If you don't run Windows, then you're not going to be able to run 100% of Windows software- there's just no way around it with things as they are.
Either suck it up and wait, or don't complain that you have to install Winamp to use a plugin specifically made for Winamp.
I like (and run) Linux as much as the next guy, but making comments like that as soon as software is released causes people to appear incredibly ungrateful. Cut the kids some slack, i'm sure your XMMS plugin will be done soon.
I suppose that's probably true, but I don't think people are actually afraid of all that....Frustrated or unknowledgeable sometimes, maybe, but not afraid.
The "nasty stuff" you mention is just another part of dealing with computers for most people- stuff goes wrong, they find someone that can fix it, and voila, things are back to normal.
As for doing mundane online activity X, anyone i've ever told about those sort of things is usally more "Wow, cool!" than anything else. I don't really have users in the sys admin sense(yet), though, just family members and some tech support work.
I'm confident, but not suicidal:) I've never been one for saving my bank details on my PC, though...No reason for it really.
I suppose I should revise that by saying i've never been infected by a virus or trojan, never discovered evidence of files deleted/hax0red without my knowledge, and as far as I know, I don't have any publically visible unprotected/unmonitored access points into my system.
Yay for useless exaggeration, eh? Beyond general technophobia, i've never known anyone that's afraid of their machines...Sounds like you're more afraid of Windows than anything else, actually.
At any rate, surfing the web on a Windows box feels like...Nothing, really. If you're comparing it to drive-by shootings, I think you have worse things to think about than your OS choice.:P
Do you really not mind running machines that are completely insecure?
Nice blanket statement. I don't know about any Windows box you've run, but I know for damn sure that nobody's getting into mine without permission.
It's just like any other OS...If you don't know what the hell you're doing, you're going to leave holes. If, on the other hand, you use common sense and take precautions, you'll be perfectly fine.
What is the continuing allure?
I think most of the allure comes from the fact that 95% of regular consumer software will ONLY run as it was meant to on a Windows platform. People want stuff they buy to work out of the box- not needing endless tweaking of WINE and such to run under a foreign OS.
You get ~100% of Windows games and applications like Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Illustrator, Office, etc. running flawlessly under Linux, and droves of people would switch.
Until then, don't act so suprised that the populace isn't running to reformat their drives.
I'm not saying the trailer isn't relevant, but I don't think it's enough to base a fully-formed opinion on, either.
Who knows, maybe they even went back and reshot/re-computed/re-whatever some of the scenes in the trailer after it released. And even if they didn't, all you saw were flashes of scenes, not the whole thing:)
And yeah, no matter how it turns out, i'm going to see it at least once, if only to catch the kendo-street-sign action....I have a feeling i'll be sitting there with my jaw on the floor for the duration.
I'm not asking this in a trolling way, just merely curious...
What do you eat if you want to totally avoid sugar and processed flour? Heck, even fruits and veggies all have sugar in them, so being a vegetarian wouldn't save you.
Here's another thought...Wait until you (or someone trustworthy) has actual evidence of something like that, before spouting off?
Linux is cool, I have a dual-boot set up myself, but- I cannot reliably run 99% of the Windows games and many other programs i've spent hundreds of dollars on under Linux. Hence, I and many others like me can't just switch over to an all-Linux box, just because the Man at Microsoft might be slipping nasty stuff in that there's no evidence of.
I would be insulted, but....I'm using Windows XP at the moment, I just got out of the shower, and i'm living in a rather nice apartment with my girlfriend.
I'm not part of the "Office people" group, though, Mr. Troll, so where do I fit in, eh?
Log in first if you'd like to continue and you want me to care:)
Do that many people really buy their software from an office supply store?
Let em' do what they want...I know the only software I buy lately is games, and there's not exactly a shortage of places to find those.
Most Microsoft software people use comes pre-installed, anyway, and for the (likely) specialized stuff that doesn't, Office Depot isn't exactly the first place most people think of.
For the love of pete! Not CN again!! They ALWAYS butcher things up.
then
Not to mention I don't like to watch ANYTHING dubbed other than the original language (at least in english anyways; I can deal with American movies dubbed in other languages....)
and
Why can't they use the SAP mode to air both english (for those loonies) and Japanese (true anime connoisseurs) and subtitles in the closed-captioning block of it?
So....
A) Bitch at CN's parent company, good ol' Time Warner, before you whine at them. I don't claim to 100% know for sure, but i'm pretty confident that CN's not the one making overreaching decisions on censoring.
