine. Some people seem to have it in their heads that everyone buying a console wants to mod/crack/install Linux/etc. They don't. 99.999999% of the population buys a game console to play games, and has absolutely zero interest in doing anything else with it, even some of the alternatives that Microsoft themselves offer. The above statement has no impact on them whatsoever, and probably never will.
Sooo....Don't plug the Xbox up to an unmonitored connection to the general Internet, then. Or don't plug it up at all.
:P
What, you think Microsoft is going to use Jedi mind tricks to move the data with no conection?
Maybe you should find people that actually have a clue to give your contact information to...
I've been using Outlook for 5 years, in combination with two email address, one of which is a Yahoo/Geocities account I registered in 7th grade (starting my 4th year of college now), and I can count the number of viruses i've recieved on one hand.
Yes, Outlook can cause problems...But sometimes the users are just plain idiots, and that's not the fault of the software.
Maybe it's time for people in India to re-evaluate their career choices, then, instead of shoving all the unemployed and students over here?
It strikes me that maybe the reason they produce so many engineers these days, when their job market is already flooded, is to shuffle themselves off to the US as fast as possible. That's not good for the US, and it's not good for India.
After being hired for a technician spot earlier in the summer, my employer remarked that I had beaten out almost 30 other students, almost all of them Indian/Chinese. Yet none of them got hired because, when it came down to an interview, they were clueless regarding the skills needed to perform the work.
Whether they're qualified or not, Indians and Asians have a strong tendency to swarm over any vaguely technical job they can get here. This breeds major rensentment from those they beat out, and annoyance in those who see they can't even preform the job they're applying for (and in some cases, barely speak intelligble English).
Wow, you really have a one-track mind, don't you?
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Be a little more creative....I've heard 8-year olds come up with better insults
Yes. I gave childish responses to a childish post. Waaah. You're saying what is obvious to any observer as untrue, and demanding a response. I gave you a response worthy of your posts.
Oh, please. I just said something that you didn't like, and you couldn't deal with it in a mature manner, apparently. Heaven forbid there's someone out there that doesn't think the same way you do.
As for being demanding, I seem to have said "If you can provide contradictory evidence, please do, but don't be an ass." in the original reply.
No demand there, just a wish that you would actually write a rebuttal instead of saying "Dude, you're a retard." again- took you almost 3 days to do it, but i'm glad you managed it somehow.
Now that you've actually strung more than one sentence together, I believe i'm fine now, I think. And even if still don't agree with you, I understand your position a bit better.
Have a nice life.