Metallica to Star in Next Major Guitar Hero?

Many readers have written in to let us know Metallica may be the star of the next major installment to the Guitar Hero franchise. "Edward Woo, a Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst, was going through some SEC filings from Activision, and found the following plan. 'In fiscal 2009, we plan to publish Guitar Hero: On Tour for the NDS; Guitar Hero: Aerosmith, Guitar Hero: Metallica, and Guitar Hero IV across multiple platforms,' the report read. Since the fiscal year ends March 31, 2009, it doesn't sound like we have long to wait for this title. That's four Guitar Hero games coming in the next year. How many can the market take?"

Comments

Who cares

[Archangel Michael]

Really? They're just trying to win back some fans that have long since written them off for their hatred of their fans.

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[oahazmatt]

Really? They're just trying to win back some fans that have long since written them off for their hatred of their fans. Then they'd better make sure none of the material from St. Anger makes it into the game.

Re:Who cares

[darkhitman]

Who do you think decided to make Guitar Hero: Metallica? I kind of doubt it was Metallica. Activision was probably like "Hmm...what major metal band could we use to milk even more money out of our GH franchise?" and their greedy, grasping hands finally rested on Metallica. I suppose it could be the other way around, that Metallica commissioned the game, but I kinda doubt it. They probably thought to themselves "what the hell, it can't exactly hurt us" and agreed to it. So, I don't think it's just Metallica trying to "win back fans", exactly. Maybe they saw that as a possible result, but who knows.

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[Chabo]

I wore my "...And Justice For All" t-shirt to the last metal show I went to, and I overheard two guys talking about it behind me, trying not to let me hear:

Guy1: Aww, Metallica? They fucking suck!
Guy2: Wait dude, that's Justice. They were awesome in the 80s.
Guy1: Really?
Guy2: Yeah, go listen to Justice or Puppets, don't forget they had a bunch of other albums before St. Anger.

Re:Who cares

[geminidomino]

Who do you think decided to make Guitar Hero: Metallica? I kind of doubt it was Metallica. Activision was probably like "Hmm...what major metal band could we use to milk even more money out of our GH franchise?" and their greedy, grasping hands finally rested on Metallica. I think you're forgetting one of Activision's biggest considerations.

"What kind of well known name can we still get for really really cheap?"

Cue call to washed-up has-beens to cut a deal for a pittance and vague promises about a return to relevance.

Re:Who cares

[Cap'nPedro]

That should be hatred of their 'fans' (music pirates; as Ulrich sees them) and because of the shitty music.
Saint Anger lost more fans than the whole Napster affair.

My faith was restored, so to speak, by Some Kind of Monster, and I am still a fan, but not as much as I used to be.

I, for one, will not be running out to buy the game just because it features Metallica.

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[Negatyfus]

Hah, gotta love them new kids. Just like them to be ignorant of one of the founders of thrash metal. Metallica were never brilliant musicians in the face of more skilled bands, but their drive for metal made them what they were (and Dave's in the case of Megadeth). I guess I'm old enough now to welcome a new generation of metal kids instead of putting down their choice of bands.

Re:Who cares

[jgarra23]

My faith was restored, so to speak, by Some Kind of Monster, and I am still a fan, but not as much as I used to be.
I'm actually surprised by this comment. While I thoroughly enjoyed SKoM, I had a completely different experience from it.

I saw a band that was really a clique (Hammet, Hetfield & Ulrich) in disguise, ganging up on Dave Mustaine and throwing him out, ultimately alienating and doing the same to Jason Newsted and ultimately turning on itself when they ran out of punching bags. They also non-verbally admitted their bad-rep amongst the metal world by having to bribe Robert Trujillo under the guise of giving him a million bucks to join when really it's that the only people who were willing to audition just didn't have the talent to play live riffs (Danny Lohner? Gimme a break, he's WAAAY overrated).

There are other issues but then I'll just be going on & on... it's really sad because I really enjoy their pre-Black music. I'll never forget that I was actually excited before Load came out. I was so excited... man... I don't even know what to say about all that. I wrote them off when they sued their fans. I don't really care- it's like an abusive relationship with them always. They will use you up until they can't squeeze any more out and then they will sue you for the rest. You want to have a side project? Fuck you.

None of that anger is reflect towards parent post :) I wish I was as forgiving as you in that respect.

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[Red Flayer]

Heh, reminds me of a great exchange from James:

[lights come up]
crowd goes wild, then quiets down
How many people own our first album?
crowd cheers loudly
How many people own 'Kill 'em All'?
Crowd goes nuts and erupts
They're the same fucking album, assholes!

Re:Who cares

[Cap'nPedro]

No anger was interpreted!

I actually agree with what you're getting at; especially the part about the clique. Mustaine being kicked out was a good thing IMO. He had problems and needed to take control of his life and take responsibility for his actions. Not to mention we wouldn't have Megadeth!

And I totally agree about pre Black Album songs, they were great. Kill 'Em All sounds very .... rough (?), unperfected, very from the heart instead of manufactured maybe but has classic songs. That's why I liked SKoM; classic songs, performed by a band that's improved, practiced, and learn.

I'll have to wrap up around now, because I can't sit around on /. talking about metal all day, but I'll just say that I enjoyed everything up to Load, which felt distinctly mediocre. Ditto for ReLoad. St Anger was just... I won't even go there. Unfinished, but not in the same way that Kill em All was.

Will I be getting the new album? By torrent, yes.

Re:Who cares

[Ethanol-fueled]

If their guitar hero performance will be anything like the last show of theirs that I saw, then James Hettfield will forget some lyrics and be pelted in the face with plastic bottles before begging for sympathy(citing "self-esteem"). Then, when they stop their real show and pull out the gimmicky little acoustic set, their little ditties would be drowned out from crowd-booing.

That was in San Diego, at Coors Ampitheater, in '98 or '99 on the Re-Load tour BEFORE the abomination known as St. Anger was released! Now, one might as well save a few bucks and see Sum41 instead since the two bands are now virtually identical. Don't believe the hype.

Re:Who cares

[Idimmu Xul]

Then they'd better make sure none of the material from St. Anger makes it into the game.

I used to really hate St. Anger when it was first released, but now time has passed I really quite like a few of the tracks, namely Frantic and Some Kind Of Monster. I thoroughly suggest you go back and give it another spin! Sure it's not And Justice For All ... but it's not that bad :)

Free Playstation 3, XBox 360 and Nintendo Wii

Re:Who cares

[JebusIsLord]

Honestly I didn't much care for Metallica when they were "good", so now I'm just basking in self-righteousness. It's more a genre thing though; I find most metal to be pretty numbing after a few minutes.

