apt-get could just as easily be made to work with a set of.rpms, no?
yep. it's been done here. i've used it for a while, and it works really well. it's espeically useful for someone coming from an rpm backgorund.
i've also used debian, and (once many years back) slackware. the deb/rpm thing is getting just as bad as the vim/emacs thing. while i can see the merits of a vi vs emacs debate, i would have to agree with you. the packages are more or less glorified zip files, and it doesn't really matter how the metadata is stored.
i'm not familar with ports, but i understand it's very nice.
yeah this is how i read it too. it seems that microsoft could only be fined for nothing if they sold the gpl'ed software for nothing. plus i would think that the _fine_ they are talking about is the per sale fine or rather the fine applied to the number of cd's a pirate has at the time the raid is made. i would think there would be other fines also.
so if you show up there i'm sure they would be happy to chop off the shipping portion of the cost. then you just have to pay for the handling.
$5 for a cd delivered to my home is a great price in my mind. i actually found one on their site i was going to buy, but the form seemed to be broken-i'll check back later. too bad they dont have any ska.
and it pushed me to two forms. the first was my name address etc. the second had shipping options and a payment type selection both in pulldown boxes. the first box was $4 whatever but the pulldown box for payment type was empty. i tried pressing continue, but it pushed me to a formless page. it appears that the page is broken. i'll email them, but i was wondering if there was anyone else with similar expirences?
i would say it is a little different. i dont believe artists have to use fightclout exclusively. so just because they sell them on fightcloud they can also sell them elsewhere. fightcloud provides alot of the technical services associated with selling stuff on the web. this way an artist can point people to fightcloud when they ask about more info on buying their stuff at shows.
the most important difference, i believe, is that the artists retain the rights to their works. with a normal label artists sign those over so they no longer own their creations.
i'm just as cynical as the next guy, but i think you're selling this one short.
However... how would you restrict such access without software the kids could screw around with?
i think you've hit the nail on the head here. there isn't any legislation or software that can replace good parenting. i'm sure the legislators and software manufacturers will continue to try, but they will also continue to fail. it's sad really.
i wasnt trying to get you more karma. i dont think it is really that important. i just found your reply to be useful to those less informed who might actually believe the parent. if they were browsing using threads like myself they might not have read it.
once again i wasnt trying to stroke your karma or anything:)
i believe the $100 per machine was referring to the cost of windows. ie how can you say using linux saves 1/2 the cost of the machine when the machines would cost $800 and the os (windows) would only be $100 of that.
while i agree with your current economic assessment this was not really the case 1.5 to 2 years ago. the current state is a result of administrative choices over the last 5 or 6 years. hopefully the bad economy will result in a more cost efficent solution for schools in the end.
my point is that there have been several applications for nanotech developed in research labs across the globe. i've personally attended seminars where people have demonstrated their use. a simple search for 'nanotube applications' on google will give you several applications. we are now at the point where research into mass production is what is needed and not more applications.
many millions of dollars have already been invested by my government (us via nsf and doe), and probably by other organizations.
this is exactly what i was thinking. to the best of my knowlege, there is no way to mass produce nanotubes. the possibilities associated with nanotech are quite apparent. the organization which develops the methods to manufacture nanostructures on a large scale stands to make a boatload. i really wish the resources would focus on this problem and not the applications to be had after the manufacturing challenge is met.
perhaps i'm wrong on this, but wouldnt using the desktop be rather resource intensive? i would think servers would not want to waste resources pushing out graphics if they wernt necessary. while i awknolege the possibility to do this, i dont think it would be the most benificial thing to do on a server. especially one that is so expensive.
this might be a silly question, but why would someone want a gui on a rack computer? it's not like you will be sitting in front of this thing. i would think it is the gui of your workstation with which you should be concerned.
then this might be possible. the fact is that while alot of the basic functionality of the unix commands remains the same, each unix vendor has their own switches and other happiness that makes porting associated applications very hard.
say sun has alot of scripts that use tar, awk, etc but these scripts use alot of the propritary extensions in sun_tar. the gnu equlivents wont just plug in where the old ones left off. this would require alot of testing that can become expensive.
Of course, considering how crucial C60's formation and structure is to carbon nanotubules research, one would think that all the companies making money off (or planning to) it would at least be generous enough to support its namesake. But thats neither here nor there.
you would think so, but very few companies are making money off nanotubules. while the demand is there, the inability to mass produce nanotubes has prevented any industry from taking advantage of their unique characteristics.
i spoke with someone a few weeks ago from the doe. they basically said the word 'nano' is more of a fad and the people in the funding agencies dont see much promise in the near future (10 years or so). in the last few years, people have been sneaking the 'n' prefix into grant titles to increase the chance of funding. since little industrial applicability has resulted, it appears funding is going to shift more into the biomedical arena.
yeah but in this case the folks at transgaming want library in question to be closed, where you are talking about the binary, linking to a library, being closed. lgpl and gpl stuff cannot link to closed binaries i believe. so the rest of wine cannot use the transgaming stuff unless they release it under a different license.
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does anyone have any info on when sun's distro is expected to ship?
apt-get could just as easily be made to work with a set of .rpms, no?
yep. it's been done here. i've used it for a while, and it works really well. it's espeically useful for someone coming from an rpm backgorund.
i've also used debian, and (once many years back) slackware. the deb/rpm thing is getting just as bad as the vim/emacs thing. while i can see the merits of a vi vs emacs debate, i would have to agree with you. the packages are more or less glorified zip files, and it doesn't really matter how the metadata is stored.
i'm not familar with ports, but i understand it's very nice.
yeah this is how i read it too. it seems that microsoft could only be fined for nothing if they sold the gpl'ed software for nothing. plus i would think that the _fine_ they are talking about is the per sale fine or rather the fine applied to the number of cd's a pirate has at the time the raid is made. i would think there would be other fines also.
no it wast the german version of gateway: Degateway
the one with decow. yep it was dell. bad dell, (smack, smack) now get back in the box bitch.
i hope you were joking. if not you are one of the first people to say that about that book. personally, i really liked it, but thats just me.
so if you show up there i'm sure they would be happy to chop off the shipping portion of the cost. then you just have to pay for the handling.
