(a) an out of date and small but stable repository (main) or (b) a large and up to date but often broken repository (universe).
(a) is precisely what most normal users want. Normal users use their computers as tools, and don't care if they have the latest whizbang version of Gaim, as long as they can IM their friends.
Who are you kidding? I'd say it is clear to see that people do want the new whizbang versions of Gaim, GNOME, OpenOffice, USB hot-swapping, etc. That is why so many people are now using Ubuntu.
I've come from FreeBSD (which I love as a desktop and a server) for Ubuntu because it "just works". I like apt (for which I thank Debian for the tool and most of the packages) and I like the nifty update applet that pops up when new updates are available.
It seems to me that most people run Debian as a server or use Debian testing/unstable as a desktop, while some even run stable as a main desktop machine. All of this talk makes me wonder if Debian shouldn't concentrate on being just a server platform and let Ubuntu take over on the desktop. Those that want stability and security can use a two-year out-of-date Ubuntu release with all the patches and so on.
Unfortunately, I don't know where this would leave those desktop users with less mainstream architectures.
Americans don't get out of the country too much because they already have way more country to explore than your average European does.
What about all of those different cultures? I can imagine there are a lot of different cultures in America (I've never been) but there is no way that you'll experience as much culture travelling all around America as you would visiting a few places in Europe or Asia, for example.
It looks like these are all staged. They look pretty cool but I'd be a damn site more impressed if if could be done "live" with a webcam behind the monitor...:-)
Not a comparison but a series of questions. I installed FC3 prior to Hoary as it specifically had an Internationalization Project. I very quickly discovered that it did, but getting foreign input working (say Japanese) without running the whole thing in Japanese was not straightforward.
This didn't seem to be lost on just me either, many people seem to have written it off as a result.
Hoary wasn't instant but the process of installing the input method and adding two lines to my.gnomerc was very straightforward and almost certainly faster (better?) than sorting the same on FC3.
So, I'm curious to know how FC4 handles:
Foreign input, Wireless support (Atheros/Madwifi), Alternative packages (I know this should be straightforward but I had a lot of trouble trying to install the madwifi stuff without updating the rest of my system to those packages in that repository).
In fact, now that I remember... FC3's up2date was slow and very buggy. Has this been fixed?
I'd be much more interested to know how Solaris 10 handles things like:
CD/DVD writing, wireless cards, PCMCIA/Cardbus devices, USB hotswapping (i.e. does it pop up and say you've plugged a USB HDD in and offer to mount it?), Input types (i.e. Japanese, Chinese, etc.).
I've recently been trying out many Linux distros (FC3, SuSE 9.2, Mandrake (latest -- 10.1?), Gentoo and Debian) to check out how well they handle these things. So far I've been most impressed with Ubuntu. As a long-time FreeBSD user I have been very impressed how things have advanced with Linux in the last four or five years.
I'm aware how well Solaris 10 cuts it in the server arena but does it even come close to the likes of FC, SuSE and Ubuntu for desktop use?
> Why is it that I'm forced to pay for features I don't want?
You don't have to. It might not be a benefit to you, but it sure will be to others. You get to pick and choose. This is the first of its kind but you can sure there will be more along soon; maybe one will even meet your requirements;)
MythTV is linked heavily in the article itself. Also, MythTV and Freevo largely have different goals and design ideals.
For example, MythTV is Linux *only*, while Freevo has a FreeBSD port and could easily be switched over to Net or OpenBSD.
As for Python being slow -- this is all covered quite well in the article and from experience I can say you wouldn't know you were using Python (at least judging by speed).
If you bothered to read the article you would realise Freevo does a lot more than allow you to watch TV.
I use Freevo on a tuner-less PC. I have it hooked up to my projector and it is a lot easier to use a remote control and pick the DVD or CD I dumped to my hard disk, show people my holiday photos (with nice alpha blending), listen to the radio, download information and images about the film from Amazon.
Sure, I could do all this with mplayer, realplay and Firefox but it's a damn site easier to press a few logical buttons on a remote control to do it.
5-20W here and there don't really mean much to you and I, but when you're footing the electric bill for several hundreds or thousands of people then giving everyone barn burners to run Excel starts to look pretty foolish.
You really think so? Where I work monitors (big 21" CRTs) are left on 24/7. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen anybody sit down at them. It's always roasting and the lights never go off.
Somehow the poster of the parent has been modded down for Trolling, regardless of the fact that it is a valid point, within the context of the article, and definitely not a troll.
I frequently wonder what will happen as people start to shift more focus onto the software we so highly regard. Hands down Firefox is a more usable browser but I don't think it yet has the sort of attention that Internet Explorer does. Until such a time we will never truly know just how resilient Firefox is.
Lucky man ! So you don't have a whole population of parasits at work, spending most of their time forwarding (and even designing for the brightest ones) unfunny powerpoint documents to their whole addressbook ?
It would certainly raise a lot of awareness if Slashdot went ahead and put up an entry-page or banner.
I know this won't happen (such action would set a precedence -- all petitioners would expect the limelight) for obvious reasons but it would sure be interesting if it did.
