I posted this sometime ago.. it's a little bit weird having one of those.. it's so morbid, imagine after using it, you put it in your closed, or under the bed, and that thing is so real it feals like you're having sex with a corpse... arggg
.. this might not be usefull to the majority of us but at least it will ease the interface design of the operative systems used in movies... they seem to like that 3d stuff (ex: 3d hacking, 3d viruses, 3d Halle Berry... etc etc)
I might agree that it might be somewhat of a framework... but looking at their schematics i couldn't figure out if it has any pipeline capability, like gstreamer, or even directshow, that so, applications made on top of that, would have only basic funcions (playing, decoding etc). It's also very "Player" oriented.. and a framework should do more that that.. Imagine i want to split a video file in two respective streams (1 for video and the other for audio), then apply a red filter to the video and a reeverb effect to the audio plus a delay.. and then join those streams back but now in a ogg container plus some subtitles... Does this "framework" let me do this? I know gstreamer might.. and directshow too..
Just one short reply... if fedora/redhat dies (i don't think it will happen) this one is surely dead too. I would prefer to have redhat stock instead. Apart from some minor tweaks this guys made to fedora (some png substitutions of the install application, and others) i think they have little merit on what they have done. Seriously, did they bring something new? No, Suse has it, Linspire has it, others have it.. Are they trying to fill a gap in the market? No.. just confusing it a little more, and that's not good for linux..
I agree in the case of the GPL.. but there are limits : imagine i develop an application and then some guy picks it up, and adds some nifty printfs to my code and redistributes it as his own, "nicely" telling it's based in my code.. I know this is somewhat exagerated, but it seems a little bit like this. It's a little bit unfair to those guys over fedora
I use linux all the time.. i'm writing this in a mozilla 1.6 installed in my redhat 9.0 upgraded to fedora through "apt-get update-dist". I use Anjuta as my C++ programming IDE, as it does not bloat the makefiles as Kdeveloper does. I'm also a gnome user as i don't like the QT bloated MOC dependent API, including it's (commercial) license. I trully adore linux as a programming enviroment. Now try and put yourself inside of a MS developer's shoes, and user, and let's stop being mindless and blind linux fanboys, so we can start adressing the real issues of linux facing it's "competitors". That's the only whay it will grow and evolve
And about those massive collection of apps.. there's the problem, too many of them doing the same thing but not enought to get the job done.
Why not make it compatible with all the linux distros around? Like same/etc structure (conf files and init), package compatibility (rpm, apt, tgz, deb, etc), etc, etc. Linux doesn't need windows compatibility, linux needs uniformization, stable libraries, stable and well documented API, a good programming IDE, and less application bloat. Linux needs to draw the attencion of the windows developers, for them to start developing good NATIVE apps for it. Please stop throwing at them the EMACS editor, i might like it.. but a MS Visual Studio user will just laugh at it.
And to be on topic again, the minute i saw "fedora based" i though to myself... naaa! If you guys had based your distro in LFS i would be more sympathetic with your "noble" cause!
I tend to agree to that... i can only say that those games i realy liked most were the ones i bought... a total of 2 games. Poping 50 bucks in a game and then give up on it just after 10 minutes, i'll prefer to take the warez.. give it a ride and then buy the thing if i really enjoyed it... and don't tell me about the demos.. as those only have aprox 10 minutes of game play, and almost the best part of it is in those 10 minutes, to get the attencion of the player
.. like.. "been there done that", and "it's not that impressive".. For crying out loud, that's impressive work guys! I ran it in a ATI 9600 and was impressed.. it seemed very close to DOOM 3 in 100 Kb, the lighting efects, the game play (yes it's good if you think about the 100 Kb) the textures (ok that they are procedural), and the models were great. One of my room colleges in my office had the same attitude and i felt like spanking him for those type of comments.. (;)
I can only make an analogy to the matrix.. those guys messed with that choice crap, and the movies went down the drain... They where wrong.. people don't like choice, only happy endings!
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I posted this sometime ago .. it's a little bit weird having one of those .. it's so morbid, imagine after using it, you put it in your closed, or under the bed, and that thing is so real it feals like you're having sex with a corpse... arggg
All i can tell you is that you define it really well, with all you existencial problems! Only humans do that ..
.... I would fake death more easily !! ;) .. every kids dream ... huh .. wait a minute, i'm no longer a kid !! damn it ...
500 MB???? EHEH .. i still remember when i bought 2 extra Mb for my 386@25Mhz so i could just play Doom1 in protected mode, in a small window ;) ...
... no monolith?