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[RiotingPacifist]

I dunno about your definition of washed-up is but playing major festivals and doing tours while producing a new album, means id quite like to be washed up too.

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[antic]

I only discovered Guitar Hero III last week and I'd like to see them release any albums they can get their hands on as playable tracks - the best Metallica albums, Pantera, Sepultura, etc. I don't mind if they don't take it to the level of the Aerosmith release (mo-cap on the talent, etc), just bring across the songs.

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[somersault]

I'm not much into the crazy stupid stuff like Iron Maiden, but some Metallica can actually be pretty good - the only album I have is S&M though, which is them playing along with an orchestra, which obviously helps to make the whole thing more majestic and refined. Not all their songs are just them thrashing away at 180bpm :P The band members do seem to be dicks though.

Re:Who cares

[ucblockhead]

How many people own our latest album?

crickets chirp

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[Prien715]

How you doing out there?
crowd cheers loudly
I said how ya doin' out there [City Name]?
Crowd goes nuts and erupts

Asking the same question and getting answers doesn't necessarily mean anything....

Re:Who cares

[makohund]

Um... I'm trying to figure out what you mean by crazy stupid stuff = Iron Maiden.

Being quite familiar with all sorts of music, metal in particular, and most certainly both Metallica and Iron Maiden, the statement doesn't make much since.

I could understand "I don't like Iron Maiden".
I could also understand "I think Iron Maiden is stupid".

But calling their material "crazy stupid stuff" makes it sound like you've never even heard them before, and you just pulled a name out of a hat.

Maybe I'm wrong about that, but most (fans or not) consider Maiden to be pretty straightforward. The music more progressive than most pop, but far from overcomplicated. The vocals are very melodic, and probably closer to what one might hear in a stage musical (broadway style) than most other metal. Their stage show is impressive, but not out of the norm for a rock show. Their image is pretty much within the bounds of "rock bands" in general. (I know some folks that were scared off by their mascot Eddie and associated artwork... that were genuinely suprised when they actually listened to it.)

As far as metal goes they are one of the founders of the genre, but are actually pretty tame. Probably one of the most "accessible" of all metal bands. The term crazy just doesn't fit. I'd go so far as to attach it to Metallica long before Maiden.

There are so many bands worthy of that term... Maiden is probably the last metal band I'd describe as "crazy".

For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOKaUmiRTdk

As opposed to say... Machine Head? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFACKpApNMg

(I dig 'em both, but one is definitely more "crazy" than the other.

Re:Who cares

[yerktoader]

I'll never forget that I was actually excited before Load came out. I was so excited... man... I don't even know what to say about all that. I wrote them off when they sued their fans. Couldn't agree more. Defended them till the last...The last being suing their fans, a move only the biggest of whiny douches could pull.

Why do you think Danny Lohner's overrated? I didn't know his name so I looked him up on wiki and found he's done work in NIN and APC...Seems like pretty good names to drop as far as I'm concerned, but I'd have to pay attention to his particular tracks to understand better.

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[pegdhcp]

Better yet, they can forget anything after (probably including) the black album.

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[somersault]

Well the few maiden songs that I have heard all seem to be very long with pointless solos (I remember seeing one of their concerts on MTV2 and it just seemed to be endless widdly solos that were going nowhere.. that was like 9 years ago now though so maybe I'd be able to appreciate them more now. You could say the same about Metallica too but dunno I just find their music more interesting. Actually watching your video there one of the main factors is that I just don't like the guy's vocals. I mean mixing Axel Rose style high pitched stuff (Axel probably came after but you know what I mean) with lyrics that are meant to be spooky or whatever.. just doesn't do it for me. The Metallica guy gets away with it because he's more of a growler.

I had also recently lumped Van Halen with Iron Maiden in the same 'crazy widdly guitar solos for no reason' category. but after hearing my flatmate play them in his car and realising that the riff from "Aint Talkin Bout Dub" was a Van Halen song, I gave them a listen and I quite like their stuff now. Some really good riffs in there, and Learn To See is one of my favourite songs now (I especially like the drums with the triple bass kick). Iron Maiden have a song on Guitar Hero III and it was far more simple than I expected (though still quite frantic), but I just find all the "six.. six six!" bullshit a bit much when mixed with a screamy girly singer. The actual music was okay.

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[somersault]

That machinehead video "isn't available in my country" (UK) apparently, but I jus ran a search for them and I like their singing/music in 'Bush'.. good stacatto rhythm mixed with flowing melodies :) Should probably get one of their albums!

Re:Who cares

[somersault]

Oh wait.. the band is Bush and the song is Machinehead.. duh xD

Re:Who cares

[Lonewolf666]

Metallica were indeed of one of the founders of thrash metal, and in their earlier years I count them among the best musicians in the genre (as it was back then). Certainly up to "Justice For All", and the Black Album was OK too.

But after that, they sort of lost their drive and did some so-so hard rock stuff. I think they never quite recovered from that, and the metal scene in general has produced a lot of really good bands since.
Overall I think thrash/speed/black metal has grown up some and it is more difficult these days to stand out. The Metallica from the 80s would still count as good band but I don't think they could reach superstar status anymore.

Re:Who cares

[poot_rootbeer]

How many people own our first album?
crowd cheers loudly
How many people own 'Kill 'em All'?
Crowd goes nuts and erupts
They're the same fucking album, assholes!

I guess 'No Life 'Til Leather' has been retroactively made to not count. Is this because:
1. James was too drunk at the time to remember recording it;
2. Original bassist Ron McGovney shows up to demand royalties any time someone mentions it;
3. Despite having all the necessary characteristics of an album, 'Leather' was self-produced and distributed, and therefore merely a 'demo tape', as opposed to a major-label-supported 'album'?

Re:Who cares

[qcubed]

Are you talking about Metallica? Or Activision?

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[bishiraver]

Wrong band! Heh!

Machine Head is a pretty heavy thrash metal band. Saw them recently at Nokia Theater / Times Square, pretty good. Arch Enemy is better, though.

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[somersault]

I eventually got them on Youtube and I must say I do like them. So I like crazy metal, but I don't like opera-like metal perhaps. The singer on Dragonforce sings a bit like that, but at least the music is equally mental as well :)

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[equivocal]

...having to bribe Robert Trujillo under the guise of giving him a million bucks to join...

