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Mandrake 9.2 RC1
RabidChipmunk writes "Mandrake 9.2RC1 is out. Go get it with bit-torrent and speed up my download. I like the idea that posting to Slashdot could actually speed up a download. It seems so wrong." If you're on a slow pipe, don't underestimate the throughput of the postal system. Mark Walker writes "Mandrake Linux 9.2 RC1 is appearing on mirrors as I type this. We're currently downloading it from Mandrake, for http://www.budgetlinuxcds.com."
The following message was presented by http://www.budgetlinuxcds.com for all your budget linux cds!
"Mandrake Linux 9.2 RC1 is appearing on mirrors as I type this. We're currently downloading it from Mandrake, for http://www.budgetlinuxcds.com."
I'm sorry, but this is a blatant advert. Why did the editors include that?
--matt from http://www.budgetlinuxcds.com
Go to http://www.budgetlinuxcds.com
Thats right folks, http://www.budgetlinuxcds.com
Don't forget, http://www.budgetlinuxcds.com
No content in the links....just a link to the .tor's and some cd seller. Hello editors?
No more Micro$oft bashing from me. Its like bashing at the special olympics.
are there any previews of this? Screenshots?
Used mandrake few years ago, it was too bloated for my taste but I'd recommend it to anyone willing to try linux.
"It seems so wrong"...but it feels so right!
Try the Burst! client. It is great.
RC1 = Release Candidate #1
Usually followed by RC2 etc ...
I know Mandrake absolutely rocks, but isn't this a bit to much, making a /. story out of the first RC ??
echo '[q]sa[ln0=aln80~Psnlbx]16isb572CCB9AE9DB03273snlbxq' |dc
What's new with Mandrake in this release? I didn't see anything in the story brief and I am too lazy to search for the info. I don't follow this distro (Im a RedHat user) but I would like to know what warrants a RC release story on the front of Slashdot. Is there some sort of whizbang feature that I don't know I need to have? Enlighten me!
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
do it do it do it doi plz
Dont just "steal" Linux, join the club and help pay for development of future versions of Linux Mandrake.
This company is in serious financial trouble right now and they NEED our help, so if you download and like Mandrake please join the club! By joining the club you are helping yourself, you are going to get better higher quality software so consider it an investment in your own future.
If you use Linux, please help development of Autopac
I have to say that after trying all of them (Red Hat, Mandrake, Debian, Gentoo) that only Gentoo really seemed to be a power-user distribution. Course that means you spend more time fixing than getting done, but boy is it fast once you get the system up and running.
If you're on a slow pipe, don't underestimate the throughput of the postal system.
"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with back-up tapes." -Linus
-Ab
Nothing fails quite like prayer.
All three torrents are working fine for me.
However, the second and third torrents do not have any seeds. The second only has 0.409 distributed copies, and the third only has 0.364. The first one, however, has eight seeds and 2.983 distributed copies.
This has been out for ages. I would have played with it over a week ago but I couldn't face grabbing ISOs over a 56k line :-)
Actually, I'd just be finishing about now...
"'I pass the test,' she said. 'I will diminish, and go into the West, and remain Galadriel.'"
- JRR Tolkien.
So for home use - Mandrake has always been the sweet spot - excellent NTFS support out of the box as well just generally very user friendly interface... not the heavyweight server backend that other distros are... My 2 cents...
The second and third each have one seed now. The first has ten seeds.
I mean, I thought jigdo and dselect were confusing, but this is in a class of its own.
Changelog is here: http://www3.mandrakelinux.com/en/92beta.php3
Corrections from beta1 include:
- Rpmdrake now functional
- Upgrade from former versions now fully handled
- New windows are now conveniently centered
Urpmi and rpmdrake still complain about missing key. This issue should be fixed in the next beta.
Improvements:
- First version of Netprofile, the new network profiles manager designed for users who connect to multiple networks. Feedback is highly requested for this newly introduced feature.
- Complete rewrite of userdrake (user management) in Gtk2
- New bootsplash (graphical boot) with graphical design not completed
- Improved localization
- New font support for Indian
- Enhanced drakTermServ (terminal server configurator).
New software versions:
- KDE 3.1.3
- GNOME 2.3.5
- Evolution 1.4.4
- Openldap 2.1.22
- kerberos5 1.3
We're supposed to bitch endlessly about how this is an advertisement.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
--
the strongest word is still the word "free"
Are you a retard. That saying was around long before Linus stole his first line of code from AT&T labs.
Retard.
This only goes to show that you really are 13 and live in your parents basement.
RacerX, WohUnknownToSpeedWasActuallyHisOlderBrotherRexWhoR anAwayYearsAgo.
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
Put all the ISOs and the md5 in one freaking torrent!
I'm getting a measly 26kb/s off bittorrent. I thought it was supposed to be fast? I'm on a 10Mbit line, so it ain't my pipe that's slow. Will it speed up when more people start downloading?