So far I've read a lot of ``only build from source if the packages don't suit.'' I agree with this entirely.
If, however, there is some major benefit to building from source (features, bugs, etc.) then you can still create a package of your compiled source. That way you still have the ease of maintenance.
No, honestly. I wouldn't bother. It's not that good. Besides... how much spam comes from the UK anyway? It's all from (search for real figures) China, etc. This will probably have little/no effect on spam counts.
So student don't really need computers at the dorms. In fact, they usually keep them from learning.
Well... what about the people that are involved in, say... rowing, sports, anything non-course specific? Do we ban them too? I mean, people with computers in their houses -- they probably detract from people doing house work (cleaning, cooking, sleeping); we should probably remove those too, right?
Having an A4 sheet detailing where to get the patch and removal tool (possibly mirrored locally) would be a good idea too.
Okay, so you give them the URL on the paper, right? Then what do they do? Call up the tech. support people and ask them to shout the patch down the 'phone? I can imagine it now: ``was that `one-one-oh', or `one-oh-oh'?''
Microsoft do something like this in the first place? I'm sure it would have alleviated some of the problems and prevented the necessitation (wow, does that make sense?) for ``removing'' windowsupdate.com.
You might quote legal implications on MS' behalf but I'm sure they make those EULAs for a reason... there'll be some ``get out of jail free card'' they could use there.
I'm wondering if there is a automated ports checker to verify which ports compile out of the box?
I can't answer this fully but I know that Kris Kennaway posts ``INDEX build failed'' messages to the freebsd-ports mailing list quite frequently. From what I understand he goes to/usr/ports and does a ``make index''. The ports that this fails on are most likely those listed. So, it's not automated but pretty good just the same.
So they are going to intergrate a Hotmail mail box into the next version of windows.
If this truly is the case I see this as a Good Thing(TM). This way Microsoft have a lot more control (okay, I guess that's a downside;) over the security: if it's fully integrated they can do patching in a slightly different way. Also, any arguments about ``webmail'' being slow are made redundant... if they go the right way about it*.
* -- specifically I'd expect some kind of built-in webmail client that works in a way very much similar to IMAP. In fact, the old OE did support HTTP mail (Hotmail). This is the kind of integrated support I would really like to see.
Slashdot Mirror
That's the answer? Are you sure? To what?
Last time I checked I wasn't forcibly required to have Slashdot show up in my inbox four or five times a day.
Ads are a legitimate form of advertising, spam (by definition) is not.
Who are you kidding? I'd say it is clear to see that people do want the new whizbang versions of Gaim, GNOME, OpenOffice, USB hot-swapping, etc. That is why so many people are now using Ubuntu.
I've come from FreeBSD (which I love as a desktop and a server) for Ubuntu because it "just works". I like apt (for which I thank Debian for the tool and most of the packages) and I like the nifty update applet that pops up when new updates are available.
It seems to me that most people run Debian as a server or use Debian testing/unstable as a desktop, while some even run stable as a main desktop machine. All of this talk makes me wonder if Debian shouldn't concentrate on being just a server platform and let Ubuntu take over on the desktop. Those that want stability and security can use a two-year out-of-date Ubuntu release with all the patches and so on.
Unfortunately, I don't know where this would leave those desktop users with less mainstream architectures.
Americans don't get out of the country too much because they already have way more country to explore than your average European does.
What about all of those different cultures? I can imagine there are a lot of different cultures in America (I've never been) but there is no way that you'll experience as much culture travelling all around America as you would visiting a few places in Europe or Asia, for example.
It looks like these are all staged. They look pretty cool but I'd be a damn site more impressed if if could be done "live" with a webcam behind the monitor... :-)
Not a comparison but a series of questions. I installed FC3 prior to Hoary as it specifically had an Internationalization Project. I very quickly discovered that it did, but getting foreign input working (say Japanese) without running the whole thing in Japanese was not straightforward.
.gnomerc was very straightforward and almost certainly faster (better?) than sorting the same on FC3.
This didn't seem to be lost on just me either, many people seem to have written it off as a result.
Hoary wasn't instant but the process of installing the input method and adding two lines to my
So, I'm curious to know how FC4 handles:
Foreign input,
Wireless support (Atheros/Madwifi),
Alternative packages (I know this should be straightforward but I had a lot of trouble trying to install the madwifi stuff without updating the rest of my system to those packages in that repository).
In fact, now that I remember... FC3's up2date was slow and very buggy. Has this been fixed?
If Sun is to kill Linux (at least on the desktop) they'll have to do a damn site better than this.
Still, I suppose this is the first ``real'' attempt so we can but wait and see...
I'd be much more interested to know how Solaris 10 handles things like:
CD/DVD writing,
wireless cards,
PCMCIA/Cardbus devices,
USB hotswapping (i.e. does it pop up and say you've plugged a USB HDD in and offer to mount it?),
Input types (i.e. Japanese, Chinese, etc.).
I've recently been trying out many Linux distros (FC3, SuSE 9.2, Mandrake (latest -- 10.1?), Gentoo and Debian) to check out how well they handle these things. So far I've been most impressed with Ubuntu. As a long-time FreeBSD user I have been very impressed how things have advanced with Linux in the last four or five years.