It was a million dollar advance presumably paid back from his share of future band earnings. Hope he decided to put that million somewhere stable and live off the interest income.

Re:Who cares

[jgarra23]

Why do you think Danny Lohner's overrated? I didn't know his name so I looked him up on wiki and found he's done work in NIN and APC...Seems like pretty good names to drop as far as I'm concerned, but I'd have to pay attention to his particular tracks to understand better.


He appears to be a pretty good hand in the studio but I've seen him live a multitude of times... Maybe I was seeing off nights or something but I didn't think he was on par with anyone else on stage any of those times. Some people are better suited live & some people should stay in the studio I guess. Nothing wrong with either...

Re:Who cares

[makohund]

> all seem to be very long with pointless solos
> Actually watching your video there one of the main factors is that I just don't like the guy's vocals.

OK, that's the sort of criticism/opinion I can understand and get behind, even if I don't agree. :)

> Axel probably came after but you know what I mean

Yep, Axl definitely came after (and went long before). Maiden predates Axl by about 10 years, and is still trucking along over 15 years since Axl last did anything.

I do know what you mean though. I actually like the vocals, as being a bit different from most metal. He's a tenor, like Plant (Led Zeppelin) Dio (Black Sabbath/Dio) Halford (Judas Priest), etc. I also give him a bit of a pass as one of the inventors of the genre to begin with. (Without Sabbath, Priest and Maiden as inspiration there might never have been a Metallica to compare them to.)

I won't argue taste, though. That's cool if it doesn't float your boat. Same goes for solos. I get what you mean by pointless. Many are. Some aren't... I consider the good ones an additional (or even "counter") melody that takes a song somewhere it wouldn't have gone without it, or via vocals alone. If I can remember it and hum/whistle along, it's probably a good one. I agree some of Maiden's aren't. But think many are.

As for the singer, the dude is also a bit of a geek. With a few exceptions, most of the lyrics are based on sci-fi books (one entire album based loosely on an Orson Scott Card novel), historical events, and old literature. (Admittedly, they sometimes they can be a bit corny.) He works as a commercial airline pilot (757) on his off-time, and flies their own jet when touring. Oddball trivia... he's also competed internationally at fencing. Weird. :)

> I had also recently lumped Van Halen with Iron Maiden in the same 'crazy widdly guitar solos for no reason' category. but after hearing my flatmate play them in his car and realising that the riff from "Aint Talkin Bout Dub"

Ain't Talking Bout Love?

Yeah, early VH is good stuff. Sometimes solos are an acquired taste. Just because the notes are fast and one might not be able to follow it at first, doesn't mean there isn't a point and/or direction. There's a few categories of classical music that could be categorized the same way. (Bach's fugues for example. Not to mention flamenco and other classical guitar styles. And lots of jazz.)

>Iron Maiden have a song on Guitar Hero III and it was far more simple than I expected (though still quite frantic), but I just find all the "six.. six six!" bullshit a bit much when mixed with a screamy girly singer. The actual music was okay.

Well, that tune is about a dude getting the shit scared out of him by a bad dream (stumbling across some sort of satanic cult ritual) that seemed way too real. So screaming like a girl might actually be appropriate. :)

As for girly... well, even if he sounds it, he doesn't look it. That bastard is in shape, too. Saw them at Ozzfest a few years ago and they basically blew everybody away. All bands, of all types, of all ages. Belting that shit out while sprinting around, climbing up stuff, jumping... it was like a damn obstacle course. Dude is in his fifties, and he made all the young metal dudes look like lifeless pansies, and of course next to him Ozzy was like a rotting zombie. Suprised the hell out of me, to be honest. The whole place was going nuts, too.

The guitar hero type games (I have rock band) are basically (very fun) rhythm trainers. And the rhythmical aspects of Maiden are all about stamina, more so than any complexity.

I've played a few Maiden covers for real on stage in my time, and I can tell you that if you're not in shape, they can cramp the hell out of your hands.

At any rate I know what you meant now, and it makes much more sense.

Cheers!

Re:Who cares

[makohund]

Oh yeah... that is definitely the wrong band!

Bush? Heh, heh, heh. Good one. :)

Machine Head is damn good thrash metal nowadays. As is Arch Enemy... but I lean more toward Machine Head in the vocal department. (Arch Enemy was actually the first band I saw that day, at the Ozzfest I saw Maiden at). Their most recent album (The Blackening) is probably my favorite metal album of the last few years. I have Doomsday Machine, but haven't heard Arch Enemy's latest yet.

If he likes metal, but with heavier singing, and cool riffs, he'd probably like Machine Head.

And maybe Testament. "The Gathering" is Chuck Billy at his best, and another all-time favorite of mine. In fact, that reminds me... I need to go out and buy their new album NOW!

Someone else mentioned Dragonforce... I was actually going to suggest that. "If you don't like girly tenor vocals, and you don't like fast "twiddly" guitars, you'll REALLY hate these guys!".

Re:Who cares

[somersault]

When I said Axel I meant Axel Rose, who must be a tenor too (if not an alto to soprano at times xD ). I do like the guy from Zepellin's voice, I don't know what it is about the Iron Maiden guy's voice that ticks me off. Maybe I'll get used to it one day.

Ya I was talkin about Aint Talkin Bout Love, but the first place that I actually heard that riff was in an Apollo 440 dub remix called Aint Talkin Bout Dub, it's pretty good.

Funny you should mention jazz, I often don't like that either ;) But I do like some solos if they sound good as well as just being technically impressive - I like the song 'Eruption' which is just pure Van Halen soloing all the way :) I enjoy classical guitar, and can play stuff like that intro from Classical Gas, a bit of Angie by Davy Graham, some Eric Clapton Unplugged stuff (Tears in Heaven is great). I also started learning a guitar arrangement of The Entertainer, I should go back and re-learn/finish it (I used to be a bit jealous of my sis being able to play it on the piano, even though I'm not that into pianos :p ).