Does everything include nothing?
Linux is open source, its not a "product" its code. You pay for the development of the code, you dont pay for a license to run the prooduct.
You arent helping the open source movement or mandrake by buying from a store, they make more money when you pay them directly and you pay alot less money. Also its a more stable form of income for you to subscribe considering they open source they dont make money from license fees, so you have to support the developers.
If you use Linux, please help development of Autopac
So what does this story have to do with Apple!?
If you guys are gonna run a mac site you need to run Apple stories!
(for the humor impaired, that was tongue in cheek)
From news.com.com
Linkage
Looks like they have ACPI support!
I can't say I like these leech-cd companies very much. Even when they donate to the projects, it's still at the cost of a direct lost sale that would have supported them a lot more.
If you care enough about a project to want it on a professionally replicated CD, you should at least be willing to buy it from an official outlet.
Signed,
An Official Outlet
If the /. editors keep this up, Slashdot will loose its reputation for only reporting on important social issues and touching human-interest stories!
Yes if you want to support Mandrake give them money.
But if you want to support the various apps and projects give them money directly.
I think the work done on gnome, kde and X are more likey important to a typical user.
If you want that to improve put your money there, not on the guys making a distribution.
So did budgetlinuxcds pay for the advert, or is Timothy as lame as the trolls say?
Open them in notepad and print them. They're fun to look at and if you stare long enough, you'll see things.
But Red Hat sounds like it's a product of communism !
In Soviet America the banks rob you!
I guess the "hurtling down the highway" part is where you get the bandwidth. A station wagon full of tapes sitting in the driveway is just storage space.
--
the strongest word is still the word "free"
I don't follow this distro (Im a RedHat user) but I would like to know what warrants a RC release story on the front of Slashdot.
I don't follow your posts, but I would like to know what warrants a comment like yours on a story you don't even think should be on the front page of Slashdot.
Seriously, some people simply just want to know when a new Mandrake comes out (even if it is a pre-final release). If you don't care for the story, just ignore it. I wouldn't say your comment was un-insightful. Just maybe a tad unnecessary.
-- Kircle
How do you check stats like this with BitTorrent?
Mod parent down.
What karma whoring. I have never heard this quote attributed to Linus. The source of it is somewhat sketchy, but it surely wasn't Linus.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
Put all the ISOs and the md5 in one freaking torrent!
I value democracy but I also happen to speak French. Therefore, my distro of choice is one which is fully translated in my own language, unlike Red Hat which is quite bastardized when installed in french.
So, please stop bashing others because they don't think the way you do...
Democracy should not be imposed upon anybody.
subject says it all
I browse at +5 Flamebait- moderation for all or moderation for none.
This has been out for ages.
/torrent
Index of
Icon Name Last modified Size Description[DIR] Parent Directory
[] 9.2rc1.md5sums.asc.torrent 27-aou-2003 16:40 157
[] MandrakeLinux-9.2rc1-CD1.i586.iso.torrent 27-aou-2003 16:29 51K
[] MandrakeLinux-9.2rc1-CD2.i586.iso.torrent 27-aou-2003 16:34 51K
[] MandrakeLinux-9.2rc1-CD3.i586.iso.torrent 27-aou-2003 16:36 51K
Take a good look at the dates.
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The last time I tried linux mandrake was the 8.0 series back when I just got linux. I guess I can't really be off topic since there is _no_ topic. ... It took me a little over 3 days and I got my system back to normal operation. :)
The one thing I did like about mandrake is the usablity. I found it easy and "fun" if you would call it to use. Now I ran it on a 166MMX with 128mb of RAM. Memory wise mandrake wasn't too bad, but CPU wise the system would just sit there almost "frozen" at 100% CPU forever. Then when I installed 9.0 it was so bad I gave up and tried Debian. When I did this I was lost as a motherfuck since Mandrake babyed me so much. I actually had to edit confs and shit
oh , I guess there was no topic and I thought I would put my 2cents in about drake
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So why don't you give an example of funny, so we can all bask in your inspirational genius... Take you time.. I'm sure you can think of something that will have everyone rolling.
I'd say the rationale of announcing a first RC is along the lines of letting people who use Mandrake know they should start going out to test it, because the next release is almost ready.
The more -RC testers, the more system configurations it gets tested on, the more bugs reported (and hopefully fixed!) prior to release. I think Slashdot is doing its job nicely by reporting this.
Usinng Mandrake myself, I'll be happy just to get incremental upgrades on all the distro-bundled software I use (galeon, mozilla, OpenOffice, etc), regardless of whiz-bang new things.
The ability to do that is all built-in to the BitTorrent protocol. You just need a client which doesn't suck.
