i did not mean to suggest that selling software is evil. if i gave that impression then i apologize. ximian just recently began to sell sell their services, so i think they should have their chance at failure.
the current state of the economy is thinning up the ranks a bit in many areas, open source software companies are not excluded. business models derived from open source software are in heavy evolution by the very nature of their newness. this is bound to result in a fair number of failures.
people new to linux are more likely to purchase boxed versions of redhat and are also more likely to look into support. i dont believe companies are looking to them for all of their revenue. i believe the corporate market is a more practicle source of revenue. for example, look at the support contracts between redhat and ibm.
microsoft is evil in my opinion, but not because they sell software. i believe they are evil because they are monopolistic, and anticompetative. evidently there are alot of people who believe this. this is one of the many reasons people turn to opensource software.
when your business is so successful at stomping out the competition, that your main competitor has gained its place because it is available for free-this is a good indicator that you are a monopoly.
i've used both windows and unix (solaris, irix, linux, etc). for me the unix paradigm is prefered. granted i quite using windows over 2 years ago, after the fourth install of windows nt in the same day, died. i plugged in my roommates redhat 5.2 cd and never turned back.
i would be lying to say that i have never had problems with linux. the community that surrounds linux is one of it strongest points and weakest. the zealotry can be a big turnoff, but a wilingness to help new users is a big turnon.
if this zealotry has effected you negatively, then i am sorry and would encourage you to look past that at a community who are more than willing to help.
i think you proved your own point. ximian poduces software which they give away freely and make their money selling services-much like redhat does. by giving away software they can attain a large userbase, at the same time they can sell services to those that require it. this enables them to provide free software and make money.
when i was applying for grad school at pitt i had to interview with prospective advisors. aside from my research interests, i told the guy flat out
i will not work in a windows environment. (unix of some form though i had a preference for linux)
i would write in LaTeX
the day i walked through the door he gave me root and told me to admin the groups computers. i've been fairly happy ever sense. with respect to latex: if you are writing any thing of substance, meaning anything with alot of imbedded figures and several chapters, then LaTeX is the way to go. It's great for equations, but i've found that complicated documents really dont lend them selves well to word processors... unless you have 1/2 a gig of ram and dont want to run anything else while you write the document.
i've used up2date to update the kernel on redhat 7.2 and it didnt give me any trouble. i've also had a bad expirence when updating the kernel in redhat 6.2. it screwed up symlinks everywhere and nothing would compile.
i agree with you though-it shouldnt be an option if it doesnt work. especially if it is known not to work.
shit happens. redhat works sometimes, so does mandrake and so does debian. debian can be frustrating. everyone says 'just use apt-get install crackwhore' and it will work. i've found debian works great if you stick with stable. whenever i've used testing or unstable i invariably break apt in some way. which requires alot more effort that people imply with quick statements like that made above.
most computers come with two onboard ide controllers which each support two drives. so if they were using a standard motherboard, then yes 4 would be the max number of ide drives they could support. you could also purchase extra controller cards and get that number upto eleven fairly easily. they actually make ide raid cards. one word-eek.
so it would be possible to do this with ide drives and cut down the cost significantly. but for a price of $20,000 it better be scsi.
in this book he talks about having a computer connected to a network where the user can search for anything and find out information about it. in this way he suggests that people can educate themselves in any way the person desires. it's alot like the net, and the net is getting more and more like this.
the description of oddworld on the xbox.com website is as follows:
Save Oddworld from greedy corporate bigwigs and evil animal-testing researchers. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll meet Fuzzles about to fry. Simply neurotic...
i added the bold. am i the only one who finds this funny?
There is full disclosure. Just look the diff.[sic]
I'm not a kernel hacker and I'm also not that much of a programmer. When a new version of the kernel comes out and I want to determine how it effects me I'm probably not going to step up and diff the source tree. If one thing had changed then I could probably figure out what had changed, but if 30 or 40 things had been fixed, diff's arent going to make alot of sense to someone who isn't familar with the code. Diffs are not going to make no sense to someone who doesn't program for a living.
so for a moron like me, who just wants to _use_ linux, changelogs are more useful (if not necessary).
and you might want to read the article before posting?