B) Why are you even watching CN in the first place, if you apparently loathe all English-dubbed anime? Nobody's forcing you to watch it, so don't whine to everyone else if you're just being masochistic.
C) Drop the elitist attitude. Some anime viewers think a few english dubs are actually pretty good (Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, and Gundam Wing, to name my favorites), and in any case, don't have the time or inclination to learn an entirely new language just to watch a TV show. Some people actually watch for (gasp!) entertainment, rather than to gain l33tness by listing all the Japanese shows they've watched and collected.
I can't speak for all of the series you listed in your boasting, but since you happened to mention Trigun...You do realize that the US DVDs for 99.99999% of anime out there (which includes Trigun's box set) all have alternate audio tracks and subtitles for at least English and Japanese, and possibly other languages. I'm guessing those weren't pure enough for you or something, though.
Plus, they were in no way trying to pass OpenOffice off as Microsoft's Office, and the files weren't/aren't even designed to run on the same operating system...
What exactly are you trying to insinuate with that analogy?
I know how feel about not switching, broadband is addicting. I've grown to love the OC-3 connection (via Ethernet in a dorm) provided by my school, and i've already arranged for cable net' in the apartment i'm moving to next week.
The only thing you are missing out on is Highspeed downloading of all that spam in your mail box and Linux ISO's.
Right....Linux ISO images are the only thing I use my high-speed connection for....Not everyone confines their computer use to just web browsing/email, running servers, coding, or playing around with Linux, you know.
But anyway, i'd say you miss out on a lot more than just highspeed downloading when on dialup- you have to deal with busy signals, lag even on simple web browsing, inability to do much more than just simple web browsing, random disconnects....You get the picture.
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Gotta love it.....Gundam Wing will always have a special spot in my heart for that sort of thing.
Long live Treiz Khushrenada! And ph33r the eyebrow!
Riiiight....And how many different series have you watched, besides Pokemon, or maybe DBZ?
Not many, i'm guessing.
Just like with every other genre, there's some crap mixed in with the pure gold. I'd suggest watching stuff like Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, or some of the later Gundam stuff like Gundam Wing or Gundam Seed.
Good examples of great animation and/or storylines, and I think you'd find your mind changing pretty fast.
How about for Uni/college students to and from dorms?
Try to find a student that legitimately has the cash and a real need for this, and you'll be looking a long time, I think.
I don't know about where you live, but where I am, it's only a 15 minute walk at most to the other side of campus, and shuttle buses run to and from the dorm/apartment areas to the academic side all day.
Add to that the uncountable number of people with rollerblades, skateboards, and (techinically illegal on campus sidewalks, you think Segways wouldn't be?) bicycles, plus a fanatical campus security department.....I just don't see Segways invading anytime soon.
Further evidence that anyone sharing gigantic amounts of files outside their local network is a dumbass.
You'd be suprised how much more lenient schools are when you don't clog outgoing bandwidth, and use all the happy internal cabling that your dorm/apartment/cardboard box complex has hooked up.
Yes, I have watched it...All of the movies, TNG, DS9, but like you, very little of Voyager.
Anyway, I think you misunderstand what I was trying to say. Yes, Trek may have a lot of cheesy technobable, and i'm perfectly willing to admit that some of it is awful, but he's griping about it and getting the details ALL WRONG.
Further, he rips the movie (and the whole series, really) a new one, because it doesn't match his personal expectation of what future technology should be like.
Not liking the (current) franchise is one thing, but basically making up bad points about it is another.
Stuff like whining that the shields need to "get new batteries", or assuming that every single alien ever shown in the franchise is a Klingon....I'm not saying reviewers shouldn't have personal opinions, but again, but he should at least get the facts right about what he's reviewing, and not act like an annoyed little kid.
If you need anything more, re-read my other two posts on the subject, or go look at the thread my post from December was in. Looks like some people agreed with me, too.
Already posted on this back when the movie first came out, but I guess I can do it again.
I'm sorry, but Ebert's review was worthless.
The man spends the whole 700 words of his review whining and making mistakes that nobody who had watched even a few episodes of TNG (or even TOS, for that matter) would make.
Example:
This far in the future they wouldn't have sparks because they wouldn't have electricity, because in a world where you can beam matter--beam it, mind you--from here to there, power obviously no longer lives in the wall and travels through wires.