On Windows, I use this. I'm sure you can find equivalent clients for other operating systems with a quick Google search.
suspicious.
plus I just downloaded beta2 and am about to burn the iso's. ffs.
...when it's masquerading as journalism.
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
It means that, among the people downloading that file, they have only 40% of the full file. Since nobody has a complete copy, the torrent dies.
Many in the Mandrake community help by sending in bug reports during the RC process. It's important that we know when this process begins.
I for one appreciate this story.
The race isn't always to the swift... but that's the way to bet!
Also, Mandrake is probably the easiest for Linux Newbs, so it's always good to see new developments. I don't know if it warrants slashdot frontpage, but hey, it's a slow news day =)
That the console (ctrl+alt+f1) now has a picture of tux in the background.
I agree, cannot get Mandrake to function properly. Won't support mozilla or Java. Runs blazingly slow, did they ship it with a built in virus?
retard!
with the blatant advert in that post I am wondering if they paid for the post?
Hrm.. that might be a new marketing angle from slashdot..
News for nerds, stuff that people paid 'us' for 'you' to look at.
anime+manga together at last.. in real time.
We would like to thank all those who are already contributing to the beta testing process and we invite everyone to participate in 9.2's development. To make sure testing the next Mandrake is a pleasing experience, Beta 2 include new versions of software.
Corrections from beta1 include:
- Rpmdrake now functional
- Upgrade from former versions now fully handled
- New windows are now conveniently centered
Urpmi and rpmdrake still complain about missing key. This issue should be fixed in the next beta.Improvements:
New software versions:
In short, they don't say much about it. Maybe somebody's already bittorrented it and will give us a +5 informative review? Or hasn't and will give us a +5 funny guess?
Sig:Why copyright isn't a fundamental human right
I wasn't "dissin'" Mandrake, I was curious why an RC was a good story for the homepage of Slashdot. I was hoping that it was something really cool they failed to mention in the story brief. From reading the changelog posted, I guess there really wasn't anything to mention. Just another distro upgrade to inflate the version number, not that there is anything wrong with that -- RedHat does that every 3 to 6 months.
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
I don't get these types of posts. First its as if there's a presumption that Linux should be hard to use in order to be taken seriously. Then there seems to be the insinuation that because its easy(er) to use its somehow lost the 'power' of other less user friendly distributions.
I'd be curious to hear what exactly are the lacking features? I've been using Linux since 1998 and tried quite a few distro's before deciding on Mandrake (Redhat, Debian, Caldera *long before SCO*, FreeBSD, Gentoo, etc). They all function basically the same. My desktop has always been Blackbox, bash is set and gcc is standard.
If your don't like Mandrakes configuration tools you've got all the standard tools: XFree86configuration, Netconf, Vi. I'm not sure of a single package that you can get on another distro that you can't on Mandrake and you can certainly compile anything else you'd like.
To me Mandrake is simple a better thought out distribution, but with all the flexibility of a Linux distribution it can be as full featured or as limited as you'd like.
Quack, quack.
They are going to stay for about 20 years at least. Oil reserves a key factor controling world economy.
Only FYI.
BSD licensed software can't be stolen....
Back in '93 or '95 I just to use Slackware for every thing but then I realized how difficult is to realy UPGRADE a Slackware system (I think grat advances have been made in this respect with new aditions to the pkg system). And they I fell in love with sys V init scripts. That now I don't seem to like anything with out it.
Slackware it's a creat for hackers and stuff but if that's the case why not just use gentoo ?
Debian and RedHat are very good for production servers and is fairly easy to uptade them and keep them current.
BSD licensed software can't be stolen....
like the idea that posting to Slashdot could actually speed up a download. It seems so wrong.
Actually, it speeds up the download counter in the hosting site.
Just about now?
With a bit of luck, you would be in the nick of time to watch the last few megabytes of your download slow down, stall, and then eventually get a timeout due to a slashdotting.
Don't forget to pay your Dues to SCO! ;)
Red Hat is for people who hate Windows, FreeBSD is for people who love Unix.
www.putertech.net
Thief!
Please don't use the term "steal Linux," as it implies that anyone who potentially downloads it is a thief.
Yeah but the RIAA says anyone who downloads an mp3 is a thief, I was making a point.
t is very insulting and moreover an incorrect term to use in this context.
Yes I know it is insulting, thats why I picked that word because it seems like people equate downloading with stealing moreso than freeloading or sharing.
Even then, the company knew what it was getting into when it decided to try and sell a product that could be given away freely, so a "freeloader" in the traditional sense it not necessarily abusing the system.
They arent selling a product they are selling services. Mandrake is a services company, you pay for the code not the product.
That said, I've purchased two Mandrake retail products (@ USD70 each) in the last couple years. I'm not very social and clubs are too touchy-feely for me.
yeah thanks for supporting walmart, Mandrake prolly only gets half the money they could get if you joined the club.