While at least some of the security changes made in the prerelease of the 2.2.20 Linux kernel have already been discussed elsewhere, Cox claims that describing these changes might be in violation of the same anti-circumvention provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) used to prosecute Russian programmer Dmitri Sklyarov, and cited by Professor Felten in his initial decision not to publish a paper describing weaknesses in SDMI.
i would say that the author is aware of the reasoning. if you read on you might see his side of the story.
i've been using up2date on my computer at home. after you login you get one free "seat" (i dont remember the word they use).
so when you start up2date on a computer the first time you create a profile of that computer at redhat. you can move this seat between computers so you can still use it for free if you have multiple computers. this is nice because it cuts home users, like myself, some slack.
it's also not good for computer equipment. there was a graphite company in the city where i grew up. i used to work in the local computer store there. they would bring in these computers that were doing odd things. when you took them apart you could see plack paths where the fans had been pusing the air. since graphite is a conductor (although weak) it would short out misc stuff in the boxes.
i've been wondering for a while why more people dont use usenet. to me it's much easier to get music that way. you might have to pay for a commercial usenet server to satisfy real addiction though. from what i've read you can get a good server for about $10 a month that archives the binaries for at least a couple weeks.
hell the nice folks at alt.bin.mp3 even have them grouped by decade.
Police say the weapons included a stun gun, mace spray, five sets of knuckle-dusters, and two combat knives. None of the items had been carried on as hand-luggage.
yeah if these guys had made it to the baggage compartment and back up to the cabin things could have gotten nasty. that is if they didnt loose consciousness in the depressurized portion of the plane.
none of these items are of any concern with respect to hijacking... whats so ironic?
are these shortcomings of qu-embeded or byproducts of qt implementation issues. i thought qt-embeded was a small toolkit for drawing widgets-i dont see how it relates to power management issues.
that would really screw up my cron jobs that run at 3am. you know the ones that backup my data, update the locate database, download big stuff when people aren't using the network, etc.
i dont have to be sitting infront of my computer to use it. not to mention the fact that i'm not the only person that uses it. i'll admit that it must be hard for a windows user to understand the concept of a multiuser environment-it's hard to login to a computer when it's not on.
plus if you are rebooting in the morning, you walk by the computer, push the button, get a cup of coffee and the redhat logo is staring you in the face. rebooting alot is once every few hours (or minutes which i have expirenced with windows).
well, along with conspiracy to commit terrorism i would think the people responsible for the sept. 11 attacks would also be on trial for several thousand counts of murder-which depending on the jurisdiction could result in the death penalty.
me too. even if you discount the scsi init stuff it takes a while for it to probe the drives. i suppose i could turn off the memory check and change the ide stuff from auto and specify them. then i guess redhat takes about 25 to 35 seconds from the grub menu to the kdm login screen. i think i'm probably starting alot more services than he is also: apache, postmaster, sendmail, sshd, etc.
then i ask myself: self when was the last time you rebooted? well i think it was the last time i upgraded my operating system. while the 10 second reboot is nice, it would only become a real issue if you had to reboot alot.
Don't patent anything? Where's the profit motive? How will you pay off your 10 years of college for your PHD by giving away your ideas freely? Oh, get a job and then give those ideas away freely?? Sorry... can't work that way.
my phd is paid for not by myself, but rather my advisor. if i am getting a phd i'm probably not too concerned with money. it's certainly not profitable to get a phd. if i choose to work on an opensource project i could be doing so because i think it is the right thing to do. since i spend all day running my simulations on an openplatform using many open tools, i would not feel like i am wasting my time by contributing back to the community.