Yeah I've never really been into pure rhythm playing, so when I was playing guitar hero co-op at the weekend my friend's left hand was getting sore while it was my right that was getting knackered (though apparently I move my whole arm for the strumming and he just uses his wrist, so I'm bound to use more energy there). He's not a guitarist though, and also I'm left handed so that probably means I've got more left hand strength and dexterity. I do a bit of drumming here and there so my rhythm should be okay too but he was pwning me on The Fire and the Flames rhythm parts as I kinda just play the first rhythm part as fast as I can because it sounds mental, but obviously I was going too fast. I pulled it back at the crazy solos because I've been practicing a Living Colour song that has lots of crazy soloing, but then when it came to rhythm again at the end he just scraped a win - nice to have some worthy competition at least! The funny thing was that he kept saying before we started that he wouldn't make it through the song and was just going to give up, presumably to lull me into a false sense of security so that he could kick my ass :)

Re:Who cares

[makohund]

>When I said Axel I meant Axel Rose, who must be a tenor too

Yep, that's who I meant too. Axl Rose. Maiden started in the mid 70's and is still putting out albums. Guns N Roses started in the mid 80's, and started to vanish after 94.

>I don't know what it is about the Iron Maiden guy's voice that ticks me off. Maybe I'll get used to it one day.

Yeah, maybe consider giving it a shot. :) I myself didn't really care for the band much when I was younger, based on what few tunes I'd heard. I was a thrash kid (Metallica/Megadeth/Slayer/Anthrax/Testament/etc) and it just didn't catch me, and I didn't like the vocals either. So I understand.

I first got an appreciation for it while playing in a cover band in Japan. They wanted to do a Maiden tune, and picked "The Trooper", which I'd never heard before. I learned it, and it was very fun to play, and I really liked it. Started checking 'em out again, and really liked it this time around. Vocally to me he seems similar to a broadway actor in a play, acting out/singing a story or monologue. That's how I think of it.

>Ya I was talkin about Aint Talkin Bout Love, but the first place that I actually heard that riff was in an Apollo 440 dub remix called Aint Talkin Bout Dub, it's pretty good.

Heh... I'll take your word for it. For some reason that brings to mind "The Fuck Shop" by 2 Live Crew. They sampled the opening lick, and used it in a recurring loop.

> But I do like some solos if they sound good as well as just being technically impressive
> I like the song 'Eruption' which is just pure Van Halen soloing all the way :)

OK, I've got some for ya...

The album Rust in Peace by Megadeth (a thrash/speed metal masterpiece) is one of the best jaw dropping guitar albums ever done, and not just with soloing. A lot of the riffing is as amazing and interesting as any good solo, and there are plenty of those to go around, too. (Songs to check out first are Lucretia, Tornado of Souls, Take No Prisoners, and Hangar 18.) Warning... Dave's vocals can be an acquired taste, too. I dig 'em. Best described as an angry sneer that manages to carry a bit of tune.

>I enjoy classical guitar, and can play stuff like that intro from Classical Gas, a bit of Angie by Davy Graham, some Eric Clapton Unplugged stuff (Tears in Heaven is great). I also started learning a guitar arrangement of The Entertainer, I should go back and re-learn/finish it (I used to be a bit jealous of my sis being able to play it on the piano, even though I'm not that into pianos :p ).

Cool. Other good metal guitar albums:
Testament (Practice What You Preach, The Gathering)
Pantera (Cowboys From Hell, Vulgar Display of Power)

Some more recent metal you might like:
Five Finger Death Punch (The Way of the Fist)
Trivium (The Crusade)

Faves of mine in non-metal genres:
Eric Clapton - Layla (non-unplugged), Crossroads, etc
Dire Straits/Mark Knopfler - Sultans of Swing, others
Stevie Ray Vaughn - Little Wing, Voodoo Chile (Hendrix covers... love Jimi, but Stevie just kills these)
ZZ Top (um... lots of it)
Oysterhead - The Grand Pecking Order (Les Claypool from Primus, Trey Anastasio from Phish, Steward Copeland from The Police)
Bjork - not exactly guitar music, but what the hell. I'm listing it anyway. :)

> The Fire and the Flames rhythm parts as I kinda just play the first rhythm part as fast as I can because it sounds mental, but obviously I was going too fast.

On that note, you should check out the last song on Rock Band... Green Grass & High Tides (by the Outlaws). It's a killer, and a very cool song. Starts out simple, lulling you into a false sense of "hey, this is gonna be easy". :)

Re:Who cares

[somersault]

I shall check out some of those albums :)

Brothers In Arms was actually the first picking type song I learned to play on guitar :) Love Knopfler/Dire Straits!

There's a Steve Ray Vaughn song on Guitar Hero, Pride and Joy, I do love a bit of blues. I don't actually have any Hendrix - the first time I heard Little Wing was actually a cover by the Corrs (my sister's album in case you're wondering :p ) but I love it all the same. So I spose the only time I've heard Hendrix playin is on TV, and Wayne's World =p He is very good, there's a lot of good albums that I just forget to buy.. Led Zeppelin are another glaring gap in my music collection (only have 3 of their songs right now).

I've never really been into Bjork, have only heard 2 or 3 of her songs but they have been quite varied so there probably would be a lot of her stuff that I'd like without even having to 'get used' to it like I did when someone sent me Oceania.. she can obviousy do light hearted stuff like It's Oh So Quiet as well as the more sombre tracks.

Re:Who cares

[makohund]

I consider SRV's Little Wing to be the definitive version. Jimi wrote it as a sweet little song, SRV took it and expanded it into an instrumental blues guitar masterpiece. I think it's one of the best guitar recordings ever done, in any genre. Found it here.

> I've never really been into Bjork, have only heard 2 or 3 of her songs but they have been quite varied so there probably would be a lot of her stuff that I'd like without even having to 'get used' to it

I'm more into her earlier stuff... the first three albums in particular. (Debut, Post, Homogenic.) I actually heard her for the for the first time on Dave Letterman, doing "Bachelorette" from Homogenic. I was stunned, and went and bought every album she'd done up to that point (those three) the very next day. :)

Re:Who cares

[somersault]

That is a great version, and there's some Eric Clapton versions there too which I like. Ordered a few CDs apart from Pantera and Testament. Now that I'm thining about it, my lil bro probably has songs from all those bands anyway, he's really into his metal.. :p

I just watched the Corrs version again and while I suppose it might be a silly question, I wonder what you'd make of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5rVgxmekeM . It's not got any fancy guitar but I think it's a good interpretation of the song anyway. IMO having female vocals and the irish penny flutes and fiddles actually works well :p Pretty haunting. After I found out it was actually a Hendrix song I was like ah, that explains why I liked it more than the other Corrs stuff! :p I think it still ranks as one of my favourite songs ever in fact..