If you use Linux, please help development of Autopac
i have used drake since 7.0. i have bought 7.0, 7.2, 8.0, and 9.0 so feel that leeching an iso or two is not horrible. however, are they still viable? i love it. i can just use it like a mind numbed idiot, or use it like a geek, and not have to worry. and urpmi is awesome. but with RH snarfing up most of the server biz, and suse seeming to get most of the rest of the press, is drake commercially viable. deb, gentoo, slack will always be around. but their not "commercial" distros. drake does such great jobs with their wizards and hardware, but is investing time and effort into drake pissing into the wind. i hope not, since i've used drke for years. but...
My problem? I was perfectly gruntled, until some numbnuts came by and dissed me.
Didn't the French Revolutionaries wear red hats?
Could someone review the following and tell me which pieces are going to be problematic (or impossible):
Computer: Compaq Presario 1720US Laptop (PIII 1 GhZ, 384 Meg RAM, 60 Gig HD, ATI Radeon Mobility Video, Built-in DVD/CD-RW)
Attached Ethernet (Wired) to a Windows machine without monitor (need some way to run that in a virtual console)
Attached Linksys Wireless Card (11b) in PC Card slot which is the only Internet connection
Attached Firewire HD (LaCie 360 Gig)
Attached Firewire DVD Burner (4xDVD-R)
Attached TV via S-Video TV/Out
Shared Printer/Scanner - Lexmark X75 PrinTrio
So, is this going to be a worthwhile investment of my time, or is some/most of the above going to stop working? While I'd like to get off my MS Habit, I have this need to use most of the above that keeps pulling me back :-)
Perhaps something like
SAILING MISHAP
I would like to know what warrants a RC release story on the front of Slashdot.
There is no SCO news today, and Slashdot is trying to provoke some crazy press release about Linux RCs from the Stolen Code Organization.
well, i was gonna start it, but i'll follow this comedy with a serious question.
there have now been (at least) 2 non-releases of Mandrake 9.2 for x68. I can't seem to locate the PPC ISOs. There are only two possibilities.. they are unable to respond, they are unwilling to respond.. sorry.. damnit.
1. there are none because they are not doing these pre-release releases for PPC
2. I'm a total choad and i'm just missing it.
I loved Mandrake on my POS AMD k2-500.. but my brother in law needed a machine, so i gave it to him... so now, my only "not doing anything" computer is an iBook a friend of mine gave me to give someone that refuses to call me back.. so screw him, i wanna install Mandrake on it.
which leads me to the point of this..
am i missing something, or are there no Mandrake 9.2x ISO releases? If there are, can you post where they are/how to get them?
Thanks.
guns kill people like spoons make Rosie O'Donnell fat.
Journalists tend not to blindly run press releases. Even then, they're clearly tagged. This one wasn't.
Or, if you wish to see it this way, it's news that Intel thinks it's got a newsworthy product.
By that incredibly low standard, there's no commercial that's *not* news. So it defeats the purpose of having a disctinction. I'm not buying it.
That mandrake 9.2rc1 is out is news, and that there's a company that'll burn a CD and fedex it to you is also news.
If this company were new,I'd agree. It's not. Therefore, it's not news. It's an advertisement attached to a story.
The same thing happened about 5 years ago to the LA Times. They ran a story about the staples center, new home of the Lakers, near a story about the lakers. The Staples story was bought. It wasn't labeled as such. The LA Times was lambasted by the major journalism associations. They later apologized.
Naturally, this begs the question: was the mandrake thing just a friendly plug, or can those be bought too?
-Looking for a job as a materials chemist or multivariat
You are thinking of the Red Coat's, I believe the hats were actually black if I am not mistakin :P
"If I was smarter I could rule the world!"
As a casual linux user I like Mandrake. It supports everything on my laptop (including my Sony R505 - IEEE1394 DVD-ROM drive) right out of the box. It is great for anyone who is thinking of moving to Linux but does not know where to start (or have time dealing with compatibility issues that can pop-up). We all know it is bloated, but I don't have the time to work some of the other compatibility challenged distros.
For now I cannot go to linux all the way because of what I do for a living (anyone want to talk to Avid about porting XpressDV to linux), but I love it for all of my "office work" and emailing. I will give RC2 a try, and I support Mandrake as a company. To me they are they closest to "Linux on the Desktop". They support the latest packages and builds along with good hardware support. Last Friday I had over 300 SoBig.F viruses in my inbox before I got a chance to filter it out with my host's email server configurator (hosting service thing). I did not fear downloading them at all. I pop-ed them, then trashed them, while my co-worked was freaking out trying not to get infected... can't beat that with a stick, thanks Linux... Mandrake made this possible for me.
I've been using Azureus myself. It can handle .torrents at the same time and spread your upload bandwidth among them (rather than having multiple clients open, each one having it's own upload throttle).
