Most people don't see issue when working with electronics because of built in ESD protection. I'm an IO designer and we go to extreme lengths to make add ESD protection to our devices. That said, this isn't that exact of a science.
If your setting up a production line that will move a lot of material it only makes sense to take precautions.
Interesting idea. The start of this effort actually gets back to software. Designing hardware takes some expensive software. There is the gEDA project but it is really just getting started. If enough of the tools were freely available then maybe you would see something like this.
Without IP capitalism wouldn't work in a modern economy. Many items which cost 100's of millions to develop can easily be copied. Modern drugs are a great example. If you don't allow a company to recoup R&D costs nothing will be developed.
I imagine that Starbucks is trying to keep identical settings for its entire network. This is very understandable as many of the people using their service won't be technically literate. The idea is you can just sit down and any connected Starbucks and start surfing with your laptop.
I'm not saying it is right to do since the other group was there first but their policy does make sense.
At least where I work the sys admins have plenty of appreciation...from themselves. They seem to forget that the engineers are making the products that keep them employeed. Yes they serve a vital function but instead of putting roadblock after roadblock up they should think about how they can help get products out the door.
It took me months just to get the sys admins to let me put a Linux box on the network even though simulations on the box where 2-4 times faster than a Sun...geeesh.
Starbuck's place Starbucks rule's. If you don't like it leave.
They are trying to run a business and I imagine they set up just such a system to ensure consistency between various stores and to set the environment they want.
I popular webpages don't render properly then Mozilla will not gain market share. Its that simple. Mozilla can take the high ground and remain a niche program or follow MS lead and have a chance to make a difference.
I also do chip design and we have been using Xeon with Linux for many applications. For cell level hspice and block level synthesis you can't beat the speed of the PCs.
For top level jobs like extraction we need the ram.
I recently did a comparison on some EDA tools (spice and the like). A Blade 1000 was 36% slower than a 1.7Gz Intel Xeon. The people saying "duh, look at the speed Ghz" aren't looking at the right data.
The Xeon machine was well under 1/10th the cost of the Blade 1000.
I wish people would open their eyes and see what will happen if Blizzard loses this. It will change their business model. I would not be a bit surprised to see them go to more of a server side architecture (with possible fees).
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I'm an engineer and have the same frustrations but I think most of the bitching I hear is from technocrats with who refuse to understand the business world.
If you miss a market window you might as well not have a product at all. Design and development of interesting products is a very hard thing to schedule. Usually by the time you know what the project really entails your half way through it. If after spending months of work you come out and try to say that developement will take twice as long as planned what the management is rightfully hearing is "We've just wasted x dollars for a product that will be useless".
Our organization is just starting to replace our Sun's with Linux boxes. Contrary to what this article says DELL still ships XEON workstations with Linux pre-installed. This is the route we are taking.
One thing though, we ARE NOT USING LINUX ON THE DESKTOP. From our testing they make great compute farm boxes but aren't ready for the desktop.
Lets say I spend a ton of money to investigate a product for my company. This leads me to release the coolest widget ever. I HAVE to price this in such a way to recoup the money I spent in R&D.
Now, company B comes along and decides my widget is pretty nice. They duplicate it exactly but sell it for a much lower price because they don't have any R&D tied up.
I'm now out of business.
This is your world. Nobody develops anything because they can't get any return on it. My thoughts and ideas are exactly what I should be paid for. The formula for a drug is the valuable part, not the work used to manufacture it.
The world of Star Trek: TNG is a fantasy. Wake up.
Imagine a world in which there is no personal incentive. Drug companies don't exist as we know them so the major breakthroughs we have had in the last 20 years never happened. Now every county is a "3rd" world country. Everyone is getting killed by these diseases.
Your argument really falls flat when you start talking about freeing ideas. PATENTS WERE FORMED SO THAT INFORMATION IS SHARED! In exchange for publising your works the government gives you exclusive rights for 20 years. If patents didn't exist the information would stay within a company. People in the third world HAVE acccess to this information because of patents, they just can't market products based on them.
I agree that patents law needs to be changed. right now it is ridiculous. Patents should be reserved for truely unique ideas not the crap that gets through today.
I'll probably get some heat off this sd but in my experience its easier to move towards CS with a different degree than the other way around. I know of a number of people with various engineering degrees now doing CS for a living. I don't know of anyone with a CS degree doing mechanical or electrical engineering though.
I had much the same problem deciding a major while in college. I ended up going for an ECE (Computer Engineering) degree. Its really a mix of CS and EE which worked great for me.
This idea has been talked about a lot but the fact is an optical interface on Si is still a few years off. When they do become available they I'm sure they will cost many $$$$.
There have been plenty of ground troops on the "American" side that have died. The Northern Alliance were our ground troops in this conflict. In that context the above assertions are a bit silly.
There is no doubt that we have some nice technology but much of it was actually proven in Desert Storm.
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Most people don't see issue when working with electronics because of built in ESD protection. I'm an IO designer and we go to extreme lengths to make add ESD protection to our devices. That said, this isn't that exact of a science.
If your setting up a production line that will move a lot of material it only makes sense to take precautions.
Interesting idea. The start of this effort actually gets back to software. Designing hardware takes some expensive software. There is the gEDA project but it is really just getting started. If enough of the tools were freely available then maybe you would see something like this.
