How do you know what Blizzard did and didn't do? You're an idiot. Some times I am ashamed to read Slashdot. You guys can be worse than mad moms in minivans. I get the feeling that you all feel like you're so special that the fate of the world should lie in your hands. That thought scares the shit out of me.
The problem is that it isn't easy to add a sarcastic overtone to plain text post (compared to just speaking out loud).
Another thing. Finding a joke funny or not is an opinion and changes from person to person. Yes the defining characteristic of a joke is that it is funny, but funny to who? Some times jokes are only funny to the person who tells them, or maybe a small group of people.
Well using your logic you shouldn't be able to flame the moderators just because you don't agree with how they moderate. Besides most every post on this site is an opinion so how are people suppose to moderate in that case? As far as I can tell nobody will ever be happy with moderation no matter how perfect it is.
How the hell do you get a job if you don't have a car? How do you go to the store to BUY your food if you don't have one? Where I come from the store isn't a walk down the road and I don't work on a farm.
Losing a car isn't a big deal? Yeah right. I don't think you know what you are talking about. It's not exactly a good thing to lose your car because you can't afford to pay your bills. It's not good for your credit.
I didn't say you should go buy a NEW car after you leave your job did I? Most people already have a car before that.
I'm actually happy where I am at now, but not everybody is so lucky.
I think everybody should have a job that they enjoy doing. If you hate your job then there is no reason to work there because it will make your life miserable.
Although I don't agree that one should quit or burn bridges over it. It's better to find the job you want while you are employed than to just quit and live off next to nothing until the next job comes along.
I also don't think a person should quit just because they don't get there way or because they are not 100% happy 100% of the time. Even the best jobs in the world are not perfect all of the time.
There are some things worth standing up over (I always try to voice my opinions in my job) or even quitting over, but it would have to be something I feel VERY strongly about in order to make me quit on the spot over it.
I have seen people quit over some pretty stupid things, and in the end even they admit that it was not worth quitting over. They were just being hot headed.
I guess you say that now, but my guess is that you have never left your job and gone 6 to 8 months or more on a $300/week unemployment check until you are no longer able to pay most of your bills with the money you have saved and your credit goes bad and you almost lose your car. That's the point when you lower your standards and end up going to work at a job that is worse than the one you left in the first place.
You think it will never happen but it can and it will. I've seen it happen to a lot of really good people.
I'd say being able to pay the bills is pretty damn important.
Yeah yeah. Whatever. I wish the world was perfect too.
Ever since the NES I have always played games with friends around.. Even if it means taking turns.. I never really did get into playing games by my self.. It's like getting drunk alone (to me).. It's fun, but not THAT fun;)
I think any game on a GOOD PC will look better than damn near any console. The X-Box might be faster than MY PC, but it isn't faster than the latest and greatest pc, and it can't do high res as easy (Most TV's aren't designed for it)
Thank god. I was expecting to get flamed. Awesome post.
Most of this was just my opinion. I think there are a lot of good games on the PS2, just nothing that I am personally interested in. The games you listed are all single player games that are slower paced (well most of them) and I have rented all of those games and could only get into a few of them. Most of them are pretty to look at, but get boring really quick. (Like MGS2 in my opinion)
One game I really want to get though is FFX just because me and my bro are FF freaks, but personally I would love to see a game like Secret of Mana where we could play with 2-4 people or so:) I loved that game.
As for DVD playback. Yes there is an issue with the motor burning out. There is 2 gamestops near my house and they have had to return a LOT of PS2's to get the motor replaced. I'm not sure if the newer PS2 is effected though (yes, there is a new revision of the PS2 out)
As for games looking better on the other systems.. Go play Max Payne.. SSX never looked *that* great to start with. I didn't say PS2 couldn't play nice looking games. Maybe the games aren't as good because it is harder to develop for?
