As I'm not a developer, nor can I code past "hello world", I'm in no place to dispute any of your counterarguments. However, assuming you are correct - your lucidity and maturity in responding to what appears to be a Dvorakian troll would indicate that you do - I can see a much better world of web based apps. The way cell phones are creating new opportunities for web based apps is obviously another arena in which their commonplace and sophistication will rise.
However, the most striking reason not to utilize such applications for me is licensing and/or privacy terms. While I do use services like Gmail and Google Docs, Picasa/Flickr and have tried their photo editing suite, outside of Gmail I've done this to a pretty limited extent. When I have to money and time to run my own domain I'll do so, and continue to do so. Though the chance of Google or Yahoo wanting my pictures for their advertising is small, I never want their to be any other owner of my content than who I choose - Picasachu, I don't choose you:D
As for privacy, the same logic extends. I'll use these services for now, and frankly I love Gmail - I will be sad to lose that kick ass interface when I finally make the jump to my own domain.
I can't understand why anyone who would spend the time to read the TOS's of these kinds of services would agree to them for any but the most inconsequential creations or needs. Your thoughts?
Actually, I think it would be even more metal if we created a black hole that took us to a dimension of pure evil and Sam Neill screaming "DOOOO YOOOUUU SEEEE!!??"
Oh, quite. My friends and I have made a running joke, sometimes because we do it ourselves, of the phrase "but, fuckin'". I first made the comment noticing the phenomena with me and my stoner buddies replacing "uh" with "fuckin'" as stoners are generally less profanity-averse. All of which of course leads to variations of "butt fucking".
Our personal favorite is a strained and nasalish Queen's English falsetto "butt fucking". The precise pronunciation puts us in stitches.
You do realize that Westboro Baptist Church is the same group that does the "god hates fags" and "thank god for dead soldiers" crap, right? The only response to these and other Internet Tough Guys is to mod them down out of existence.
Ricardo Mantelban es muy macho, si, pero Mistah Roarke canceles out-a Khan. Pero Desi Arnez con "Babbaloo" est immortales! Desi Arnez es macho muy bien! Desi Arnez est mas macho. Si, si, Desi Arnez. Nexte questione!
Oh the PEBKAC error definitely exists on both sides...Tier One support doesn't get a bad reputation for no reason. When I was hired, I had to show that I knew at least something about computers. I had no trouble performing the basic tasks, but the other new hire had to be told how to open an email client - how he made it on the phones is beyond me.
I guess sometimes they want someone who thinks differently than a techie, but I still have a hard time seeing how this guy could have been any help to anyone.
You assume I had a condescending tone, but as I have bills, and need money I performed my job professionally. I've always been bitter at people who are willingly stupid and I make no excuses for that, but I also try to give everyone a chance and generally am a nice and fun guy. I don't treat those who are less intelligent by no fault of their own as lesser, and have close friends ranging from truck drivers to scientists.
Additionally, support is support and not "Computers 101" which was a large part of customer expectations, to whit I was kindly attempting to help these people help themselves.
You seem to ignore the fact that many of these people - whether they forgot their password, or have a serious malfunction - don't and won't take any time to learn the slightest about their machines which yes, are a means to an end. Much like they won't and don't learn to check their dipsticks, air pressure, and filters which are pretty darn important to keeping their investment in proper running condition.
* Stop reading/watching the "news"; as much as I share the concerns of most with respect to world affairs, I have found that following it too closely only makes me depressed about things I have no control over nor influence on.
Yeah, but people HAVE to obsess over celebrities and "crises". OJ, Britney, 9/11...Mental masturbation is at it's highest in history, just look at the magazine fare offered in the checkout isles on your next trip for groceries.
Negative, yeah. I'm tired of this vacuous culture of The Violence Channel and The 'Baitin Network. Of people who want to bury their heads. I'm an idealist and even though my feelings hearken to my adolescence, wrong is wrong.
I've been trying to chill the fuck out in my older years, with some success, but that just feels like I'm burying my own head.