I smell a lawsuit

[jgarra23]

will they sue me if I record a video of myself rocking out to Metallica on Rock Band and post it on youtube?

Obligatory bash.org

[phorm]

As seen here

Metallica is pretty good at following the money. Much better than actually caring about their fans.

Re:Obligatory bash.org

[stretch0611]

The only reason why I logged in was to see if I had any mod points to give you. However, it is obvious I do not so I am limited to a sophomoric "MOD PARENT UP!!!"

Metallic with Napster Lawsuit Guitars

[Dan667]

Hate those sell outs. Bet they sue anyone who tries to play the game without paying them a royalty every time they play a song.

Re:Metallic with Napster Lawsuit Guitars

[Anonymous Coward]

There will be a coin slot in the guitar where you can pay your royalties ;)

Re:Metallic with Napster Lawsuit Guitars

[LandDolphin]

No,

You paid for the rights to play the song when you purchased the game. So play as much as you'd like.

Now, they might have a problem if you started allowing people to download a copy of the game for free over the internet, or started giving away free bootleg copies out of your garage.

Re:Metallic with Napster Lawsuit Guitars

[Dan667]

You missed the sarcasm. Metallica would sell out their grandmothers for $100. Maybe less.

There are all varieties of reason to hate them

[elrous0]

A lot of people are going to point out that they hate Metallica because of the anti-Napster stuff they did in the late 90's. I would like to point out that there are also a lot of disaffected fans from the 80's who hate them for selling out with the black album in the early 90's. Metallica has made so many enemies over the years that they have people hating them NUMEROUS reasons.

Re:There are all varieties of reason to hate them

[NinePenny]

Yeah. Some of my friends started hating them when Justice came out. Some started hating when the Black Album came out. Some for the Napster deal.

I think I have one friend that has stayed with them through it all... and I'm not sure why.

Re:There are all varieties of reason to hate them

[effigiate]

I'll call this one beforehand - Score: 5 Flamebait

Metallica hate is so pervasive that, at this point, it seems "popular" to hate Metallica for any number of dumb reasons. My two biggest complains are:

1. Metallica killed Napster - Did you really expect to be able to freely download any song you like, as easily as you like, forever and ever? Metallica may have been the first major band to bring a lawsuit against Napster, but I woudln't of given Napster another three months before someone else stepped in. And what did we get out of Napster crashing? P2P programs that let you share WAY more than music. You could get games, movies, porno, AND music on the software that popped up after Napster got shut down. I'm probably the only one that thinks this, but I appreciate Metallica getting Napster shut down. Now I can get the same music AND files from torrents.

2. Metallica sold out after (insert album name here) - The album changes after whoever you talk to. They adapted their music as time went on. Would you still want to be listening to the exact same stuff that they were making in 1984? A lot of long-life bands have do this to survive. Zepplin did it, the Stones, Chili Peppers...they all GROW as a band. I hated old Chili Peppers, but I love the new stuff. I wouldn't have bought any of their cds had they not changed their style.

On a side note, I do think that Lars is a little bitch.

Re:There are all varieties of reason to hate them

[Nightspirit]

I think my hatred is more of a generational type thing. As a teen in the 90s, metal was actually pretty mainstream for quite some time with the release of the Black album. Then rap and alternative started to explode and (mainstream) metal started to die. Us metal-heads were looking for one good Metallica album to come out to save the genre and then they cut their hair and released Load; essentially the death kneel for the metal era. Now, I know lots of good metal was being released at the time, but at the time I would have rather heard metal on the radio rather than nirvana for the 1000th time. Then nu-metal came and that's an entirely different story.

Re:There are all varieties of reason to hate them

[Cheile]

1. The reason that Metallica got called out for this was that you can't be the "Friends don't let friends listen to corporate rock!" types and at the same time go around suing people because you're don't have enough gold-plated sports cars. Up until that point they were running the "we're artists in this for the art and our fans" line and that had been their line from the beginning. In other words they got called out for their blatant hypocrisy.

2. You can change your sound as much as you want without chasing after the sound you think will make the most money. Metallica would have made a bubblegum pop song with the Backstreet Boys if they thought it would bring them in a pile of cash. :]

Re:There are all varieties of reason to hate them

[leoboiko]

The point with the Napster thing is that it's extreme hypocrisy, since Metallica became famous in the first place by encouraging fans to pirate cassete tapes. I'll do an one-person act to illustrate:

Old Metallica: We're the metal millitia!! Fuck the system!! Pirate our music!! Stick it to the man!! We'll never make an MTV videoclip!! Whiplash motherfucker!!

New Metallica: Hai guys, did you see our newest videoclip on MTV? Oh and pirating is stealing, play nice and pay for things like a good citizen. "So close, no matter how far / couldn't be much more from the heart <3 "

Change of mind? Perhaps, but it's easy to see how they pissed off the people they tried to attract in the first place.

Re:There are all varieties of reason to hate them

[flibuste]

I would disagree about adapting their music to the time. Everything they pull out sounds like a rehash of Ride The Lightning. This band is done a long time ago already. Plus, they let their celebrity eating their brain cells. That's never good.

Re:There are all varieties of reason to hate them

[bsDaemon]

I hate Metallica because they bitched on Dave Mustaine, and he was their best musician. Megadeth rocks and they just can't stand it. If it weren't for them selling out then they wouldn't be more popular than Megadeth because they suck. a lot.

It wasn't "growing," they didn't do it for the music. It was a commercial plot to make money and get girls with fewer tattoos.

Re:There are all varieties of reason to hate them

[coren2000]

The Black Album was absolutely terrific, anyone who argues this point is silly.

So what that a bunch of metal-heads didn't get another Thrashing and hate "nothing else matters"... the rest of the world got one of the top "rock and roll" albums of all time, and arguably the best ever rock ballad.

Re:There are all varieties of reason to hate them

[snuf23]

They're wankers. The thing was in the 80s they were so proud of their fans for promoting them and made sure to say how they weren't selling out and not an MTV band. Oh they only made a video of "One" because of the message of the song and the existing film footage from Johnny Got His Gun.
And then the next album was full of MTV friendly 3 minutes songs with corresponding pointless videos. Metal lite for their new MTV fans.
I don't really care, I'm sure that the lure of the money would have made me change just the same way had I been in their shoes. I just don't think you can say that they changed due to artistic reasons. They changed because all of a sudden they were able to make a fuckton of money.
They had to change their style to create appeal to more fans. To become more commercial and make more money.
The further insult of the Napster era was that in the old days Metallica gained fans through cassette tape bootlegs being passed around. They themselves made a big point of acknowledging that their early success came from the fans. The fans and methods that enabled them to have any career at all were now being condemned as taking money out of their pockets.
You are right, Lars is a little bitch. A whiny little bitch.