Like somebody else said. Being harder to develop for doesn't exactly mean that it is better in any way and there probably isn't much you could do by "tweaking" the PS2 that you couldn't do on other systems.
I agree 100% with your comment about the X-Box and PC games, but I think that it is the 3rd party developers choice to write the games like that. You can make the game look like whatever the heck you want. The games don't HAVE to look exactly like games on the PC. It's just that all of these people are on this kick of having the latest and greatest graphics instead of the best game play. That drives me insane.
You're right. I am into multiplayer games. I think *most* people are. Take your fave games and add 3 of your friends and tell me you won't have more fun. I would. That's why games like Super Smash bros, Mario Kart, Quake3, etc are all some of the most popular games. If it wasn't for Halo's AWESOME co-op and multiplayer options I probably would not play the game 1/4th as much as I do.
I think Microsoft will win the online multiplayer portion of this battle by a long shot. They have the most experience in this area. It will be very easy to get online with the X-Box and I think Microsoft will have the best interface to use while online also. Plus you will probably be able to surf and download stuff (WebTV??), etc..
First of all how would it compete in SIZE? It's going to be big enough to fit a cd in it (which is already bigger than a freakin GBA.
How will it compete in terms of battery life? Extra large battery? Hmm more clunkyness.
Will the games on the PS1 be more fun that the GBA? ehhh. It depends on who you ask, but me personally? I think the GBA would be more fun. It doesn't have your same old boring typical BS 3D style games that we are all tired of. Plus I've already played my PS1 games to death why would I want to play them some more?
I'm sure I left a bunch of other stuff out too.
Like the fact that the GBA has FAR more games than any other system EVER (Don't forget. You can play GB games on it) And the fact that more people already own a GB and GBA than a PS1.
Is that the *only* complaint you have seen about the PS2?
I can think of a lot of things I don't like about it.
The lack of 4 controller ports..
The lack of any really fun multiplayer games (aside from GT3, some fighting games and sports games). Almost no 4 player games.
The fact that it has been out for so long yet it hardly has more fun games than the newer systems. (Yes there are a lot of *decent* games, but not a whole lot of really good ones)
When a game is released for multiple systems it always looks the WORST on the PS2 or has the least amount of features. (Max Payne, Tony Hawk, etc)
If you watch too many dvd movies or play too many music cd's your motor will burn out and you have to take it in to get it fixed. (Not sure if that was fixed in the newer versions or not)
The fact that it is harder to develop for means that developers have a hard time taking full advantage of the system, AND makes them want to write their games for OTHER systems instead. Almost like what happened with the N64 (although there were other things like space issues with that system)
Should I go on?
The only reason I even keep mine around is because I love GT3 and a few of the shooting games (Time Crisis) that I have.. Oh and GTA3, but I'm sure the X-Box version will be better.
BTW if you are curious.. I DO have all 3 systems and the one me and my friends play the LEAST is the PS2.
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You can't tell me Halo is easy to control. It's not. It takes a good hour or two to get decent at it and I didn't get really good until after I had nearly beat the game off..
Now that I am good at the controls I think they are bad ass. (I hated them at first)
Some times things have to be setup complex in order to give you more control over the game once you get use to them.
The fact that Nintendo markets to a younger group of people is possibly why it could take the game market..
You think places like Mc Donalds would exist if it wasn't for kids? Nope. Sure adults have the money, but kids control the adults. Shit when I was a kid I could get my parents to buy me a new game or two every time we went out. I had hundreds of old NES games.
You also gotta remember. Sony and MS are fighting for the same group of users while nintendo has pretty much no competition..
Also, Nintendo doesn't ONLY shoot for the younger market.. Some of their better games are made for adults or older kids..