:)
It's got some neat eye candy if you're bored.
"People that quote themselves in their signatures bother me" - athakur999
OpenOffice.org 1.1 is at RC 3. Why did I never see a story talking about that? Anyways, as soon as Gnumeric is available on Windows, I think I might switch to using AbiWord/Gnumeric instead. Your thoughts?
personally, I almost never burn a CD anymore for linux installers.....too much hassle. its much easier to me to create the network install floppy and pick a mirror(now a torrent-based install floppy would be uber-cool) the most complicated thing about this is writing down the server host name and the URL that contains the RPMs. once that's done, you begin the normal install process and you're only downloading exactly what you need in order to get a proper installation. creating the floppy is easy, just download the images/network.img (pcmcia.img for laptops) and use dd (winrawrite for windows) to create the boot floppy this is a very old practice, I know. but I'm mostly writing for those who don't. so conserve plastic/aluminum, bandwidth, and time and use the network install instead
Please keep in my that my ADHD keeps me a little scatter brained and I sometimes can't focus long enough to
Support the Protest Against Patents...
/. would run a story about linux today at all. But what really surprises me is that Slashdot would continue operation today, even though they allegedly support the Online Demonstration Against Software Patents [ffii.org].
/. staff to immediately shut down operations and support the
It's ironic that
[linuxfr.org]
I would urge the
demonstration, unless they really don't care about open-source software at all.
Mandrake added native support for dual monitors in their 9.0 series distro. (9.1 if memory serves). Even if you don't use Mandrake Linux, that's a selling point to encourage that 5% of MS Windows home users that have multiple monitors to try Linux. Since these are some of the most techno-literate of MS users, a higher than avarage percent will probably listen - this is a place where Linux can win market share.
Who is John Cabal?
Let's see...
apt-get update && apt-get upgrade...
Damn! wrong distro!
No matter where you go... there you are.
He's right, French Revolutionaries had 'red hat' in the revolution of 1789. I don't know if french revolutionaries had black coat in the other revolution (1830, 1848 and 1871) but i don't think.
dood, ah yoosed ta spel gewd to, butt awl dem dam koledge calsses dun fuct wit ma haed. Ore wuzit da durgs? Ah jes fergit ennymo.
(Score: -1, Stupid)
The iso's haven't finished propagating out to mirrors. Most that I checked a few minutes ago we're only part way though CD1. They're probably waiting for the various ftp mirrors to be updated before they announce anything.
.torrent release just lets a few people snag the images a bit sooner. Not really strange or shady at all.
This
Hez
Myth #243
AFAIK you don't end up with a million and one useless daemons starting a la RedHat or Mandrake (yes, they are bad for this.)
Reality
They don't make that much a difference and there aren't that many of them. Of the ones there are you can disable whatever you want simply from the commandline or from a nice gui. What makes distros "slow" is when you try to run Gnome or KDE on a older machine. These daemons only take a few megs and most of the time simply idle.
Red Hat running Blackbox or XFCE is a fast as Gentoo running Blackbox or XFCE. Carve that into your chest with a knife and then show every Gentoo you can find. We need to get the word out...
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
I'd have to say (as you've mentioned) just about all distro's are/have been guilty of this. I'd hope the LSB has adressed that, but I don't honestly know (I've been on since 7.2 and since 8.0 pretty much solely). I can say I've been using Redhat on a (remote) dedicated server and haven't had any trouble finding everything where I expect it and I have been doing a good deal of configuration by hand (ssh, no X, with Pico).
Quack, quack.
iSlash.org?
http://www.shareaza.com
Another nice Windows BT client (and a few other 'networks')
I expect the next version of Debian will need to ship on a spindle pack, OR maybe more companies will offer DVD's instead!
Mandrake has a DVD available, but it's not free or even budget-priced, or wasn't the last time I checked. I don't really need all the extra non-free stuff they bundle in; I just don't like swapping discs.
Debian has a DVD available, but you have to install their funky little tool in order to download it. Not worth my time. Somebody, please just sell me the stupid disk!
BSD looks like it has a DVD, but it's also non-budget priced.
I haven't checked any other distributions yet, but would welcome recommendations.
Why aren't there more DVD distros out there?
LinuxISO.org has been around for a long time. They dont burn CDs, they just provide a place to d/l ISOs from.
And they I fell in love with sys V init scripts. That now I don't seem to like anything with out it.
From my experience, the time I save by dragging and dropping symlinks around the SysV init maze via a GUI is simply not worth it, since I only need to do that task *ONCE*. I only ever use reboot, halt and multiuser, so I don't need the other twenty nine run levels. So explain to me again the obvious advantages of SysV versus BSD inits again?
A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
Just because a distro has KDE and 100 services, doens't mean you should start them all on your 166MMX.
..), you could have tried a minimal Mandrake install and done your configuration manually, and been up and running in under a day ...