When I used to do tech support, I would point people to Webopedia.com, and other sites with step-by-step walk-throughs and often I would find that they didn't want to know how to fix the simple problems they experienced. They preferred to have to wait on the phone and have us hold their hands, all the while getting angry at us and their PCs/Macs. I've heard people say on plenty of occasions that they don't know and don't want to know. They want their head in the sand, just like with music, movies, television, and politics.
More than a few friends of mine and I have felt that we should slow down and make what we have work correctly, if not better, rather than move on to the next idea.
How is this offtopic? Not only do I give suggestions for how to work part time - and I grant that it's an extreme example, but still legit especially if the poster has the talent - but I also cite examples of how ridiculous IT managers can be, and my plan for avoiding this scenario. Since there are other examples in this post similar to mine, that seems heavy handed.
I'd like to mod this up, but I've never been able to mod in the past and now is no different. I opened the modifier option and gave you +3 Insightful, but when I refresh the page you're still at 1. Now when I click "score", it says "No comment history available."
You've been around here for a while, what am I doing wrong?
I've seen or heard so many ridiculous demands on IT personnel and their off time that it pretty much showed me that I don't want to work in the industry. The management tends to lean HARD on the person with the most knowledge.
For example, I was once pulling a Sunday watch and one of our LAN's went down, and considering it was a LAN that is hardly used I reasoned that if I couldn't solve the problem we would get to it in the morning when the senior administrator came into work. My boss tells me to call him into work, knowing full well he was enjoying one of his few days off with his girlfriend, and was several hundred miles away at Disneyland - not to mention he lives about 60 miles from work. Understandably, he didn't pick up his phone and my boss decided to have me call him every five minutes until he picked up, which turned into me calling every five minutes to remind him not to pick up his phone. I continued to troubleshoot and traced the problem to the router and my boss says:
"Oh, I know what to do." and hard reboots the modem, problem solved...
...So I'm going to do some contract work in the Middle East for a while, leverage the contacts I make there for a lower level SysAd job that I'll hold down for a while as I attend school, and GTFO.
On a more helpful note, I know two people who's skills allow them to make money when they need it, and they otherwise do what they want for extended periods of time. One is a graphic designer who will seek out commissions, and spends his free time making music and performing live, hardware hacking, and travelling. The other is an engineer who started out with a PCI-based encryption card, sold it to the NSA(IIRC), and does similar things when he needs work. He spends his free time traveling, usually finding his way into some kind of shenanigans and other tomfoolery, even being told not to return to certain countries only to fly his plane back into them covertly.
I'll never forget that I was actually excited before Load came out. I was so excited... man... I don't even know what to say about all that. I wrote them off when they sued their fans. Couldn't agree more. Defended them till the last...The last being suing their fans, a move only the biggest of whiny douches could pull.
Why do you think Danny Lohner's overrated? I didn't know his name so I looked him up on wiki and found he's done work in NIN and APC...Seems like pretty good names to drop as far as I'm concerned, but I'd have to pay attention to his particular tracks to understand better.
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is really the last straw for you, well....
SEE YA
Seriously, wtf bothers you so much about this that you can't have a laugh? Last I checked a bunch of nerds are responsible for the majority of good comedy over the last 20 years, but somehow you lot made poopypants and are screaming for mommy to change your diapers...
It's only a matter of time till Camp Chaos weighs in...And I for one can't wait to see Suckphallica's latest "album" go to hard copy and see it's release at Hot Topic. Maybe then Notalenta's "die hard" new fans can pay 15 bucks for such greats as "The Unforgiven 3". I'm sure Mallratica's new fans are as die hard as to put them on the top of the Billboard chart's with no radio or video airtime.
They changed and the true fans stuck with them. They sued and we jumped ship. Now they can go down with it...This is gonna be great. Anyone hotdogs or s'mores for the campfire?
are we arguing the finer details of an article posted by Rolling Stone? Do we really need to remind everyone how completely behind the times and part of the corporate music structure Rolling Stone has been for the last 20 years? If you really need to discover how incompetent and worthless their "journalism" is, then just read the articles.