And you think DVD playback is such a big deal? Why? It's not like it's GOOD on the Sony or anything.. Most people want a REAL dvd player.. The ones that come with a remote and stuff? Plus as most linux biggots would say they like having a system that is good at doing ONE thing which is playing games.. You can have a game console that plays DVDs or a DVD player that plays games, but neither of them will do their secondary functions well:-\ -----------------------
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True. But it's hard for something like that to not get misused.. It still turns in to a lable eventually:) That is why I am faily defensive about it.. I guess I have just had 1 too many religious discussions. -----------------------
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I mean.. Why would they go to church? hehe.. They would sit around and talk about..... well.. nothing?:)
But I mean. It's still a set of beliefs. They still have rules around them that I might or might not agree with. I just don't like the idea of being grouped in with other people just because we might have one or two of the same ideas. It makes me feel like cattle with one person telling me how to think or something. (not that they do that or anything, but I'm not going to risk it lol).. When somebody asks me if I am agnostic I say "No. I'm nothing. I believe what ever is in my head. Don't worry your little self about it. Now fuck off":) -----------------------
Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg
agnostic is still a religion. if somebody says they are not a part of any religion that means *any* religion. (at least in my case).
Sorry I just hate it when I say I'm not religious or don't believe in god and I am instantly labled as agnostic or atheist. I think all religions suck period:) -----------------------
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I'm trying to figure out what YOUR point is really...
Why should this person(s) have to explain them self? Huh? So *you* will understand his motives?
As if you are somebody special and we should all bow down and explain our projects to you before we start them or something? Maybe he doesn't care.
*Maybe* he just doesn't *want* to spend his time making the Linux Kernel better (like everybody wants him to do, instead)... THAT is a good enough reason..
People do this kinda stuff all the time. It's nothing new. Maybe he just felt like making his own little thing. Maybe he doesn't want to improve an existing thing. Soooooooooooooo WHAT... Why should he have to explain him self?
Why are there so many distros of Linux? Why can't we all just work on Red hat and make it better? Why do we need Debian? Why are there so many text editors? Isn't VI good enough? Why can't we all just improve that one and get rid of emacs?
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I'm sure he's not just talking about the ISP, but the church in general.
Open your mind.
I'm sure the church tries to pull the same kind of evil crap. They are just sneakier about it, and perhaps.. Less harsh. They don't put people to death, any more, I suppose. -----------------------
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like skins.. Doesn't mean everybody doesn't.. Obviously a LOT of people enjoy them.
I bet there are more people who want skins then people who don't want them..
Besides.. It's not like anybody FORCES you to skin your freakin app so calm down!!!
The only reason you should even CARE is because it might slow the development of an app down, or make it a LITTLE slower.. BIG DEAL.. Live with it!
Besides.. Some skins make the UI a hell of a lot better then the base UI...
And let me ask you this.. Do you use the base Winamp or XMMS skins? I bet the world that you don't!!!!!! -----------------------
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That we should start making our console's LESS powerfull?
That's like saying "Why buy a Porsche when my Geo Metro is fast enough"
Fast enough for what?
If you don't want a faster car then don't buy one, but don't try to take away my ability to do so.
Besides..More power is always welcome.
I think the main complaint about PS2 right now is that it can't even take advantage of all it's power. Right?
And just because the current few games out for it might not be all that great doesn't mean the future games for it won't be. -----------------------
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This isn't going to stop people from listening to mp3's on the computer any way right? I mean.. All you have to do is save an old copy of mpg123 or winamp and you can listen to all of the mp3's you want..... I would think....
What are they going to do? Force an open source mp3 player to check from their water marks?? haha..
I guess the only thing they can really do is force the companies making portable mp3 players to use this technology.. That kinda sucks, but oh well.. I personally don't use them anyway. I'll just burn them to a cd instead.. -----------------------
Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg
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How do you know what Blizzard did and didn't do? You're an idiot. Some times I am ashamed to read Slashdot. You guys can be worse than mad moms in minivans. I get the feeling that you all feel like you're so special that the fate of the world should lie in your hands. That thought scares the shit out of me.
I think it's called being sarcastic.