$5 for a cd delivered to my home is a great price in my mind. i actually found one on their site i was going to buy, but the form seemed to be broken-i'll check back later. too bad they dont have any ska.
and it pushed me to two forms. the first was my name address etc. the second had shipping options and a payment type selection both in pulldown boxes. the first box was $4 whatever but the pulldown box for payment type was empty. i tried pressing continue, but it pushed me to a formless page. it appears that the page is broken. i'll email them, but i was wondering if there was anyone else with similar expirences?
i would say it is a little different. i dont believe artists have to use fightclout exclusively. so just because they sell them on fightcloud they can also sell them elsewhere. fightcloud provides alot of the technical services associated with selling stuff on the web. this way an artist can point people to fightcloud when they ask about more info on buying their stuff at shows.
the most important difference, i believe, is that the artists retain the rights to their works. with a normal label artists sign those over so they no longer own their creations.
i'm just as cynical as the next guy, but i think you're selling this one short.
However... how would you restrict such access without software the kids could screw around with?
i think you've hit the nail on the head here. there isn't any legislation or software that can replace good parenting. i'm sure the legislators and software manufacturers will continue to try, but they will also continue to fail. it's sad really.
sorry.
:)
i wasnt trying to get you more karma. i dont think it is really that important. i just found your reply to be useful to those less informed who might actually believe the parent. if they were browsing using threads like myself they might not have read it.
once again i wasnt trying to stroke your karma or anything
i believe the $100 per machine was referring to the cost of windows. ie how can you say using linux saves 1/2 the cost of the machine when the machines would cost $800 and the os (windows) would only be $100 of that.
while i agree with your current economic assessment this was not really the case 1.5 to 2 years ago. the current state is a result of administrative choices over the last 5 or 6 years. hopefully the bad economy will result in a more cost efficent solution for schools in the end.
this is a very well written response to the fud produced by the parent post.
what does this mean? yeah i know i'm another ignoarant yank.
do you have any references to back this up? surely this is a joke. if it is your sarcasim is so thick i cannot see the punchline then i'm sorry.
for those who dont know any better. to the best of my knowlege the following are the reasons those commands got their name.
vi - got it's name from visual editor
chmod - change the mode of the file.
rm - remove a file
how is this hard to remember? how can n00bs bring a system to it's knees without the permissions to do so with `rm' command?
my point is that there have been several applications for nanotech developed in research labs across the globe. i've personally attended seminars where people have demonstrated their use. a simple search for 'nanotube applications' on google will give you several applications. we are now at the point where research into mass production is what is needed and not more applications.
many millions of dollars have already been invested by my government (us via nsf and doe), and probably by other organizations.
this is exactly what i was thinking. to the best of my knowlege, there is no way to mass produce nanotubes. the possibilities associated with nanotech are quite apparent. the organization which develops the methods to manufacture nanostructures on a large scale stands to make a boatload. i really wish the resources would focus on this problem and not the applications to be had after the manufacturing challenge is met.
perhaps i'm wrong on this, but wouldnt using the desktop be rather resource intensive? i would think servers would not want to waste resources pushing out graphics if they wernt necessary. while i awknolege the possibility to do this, i dont think it would be the most benificial thing to do on a server. especially one that is so expensive.
this might be a silly question, but why would someone want a gui on a rack computer? it's not like you will be sitting in front of this thing. i would think it is the gui of your workstation with which you should be concerned.
then this might be possible. the fact is that while alot of the basic functionality of the unix commands remains the same, each unix vendor has their own switches and other happiness that makes porting associated applications very hard.
say sun has alot of scripts that use tar, awk, etc but these scripts use alot of the propritary extensions in sun_tar. the gnu equlivents wont just plug in where the old ones left off. this would require alot of testing that can become expensive.
disclaimer:
i've never used aol
but i've seen alot of commercials where you here soemthing to the effect of:
for more info go to www.goatse.cx aol keyword 'goatsex'
if this is the case, im not sure i really feel sorry for this guy, i think any schmuck could have thought of this.
the beast of two backs
that was my favorite part of othello.
Of course, considering how crucial C60's formation and structure is to carbon nanotubules research, one would think that all the companies making money off (or planning to) it would at least be generous enough to support its namesake. But thats neither here nor there.
you would think so, but very few companies are making money off nanotubules. while the demand is there, the inability to mass produce nanotubes has prevented any industry from taking advantage of their unique characteristics.
i spoke with someone a few weeks ago from the doe. they basically said the word 'nano' is more of a fad and the people in the funding agencies dont see much promise in the near future (10 years or so). in the last few years, people have been sneaking the 'n' prefix into grant titles to increase the chance of funding. since little industrial applicability has resulted, it appears funding is going to shift more into the biomedical arena.
yeah but in this case the folks at transgaming want library in question to be closed, where you are talking about the binary, linking to a library, being closed. lgpl and gpl stuff cannot link to closed binaries i believe. so the rest of wine cannot use the transgaming stuff unless they release it under a different license.
i'm going to send the folks at codeweavers a letter requesting my money back for the crossover plugin.