In general, no distro is faster or more bloated than any other (some compile with fewer features, and thus may have a slight edge, until you need the feature
In my mind the flexibility comes not only from having an order and index of start upt and shutdown commands... But from regular system administration tasks:
/etc.init.d/smb status
/etc.init.d/network restart
/etc/init.d/httpd restart
/etc/init.d/ stop will do fine.
in scripts:
if X'/etc/init.d/httpd status' -eq X"DOWN" then
fi
and so fort. Of course you can allways go and use ps + grep + kill + (depending daemon, program pars, etc) to do this tasks but is so much clean to use Sys V scripts. And standard in all scripts.
Add now that you don't have to know exactly how to exit cleanly an application you know that
This is the case of database servers.
I'm not saying that BSD init (Slackware) is bad is just more primitive and less "clean".
BSD licensed software can't be stolen....
that's very good. this guy gets modded down as a troll and the parent post is modded as insightful??? moderators. go figure.
The humor of this post is lost without the parent. Evidently noone knew who Mandark was. :(
The mods make me sad.
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
i dont hav program called notpad. can i use th vim???
I think they posted it to give the Gentoo users an outlet for their pent-up zealotry. Somebody's got to look out for them, you know... :-)
...wearing a skin-tight topless leather jumpsuit, with cutaway buttocks and transparent crotch panel.
Here's an idea for the next Slashdot poll.
Q: Who is more stupid:
1) HanzoSan
2) The people who modded up his ridiculous posts
Hey Hanzo, what happened to TransGaming? Don't tell me you're cheating on them with Mandrake!
I'm not saying that BSD init (Slackware) is bad is just more primitive and less "clean".
/etc/rc.d (or better in /usr/local/etc/rc.d), and they just work. And without link farms from hell. Much cleaner than the typical SysV linkfarms I've seen.
You ought to take a look at the new RCng of NetBSD and FreeBSD. It's not exactly equivalent, because SysV and BSD have different goals with init, but much of it is similar. In fact, you can dump (and several ports do) most SysV scripts into
A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
And I'm sorry.
Welley Corporation - SLM Scammers
The links to the torrents seems dead. Does anyone have a mirror?
Please =)
The link to the torrents seems dead. Does anyone have a mirror for the torrents?
I think Levi's being overly vulgar and offensive, but really you shouldn't use a phrase until you understand it. What is "begging the question?" It's certainly not a question begging to be asked. You would say "which invites the question: $QUESTION".
Before you jump on your Grammar Nazi bandwagon: languages, like other protocols, are for communicating. If you bugger up the protocol, expect to get poor results out of the communication (QED - and if you don't understand what QED means, now would be a good time to look that up too). If you don't understand all of a protocol, stick to the bits you do understand. That's not anally retentive, that's common sense.
Trying to make yourself sound posh by lacing your posts with semi-understood "in" phrases generally ends up with you looking like a bozo, even if nobody overtly calls you on your presumptions.
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
New web site up on how to set up mandrake 9.1 to ease the configuration pains of the new linux user. Written and catered for the moderate computer user. It covers how to get and install mandrake and add in most of the needed applications. Covers most of the major software included in the distribution, other freely available applications, newbie command line tutorial, how to handle some common and annoying bugs peculiar to each application.