The problem is that it isn't easy to add a sarcastic overtone to plain text post (compared to just speaking out loud).
Another thing. Finding a joke funny or not is an opinion and changes from person to person. Yes the defining characteristic of a joke is that it is funny, but funny to who? Some times jokes are only funny to the person who tells them, or maybe a small group of people.
Well using your logic you shouldn't be able to flame the moderators just because you don't agree with how they moderate. Besides most every post on this site is an opinion so how are people suppose to moderate in that case? As far as I can tell nobody will ever be happy with moderation no matter how perfect it is.
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What are you talking about??!!!?!
You don't think having a car is important?
How the hell do you get a job if you don't have a car? How do you go to the store to BUY your food if you don't have one? Where I come from the store isn't a walk down the road and I don't work on a farm.
Losing a car isn't a big deal? Yeah right. I don't think you know what you are talking about. It's not exactly a good thing to lose your car because you can't afford to pay your bills. It's not good for your credit.
I didn't say you should go buy a NEW car after you leave your job did I? Most people already have a car before that.
I'm actually happy where I am at now, but not everybody is so lucky.
I think everybody should have a job that they enjoy doing. If you hate your job then there is no reason to work there because it will make your life miserable.
Although I don't agree that one should quit or burn bridges over it. It's better to find the job you want while you are employed than to just quit and live off next to nothing until the next job comes along.
I also don't think a person should quit just because they don't get there way or because they are not 100% happy 100% of the time. Even the best jobs in the world are not perfect all of the time.
There are some things worth standing up over (I always try to voice my opinions in my job) or even quitting over, but it would have to be something I feel VERY strongly about in order to make me quit on the spot over it.
I have seen people quit over some pretty stupid things, and in the end even they admit that it was not worth quitting over. They were just being hot headed.
I guess you say that now, but my guess is that you have never left your job and gone 6 to 8 months or more on a $300/week unemployment check until you are no longer able to pay most of your bills with the money you have saved and your credit goes bad and you almost lose your car. That's the point when you lower your standards and end up going to work at a job that is worse than the one you left in the first place.
You think it will never happen but it can and it will. I've seen it happen to a lot of really good people.
I'd say being able to pay the bills is pretty damn important.
Yeah yeah. Whatever. I wish the world was perfect too.
Ever since the NES I have always played games with friends around.. Even if it means taking turns.. I never really did get into playing games by my self.. It's like getting drunk alone (to me).. It's fun, but not THAT fun ;)
I think any game on a GOOD PC will look better than damn near any console. The X-Box might be faster than MY PC, but it isn't faster than the latest and greatest pc, and it can't do high res as easy (Most TV's aren't designed for it)
Thank god. I was expecting to get flamed. Awesome post.
:) I loved that game.
Most of this was just my opinion. I think there are a lot of good games on the PS2, just nothing that I am personally interested in. The games you listed are all single player games that are slower paced (well most of them) and I have rented all of those games and could only get into a few of them. Most of them are pretty to look at, but get boring really quick. (Like MGS2 in my opinion)
One game I really want to get though is FFX just because me and my bro are FF freaks, but personally I would love to see a game like Secret of Mana where we could play with 2-4 people or so
As for DVD playback. Yes there is an issue with the motor burning out. There is 2 gamestops near my house and they have had to return a LOT of PS2's to get the motor replaced. I'm not sure if the newer PS2 is effected though (yes, there is a new revision of the PS2 out)
As for games looking better on the other systems.. Go play Max Payne.. SSX never looked *that* great to start with. I didn't say PS2 couldn't play nice looking games. Maybe the games aren't as good because it is harder to develop for?
Like somebody else said. Being harder to develop for doesn't exactly mean that it is better in any way and there probably isn't much you could do by "tweaking" the PS2 that you couldn't do on other systems.