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i did not mean to suggest that selling software is evil. if i gave that impression then i apologize. ximian just recently began to sell sell their services, so i think they should have their chance at failure.
the current state of the economy is thinning up the ranks a bit in many areas, open source software companies are not excluded. business models derived from open source software are in heavy evolution by the very nature of their newness. this is bound to result in a fair number of failures.
people new to linux are more likely to purchase boxed versions of redhat and are also more likely to look into support. i dont believe companies are looking to them for all of their revenue. i believe the corporate market is a more practicle source of revenue. for example, look at the support contracts between redhat and ibm.
microsoft is evil in my opinion, but not because they sell software. i believe they are evil because they are monopolistic, and anticompetative. evidently there are alot of people who believe this. this is one of the many reasons people turn to opensource software.
when your business is so successful at stomping out the competition, that your main competitor has gained its place because it is available for free-this is a good indicator that you are a monopoly.
i've used both windows and unix (solaris, irix, linux, etc). for me the unix paradigm is prefered. granted i quite using windows over 2 years ago, after the fourth install of windows nt in the same day, died. i plugged in my roommates redhat 5.2 cd and never turned back.
i would be lying to say that i have never had problems with linux. the community that surrounds linux is one of it strongest points and weakest. the zealotry can be a big turnoff, but a wilingness to help new users is a big turnon.
if this zealotry has effected you negatively, then i am sorry and would encourage you to look past that at a community who are more than willing to help.
i think you proved your own point. ximian poduces software which they give away freely and make their money selling services-much like redhat does. by giving away software they can attain a large userbase, at the same time they can sell services to those that require it. this enables them to provide free software and make money.
the day i walked through the door he gave me root and told me to admin the groups computers. i've been fairly happy ever sense. with respect to latex: if you are writing any thing of substance, meaning anything with alot of imbedded figures and several chapters, then LaTeX is the way to go. It's great for equations, but i've found that complicated documents really dont lend them selves well to word processors... unless you have 1/2 a gig of ram and dont want to run anything else while you write the document.
most colleges give the students special deals. at pitt we get ms office, windows (2000, xp), visual studio, etc. for free.
< side though >
no body worth their weight in ram uses word or open office for a 400 page document. LaTeX is so much better.
</side though >
gates came from a wealthy family and his mother had personal connections within ibm. for the secret to success go here
i've used up2date to update the kernel on redhat 7.2 and it didnt give me any trouble. i've also had a bad expirence when updating the kernel in redhat 6.2. it screwed up symlinks everywhere and nothing would compile.
i agree with you though-it shouldnt be an option if it doesnt work. especially if it is known not to work.
shit happens. redhat works sometimes, so does mandrake and so does debian. debian can be frustrating. everyone says 'just use apt-get install crackwhore' and it will work. i've found debian works great if you stick with stable. whenever i've used testing or unstable i invariably break apt in some way. which requires alot more effort that people imply with quick statements like that made above.
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...a few with a gui. i prefer rip. if you look around on freshmeat there are quite a few more.
most computers come with two onboard ide controllers which each support two drives. so if they were using a standard motherboard, then yes 4 would be the max number of ide drives they could support. you could also purchase extra controller cards and get that number upto eleven fairly easily. they actually make ide raid cards. one word-eek.
so it would be possible to do this with ide drives and cut down the cost significantly. but for a price of $20,000 it better be scsi.
in this book he talks about having a computer connected to a network where the user can search for anything and find out information about it. in this way he suggests that people can educate themselves in any way the person desires. it's alot like the net, and the net is getting more and more like this.
this is the first tim'e i've noticed this:
the description of oddworld on the xbox.com website is as follows:
Save Oddworld from greedy corporate bigwigs and evil animal-testing researchers. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll meet Fuzzles about to fry. Simply neurotic...
i added the bold. am i the only one who finds this funny?
There is full disclosure. Just look the diff.[sic]
I'm not a kernel hacker and I'm also not that much of a programmer. When a new version of the kernel comes out and I want to determine how it effects me I'm probably not going to step up and diff the source tree. If one thing had changed then I could probably figure out what had changed, but if 30 or 40 things had been fixed, diff's arent going to make alot of sense to someone who isn't familar with the code. Diffs are not going to make no sense to someone who doesn't program for a living.
so for a moron like me, who just wants to _use_ linux, changelogs are more useful (if not necessary).
and you might want to read the article before posting?