Without IP capitalism wouldn't work in a modern economy. Many items which cost 100's of millions to develop can easily be copied. Modern drugs are a great example. If you don't allow a company to recoup R&D costs nothing will be developed.
I imagine that Starbucks is trying to keep identical settings for its entire network. This is very understandable as many of the people using their service won't be technically literate. The idea is you can just sit down and any connected Starbucks and start surfing with your laptop.
I'm not saying it is right to do since the other group was there first but their policy does make sense.
Isn't that supposed to be three settings :)
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At least where I work the sys admins have plenty of appreciation...from themselves. They seem to forget that the engineers are making the products that keep them employeed. Yes they serve a vital function but instead of putting roadblock after roadblock up they should think about how they can help get products out the door.
It took me months just to get the sys admins to let me put a Linux box on the network even though simulations on the box where 2-4 times faster than a Sun...geeesh.
Starbuck's place Starbucks rule's. If you don't like it leave.
They are trying to run a business and I imagine they set up just such a system to ensure consistency between various stores and to set the environment they want.
If even one of these runners make a decent showing Nike's returns will easily outweight the INVESTMENT.
Some diseases don't need the money. Just a culture willing the educate the masses.
Latex. What a great material.
Well at least we don't get so worked up about a sport than the fans get crushed in stadiums ...
I popular webpages don't render properly then Mozilla will not gain market share. Its that simple. Mozilla can take the high ground and remain a niche program or follow MS lead and have a chance to make a difference.
I hate mandatory password changes!
If I'm required to change every month I will be writing and recording the password. That is a vulnerability.
Yep, you have to have the right tool for the job.
I also do chip design and we have been using Xeon with Linux for many applications. For cell level hspice and block level synthesis you can't beat the speed of the PCs.
For top level jobs like extraction we need the ram.
Ok, who is the Einstein you marked my post as redundant. There isn't a post with this info listed above.
Mayhaps we have some Sun employees doing the moderation today....lol.
I recently did a comparison on some EDA tools (spice and the like). A Blade 1000 was 36% slower than a 1.7Gz Intel Xeon. The people saying "duh, look at the speed Ghz" aren't looking at the right data.
The Xeon machine was well under 1/10th the cost of the Blade 1000.
Quake and bnet are different items.
I wish people would open their eyes and see what will happen if Blizzard loses this. It will change their business model. I would not be a bit surprised to see them go to more of a server side architecture (with possible fees).
I'm an engineer and have the same frustrations but I think most of the bitching I hear is from technocrats with who refuse to understand the business world.
If you miss a market window you might as well not have a product at all. Design and development of interesting products is a very hard thing to schedule. Usually by the time you know what the project really entails your half way through it. If after spending months of work you come out and try to say that developement will take twice as long as planned what the management is rightfully hearing is "We've just wasted x dollars for a product that will be useless".
Managing technical projects is not easy.
Our organization is just starting to replace our Sun's with Linux boxes. Contrary to what this article says DELL still ships XEON workstations with Linux pre-installed. This is the route we are taking.
One thing though, we ARE NOT USING LINUX ON THE DESKTOP. From our testing they make great compute farm boxes but aren't ready for the desktop.
I can't believe you think this will work.
Lets say I spend a ton of money to investigate a product for my company. This leads me to release the coolest widget ever. I HAVE to price this in such a way to recoup the money I spent in R&D.
Now, company B comes along and decides my widget is pretty nice. They duplicate it exactly but sell it for a much lower price because they don't have any R&D tied up.
I'm now out of business.
This is your world. Nobody develops anything because they can't get any return on it. My thoughts and ideas are exactly what I should be paid for. The formula for a drug is the valuable part, not the work used to manufacture it.
The world of Star Trek: TNG is a fantasy. Wake up.
Imagine a world in which there is no personal incentive. Drug companies don't exist as we know them so the major breakthroughs we have had in the last 20 years never happened. Now every county is a "3rd" world country. Everyone is getting killed by these diseases.
Your argument really falls flat when you start talking about freeing ideas. PATENTS WERE FORMED SO THAT INFORMATION IS SHARED! In exchange for publising your works the government gives you exclusive rights for 20 years. If patents didn't exist the information would stay within a company. People in the third world HAVE acccess to this information because of patents, they just can't market products based on them.
I agree that patents law needs to be changed. right now it is ridiculous. Patents should be reserved for truely unique ideas not the crap that gets through today.
It may not be open source but it is free.
There is a big difference.
Amen!
Cord management on the PC and my audio set up is nightmare. Lets see some bluetooth implementations or something.
I'll probably get some heat off this sd but in my experience its easier to move towards CS with a different degree than the other way around. I know of a number of people with various engineering degrees now doing CS for a living. I don't know of anyone with a CS degree doing mechanical or electrical engineering though.
I had much the same problem deciding a major while in college. I ended up going for an ECE (Computer Engineering) degree. Its really a mix of CS and EE which worked great for me.
Sounds like someone needs a reality check.
This idea has been talked about a lot but the fact is an optical interface on Si is still a few years off. When they do become available they I'm sure they will cost many $$$$.
There have been plenty of ground troops on the "American" side that have died. The Northern Alliance were our ground troops in this conflict. In that context the above assertions are a bit silly.
There is no doubt that we have some nice technology but much of it was actually proven in Desert Storm.