Riiiight....So the uncountable number of power conduits, control circuits, etc. that have been shown throughout all the series...Just there for decoration?
Or these gems:
I've also had it with the force shield that protects the Enterprise. The power on this thing is always going down.
...and I'm thinking, life is too short to sit through 10 movies in which the power is shifted around on these shields. The shields have been losing power for decades now, and here it is the Second Generation of Star Trek, and they still haven't fixed them. Maybe they should get new batteries.
"technical" details aside, those sort of grade-schooler comments only reinforce the fact that he has not a clue in hell about the Trek universe. I can understand not liking the series, but geez....If you're going to rant about details, GET THEM RIGHT!
And lastly, the part you quoted:
I think it is time for "Star Trek" to make a mighty leap forward another 1,000 years into the future, to a time when starships do not look like rides in a 1970s amusement arcade, when aliens do not look like humans with funny foreheads, and when wonder, astonishment and literacy are permitted back into the series. Star Trek was kind of terrific once, but now it is a copy of a copy of a copy.
I don't know about him, but i've seen 1970's arcade machines and games, and they sure as hell don't look anything like stuff in the modern Enterprise-D/E shown in recent series and movies. The only time that rang true was when it actually WAS 1970.
As for the "humans with funny foreheads" comment, he has, again, obviously never watched more than possibly one or two episodes of TNG, that probably involved Klingons.
Only one thing has been nailed with that review: My opinion that the man should never be allowed to review a Sci-Fi movie again.
If that fact horrifies you so much, at least have the guts to log in and say it,troll.
No one life is more important than anyone else's, and that applies in all cases. What good reason do you have why a shuttle accident should not have media coverage?
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Why is this insightful?
If you don't run Windows, then you're not going to be able to run 100% of Windows software- there's just no way around it with things as they are.
Either suck it up and wait, or don't complain that you have to install Winamp to use a plugin specifically made for Winamp.
I like (and run) Linux as much as the next guy, but making comments like that as soon as software is released causes people to appear incredibly ungrateful. Cut the kids some slack, i'm sure your XMMS plugin will be done soon.
I suppose that's probably true, but I don't think people are actually afraid of all that....Frustrated or unknowledgeable sometimes, maybe, but not afraid.
The "nasty stuff" you mention is just another part of dealing with computers for most people- stuff goes wrong, they find someone that can fix it, and voila, things are back to normal.
As for doing mundane online activity X, anyone i've ever told about those sort of things is usally more "Wow, cool!" than anything else. I don't really have users in the sys admin sense(yet), though, just family members and some tech support work.
lol :)
:) I've never been one for saving my bank details on my PC, though...No reason for it really.
I'm confident, but not suicidal
I suppose I should revise that by saying i've never been infected by a virus or trojan, never discovered evidence of files deleted/hax0red without my knowledge, and as far as I know, I don't have any publically visible unprotected/unmonitored access points into my system.
*feeds troll*
:P
No.
Yay for useless exaggeration, eh? Beyond general technophobia, i've never known anyone that's afraid of their machines...Sounds like you're more afraid of Windows than anything else, actually.
At any rate, surfing the web on a Windows box feels like...Nothing, really. If you're comparing it to drive-by shootings, I think you have worse things to think about than your OS choice.
Do you really not mind running machines that are completely insecure?
Nice blanket statement. I don't know about any Windows box you've run, but I know for damn sure that nobody's getting into mine without permission.
It's just like any other OS...If you don't know what the hell you're doing, you're going to leave holes. If, on the other hand, you use common sense and take precautions, you'll be perfectly fine.
What is the continuing allure?
I think most of the allure comes from the fact that 95% of regular consumer software will ONLY run as it was meant to on a Windows platform. People want stuff they buy to work out of the box- not needing endless tweaking of WINE and such to run under a foreign OS.
You get ~100% of Windows games and applications like Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Illustrator, Office, etc. running flawlessly under Linux, and droves of people would switch.
Until then, don't act so suprised that the populace isn't running to reformat their drives.
I'm not saying the trailer isn't relevant, but I don't think it's enough to base a fully-formed opinion on, either.
:)
Who knows, maybe they even went back and reshot/re-computed/re-whatever some of the scenes in the trailer after it released. And even if they didn't, all you saw were flashes of scenes, not the whole thing
And yeah, no matter how it turns out, i'm going to see it at least once, if only to catch the kendo-street-sign action....I have a feeling i'll be sitting there with my jaw on the floor for the duration.
