Well, so much for such a nice device. I won't be speaking about how great this phone is to friends/family anymore. It has become a useless, expensive money grab. Good going Apple.
I believe his point is that given that Microsoft has over a decade of lead way into implementing that 6,000 pages spec and the only ones who will really know the quirks beyond the specs will be, are..., well, Microsoft, they are the only ones who will essentially be in a position of *really* implement the specs.
I agree. I think the keyword here is "long run" which may be what the original poster was referring to. The benefits of doing it the "right" way in the long run is something which managers are unable to (don't want) to comprehend because a lot of them live/work for today and today only.
"the whole reason it's called the "right" way is it's the fastest way to get the bloody job done"
Wrong. Why do I keep hearing this argument? It makes no sense whatsoever. I've heard it from many managers, is that what they teach them? I'm obviously missing something. My experience and common sense tells me that it takes longer to sit down and design a solution using a well thought out process (ie: the "right" way) than it takes to throw together a hack to address the problem quickly.
If the "right" way is the fastest way to get the job done, why wouldn't more people use it? Why would the majority of programmers, always "complain" about having to sacrifice correctness for timeliness. Is the incompetence level _that_ high? I don't think so, I've heard this "complain" from bright programmers.
Think about it. Wake up at the usual time you wake up during a work day and try to paint your house before you leave for work. Assume that you absolutely need to finish the project before you leave for work. How good of a job are you going to do vs doing it on the weekend with a more thought out plan, taking the time to evenly cover all the walls, taking care of covering the floor, furniture, using the right paint, ventilating the rooms properly, letting it dry before you apply a second hand, etc.
The "right" way involves different stages of analysis, design and development which usually take time. Hack jobs exist for a reason and not because programmers didn't realize that "the 'right' way is it's the fastest way to get the bloody job done"!
It has been discussed to death that the wiimote could be the answer for so many overweight gamers (which is a great thing) but how easy is it to damage something (ie: back, arms, neck, tendons, etc) due to prolonged usage of this device? I don't own a wii but how accurate to "real" sports movements is it? Do players have to do unnatural movements at times in order to get things "working"?
We immigrants. We who have left our countries because we see there is no changing the state's corrupted ways. We who see the government and law enforcers step all over our freedom and who cannot be stop because the corruption is many levels deep. We who saw an opportunity for a better life in the industrialized countries and constantly contribute to society in those countries. WE don't want what we left happening here as well.
But I guess that is why so many people from Iran prefer to live in a "civilized" country right? Stop comparing apple to oranges. The whole reason of the outcry here is because we don't want this part of the world becoming like the places we've left.
They can be all that, but if an silly employee with access copies the data to a laptop to bring home, all those wonderful things become irrelevant. Security is as weak as the stupidest operator with access....
I just came back from Yonge & Dundas Square in Toronto where Best Buy setup a tent with xbox360, PS3, and Wii stations amongst other older consoles. I'm not really a hardcore gamer but I just went there to see what the hype was all about (only a few seconds walk from my school).
During my stay I have to admit that I spent most of my time "looking" at the PS3 games. The graphics and animation really caught my eye. The graphics offering by the wii looked pretty much like a previous generation console. However, rather than "looking" at the wii games, I jumped in and tried the wiimote. I can see how that little device is going to invite a whole new generation of gamers. It was fun and easy to use.
In all, like most people,I found that while the PS3 looks way better, the wii is more fun to play with. Now, don't get me wrong, they were given away free PS3s this afternoon every two hours when your name was selected in a raffle and I would have most likely screamed and jumped with excitement had my name been called for one of those PS3s.
The funny thing is that Microsoft, the biggest entity in closed source, wouldn't have invested so much with the Novell deal if they thought of OSS the way this bafoon thinks of it. (I can't believe I just used MS as a pro-oss example, we are living in strange times folks).
Here is a bit of background information on the company using this Chewbacca style defence. KAMIND Associates delivers Microsoft solutions for small business customers. We use a standards methodology in understanding our customer's needs. Our policy is to evaluate the customer requirements and generate a phase plan of action that details the work needed to accomplish the task - fully disclosing all problems and issues.
As part of our service model, we work with customers to develop an integrated IT services plan that solves the customers need and results in long term bottom line savings.
As a locally own small business owner, we are very much aware of the cost of an improper IT solution that does not deliver the productivity gains expected. Our phased approach for small business is a win-win business model. Our customers win by having an efficient solution for the their problem, and we win by delivering the solution on time, on budget and on schedule.
KAMIND Associates specializes using Microsoft technologies for commercial and retail market. These areas of include.
I would personally stay away from any company whose management cannot understand basic copyright regulation and attempts to defend itself with such a nonsense argument as "the software is being given away for free".
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Well, so much for such a nice device. I won't be speaking about how great this phone is to friends/family anymore. It has become a useless, expensive money grab. Good going Apple.
If posts like that makes him want to switch to digg. digg comments will want to make him "switch off his Internet".
Difference is, Google doesn't also create the operating system that 99% of these people use.
I think Microsoft already patented that technique. They'll be hearing from MS lawyers.
Here are the first pictures of this technology
Yes and once again they have wiped their asses with the court papers.
Here is another hilarious one.
I believe his point is that given that Microsoft has over a decade of lead way into implementing that 6,000 pages spec and the only ones who will really know the quirks beyond the specs will be, are..., well, Microsoft, they are the only ones who will essentially be in a position of *really* implement the specs.
Not available for Thailand and parts of Soviet Russia, where as we all know, light receives them.
He might as well have said the answer was 42
I agree. I think the keyword here is "long run" which may be what the original poster was referring to. The benefits of doing it the "right" way in the long run is something which managers are unable to (don't want) to comprehend because a lot of them live/work for today and today only.
"the whole reason it's called the "right" way is it's the fastest way to get the bloody job done"
Wrong. Why do I keep hearing this argument? It makes no sense whatsoever. I've heard it from many managers, is that what they teach them? I'm obviously missing something. My experience and common sense tells me that it takes longer to sit down and design a solution using a well thought out process (ie: the "right" way) than it takes to throw together a hack to address the problem quickly.
If the "right" way is the fastest way to get the job done, why wouldn't more people use it? Why would the majority of programmers, always "complain" about having to sacrifice correctness for timeliness. Is the incompetence level _that_ high? I don't think so, I've heard this "complain" from bright programmers.
Think about it. Wake up at the usual time you wake up during a work day and try to paint your house before you leave for work. Assume that you absolutely need to finish the project before you leave for work. How good of a job are you going to do vs doing it on the weekend with a more thought out plan, taking the time to evenly cover all the walls, taking care of covering the floor, furniture, using the right paint, ventilating the rooms properly, letting it dry before you apply a second hand, etc.
The "right" way involves different stages of analysis, design and development which usually take time. Hack jobs exist for a reason and not because programmers didn't realize that "the 'right' way is it's the fastest way to get the bloody job done"!
No kidding. Thank you for pointing that out. That is why keyboards shouldn't work after a certain number of hours of constant functioning.
Who else thinks Novell mis-underestimated the magnitude of the uproar due to this deal? This was a very bad move.
It has been discussed to death that the wiimote could be the answer for so many overweight gamers (which is a great thing) but how easy is it to damage something (ie: back, arms, neck, tendons, etc) due to prolonged usage of this device? I don't own a wii but how accurate to "real" sports movements is it? Do players have to do unnatural movements at times in order to get things "working"?
We immigrants. We who have left our countries because we see there is no changing the state's corrupted ways. We who see the government and law enforcers step all over our freedom and who cannot be stop because the corruption is many levels deep. We who saw an opportunity for a better life in the industrialized countries and constantly contribute to society in those countries. WE don't want what we left happening here as well.
Since when should the "freedom" of misinforming people be tolerable?
But I guess that is why so many people from Iran prefer to live in a "civilized" country right? Stop comparing apple to oranges. The whole reason of the outcry here is because we don't want this part of the world becoming like the places we've left.
What is actually news is that a girl submitted this!
"Since when exactly does every little action by Novell employees deserve an article at Slashdot?"
Exactly? I'd say 03:37 PM -- Thursday November 02 2006. The moment we learned Novell was about to sell its soul and add the community as desert.
They can be all that, but if an silly employee with access copies the data to a laptop to bring home, all those wonderful things become irrelevant. Security is as weak as the stupidest operator with access....
I just came back from Yonge & Dundas Square in Toronto where Best Buy setup a tent with xbox360, PS3, and Wii stations amongst other older consoles. I'm not really a hardcore gamer but I just went there to see what the hype was all about (only a few seconds walk from my school).
During my stay I have to admit that I spent most of my time "looking" at the PS3 games. The graphics and animation really caught my eye. The graphics offering by the wii looked pretty much like a previous generation console. However, rather than "looking" at the wii games, I jumped in and tried the wiimote. I can see how that little device is going to invite a whole new generation of gamers. It was fun and easy to use.
In all, like most people,I found that while the PS3 looks way better, the wii is more fun to play with. Now, don't get me wrong, they were given away free PS3s this afternoon every two hours when your name was selected in a raffle and I would have most likely screamed and jumped with excitement had my name been called for one of those PS3s.
or voip softphones
The funny thing is that Microsoft, the biggest entity in closed source, wouldn't have invested so much with the Novell deal if they thought of OSS the way this bafoon thinks of it. (I can't believe I just used MS as a pro-oss example, we are living in strange times folks).
Here is a bit of background information on the company using this Chewbacca style defence.
KAMIND Associates delivers Microsoft solutions for small business customers. We use a standards methodology in understanding our customer's needs. Our policy is to evaluate the customer requirements and generate a phase plan of action that details the work needed to accomplish the task - fully disclosing all problems and issues.
As part of our service model, we work with customers to develop an integrated IT services plan that solves the customers need and results in long term bottom line savings.
As a locally own small business owner, we are very much aware of the cost of an improper IT solution that does not deliver the productivity gains expected. Our phased approach for small business is a win-win business model. Our customers win by having an efficient solution for the their problem, and we win by delivering the solution on time, on budget and on schedule.
KAMIND Associates specializes using Microsoft technologies for commercial and retail market. These areas of include.
I would personally stay away from any company whose management cannot understand basic copyright regulation and attempts to defend itself with such a nonsense argument as "the software is being given away for free".