I agree 100% with your comment about the X-Box and PC games, but I think that it is the 3rd party developers choice to write the games like that. You can make the game look like whatever the heck you want. The games don't HAVE to look exactly like games on the PC. It's just that all of these people are on this kick of having the latest and greatest graphics instead of the best game play. That drives me insane.
You're right. I am into multiplayer games. I think *most* people are. Take your fave games and add 3 of your friends and tell me you won't have more fun. I would. That's why games like Super Smash bros, Mario Kart, Quake3, etc are all some of the most popular games. If it wasn't for Halo's AWESOME co-op and multiplayer options I probably would not play the game 1/4th as much as I do.
I think Microsoft will win the online multiplayer portion of this battle by a long shot. They have the most experience in this area. It will be very easy to get online with the X-Box and I think Microsoft will have the best interface to use while online also. Plus you will probably be able to surf and download stuff (WebTV??), etc..
There is a bit more to it than that.
First of all how would it compete in SIZE? It's going to be big enough to fit a cd in it (which is already bigger than a freakin GBA.
How will it compete in terms of battery life? Extra large battery? Hmm more clunkyness.
Will the games on the PS1 be more fun that the GBA? ehhh. It depends on who you ask, but me personally? I think the GBA would be more fun. It doesn't have your same old boring typical BS 3D style games that we are all tired of. Plus I've already played my PS1 games to death why would I want to play them some more?
I'm sure I left a bunch of other stuff out too.
Like the fact that the GBA has FAR more games than any other system EVER (Don't forget. You can play GB games on it) And the fact that more people already own a GB and GBA than a PS1.
I think I'll stick to the GBA, thank you.
Is that the *only* complaint you have seen about the PS2?
I can think of a lot of things I don't like about it.
The lack of 4 controller ports..
The lack of any really fun multiplayer games (aside from GT3, some fighting games and sports games). Almost no 4 player games.
The fact that it has been out for so long yet it hardly has more fun games than the newer systems. (Yes there are a lot of *decent* games, but not a whole lot of really good ones)
When a game is released for multiple systems it always looks the WORST on the PS2 or has the least amount of features. (Max Payne, Tony Hawk, etc)
If you watch too many dvd movies or play too many music cd's your motor will burn out and you have to take it in to get it fixed. (Not sure if that was fixed in the newer versions or not)
The fact that it is harder to develop for means that developers have a hard time taking full advantage of the system, AND makes them want to write their games for OTHER systems instead. Almost like what happened with the N64 (although there were other things like space issues with that system)
Should I go on?
The only reason I even keep mine around is because I love GT3 and a few of the shooting games (Time Crisis) that I have.. Oh and GTA3, but I'm sure the X-Box version will be better.
BTW if you are curious.. I DO have all 3 systems and the one me and my friends play the LEAST is the PS2.
You can't tell me Halo is easy to control. It's not. It takes a good hour or two to get decent at it and I didn't get really good until after I had nearly beat the game off..
Now that I am good at the controls I think they are bad ass. (I hated them at first)
Some times things have to be setup complex in order to give you more control over the game once you get use to them.
The fact that Nintendo markets to a younger group of people is possibly why it could take the game market.. You think places like Mc Donalds would exist if it wasn't for kids? Nope. Sure adults have the money, but kids control the adults. Shit when I was a kid I could get my parents to buy me a new game or two every time we went out. I had hundreds of old NES games. You also gotta remember. Sony and MS are fighting for the same group of users while nintendo has pretty much no competition.. Also, Nintendo doesn't ONLY shoot for the younger market.. Some of their better games are made for adults or older kids.. And you think DVD playback is such a big deal? Why? It's not like it's GOOD on the Sony or anything.. Most people want a REAL dvd player.. The ones that come with a remote and stuff? Plus as most linux biggots would say they like having a system that is good at doing ONE thing which is playing games.. You can have a game console that plays DVDs or a DVD player that plays games, but neither of them will do their secondary functions well :-\
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Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg
The Gameboy made it this far with the help of good games, not cool technology. Go figure.