So, you're basing your opinion of the movie's effects on a 45-second trailer that came out almost a year ago?
:)
Mmmkay.
But this time they've resorted to the Lucas path of "Let's just DO IT ALL IN 3D!"
Did you even RTFA? The stuff they're describing(and have pulled off, it seems)is a physical impossibility to be done with live actors and equipment.
How would you suggest they do it? Sock puppets? Peeps leftover from last Easter?
Just wait and actually watch the movie before you lambaste it
I'm not asking this in a trolling way, just merely curious...
What do you eat if you want to totally avoid sugar and processed flour? Heck, even fruits and veggies all have sugar in them, so being a vegetarian wouldn't save you.
Here's another thought...Wait until you (or someone trustworthy) has actual evidence of something like that, before spouting off?
Linux is cool, I have a dual-boot set up myself, but- I cannot reliably run 99% of the Windows games and many other programs i've spent hundreds of dollars on under Linux. Hence, I and many others like me can't just switch over to an all-Linux box, just because the Man at Microsoft might be slipping nasty stuff in that there's no evidence of.
I would be insulted, but....I'm using Windows XP at the moment, I just got out of the shower, and i'm living in a rather nice apartment with my girlfriend.
:)
I'm not part of the "Office people" group, though, Mr. Troll, so where do I fit in, eh?
Log in first if you'd like to continue and you want me to care
Do that many people really buy their software from an office supply store?
Let em' do what they want...I know the only software I buy lately is games, and there's not exactly a shortage of places to find those.
Most Microsoft software people use comes pre-installed, anyway, and for the (likely) specialized stuff that doesn't, Office Depot isn't exactly the first place most people think of.
For the love of pete! Not CN again!!
They ALWAYS butcher things up.
then
Not to mention I don't like to watch ANYTHING dubbed other than the original language (at least in english anyways; I can deal with American movies dubbed in other languages....)
and
Why can't they use the SAP mode to air both english (for those loonies) and Japanese (true anime connoisseurs) and subtitles in the closed-captioning block of it?
So....
A) Bitch at CN's parent company, good ol' Time Warner, before you whine at them. I don't claim to 100% know for sure, but i'm pretty confident that CN's not the one making overreaching decisions on censoring.
B) Why are you even watching CN in the first place, if you apparently loathe all English-dubbed anime? Nobody's forcing you to watch it, so don't whine to everyone else if you're just being masochistic.
C) Drop the elitist attitude. Some anime viewers think a few english dubs are actually pretty good (Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, and Gundam Wing, to name my favorites), and in any case, don't have the time or inclination to learn an entirely new language just to watch a TV show. Some people actually watch for (gasp!) entertainment, rather than to gain l33tness by listing all the Japanese shows they've watched and collected.
I can't speak for all of the series you listed in your boasting, but since you happened to mention Trigun...You do realize that the US DVDs for 99.99999% of anime out there (which includes Trigun's box set) all have alternate audio tracks and subtitles for at least English and Japanese, and possibly other languages. I'm guessing those weren't pure enough for you or something, though.
Flame away!
Plus, they were in no way trying to pass OpenOffice off as Microsoft's Office, and the files weren't/aren't even designed to run on the same operating system...
What exactly are you trying to insinuate with that analogy?
Hey, no hard feelings.
I know how feel about not switching, broadband is addicting. I've grown to love the OC-3 connection (via Ethernet in a dorm) provided by my school, and i've already arranged for cable net' in the apartment i'm moving to next week.
The only thing you are missing out on is Highspeed downloading of all that spam in your mail box and Linux ISO's.
Right....Linux ISO images are the only thing I use my high-speed connection for....Not everyone confines their computer use to just web browsing/email, running servers, coding, or playing around with Linux, you know.
But anyway, i'd say you miss out on a lot more than just highspeed downloading when on dialup- you have to deal with busy signals, lag even on simple web browsing, inability to do much more than just simple web browsing, random disconnects....You get the picture.
"You just need to yell it at your opponent before you attack while bantering with them on the philosophical implications of using Windows in deadly combat."
Gotta love it.....Gundam Wing will always have a special spot in my heart for that sort of thing.
Long live Treiz Khushrenada! And ph33r the eyebrow!
Riiiight....And how many different series have you watched, besides Pokemon, or maybe DBZ?
Not many, i'm guessing.