I'm aware how well Solaris 10 cuts it in the server arena but does it even come close to the likes of FC, SuSE and Ubuntu for desktop use?
> Why is it that I'm forced to pay for features I don't want?
;)
You don't have to. It might not be a benefit to you, but it sure will be to others. You get to pick and choose. This is the first of its kind but you can sure there will be more along soon; maybe one will even meet your requirements
MythTV is linked heavily in the article itself. Also, MythTV and Freevo largely have different goals and design ideals.
For example, MythTV is Linux *only*, while Freevo has a FreeBSD port and could easily be switched over to Net or OpenBSD.
As for Python being slow -- this is all covered quite well in the article and from experience I can say you wouldn't know you were using Python (at least judging by speed).
If you bothered to read the article you would realise Freevo does a lot more than allow you to watch TV.
I use Freevo on a tuner-less PC. I have it hooked up to my projector and it is a lot easier to use a remote control and pick the DVD or CD I dumped to my hard disk, show people my holiday photos (with nice alpha blending), listen to the radio, download information and images about the film from Amazon.
Sure, I could do all this with mplayer, realplay and Firefox but it's a damn site easier to press a few logical buttons on a remote control to do it.
You really think so? Where I work monitors (big 21" CRTs) are left on 24/7. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen anybody sit down at them. It's always roasting and the lights never go off.
Somehow the poster of the parent has been modded down for Trolling, regardless of the fact that it is a valid point, within the context of the article, and definitely not a troll.
I frequently wonder what will happen as people start to shift more focus onto the software we so highly regard. Hands down Firefox is a more usable browser but I don't think it yet has the sort of attention that Internet Explorer does. Until such a time we will never truly know just how resilient Firefox is.
Hell, after about three minutes I was beginning to tire of the video. By the sixth minute I was asleep.
I'm glad I wasn't doing it in real-time!
Lucky man ! So you don't have a whole population of parasits at work, spending most of their time forwarding (and even designing for the brightest ones) unfunny powerpoint documents to their whole addressbook ?
;)
Didn't you figure out how to delete yet?
Not sure if this is what we're looking for but iirc Windows 2000 had the concept of alpha-blending.
I don't think it was actually used (unless you used some add-on software to set the alpha channel) but it was there nonetheless.
In fact, I don't even know it is prior to Apple's claim.
Content costs? Obviously you must be new around here ;)
It would certainly raise a lot of awareness if Slashdot went ahead and put up an entry-page or banner.
I know this won't happen (such action would set a precedence -- all petitioners would expect the limelight) for obvious reasons but it would sure be interesting if it did.
So far I've read a lot of ``only build from source if the packages don't suit.'' I agree with this entirely.
If, however, there is some major benefit to building from source (features, bugs, etc.) then you can still create a package of your compiled source. That way you still have the ease of maintenance.
> Time to move to the UK I reckon! :)
No, honestly. I wouldn't bother. It's not that good. Besides... how much spam comes from the UK anyway? It's all from (search for real figures) China, etc. This will probably have little/no effect on spam counts.
I was thinking ``wtf?'' but then I discovered pragraph three and all was revealed to me! ;)
So student don't really need computers at the dorms. In fact, they usually keep them from learning.
Well... what about the people that are involved in, say... rowing, sports, anything non-course specific? Do we ban them too? I mean, people with computers in their houses -- they probably detract from people doing house work (cleaning, cooking, sleeping); we should probably remove those too, right?
Having an A4 sheet detailing where to get the patch and removal tool (possibly mirrored locally) would be a good idea too.
Okay, so you give them the URL on the paper, right? Then what do they do? Call up the tech. support people and ask them to shout the patch down the 'phone? I can imagine it now: ``was that `one-one-oh', or `one-oh-oh'?''
Microsoft do something like this in the first place? I'm sure it would have alleviated some of the problems and prevented the necessitation (wow, does that make sense?) for ``removing'' windowsupdate.com.
You might quote legal implications on MS' behalf but I'm sure they make those EULAs for a reason... there'll be some ``get out of jail free card'' they could use there.
I'm wondering if there is a automated ports checker to verify which ports compile out of the box?
/usr/ports and does a ``make index''. The ports that this fails on are most likely those listed. So, it's not automated but pretty good just the same.
I can't answer this fully but I know that Kris Kennaway posts ``INDEX build failed'' messages to the freebsd-ports mailing list quite frequently. From what I understand he goes to
So they are going to intergrate a Hotmail mail box into the next version of windows.
;) over the security: if it's fully integrated they can do patching in a slightly different way. Also, any arguments about ``webmail'' being slow are made redundant... if they go the right way about it*.
If this truly is the case I see this as a Good Thing(TM). This way Microsoft have a lot more control (okay, I guess that's a downside
* -- specifically I'd expect some kind of built-in webmail client that works in a way very much similar to IMAP. In fact, the old OE did support HTTP mail (Hotmail). This is the kind of integrated support I would really like to see.