PART I
1. Introduction
2. Indispensable Tools for the Linux User
3. Useful links
PART II - Mandrake Installation
1. Getting Mandrake 9.1
2. Installing Mandrake 9.1
3. Going through the install sequence
4. Using Mandrake
5. Nice things to add easily
6. Configuration with Mandrake Control Center
7. Configuration with Gnome Control Center
8. Important Configuration of Menus and MIME Types
9. More Advanced Configuration
PART III - Linux Shell and Apps
1. Navigating around terminal
2. Shells -- bash, csh, rsh, sh
3. Environments and Paths
4. File Permissions
5. Editing files
6. Linking
7. Finding Files
8. Using grep
9. Basic bash scripts knowledge
10. Running Remote X applications
11. Mounting Remote File Systems
12. Language setup for man pages
13. Handling Print Jobs
PART IV - Software Packages
1. What are packages?
2. Specifying Sources For Online Downloading - Mandrake Mirrors, Texstar, PLF
3. Packages to be installed from Mandrake CDs - Mesa, mplayer, Timidity, pan, gaim, mozplugger
4. Packages to install from Texstar - Macromedia Flash, nano, Real Player
5. Mplayer and Codecs
6. Other essential packages- Open Office, Sun Java, Adobe Acrobat 5, BitTorrent
7. Setting up SMB share for Windows
8. Using vncserver for remote desktop applications
9. File Sharing - p2p networks - Limewire, edonkey, lmule
10. Running M$ Office under Linux.
11. Games - SNES, MAME, WineX
PART V - Advanced FAQ
1. How do I get DRI 3D acceleration to work?
2. Mandrake Fonts Deuglification and Anti-aliasing
3. Email Clients and Web Browsers (Handling mailto: and http:)
4. Full Mozilla Plugins Configuration (Quicktime, Java, Flash, Mplayer)
5. Konquerer Plugins Configuration
6. X Windows xmatrix screensaver
7. How to adjust the sound volume permanently
This HOWTO is my first contribution to the linux user community, and since I have found documentation sorely lacking for the total newbie, I have decided to write one myself. It is based on my experience in the past month trying to install everything from scratch. This HOWTO will be short, brief and to the point. Further information can be found in documentations on other websites, this one is just for the impatient, and users who want to reduce their startup time. Why Mandrake? Firstly, it is easy-to-install, and the first distribution that I've tried that has come very close to the ease-of-use of windows. If you can install and customize windows, you will not have much trouble with the Linux installation. Who is this HOWTO written for? This document is meant for the average user who is at least accustomed to tweaking and customizing their own OS. It will definitely not be a tutorial on how to point and click or use GUI interfaces.
it's all about big buttons. i hope they have bigger ones than in upcoming LONGhorn .... software business is sexy...
class he-man extends man!
They changed the date and changed it from RC1 to RC2
:-) Anyway, many mirroirs aren't ready yet, so more details about this first release candidate later. If you can't wait, use BitTorrent to catch the ISOs. And you can even already discuss the RC.
August 28th, 2003 - Mandrake 9.2RC2 - Yes it's going to be available soon
...I'm sure that the powers that be at Slashdot will not mind it at all if I mention that I have also been making discs of the betas available for sale at http://www.getlinuxcheap.us.
In reality, I highly object to such blatant advertising disguised as a supposed "news" story. But I'm posting my url here because, simply stated, if Slashdot sees nothing wrong with plugging that site, then as a loyal Slashdot member for many years I expect to be accorded the same treatment.
I want a new quote. One that won't spill. One that don't cost too much. Or come in a pill.
First, getting the release candidate and upgrading a few rpms to the final versions means you avoid the rush when the final is released. /etc/fstab entry for you and automounts it.
Second, I run mandrake cooker from which snapshots are taken for the RC, a few things I have noticed
a) on boot there is a much more professional lilo/boot splash
b) its getting really smart, plug in a usb camera and
an icon appears on the desktop, it adds a
c) unless gnome really gets a move on 9.2 will have gnome 2.4beta. It'll be a close thing and IMO they should wait for 2.4.
d) netprofiles, in the age of wireless networking a big plus to be able to switch connection settings simply without ifup and dhclient (i know its not hard for some)
Which incongrous, contradictary terms have been combined?
I don't remember being able to select PHP in the "Categories" screen, so did you select php in the "Custom selection" or whatever screen? If you did, you may have missed the fact that php comes in different flavours, since it is not only a web-based language, you can run php scripts on the CLI with php-cli.
You were probably missing the mod_php package:
# urpmi mod_php
This would probably give you a choice between a mod_php for apache 1 or apache 2, you just have to choose which one you want.
Of course, not all the php features are in one package, so for mysql you may also need to:
# urpmi php-mysql
Thank you :)
"This HOWTO will be short, brief and to the point" really means "I didn't bother doing any research so I could include anything that would be worth your while"
Then this guy creates a simple website that WILL TRY TO INSTALL AD/SPYWARE when you visit it. This guy pretends to help but really is only trying to lure people to get his ad/spyware installed.
Boycott this LAME website!
If you want to participate in the Mandrake PPC development, you can find more information in the Mandrake Ports Wiki.
Actually, the two people whose mention of the R1's availability are listed in this story are simply the first two submitters who I saw that linked to it. Things don't always work that way (often submissions are unrunnable for some reason or another ... broken links, baffling content, etc, too many submissions on a given topic for us to use them all, etc.), but in this case it did.
:)
;) YMMV, and probably does.
;) !) , but I'm sure some people really believe the answer to that last one is Yes.
...)
Addressing the idea that this is an ad, the answer is pretty easy: Nope -- it's not.
[Second layer answer is, there are always going to be people who will actually be convinced by any such answer that the exact opposite is true, to which I can only shrug and think of other things. For nearly any Slashdot post, I guess you could come up with a theory that it was paid for by someone to promote commercial interests in some manner. One guy in this thread suggests -- jokingly -- that budgetlinuxcds was linked to by a competitor.]
So, thanks to adjacent submissions about the release, I linked to a bittorrent file and a company selling cheap ISOs by mail.
(I'd never heard of budgetlinuxcds before this post, but a quick google search convinced me they seemed legitimate; I *can* vouch that I've been a happy cheapbytes customer, though.)