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As I'm not a developer, nor can I code past "hello world", I'm in no place to dispute any of your counterarguments. However, assuming you are correct - your lucidity and maturity in responding to what appears to be a Dvorakian troll would indicate that you do - I can see a much better world of web based apps. The way cell phones are creating new opportunities for web based apps is obviously another arena in which their commonplace and sophistication will rise.
However, the most striking reason not to utilize such applications for me is licensing and/or privacy terms. While I do use services like Gmail and Google Docs, Picasa/Flickr and have tried their photo editing suite, outside of Gmail I've done this to a pretty limited extent. When I have to money and time to run my own domain I'll do so, and continue to do so. Though the chance of Google or Yahoo wanting my pictures for their advertising is small, I never want their to be any other owner of my content than who I choose - Picasachu, I don't choose you :D
As for privacy, the same logic extends. I'll use these services for now, and frankly I love Gmail - I will be sad to lose that kick ass interface when I finally make the jump to my own domain.
I can't understand why anyone who would spend the time to read the TOS's of these kinds of services would agree to them for any but the most inconsequential creations or needs. Your thoughts?
Actually, I think it would be even more metal if we created a black hole that took us to a dimension of pure evil and Sam Neill screaming "DOOOO YOOOUUU SEEEE!!??"
Oh, quite. My friends and I have made a running joke, sometimes because we do it ourselves, of the phrase "but, fuckin'". I first made the comment noticing the phenomena with me and my stoner buddies replacing "uh" with "fuckin'" as stoners are generally less profanity-averse. All of which of course leads to variations of "butt fucking".
Our personal favorite is a strained and nasalish Queen's English falsetto "butt fucking". The precise pronunciation puts us in stitches.
Oh yeah, and that "church" is comprised of about 150 people most of whom are related.
You do realize that Westboro Baptist Church is the same group that does the "god hates fags" and "thank god for dead soldiers" crap, right? The only response to these and other Internet Tough Guys is to mod them down out of existence.
Ricardo Mantelban es muy macho, si, pero Mistah Roarke canceles out-a Khan. Pero Desi Arnez con "Babbaloo" est immortales! Desi Arnez es macho muy bien! Desi Arnez est mas macho. Si, si, Desi Arnez. Nexte questione!
Socrates, is that you?
I guess sometimes they want someone who thinks differently than a techie, but I still have a hard time seeing how this guy could have been any help to anyone.
You assume I had a condescending tone, but as I have bills, and need money I performed my job professionally. I've always been bitter at people who are willingly stupid and I make no excuses for that, but I also try to give everyone a chance and generally am a nice and fun guy. I don't treat those who are less intelligent by no fault of their own as lesser, and have close friends ranging from truck drivers to scientists. Additionally, support is support and not "Computers 101" which was a large part of customer expectations, to whit I was kindly attempting to help these people help themselves. You seem to ignore the fact that many of these people - whether they forgot their password, or have a serious malfunction - don't and won't take any time to learn the slightest about their machines which yes, are a means to an end. Much like they won't and don't learn to check their dipsticks, air pressure, and filters which are pretty darn important to keeping their investment in proper running condition.
* Stop reading/watching the "news"; as much as I share the concerns of most with respect to world affairs, I have found that following it too closely only makes me depressed about things I have no control over nor influence on.
Yeah, but people HAVE to obsess over celebrities and "crises". OJ, Britney, 9/11...Mental masturbation is at it's highest in history, just look at the magazine fare offered in the checkout isles on your next trip for groceries. Negative, yeah. I'm tired of this vacuous culture of The Violence Channel and The 'Baitin Network. Of people who want to bury their heads. I'm an idealist and even though my feelings hearken to my adolescence, wrong is wrong. I've been trying to chill the fuck out in my older years, with some success, but that just feels like I'm burying my own head.