.. this might not be usefull to the majority of us but at least it will ease the interface design of the operative systems used in movies ... they seem to like that 3d stuff (ex: 3d hacking, 3d viruses, 3d Halle Berry... etc etc)
There can be only one?
You haven't seen blade runner have you? It's still there .. alive and kicking ..
yeah .. and all those 10 seconds extra loading time is worth it
... and 0 aliens ;)
I might agree that it might be somewhat of a framework ... but looking at their schematics i couldn't figure out if it has any pipeline capability, like gstreamer, or even directshow, that so, applications made on top of that, would have only basic funcions (playing, decoding etc). It's also very "Player" oriented.. and a framework should do more that that.. Imagine i want to split a video file in two respective streams (1 for video and the other for audio), then apply a red filter to the video and a reeverb effect to the audio plus a delay.. and then join those streams back but now in a ogg container plus some subtitles ... Does this "framework" let me do this? I know gstreamer might .. and directshow too ..
... are neat, but i like media frameworks better. I 'm eagerly waiting for a final (stable api) gtreamer
... DNA tests are already on the way to contradict those pesky and false allegations... He surely must be the father
... or maybe you looking at yourself from the other side ...
Just one short reply ... if fedora/redhat dies (i don't think it will happen) this one is surely dead too. I would prefer to have redhat stock instead. Apart from some minor tweaks this guys made to fedora (some png substitutions of the install application, and others) i think they have little merit on what they have done. Seriously, did they bring something new? No, Suse has it, Linspire has it, others have it .. Are they trying to fill a gap in the market? No .. just confusing it a little more, and that's not good for linux ..
.. but there are limits : imagine i develop an application and then some guy picks it up, and adds some nifty printfs to my code and redistributes it as his own, "nicely" telling it's based in my code .. I know this is somewhat exagerated, but it seems a little bit like this. It's a little bit unfair to those guys over fedora
.. not that short of an answer !
I agree in the case of the GPL
Ok
You might try Anjuta! Also, i might have said that of EMACS .. but it's more powerful than you think (but not for MS Developers >;) )
I use linux all the time .. i'm writing this in a mozilla 1.6 installed in my redhat 9.0 upgraded to fedora through "apt-get update-dist". I use Anjuta as my C++ programming IDE, as it does not bloat the makefiles as Kdeveloper does. I'm also a gnome user as i don't like the QT bloated MOC dependent API, including it's (commercial) license. I trully adore linux as a programming enviroment. Now try and put yourself inside of a MS developer's shoes, and user, and let's stop being mindless and blind linux fanboys, so we can start adressing the real issues of linux facing it's "competitors". That's the only whay it will grow and evolve
.. there's the problem, too many of them doing the same thing but not enought to get the job done.
And about those massive collection of apps
Why not make it compatible with all the linux distros around? Like same /etc structure (conf files and init), package compatibility (rpm, apt, tgz, deb, etc), etc, etc. Linux doesn't need windows compatibility, linux needs uniformization, stable libraries, stable and well documented API, a good programming IDE, and less application bloat. Linux needs to draw the attencion of the windows developers, for them to start developing good NATIVE apps for it. Please stop throwing at them the EMACS editor, i might like it .. but a MS Visual Studio user will just laugh at it.
... naaa! If you guys had based your distro in LFS i would be more sympathetic with your "noble" cause!
And to be on topic again, the minute i saw "fedora based" i though to myself
I tend to agree to that... i can only say that those games i realy liked most were the ones i bought ... a total of 2 games. Poping 50 bucks in a game and then give up on it just after 10 minutes, i'll prefer to take the warez .. give it a ride and then buy the thing if i really enjoyed it... and don't tell me about the demos .. as those only have aprox 10 minutes of game play, and almost the best part of it is in those 10 minutes, to get the attencion of the player
... The whole linux kernel with D and then i'll check it out!
.. like .. "been there done that", and "it's not that impressive" .. For crying out loud, that's impressive work guys! I ran it in a ATI 9600 and was impressed .. it seemed very close to DOOM 3 in 100 Kb, the lighting efects, the game play (yes it's good if you think about the 100 Kb) the textures (ok that they are procedural), and the models were great. One of my room colleges in my office had the same attitude and i felt like spanking him for those type of comments .. (;)
I can only make an analogy to the matrix.. those guys messed with that choice crap, and the movies went down the drain... They where wrong .. people don't like choice, only happy endings!
... I dunno why this has triggered so many bathroom jokes .. And no .. there's no hidden camera pointed at you while you take a dump .. (or is it?).
... na na na naa naaa,
.., but moviegoers should follow!)
na na na naaaaa,
na na na naaa naa naaaa...
(okay this only the rithm of it
QT or GTK?