If you have bandwidth and interest, the bittorent seems like a good idea; if you have only the interest part, maybe a mailed ISO makes sense. For a good part of yesterday, I was working from a slow dialup connection, and wasn't about to download 3 CDs worth of data
A lot of stories on Slashdot mention companies or their products, sometimes with links to particular ones. This is because we're interested in a particular technology or product, for good or ill.
(On the front page right now is a story that there are two new models of the Roomba automated vacuum cleaner. I realize there are people who sincerely believe that this means Roomba and Slashdot are plotting to promote Roomba in secret Dr. Strangelove black-and-white war-room sessions. Nope to that one, too.)
Is every mention of AMD an advertisement for AMD? Game reviews are often positive, and often link to merchants selling the games mentioned. [Conspiracy.] Should we replace every company or product name (and their URLS) with asterices? What if I'd linked to several ISO providers (adding in cheapbytes, say)? Should every link to commercial sites or mentioning available products in a positive light be stripped from submissions? These are supposed to be rhetorical questions (
I think if I *had* linked to cheapbytes, an instant conspiracy theory would pop up that Slashdot posts are really the manifestation of shadowy bidding wars among low-margin free software purveyors, who are using their vast gains to purchase evil patent portfolios from gnomes, take over the world, etc etc. (I have seen one episode of the animated show "Stripperella" -- it was about the world's cheapest criminal mastermind; he might want to get it on this at the ground floor
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
That thing is beyond my control. It is from the URL redirection I use with cjb.net. If you are not using Internet Exploder, those cjb ads should not work on you. And since you are using IE, this web site might not be meant for you anyway. So boycott your own Windows XX before you boycott my website.
And it is not that short, this website took me months to prepare, since the release of Mandrake 9.1. There's one more thing I will add in on the miscellaneous section, probably a LaTeX guide in a bit after I explore it a bit more.
In short, this web site is by users for users, not by a developer for a user, so I hope it helps MY INTENDED AUDIENCE.
Don't you get discouraged by this bully. He'd better do something constructive instead of trying to discredit a very good initiative.
;-).
I'm running Mandrake now for a couple of months. I have left the Windoze world almost completely behind me (at least at home, at work I don't have a choice). And that is mainly because of the help of your HOWTO. How wonderfull Mandrake might be as distribution, without the help of a HOWTO such as yours there is still quite a lot of stuff that a newbie needs a lot of time finding out via other sources. Having it all together in one source is very time saving and thus improves the userfriendliness of Mandrake again a lot.
I sincerely hope that you will continue your efforts. Mandrake 9.2 is coming up
Ciao,
Sitor
I tried to install Mandrake 9.2 RC 1 on a 486 Intel machine but repeatedly ran into the same problem regarding a missing package. I don't know the name of the package since the installer didn't specify it. I tried installing with danish language support, then english, but both failed. Then I tried the minimum install (without WineX and documentation), but that failed too. The harddisk was formatted and mounted as "/".
Does Mandrake 9.2 work with 486 processors or what else am I doing wrong? I'm currently downloading Mandrake 9.1 to see if that also fails. HELP!
Mandrake mentions /. as a place to discuss the new release.
Too bad so many pedantic holier than though trolls are whining about the post by a distributor of CD's. Who cares. The post is about a new release of a great distribution, not the horrors of monopolistic industry advertising and exploitation.
It would be very cool to actually focus on discussing and possibly improving upon the distribution. Come on guys, we are supposed to be building upon the "news for nerds, stuff that matters" credo, not defaming it by filling the board with BS.
Let's see some real posts, let's hear what people think about the latest release. Let's see if we can't prevent some of the most annoying of bugs from being released. Let's share pertinent and valuable information.
Any actual on-topic posts?
:-( --- argh. Despair, I owe again.
I was thinking that can't we have an alternate way of installing Mandrake than the present one. An alternate intallation procedure can be developed wherein the users who want to compile the packages can do so automatically. they just need to provide the CFLAGS etc for optimisations for their architecture and the rest can be done automatically. this way the installation period may get elongated but the system would finally rock!
I think taking up source rpms and compiling them can be very easily automated.
I really liked mandrake 9.0 & 9.1 but I'm too much of a noob to get it to work with the above soundcard, even though I gather partial 3rd party support is available. Anyone know if 9.2 will support it natively? Thanks, A.Coward
MDK 8.2 was very good, cleaning up a lot of 8.1 packaging issues (and using a much better version of the kernel).
MDK 9.0 was messy: with the GCC 2.9 --> GCC 3.x incompatibilities not yet addressed at that time, MDK seemed much less stable and much less 'integrated'. IMHO 9.0 sucked, I moved my test machine back down until the 9.1 RCs (my production machine went directly from 8.2 to 9.1).
MDK 9.1 has been very good, and I expect MDK 9.2 to be even better. (Then I expect things to go back downhill for a while, while bugs are driven out of 2.6 and its hardware drivers...).