Just like with every other genre, there's some crap mixed in with the pure gold. I'd suggest watching stuff like Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, or some of the later Gundam stuff like Gundam Wing or Gundam Seed.
Good examples of great animation and/or storylines, and I think you'd find your mind changing pretty fast.
How about for Uni/college students to and from dorms?
Try to find a student that legitimately has the cash and a real need for this, and you'll be looking a long time, I think.
I don't know about where you live, but where I am, it's only a 15 minute walk at most to the other side of campus, and shuttle buses run to and from the dorm/apartment areas to the academic side all day.
Add to that the uncountable number of people with rollerblades, skateboards, and (techinically illegal on campus sidewalks, you think Segways wouldn't be?) bicycles, plus a fanatical campus security department.....I just don't see Segways invading anytime soon.
Further evidence that anyone sharing gigantic amounts of files outside their local network is a dumbass.
You'd be suprised how much more lenient schools are when you don't clog outgoing bandwidth, and use all the happy internal cabling that your dorm/apartment/cardboard box complex has hooked up.
How cheap are CD Burners?
Well, around Christmas, I got a Lite-On LTR-52246 52x24x52 from Newegg for $69.99 w/free shipping, it's on sale for $54 at the moment though.
Not much in the way of freebies or rebates, but it's worked like a dream so far...~75 CD's burnt of all different types, not a single coaster.
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Seeing a Microsoft ad come up randomly means nothing. Oh, and using "M$" makes you ub3r l337. No, really, it does.
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Yes, I have watched it...All of the movies, TNG, DS9, but like you, very little of Voyager.
Anyway, I think you misunderstand what I was trying to say. Yes, Trek may have a lot of cheesy technobable, and i'm perfectly willing to admit that some of it is awful, but he's griping about it and getting the details ALL WRONG.
Further, he rips the movie (and the whole series, really) a new one, because it doesn't match his personal expectation of what future technology should be like.
Not liking the (current) franchise is one thing, but basically making up bad points about it is another.
Stuff like whining that the shields need to "get new batteries", or assuming that every single alien ever shown in the franchise is a Klingon....I'm not saying reviewers shouldn't have personal opinions, but again, but he should at least get the facts right about what he's reviewing, and not act like an annoyed little kid.
If you need anything more, re-read my other two posts on the subject, or go look at the thread my post from December was in. Looks like some people agreed with me, too.
I'm sorry, but Ebert's review was worthless.
The man spends the whole 700 words of his review whining and making mistakes that nobody who had watched even a few episodes of TNG (or even TOS, for that matter) would make.
Example:
This far in the future they wouldn't have sparks because they wouldn't have electricity, because in a world where you can beam matter--beam it, mind you--from here to there, power obviously no longer lives in the wall and travels through wires.
Riiiight....So the uncountable number of power conduits, control circuits, etc. that have been shown throughout all the series...Just there for decoration?
Or these gems:
I've also had it with the force shield that protects the Enterprise. The power on this thing is always going down.
"technical" details aside, those sort of grade-schooler comments only reinforce the fact that he has not a clue in hell about the Trek universe. I can understand not liking the series, but geez....If you're going to rant about details, GET THEM RIGHT!
And lastly, the part you quoted:
I think it is time for "Star Trek" to make a mighty leap forward another 1,000 years into the future, to a time when starships do not look like rides in a 1970s amusement arcade, when aliens do not look like humans with funny foreheads, and when wonder, astonishment and literacy are permitted back into the series. Star Trek was kind of terrific once, but now it is a copy of a copy of a copy.
I don't know about him, but i've seen 1970's arcade machines and games, and they sure as hell don't look anything like stuff in the modern Enterprise-D/E shown in recent series and movies. The only time that rang true was when it actually WAS 1970.
As for the "humans with funny foreheads" comment, he has, again, obviously never watched more than possibly one or two episodes of TNG, that probably involved Klingons.
Only one thing has been nailed with that review: My opinion that the man should never be allowed to review a Sci-Fi movie again.
I know i'm just nitpicking, but geez, if you take the time to post something(redundant), get the facts right.
200K miles * 5280 feet/mile = 1,056,000,000 feet
Actual distance = 200,000 feet
Not exactly a small difference.
If that fact horrifies you so much, at least have the guts to log in and say it,troll.
No one life is more important than anyone else's, and that applies in all cases. What good reason do you have why a shuttle accident should not have media coverage?