Re:There are all varieties of reason to hate them

[Anonymous Coward]

Teenager: Lets go crash the wild party next door
Thirty-somthing: I'm calling to cops

The difference, the Thirty-something owns a house and is worried about people damaging their property
It's easy to rail against the system until you have something to lose.

Re:There are all varieties of reason to hate them

[cowbutt]

1. Metallica killed Napster - Did you really expect to be able to freely download any song you like, as easily as you like, forever and ever? Metallica may have been the first major band to bring a lawsuit against Napster, but I woudln't of given Napster another three months before someone else stepped in. And what did we get out of Napster crashing? P2P programs that let you share WAY more than music. You could get games, movies, porno, AND music on the software that popped up after Napster got shut down. I'm probably the only one that thinks this, but I appreciate Metallica getting Napster shut down. Now I can get the same music AND files from torrents.

Napster getting sued was pretty much inevitable, but I find it grossly hypocritical for one of the first lawsuits to come from a band whose background was in tape-trading, and which built much of their popularity through the tape-trading network.

Where's the real Guitar Hero?

[Alzheimers]

All this talk about Guitar Heroes -- where's the G3 edition?

-Satriani
-Vai
-Petrucci
-Malmsteen
-Gilbert
-Johnson

These are the REAL Guitar Heroes.

As good as some of the early Metallica tracks were , their reputation with fans is completely shot and TBH their last few albums make them sound washed up and done.

Now, if they made a game where fans could shoot Lars Ulrich in the face with a bazooka, that would probably sell.

Re:Where's the real Guitar Hero?

[jgarra23]

Don't forget Devin Townsend. Not to take away from anyone you listed but he's just that good.

Re:Where's the real Guitar Hero?

[pure_chownage]

Also don't turn a blind eye to Zakk Wylde. I remember hearing one of Zakk's acoustic demo tapes years ago, it totally blew me away. I've also seen quite an impressive video of him playing guitar at school.

"...he would practice playing the guitar as much as 12 hours per day and often would play the guitar almost non-stop between coming home from school and leaving for school the next morning, then sleeping through the school day."

A man with great skill and dedication... and one hell of a beard :P

Re:Where's the real Guitar Hero?

[AdamTrace]

I'm just an average guy, but I've never heard of any of those names.

"Guitar Hero: Metallica" means something to me.

"Guitar Hero: Malmsteen" means nothing to me, and I'd dare say nothing to lots of other people, too.

Re:Where's the real Guitar Hero?

[stewbee]

-Satriani
-Vai
-Petrucci
-Malmsteen
-Gilbert
-Johnson

Guitar Hero can be tough as is. If you start adding these names, it will be nigh impossible!

Re:Where's the real Guitar Hero?

[XxtraLarGe]

GH3 does have "Cliffs of Dover" on it, but nothing from those other guys. As much as I like Satch, Vai, Yngwie F'ing Malmsteen, etc., they're guitarists' guitarists. They don't have broad appeal, and their music is mostly solo. GH is more riff oriented, which is why you get songs like "Hit me with your Best Shot" or "Talk Dirty to Me." Personally, what I find most peculiar is the absence of any Led Zeppelin...

Re:Where's the real Guitar Hero?

[mamono]

You forgot David Gilmour and Tom Morello

Re:Where's the real Guitar Hero?

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm all for a G3 Guitar Hero. I'm not sure I'd ever be able to play Satch or Vai, but I'd love to give it a shot.

Re:Where's the real Guitar Hero?

[OSXCPA]

They never had the mainstream success of some of the other bands, but have put out classic albums. Steve Vai 'Passion and Warfare' is pretty much standard issue to guitar geeks, even if they are of the 'I hate the LA sound of the 80's' school, because it just doesn't get better, or even as good as Steve Vai very often. I highly recommend it. Metallica, and I am a fan, dream of growing up to play like Steve Vai, and I say that with much respect, but absolutely seriously.

Re:Where's the real Guitar Hero?

[MojoStan]

-Satriani
-Vai
-Petrucci
-Malmsteen
-Gilbert
-Johnson

These are the REAL Guitar Heroes.

They also aren't well-known to your average "button guitar" player. Also, in case you didn't know, a REAL Guitar Hero is featured as an unlockable bonus track on Guitar Hero II .

"Yeah, but can he play Buckethead on 'Expert'?" --Stan Marsh, "Guitar Queer-o" episode

Also, for "real" guitar players who have a Comcast box, an early live Buckethead performance is available for free on-demand.

Re:Where's the real Guitar Hero?

[clockwise_music]

While I grew up listening (and playing) to the above guitar heroes, if you want to genuinely hear some new guitar players that will blow your mind, please check out the following:

- Guthrie Govan ("Erotic Cakes" album)

- Greg Howe ("Parallax" album)

- Ron Jarzombek (Spastic Ink)

- Alan Holdsworth (anything, and prepare thyself)

- Brett Garsed (anything)

- Ritchie Kotzen (earlier stuff)

Guitar players of the 21st century.

You've probably already heard Buckethead if you're a guitar hero fan. In my humble opinion, Satriani, Gilbert and Malmsteen haven't moved on from the 90's. They're great, they rock, I love them, but check out the above list and you'll soon see what I mean.

Re:Where's the real Guitar Hero?

[Anonymous Coward]

That's because Malsteem, Vai, et al, are enormously technically talented wankers with no taste and an almost complete inability to write good songs. They're sort of like the offspring of the most full of themselves prog rock band with very technically gifted smooth jazz musicians.

Re:Where's the real Guitar Hero?

[Anonymous Coward]

Malmsteen's a douche and Petrucci is only good alone. Dreamtheater sounds like starcraft music.

How about: Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page

Re:Where's the real Guitar Hero?

[hairyfeet]

What would probably make a good Guitar Hero IMHO since Vai was brought up would be David Lee Roth's "Eat 'em and smile". I caught that show (Vai and Sheenan on the same stage=f*cking amazing!) and what struck me was just how much fun the songs were. The energy,the band,the audience,everybody was just having a ball. It was less like going to a concert and more like going to a giant party. But that is my 02c,YMMV

Re:Where's the real Guitar Hero?