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Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg
Please wait until your brain fully develops before speaking out loud.
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Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg
That's great. Where did you learn to be a comedian, Franks comedy school for the mentally challenged?
BTW I think you got the accent mixed up with some other state.
Let me guess. You learned everything you know from watching TV?
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Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg
True. But it's hard for something like that to not get misused.. It still turns in to a lable eventually :) That is why I am faily defensive about it.. I guess I have just had 1 too many religious discussions.
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Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg
Well you are kinda right.
:)
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I mean.. Why would they go to church? hehe.. They would sit around and talk about..... well.. nothing?
But I mean. It's still a set of beliefs. They still have rules around them that I might or might not agree with. I just don't like the idea of being grouped in with other people just because we might have one or two of the same ideas. It makes me feel like cattle with one person telling me how to think or something. (not that they do that or anything, but I'm not going to risk it lol).. When somebody asks me if I am agnostic I say "No. I'm nothing. I believe what ever is in my head. Don't worry your little self about it. Now fuck off"
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Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg
agnostic is still a religion. if somebody says they are not a part of any religion that means *any* religion. (at least in my case).
:)
Sorry I just hate it when I say I'm not religious or don't believe in god and I am instantly labled as agnostic or atheist. I think all religions suck period
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Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg
I'm trying to figure out what YOUR point is really...
Why should this person(s) have to explain them self? Huh? So *you* will understand his motives?
As if you are somebody special and we should all bow down and explain our projects to you before we start them or something? Maybe he doesn't care.
*Maybe* he just doesn't *want* to spend his time making the Linux Kernel better (like everybody wants him to do, instead)... THAT is a good enough reason..
People do this kinda stuff all the time. It's nothing new. Maybe he just felt like making his own little thing. Maybe he doesn't want to improve an existing thing. Soooooooooooooo WHAT... Why should he have to explain him self?
Why are there so many distros of Linux? Why can't we all just work on Red hat and make it better? Why do we need Debian? Why are there so many text editors? Isn't VI good enough? Why can't we all just improve that one and get rid of emacs?
Bah. Get a life. You people whine over the stupidest things.
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Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg
I'm sure he's not just talking about the ISP, but the church in general.
Open your mind.
I'm sure the church tries to pull the same kind of evil crap. They are just sneakier about it, and perhaps.. Less harsh. They don't put people to death, any more, I suppose.
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Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg
like skins.. Doesn't mean everybody doesn't.. Obviously a LOT of people enjoy them.
I bet there are more people who want skins then people who don't want them..
Besides.. It's not like anybody FORCES you to skin your freakin app so calm down!!!
The only reason you should even CARE is because it might slow the development of an app down, or make it a LITTLE slower.. BIG DEAL.. Live with it!
Besides.. Some skins make the UI a hell of a lot better then the base UI...
And let me ask you this.. Do you use the base Winamp or XMMS skins? I bet the world that you don't!!!!!!
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Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg
What are you trying to say?
That we should start making our console's LESS powerfull?
That's like saying "Why buy a Porsche when my Geo Metro is fast enough"
Fast enough for what?
If you don't want a faster car then don't buy one, but don't try to take away my ability to do so.
Besides..More power is always welcome.
I think the main complaint about PS2 right now is that it can't even take advantage of all it's power. Right?
And just because the current few games out for it might not be all that great doesn't mean the future games for it won't be.
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Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg
How annoying.
Netscapes page won't let you install their themes on Mozilla... That sucks! They look nice too!
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Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg
This isn't going to stop people from listening to mp3's on the computer any way right? I mean.. All you have to do is save an old copy of mpg123 or winamp and you can listen to all of the mp3's you want..... I would think....
What are they going to do? Force an open source mp3 player to check from their water marks?? haha..
I guess the only thing they can really do is force the companies making portable mp3 players to use this technology.. That kinda sucks, but oh well.. I personally don't use them anyway. I'll just burn them to a cd instead..
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Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg