This whole argument regarding selling cds is pointless when taken in context.
THIS IS A RELEASE CANDIDATE. It's not the finished product and doesn't pretend to be. Mandrake isn't boxing up the RC1 and the final version won't be boxed for months. Bring these arguments back up when the full version hits the shelves.
The funny thing is, girls tend to be attracted to men they find 'mysterious', 'shy' or 'quiet' (see mysterious). All you have to do to be mysterious is strike up a conversation then let her do all the talking. If she likes you and she gets comfortable just let her yak all night while you throw in a 'uh huh' or 'really?' once in awhile. It's really easy to feign interest with someone who loves to hear their own voice.:)
I believe the article stated that at least one of the systems was NOT directly connected to the internet.
Most likely this scenario was the same as the one at TI here in Dallas a few weeks ago. Some nimrod from marketing or somewhere in the company brought their laptop home, got it infected, and brought it back to infect the network. Fact is, admins can't control absolutely everything in their networks.
It's surprising to me that during this latest ballooning Microsoft crisis, Linux and Macintosh aren't getting more press. They can always step up and say "Ha Ha, this isn't happening to us."
The shell script INCLUDES the driver and if the one it comes with isn't suitable, it'll compile one. It IS kernel related. It clearly says it'll taint the kernel when it's inserted, hence it's a kernel module.
Anyway it is wacky to upgrade the kernel. Some people do it for fun, some do it to provide extra functionality, but the majority of us just have no need for it. And those of us who do upgrade the kernel, distros like Redhat provide an easy way to handle that. Other distros make you do it yourself, or reboot after you download and install or whatever, but basically it's not 100% necessary for everyone to upgrade the kernel.
You don't ever update the entire OS, and if you do, that's called a distro upgrade and you feed your box cds for 15 minutes and it's done. Debian users issue some mystical apt-get command and gentoo people can do the same, but most distros are cd-based for the common installs.
Well, I did my part today. I installed mandrake 9.1 on the less crappy of the two Linux boxen at the Fry's in Garland. Actually, the box really isn't that bad, a little 1.1ghz Duron. I didn't have the time nor the patience to run the installer on the other box, plus I wanted to see people's reactions.
Lots of people were standing around watching when I was playing Frozen Bubble. Two kids ran straight for the keyboard when I walked away. I think Mandrake might be a hit on the floor model, but woe to whoever buys one of those and gets home with Thiz on it. It's ok though because I didn't configure Mandrake for the crap PCTel modem in that box, and Thiz has a post-install module script that inserts the kernel module driver. So at least they can dial out.
I don't know what drivers you're talking about specifically but that's a vendor issue. Nvidia is taking nice steps these days with a little shell script that takes care of business for you. It took them about 3 or 4 years to get it done but at least they did it, and if their tech for the installer is opensourced, then other vendors can do the same. It's just an sh NV* away anytime you change kernels or anything else wacky.
"The reason lindows is such a big deal is it is for the very poor people who could not pay the windows tax."
Lindows taxes you just as much, if not more, than Windows does. The clieck-and-rob warehouse is one example of their exploitative business model. Most people will never know that they're one big rpm or apt-get away from free software...and it's a damn shame.
Linux IS ready for the desktop, maybe not yours or your boss's or your granny's, but it's ready. It'll probably never be 'ready' for the unwashed masses because all they are trained to want is a Windows clone without the huge price tag.
I might need to go check out the Irving store, I only go to the one in Garland off NW Highway. Don't be surprised if you see one of these Thiz Linux boxen running Mandrake 9.1 soon.:) I'm gonna go 'fix' one.
Photoshop on Linux shouldn't be too much of a struggle, Adobe already has a percentage of the codebase running on Unix anyway. When I worked for Glamour Shots years and years ago, we had SGI machines running Photoshop 3.05. Sure, it was a long time ago, but I bet Adobe still has one eye on their serious users.
That's why I quit using Photoshop years ago and got hooked on Fireworks. If the Macromedia suite of tools ever gets ported or wine'd, now that'll be a story. Dreamweaver, Fireworks and Flash on *nix...ahhhhh such a sweet dream.
Ultimately what people trying something new need is support. This applies to damn near anything in life. The fear of the unknown and the 'oh shit, what do I do now' feeling are 2 things people don't like and will usually hold them back.
Now, if you can be the friendly neighborhood Linux geek, people around you may get turned on to a good OS. They may require some support, they may ask (stupid to you) questions, but that's the way it goes. You just might learn something if you're not careful.*
MacOS has always been more secure than Windows for any number of reasons. There was a story a long, long time ago (you low-numbered users may recall) that detailed the Army switching to MacOS for their webserver to improve security. Hard to hack something that doesn't allow any kind of remote access or shell access.
I'm lucky enough to live in a big city, so when an interesting indy film comes out I have 3 theatres within 5 miles to choose from. One (or maybe two) of them let you 'get your drink on' while you're watching. Definitely novel, now if only I could smoke...
At any rate the indie film movement is where it's at. Bully, Tape, American Mullet (hilarious, got to talk to the director that night), City of Ghosts, Cowboy Bebop the Movie...man the list goes on and on.
I can already picture you in a Mu-mu, letting the little dipping bird hit the Y key over and over for you while you manipulate things far away with a broomstick.
Hell no! I just bought a Mitsubishi Evo 8 and there's no way I'm riding a bicycle to work. Plus I live in Dallas, work in downtown, and downtown is full of creeps begging for change (seriously, it's getting to be an epidemic). I'd much rather drive than walk or ride a bike.
Don't get me wrong, I've ridden the train to work and walked from the station. A few weeks of that was enough to send me to the dealership. Dealing with 100 degrees plus temperature isn't any fun either.
Maybe if I was living in some kinda West Coast wonderland, where summer isn't hot and winter isn't cold, I'd change my tune. Then again, there's the Evo 8. Who knows.
IIRC, Canadian bandwidth was government subsidized, wasn't it? Sure makes things alot cheaper when someone else already paid for it. The gov't should consider it's ROI in skilled workers, not dollar signs, because ultimately skilled workers result in dollar signs and generate taxable income. Since taxes up north are so much higher than they are here in the US it doesn't surprise me that your government could afford to pay for bandwidth.
OTOH, our country could too, easily, but considers ROI the old fashioned way: when will we get our money back. Plus, our knuckleheaded president and advisors want to go pick fights with anyone that looks suspicious and that's costing us out the yin-yang also. Maybe in 50 years when the hydrogen economy gets fired up (no pun intended) alot of this Middle East crap will wind down, but for now, it's bleeding us dry in more ways than one.
Anyway, consider yourself lucky. Let me know how your monthly transfer rate is treating you.
Don't forget that Lucas did this also with the original Star Wars Trilogy. The first set of the re-release was THX enhanced and cleaned up a little, the second set was THX, cleaned, and included some dubious edits and new scenes (including . I'm pretty sure he started the whole 'release it then release it again with more stuff' trend that everyone's doing now.
I saw Charlies Angel's 1.5 at Blockbuster yesterday. How asinine.
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The Microsoft family is similar to the Osbourne family. XP is pretty much Ozzy.
Ah yes, the famous Giant stickers. The first one I spotted was in a parking garage in Oklahoma City. All the work of Shepherd Faery and friends.
I met Faery one time, he's a really nice guy. Older and shorter than one would expect, but hey, that's life.
This whole argument regarding selling cds is pointless when taken in context.
THIS IS A RELEASE CANDIDATE. It's not the finished product and doesn't pretend to be. Mandrake isn't boxing up the RC1 and the final version won't be boxed for months. Bring these arguments back up when the full version hits the shelves.
This is shockingly true and simple, well put.
:)
The funny thing is, girls tend to be attracted to men they find 'mysterious', 'shy' or 'quiet' (see mysterious). All you have to do to be mysterious is strike up a conversation then let her do all the talking. If she likes you and she gets comfortable just let her yak all night while you throw in a 'uh huh' or 'really?' once in awhile. It's really easy to feign interest with someone who loves to hear their own voice.
I believe the article stated that at least one of the systems was NOT directly connected to the internet.
Most likely this scenario was the same as the one at TI here in Dallas a few weeks ago. Some nimrod from marketing or somewhere in the company brought their laptop home, got it infected, and brought it back to infect the network. Fact is, admins can't control absolutely everything in their networks.
It's surprising to me that during this latest ballooning Microsoft crisis, Linux and Macintosh aren't getting more press. They can always step up and say "Ha Ha, this isn't happening to us."
The shell script INCLUDES the driver and if the one it comes with isn't suitable, it'll compile one. It IS kernel related. It clearly says it'll taint the kernel when it's inserted, hence it's a kernel module.
:p
Anyway it is wacky to upgrade the kernel. Some people do it for fun, some do it to provide extra functionality, but the majority of us just have no need for it. And those of us who do upgrade the kernel, distros like Redhat provide an easy way to handle that. Other distros make you do it yourself, or reboot after you download and install or whatever, but basically it's not 100% necessary for everyone to upgrade the kernel.
You don't ever update the entire OS, and if you do, that's called a distro upgrade and you feed your box cds for 15 minutes and it's done. Debian users issue some mystical apt-get command and gentoo people can do the same, but most distros are cd-based for the common installs.
Stop backpedaling, you never had a valid point.
Well, I did my part today. I installed mandrake 9.1 on the less crappy of the two Linux boxen at the Fry's in Garland. Actually, the box really isn't that bad, a little 1.1ghz Duron. I didn't have the time nor the patience to run the installer on the other box, plus I wanted to see people's reactions.
Lots of people were standing around watching when I was playing Frozen Bubble. Two kids ran straight for the keyboard when I walked away. I think Mandrake might be a hit on the floor model, but woe to whoever buys one of those and gets home with Thiz on it. It's ok though because I didn't configure Mandrake for the crap PCTel modem in that box, and Thiz has a post-install module script that inserts the kernel module driver. So at least they can dial out.
I don't know what drivers you're talking about specifically but that's a vendor issue. Nvidia is taking nice steps these days with a little shell script that takes care of business for you. It took them about 3 or 4 years to get it done but at least they did it, and if their tech for the installer is opensourced, then other vendors can do the same. It's just an sh NV* away anytime you change kernels or anything else wacky.
"The reason lindows is such a big deal is it is for the very poor people who could not pay the windows tax."
Lindows taxes you just as much, if not more, than Windows does. The clieck-and-rob warehouse is one example of their exploitative business model. Most people will never know that they're one big rpm or apt-get away from free software...and it's a damn shame.
*sigh* Not this tired old argument again.
Linux IS ready for the desktop, maybe not yours or your boss's or your granny's, but it's ready. It'll probably never be 'ready' for the unwashed masses because all they are trained to want is a Windows clone without the huge price tag.
I might need to go check out the Irving store, I only go to the one in Garland off NW Highway. Don't be surprised if you see one of these Thiz Linux boxen running Mandrake 9.1 soon. :) I'm gonna go 'fix' one.
Judging by your post, I wouldn't ascertain that you were familiar with the assembly or content of American English dictionaries.
Photoshop on Linux shouldn't be too much of a struggle, Adobe already has a percentage of the codebase running on Unix anyway. When I worked for Glamour Shots years and years ago, we had SGI machines running Photoshop 3.05. Sure, it was a long time ago, but I bet Adobe still has one eye on their serious users.
That's why I quit using Photoshop years ago and got hooked on Fireworks. If the Macromedia suite of tools ever gets ported or wine'd, now that'll be a story. Dreamweaver, Fireworks and Flash on *nix...ahhhhh such a sweet dream.
For the hair-splitters, make that 'doesn't allow any kind of remote administration'.
Ultimately what people trying something new need is support. This applies to damn near anything in life. The fear of the unknown and the 'oh shit, what do I do now' feeling are 2 things people don't like and will usually hold them back.
:)
Now, if you can be the friendly neighborhood Linux geek, people around you may get turned on to a good OS. They may require some support, they may ask (stupid to you) questions, but that's the way it goes. You just might learn something if you're not careful.*
*stolen from the Fat Albert tagline
...and being based on *BSD doesn't hurt either.
MacOS has always been more secure than Windows for any number of reasons. There was a story a long, long time ago (you low-numbered users may recall) that detailed the Army switching to MacOS for their webserver to improve security. Hard to hack something that doesn't allow any kind of remote access or shell access.
I'm lucky enough to live in a big city, so when an interesting indy film comes out I have 3 theatres within 5 miles to choose from. One (or maybe two) of them let you 'get your drink on' while you're watching. Definitely novel, now if only I could smoke...
At any rate the indie film movement is where it's at. Bully, Tape, American Mullet (hilarious, got to talk to the director that night), City of Ghosts, Cowboy Bebop the Movie...man the list goes on and on.
Hey, you stole that from Ogre Battle, didn't you?
Everytime you conquer a town..."Liberation! yayyyyy"
I can already picture you in a Mu-mu, letting the little dipping bird hit the Y key over and over for you while you manipulate things far away with a broomstick.
:)
Simpsons humor.
"and GET OUT OF YOUR CAR."
Hell no! I just bought a Mitsubishi Evo 8 and there's no way I'm riding a bicycle to work. Plus I live in Dallas, work in downtown, and downtown is full of creeps begging for change (seriously, it's getting to be an epidemic). I'd much rather drive than walk or ride a bike.
Don't get me wrong, I've ridden the train to work and walked from the station. A few weeks of that was enough to send me to the dealership. Dealing with 100 degrees plus temperature isn't any fun either.
Maybe if I was living in some kinda West Coast wonderland, where summer isn't hot and winter isn't cold, I'd change my tune. Then again, there's the Evo 8. Who knows.
You ever smell a fish before? You ever smell a woman's..... ah who am I kidding, this is /.
IIRC, Canadian bandwidth was government subsidized, wasn't it? Sure makes things alot cheaper when someone else already paid for it. The gov't should consider it's ROI in skilled workers, not dollar signs, because ultimately skilled workers result in dollar signs and generate taxable income. Since taxes up north are so much higher than they are here in the US it doesn't surprise me that your government could afford to pay for bandwidth.
OTOH, our country could too, easily, but considers ROI the old fashioned way: when will we get our money back. Plus, our knuckleheaded president and advisors want to go pick fights with anyone that looks suspicious and that's costing us out the yin-yang also. Maybe in 50 years when the hydrogen economy gets fired up (no pun intended) alot of this Middle East crap will wind down, but for now, it's bleeding us dry in more ways than one.
Anyway, consider yourself lucky. Let me know how your monthly transfer rate is treating you.
Don't forget that Lucas did this also with the original Star Wars Trilogy. The first set of the re-release was THX enhanced and cleaned up a little, the second set was THX, cleaned, and included some dubious edits and new scenes (including . I'm pretty sure he started the whole 'release it then release it again with more stuff' trend that everyone's doing now.
I saw Charlies Angel's 1.5 at Blockbuster yesterday. How asinine.