[Anonymous Coward]

Devin who? He's 25 years too late to the party.

RockBand has *old* Metallica

[steeljaw]

I don't like anything Metallica has done since the black album (and yes of course this includes their assault on Napster and Metallica fans). Rockband currently has the following Metallica tracks available:
* Enter Sandman
* Ride the Lightning
* Blackened
* And Justice...

All of their new music has become radio friendly and lost it's edge, so I would be less likely to buy a game that features their newer content...

Re:RockBand has *old* Metallica

[darkhitman]

Oddly enough, I like (parts of) Load, Reload and St. Anger. Something is clearly wrong with me (time to check myself into an asylum), but hey. In any case, I would still prefer more older tracks in the lineup, and my guess is they will be throwing older stuff in there too. Or, at least, I hope... won't be buying it if I can't play Call of the Ktulu and The Thing That Should Not Be.

Re:RockBand has *old* Metallica

[bigstrat2003]

I dunno, Load and Reload had some decent/good songs. Unforgiven II had a beautiful guitar riff which was the sole reason I learned to play guitar. For my money, it's the early Metallica that I can't stand... never did see why anyone gets so worked up about it. The band didn't really get good until the black album, imnsho.

Re:RockBand has *old* Metallica

[steeljaw]

I'm a drummer, beginning with the black album Lars seemed to go with the "Less is More" approach to drumming, you know, the kind of sh*t you expect from AC/DC.. I don't really care how commercialized a band becomes as long as they continue to play to their fans' expectations, and the *new* over-produced and more radio friendly Metallica was like a 180.. And again, Napster dude!!!

Re:RockBand has *old* Metallica

[OSXCPA]

C'mon, Master of Puppets was excellent - but the production sucked. Listen to their 'S&M Live' album (OK, I could do without the orchestra, but otherwise...) and liten to MofP and some of the other older tracks - they are great, and while there is no 'Enter Sandman' until TBA, there's a lot of quality there.

Re:RockBand has *old* Metallica

[bigstrat2003]

Actually, I have S&M, and love the hell out of it... but as a rule, I can't stand any of the older tracks on there. I just plain don't think Metallica was very good before TBA, sorry. Exceptions: Fade to Black and One.

Market non-Saturation?

[RavenofNi]

Didn't we just read that 47,000 people downloaded a Motley Crue song around the first day it was available for GH? That being said, and knowing that even my non gaming friends have a copy of GH, I'd say the markets ripe for more tracks to 'play'.

Obligatory Cartoon Link

[steeljaw]

"Beer Good!"
"Napster Bad!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIuR5TNyL8Y

Too bad they suck

[antifoidulus]

I'm going to Rock Im Park tomorrow and the thing that pisses me off more than anything is that some of my money is going to Metallica. Most overrated band in history.

Another way to "steal" their music

[The Joe Kewl]

This is a feature that MUST be part of this game since it is featuring Metallica:

As you know, (right now) as you play through the Guitar Hero games, your character earns money for playing songs successfully.

There are also purchasable items (songs) in the "in-game" store, but for the Guitar Hero: Metallica, all the songs should just be in there for looks, you never "earn" enough money to buy them......

This is where Neversoft needs to partner with Rockstar Games.
Put some of the Grand Theft Auto gameplay in this game so you can "steal" things (like new songs) from the in-game store.

And when you get caught by the in-game Metallica lawyers, you have to pay them off.

I'm sure this would make both Metallica happy AND the mafIAA happy!

Irony cna be pretty ironic sometimes

[twmcneil]

I'd love it if they put a link to Napster on the game.

What Is the Point?

[morari]

Why release more band-centric Guitar Hero games when World Tour is coming at the end of the year? Why would we want to buy a game based around one band's music when Activision should be focused on actually supporting DLC for World Tour. Guitar Hero is the kind of game that doesn't need multiple installments. It's not a genre where much innovation can be seen from title to title. New songs do not warrant a new game, which is where DLC becomes attractive. World Tour will be introducing many new gameplay elements, so I won't complain there, but these band specific installments have already gotten old and the first of them isn't even out yet. Any band, not matter how great, will make a boring games worth of songs. Besides, does anyone really enjoy swapping discs in and out in order to play varying tunes?

Re:What Is the Point?

[mmkkbb]

Besides, does anyone really enjoy swapping discs in and out in order to play varying tunes?

People like the Singstar series just fine.

Re:What Is the Point?

[LandDolphin]

Band specific games are great.

Obviosuly, I would not expect them to sell nearly as many copies as the main versions. They seem more focused towards fans of that band. So, people that liek the band will buy them, hooray for them, and people that don't like that band will pass whiel they wait for a band they do like to release a game.

As for: Besides, does anyone really enjoy swapping discs in and out in order to play varying tunes?

Do people really like swapping out CD's to listen to different songs for different artists? Sometimes you just want to play nothing but 20 different song in arow from the same band.

No need for "?"

[cupogoodness]

The info was found on an official Activision filing, it's going to happen.

I can see the headlines now

[spazdor]

Gamer plays Guitar Hero at party, more than 40 in attendance, arrested for 'performing a derivative work' via Playstation

Guitar Hero is a Rhythm game not a Guitar game

[Anonymous Coward]

Guitar Hero is a rhythm game all about hitting buttons at the right time, not an actual guitar game about cords and such.
GH should really be played on the drums, but drums are as cool (tm) as a guitar.

Re:Guitar Hero is a Rhythm game not a Guitar game

[pure_chownage]

I can't imagine anything off St.Anger being much of a challenge though... no solos. The songs just won't be broken up enough, they'd be repetitive.

It'd be quite interesting to play "(Anesthesia) - Pulling Teeth" (Yes I know it's a BASS solo. It'd still be fun though)

Re:Guitar Hero is a Rhythm game not a Guitar game

[coren2000]

Guitar Hero is a rhythm game all about hitting buttons at the right time Supermario isn't about jumping on platforms and eating mushrooms... its all about hitting buttons at the right time

Re:Guitar Hero is a Rhythm game not a Guitar game

[Anonymous Coward]

Just as "The Hobbit" is about going there and back

Re:Guitar Hero is a Rhythm game not a Guitar game

[Anonymous Coward]

... and hitting buttons at the right time

*yawn*

[katterjohn]

Talk about Enter Sandman

I can't wait

[Anonymous Coward]

Will there be a monthly fee, will we have to pay per play, or do we just wait for the lawsuit? I forget how the Metallica online music distribution model works exactly.