While at least some of the security changes made in the prerelease of the 2.2.20 Linux kernel have already been discussed elsewhere, Cox claims that describing these changes might be in violation of the same anti-circumvention provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) used to prosecute Russian programmer Dmitri Sklyarov, and cited by Professor Felten in his initial decision not to publish a paper describing weaknesses in SDMI.
i would say that the author is aware of the reasoning. if you read on you might see his side of the story.
look look here
basically when you sign up with redhat you get to run up2date on one computer for free. nice for students.
i've been using up2date on my computer at home. after you login you get one free "seat" (i dont remember the word they use).
so when you start up2date on a computer the first time you create a profile of that computer at redhat. you can move this seat between computers so you can still use it for free if you have multiple computers. this is nice because it cuts home users, like myself, some slack.
it's also not good for computer equipment. there was a graphite company in the city where i grew up. i used to work in the local computer store there. they would bring in these computers that were doing odd things. when you took them apart you could see plack paths where the fans had been pusing the air. since graphite is a conductor (although weak) it would short out misc stuff in the boxes.
i've been wondering for a while why more people dont use usenet. to me it's much easier to get music that way. you might have to pay for a commercial usenet server to satisfy real addiction though. from what i've read you can get a good server for about $10 a month that archives the binaries for at least a couple weeks.
hell the nice folks at alt.bin.mp3 even have them grouped by decade.
Thats how I write christianity also.
Police say the weapons included a stun gun, mace spray, five sets of knuckle-dusters, and two combat knives. None of the items had been carried on as hand-luggage.
yeah if these guys had made it to the baggage compartment and back up to the cabin things could have gotten nasty. that is if they didnt loose consciousness in the depressurized portion of the plane.
none of these items are of any concern with respect to hijacking... whats so ironic?
are these shortcomings of qu-embeded or byproducts of qt implementation issues. i thought qt-embeded was a small toolkit for drawing widgets-i dont see how it relates to power management issues.
actually it is
http://sage.che.pitt.edu/~harrold/tmp/fccm01_pilch ard.pdf
that would really screw up my cron jobs that run at 3am. you know the ones that backup my data, update the locate database, download big stuff when people aren't using the network, etc.
i dont have to be sitting infront of my computer to use it. not to mention the fact that i'm not the only person that uses it. i'll admit that it must be hard for a windows user to understand the concept of a multiuser environment-it's hard to login to a computer when it's not on.
plus if you are rebooting in the morning, you walk by the computer, push the button, get a cup of coffee and the redhat logo is staring you in the face. rebooting alot is once every few hours (or minutes which i have expirenced with windows).
well, along with conspiracy to commit terrorism i would think the people responsible for the sept. 11 attacks would also be on trial for several thousand counts of murder-which depending on the jurisdiction could result in the death penalty.
me too. even if you discount the scsi init stuff it takes a while for it to probe the drives. i suppose i could turn off the memory check and change the ide stuff from auto and specify them. then i guess redhat takes about 25 to 35 seconds from the grub menu to the kdm login screen. i think i'm probably starting alot more services than he is also: apache, postmaster, sendmail, sshd, etc.
then i ask myself: self when was the last time you rebooted? well i think it was the last time i upgraded my operating system. while the 10 second reboot is nice, it would only become a real issue if you had to reboot alot.
Don't patent anything? Where's the profit motive? How will you pay off your 10 years of college for your PHD by giving away your ideas freely? Oh, get a job and then give those ideas away freely?? Sorry... can't work that way.
my phd is paid for not by myself, but rather my advisor. if i am getting a phd i'm probably not too concerned with money. it's certainly not profitable to get a phd. if i choose to work on an opensource project i could be doing so because i think it is the right thing to do. since i spend all day running my simulations on an openplatform using many open tools, i would not feel like i am wasting my time by contributing back to the community.