More than a few friends of mine and I have felt that we should slow down and make what we have work correctly, if not better, rather than move on to the next idea.
There's always a reason...
It's too bad, it really seemed like an interesting game. I WAS looking forward to playing it when I upgraded.
How is this offtopic? Not only do I give suggestions for how to work part time - and I grant that it's an extreme example, but still legit especially if the poster has the talent - but I also cite examples of how ridiculous IT managers can be, and my plan for avoiding this scenario. Since there are other examples in this post similar to mine, that seems heavy handed.
I'd like to mod this up, but I've never been able to mod in the past and now is no different. I opened the modifier option and gave you +3 Insightful, but when I refresh the page you're still at 1. Now when I click "score", it says "No comment history available." You've been around here for a while, what am I doing wrong?
I've seen or heard so many ridiculous demands on IT personnel and their off time that it pretty much showed me that I don't want to work in the industry. The management tends to lean HARD on the person with the most knowledge.
For example, I was once pulling a Sunday watch and one of our LAN's went down, and considering it was a LAN that is hardly used I reasoned that if I couldn't solve the problem we would get to it in the morning when the senior administrator came into work. My boss tells me to call him into work, knowing full well he was enjoying one of his few days off with his girlfriend, and was several hundred miles away at Disneyland - not to mention he lives about 60 miles from work. Understandably, he didn't pick up his phone and my boss decided to have me call him every five minutes until he picked up, which turned into me calling every five minutes to remind him not to pick up his phone. I continued to troubleshoot and traced the problem to the router and my boss says:
"Oh, I know what to do." and hard reboots the modem, problem solved...
On a more helpful note, I know two people who's skills allow them to make money when they need it, and they otherwise do what they want for extended periods of time. One is a graphic designer who will seek out commissions, and spends his free time making music and performing live, hardware hacking, and travelling. The other is an engineer who started out with a PCI-based encryption card, sold it to the NSA(IIRC), and does similar things when he needs work. He spends his free time traveling, usually finding his way into some kind of shenanigans and other tomfoolery, even being told not to return to certain countries only to fly his plane back into them covertly.
Sounds like kick ass lives to me.
I am Jack's Smirking Revenge...For some reason, I thought of my first fight, with Tyler.
I'm starting to think that Riches must be related to Jack Thompson...
"If you have one bucket that holds two gallons, and another bucket that holds five gallons, how many buckets do you have?"
The article says 300 interviewed, as for who they actually interviewed and how they ask the questions, who knows?
Why do you think Danny Lohner's overrated? I didn't know his name so I looked him up on wiki and found he's done work in NIN and APC...Seems like pretty good names to drop as far as I'm concerned, but I'd have to pay attention to his particular tracks to understand better.
is really the last straw for you, well....
SEE YA
Seriously, wtf bothers you so much about this that you can't have a laugh? Last I checked a bunch of nerds are responsible for the majority of good comedy over the last 20 years, but somehow you lot made poopypants and are screaming for mommy to change your diapers...
It's only a matter of time till Camp Chaos weighs in ...And I for one can't wait to see Suckphallica's latest "album" go to hard copy and see it's release at Hot Topic. Maybe then Notalenta's "die hard" new fans can pay 15 bucks for such greats as "The Unforgiven 3". I'm sure Mallratica's new fans are as die hard as to put them on the top of the Billboard chart's with no radio or video airtime.
They changed and the true fans stuck with them. They sued and we jumped ship. Now they can go down with it...This is gonna be great. Anyone hotdogs or s'mores for the campfire?
Thank you sir.
In this age of regurgitation fed to the (largely) young and unknowledgable masses, it's refreshing to see someone calling shenanigans.
-yerk
are we arguing the finer details of an article posted by Rolling Stone? Do we really need to remind everyone how completely behind the times and part of the corporate music structure Rolling Stone has been for the last 20 years? If you really need to discover how incompetent and worthless their "journalism" is, then just read the articles.