I guess this version...

[slapout]

...won't have downloadable songs :-)

Guitar Center sells Guitar Hero??

[xanadu113]

Can you believe it? Guitar Center sells Rock Band and Guitar Hero?

Anyone else who plays slightly offended by this? =)

Re:Guitar Center sells Guitar Hero??

[coren2000]

I am offended by all types of enjoyable activities you insensitive clod!

Life should be a no-fun zone.

Re:Guitar Center sells Guitar Hero??

[Anonymous Coward]

Speaking as a real musician (20 years on the french horn) and about 10 on guitar.

No not offended at all, I even own rock band because its damn fun to play with friends.

Napster.. bad...

[xanadu113]

Napster.. baaaaad...
beer.. goooood..
guitar hero.. goooood..
(Anyone else seen that shit? =) )

Re:can we grow up?

[Omestes]

@they suck comments - apparently they're still doing something right if people are still buying their music, merchandise, and concert tickets...

Just because people spend money on it, doesn't mean its good. Ms. Spears sells how many damn albums?

@generic, parroted napster comments - how about i take what you use to make a living and give it away to everyone else for free so you see no revenue; remember, napster was one of the first "mainstream" ways to steal music and few groups, like metallica, actually own and control their music

It didn't mesh with their metal outlaw image very well. You can represent the rebellious metal head generation, AND try to be a nanny at the same time. It was implied hypocrisy. Like if Rage Against the Machine ever held a rally for the GOP, or if Tool started endorsing drug legislation.

@dry, old sell out comments - come on... really? people have said that band sold out every time they released an album. apparently the only way a band cant sell out is if they never move beyond club shows and never record a single album. Remember **this band controls their own music** and they dont answer to "the big bad record label". Get over it.

When you stop making music for music's sake, and start making it only to appeal to the most people, for the most money, you sold out. Yes, there is some level of compromise, but there are limits. When you change sounds ONLY for profit, you can't complain about losing your long time, and hardcore, fans.

Music shouldn't be only about getting rich by milking trends.

Where is the difference between post Load Metallica, and Ms. Spears?

One

[coren2000]

DARKNESS Imprisoning me all that I see, absolute horror I cannot live, I cannot die trapped in myself, body my holding ceeeeellll.. Dudilladuddilada duddilda duddiladada... Dudilladuddilada duddilda duddiladada... Dudilladuddilada duddilda duddiladada... waaaannnwwannnnnn wawannanawawanwnawanallallwanallwnallwnalllawannnalla wannala dududududud dududu du dududud du du duh

Re:can we grow up?

[Anonymous Coward]

@generic, parroted napster comments - how about i take what you use to make a living and give it away to everyone else for free so you see no revenue; how about I have $100mil in the bank and dont give a shit.

Dear lord I hope not.

[Anonymous Coward]

Dear lord I hope not.

Metallica is Irrelevant

[Phoenix666]

I was a Metallica fan back in the day. Hearing Master of Puppets was blissful release from the Top-40 land I grew up in. When Napster came on the scene I downloaded all the bootlegs I could find; Napster was a fan's cornucopia, such as there has not been since. One fellow Metallica fan I downloaded from also had tracks from Plastic People of the Universe, which was one of the weirdest and most interesting bands I'd ever heard.

Then Lars testified that his fans were pirates, and joined the RIAA's jihad against music lovers everywhere. I took out all my Metallica albums and memorabilia and burned them.

There is nothing Metallica can do to get back in my good graces. I'm sure I'm not alone.

Re:Metallica is Irrelevant

[ucblockhead]

I'm right there with you. When I was young, I was camping out in order to get the best tickets. Now I won't spend $1.99 for the guitar hero tracks. I'll never give those fuckers a dime again.

XKCD

[JuzzFunky]

Ha!

Re:can we grow up?

[Chris Burke]

@they suck comments - apparently they're still doing something right if people are still buying their music, merchandise, and concert tickets...

You're right, adults only care about commercial success when deciding whether or not something is good or not.

@generic, parroted napster comments - how about i take what you use to make a living and give it away to everyone else for free so you see no revenue; remember, napster was one of the first "mainstream" ways to steal music and few groups, like metallica, actually own and control their music

Uh-huh. A band that is already filthy stinking rich, and got their big break because they encouraged their fans to spread their music through bootlegging, but now that they've had their taste of uber-bucks they don't want anyone sharing the love? Yeah. I'm real sympathetic here. Cryin' my eyes out.

@dry, old sell out comments - come on... really? people have said that band sold out every time they released an album. apparently the only way a band cant sell out is if they never move beyond club shows and never record a single album. Remember **this band controls their own music** and they dont answer to "the big bad record label". Get over it.

Naw, people didn't start saying that until Master of Puppets, not more than a few said it before And Justice, and it wasn't obvious that they -had- sold out until the Black album. ;)

Activision... Just milking the cash cow

[SMacD]

... till everyone figures out Activision has no actual new ideas, and has to continually rip off the much more innovative Rock Band, by Harmonix (who created Guitar Hero, Guitar Hero 2, and Guitar Hero: Rocks the 80s), as well as these band-specific games, which I have no doubt will turn out to be crap.

I loved the Harmonix GH games, buy GH3 was abysmally bad. I wont buy another. I'll stick with Rock Band from here on out.

a new low for videogames!

[namekuseijin]

And I thought the GTA series was bad enough.

Re:can we grow up?

[drsquare]

Just because people spend money on it, doesn't mean its good. Ms. Spears sells how many damn albums?

Yet Slashdot keeps rolling out the same argument to justify the 'quality' of World of Warcraft and the Nintendo Wii.

in the napster days

[mnbjhguyt]

I remember seeing an interview with Metallica's drummer back in the napster days
"this people are, like, turning our music into a PRODUCT, maaan"
their super packaged box set 'live shit' had just come out...

More Random Bands!

[Wyrd01]

I don't like these themed Guitar Hero releases. If you happen to like the band then I'm sure you're "all over it", but it alienates a lot of other potential customers. It cuts the potential list of consumers down, which in business is not really the goal. A nice random, wide-ranging list of songs would be more generally appealing.

Unless they release "Guitar Hero: Muse"... that my personal "I'd be all over that" GH release.