What is with you people? NO, IT IS NOT SLOWER IN C/C++. You are running code through a glorified interpreter running through an emulated codepath, all of which is written in C/C++. Java always will be slower, because it's always more steps from the hardware and always running in a VM.
Java code just isn't the hideously slow crap it was when it first because popular. Once the VM is up, it runs quite snappy save for some of the older and trashier widget toolkits. BUT, it still takes some time to load the VM on my 2GHz+ machine, and still takes too much memory (>16MB for the VM), and that's still no good.
The C/C++ code you've worked with is either just plain bad, or you don't know what to look for. I can always optimize my code to be faster than equivalent Java.
Write your Java code because it's the best choice, not because for the sake of being a language bigot. Java has it's uses, C/C++ has it's uses, and so does Assembly.
No, your house isn't connected to an open peer to peer network. It would be more like someone driving around town writing down if there was a house at each lot. The assumption on the Internet is that every machine might be sharing something. If you don't like the possibility of someone connecting to your machine, don't have a routable address!
I don't like people port scanning me either, but it's because it's usually a precursor to an attack, not because it's illegal or similar.
CS is an applied science, remember; it's all about application of math theory. Soft. eng. is great if you want to be a code monkey, but for serious design and next generation concepts, you will need the math. If you don't understand what makes one algorithm better than another, and how to design one from scratch, how can you code anything that hasn't been implemented before. I sure wouldn't want to see someone try to do highly scalable code or cluster software without heavy math...
The fun jobs use the math, excerise the heck out of your mind, are a lot of hard work, but are very rewarding! Science doesn't generally pay directly in money... it's the pursuit of knowledge and the rewards of discovery and creation.
Running in Medium @ 1024x768 I usually get 50-60fps. In elevators and such I drop to 15-30fps though.
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You are right, and in that situation the problem likely is on their end. It will probably be easy to fix, and no big deal. If they have the same problem all the time, however, they are taking a valuable resource (your time) away from the company by their refusal to use their tool properly. The first time a user has a problem it is always nice to try to explain what it was and how it happened. Most people will try not to repeat it. The user in question here is the one that doesn't care that it might break email, doesn't want to be bothered to do it differently, an doesn't care if it's taking away from a company resource. They have a problem! That user is arrogant and annoying.
As a support person, you should not be arrogant and annoying back, but you will have to assume that if that user has a problem, they caused the problem. So you will start to check their end first, and fix their screwup. You will then also have to file a ticket or report of something, and the problem will end up being that user. If things worked properly, the user would either get fixed or replaced.
That simply doesn't work in the real world. It would be nice if you could do that, admittedly. In all probability, either the program messed up, or they messed up the problem. If this happens to them regularly, and they always ignore whatever is going on, then the problem is the user. You are using a tool, and you use it like a tool. There are ways in which to use the tool in which it does what you want. You don't use a band saw by absent-mindedly pushing some wood through it, and you don't use a car by closing your eyes and moving the wheel randomly.
Support personel can't go wandering off to look at everyone's computer. They can't help people that might have a serious problem if they aren't at their desk. In most support roles, you'll just get fired for that.
And as for the mechanic references... they have to attract business. If they didn't treat every incompetant owner and lying owner as well as a knowledgable owner that already knew the problem, they would go out of business. In a support job, you were hired to take calls, sort out problems, and get as many people up and running as possible. If you have some arrogant and lazy user that refuses to learn to use their tool and constantly takes time and money, there is a serious problem with that user.
Case 1: So someone invents the super-sonic aircraft, and needs to steer it. So they figure out a mechanism to steer it, only to get sued for infringing on a patent. Now they either have to pay to use the patent, or patent the plane and wait for the steering patent to expire, while expending unnecessary resources trying to find a way around your patent. Advantage for patent: might make someone some money. Disadvantage to patent: discouraged the manufacture of super-sonic aircraft, research of those aircraft, production of steering systems.
Case 2: Again, tough for you. You patended a device, there's no market for it due to the manufacture price. By the time you can produce it cheaply, your patent expires. Oh well, should have kept quiet about it until production was feasible, but now people can make better widgets, or you can make a better widget and patent *that*.
The patent system isn't supposed to mean your patent is good until you can make money off it. It's for making money off it for a fixed period of time so you can recoup your costs and make a tidy profit. This encourages you to make new things, which you can then patent, and charge people more for since there isn't anyone else making said invention.
Since patents aren't supposed to be good for very long (I can't remember what the original term length was... somewhere between 4 and 14 years), you have a good amount of time to have the exclusive rights to do things with that invention. If you don't infringe, then there isn't anything to sue over. If you infringe and I ignore it, I could purposefully wait until you are making money and then sue you for a lot.
Now I think submarine patents are ridiculous... honestly I would love to see these useless terms lengths dropped back to something reasonable: around 10 years. I also think that you should have to *use* the damn patent for something or lose it. Other than that, it's your responisbility to make sure I don't have a pantent on what you're doing. It's likely in my best interest to prevent you from profitting from my patent. I should be contacting you the moment I found out that you were infringing. I would be a great change to the patent system to have patents invalidated if it's shown that the holder intentionally sat on a pantent and waited for a competitor to be profitable to sue.
24x CF are 3600KB/s. It should have taken approximately 27.78s to copy that to your card.
Cards are of varying quality, as are readers, but you still should have been getting over 1MB/s. Unless you have a CF card made by SanDisk, which are just horribly slow. Try getting an IBM or Pretec card.
The first thing I did after installing the 0.9rc was to install Qute. The default theme looks like it was drawn for a Windows 3.1 program, freehand, in MS Paint.:( They also changed the menu shading, which is no longer matched with the system menu widgets.
Next is to try to actually install an extension and not have to delete my profile to get it to start again. Error code 999 my rear...
To the RC's credit, this is an extremely fast build, both to start and to browse. If I can manage to get Flashblock and the tab extension installed, I'll be very happy.
It costs per area code, per year. If you purchase more area codes, the "year" you have it started from the date of your first area code's purchase. The only leeway they give is that if you purchase another area code more than six months after your first, it costs 15$ instead of 25$. Getting the full US list costs thousands of dollars per year.
25$ per area code after first five 15$ per area code after six months from 1st purchase 7,375$ max per year for full US listing
The first is that if a new company starts up, they have to find a way to get their name out there to businesses in some way. In the US, you simply avoid calling individuals and numbers on the Do-Not-Call list (which unfortunately costs thousands of dollars to get the entirety of). Cold calling businesses is a decent option for getting business. Then you can afford advertising and have some word of mouth going on.
The second is that by refusing to do business with a company because they called you is a little silly. A lot of companies cold call for new leads. Most of them don't call people they have either already called recently, or who have asked to not be called again.
As someone starting up a business, if you have better suggestions on how to get new clients, I'd love to hear them, though!
The preview SP2 release has many of the services that are often complained about disabled by default. It also comes with a fairly central security management app for Windows (well, virus scanning, firewall, system updates at least). They made the software firewall much better, as well.
There are still a few services that it would be nice for them to disable that are still active by default, though.
Except the X-Box really is mostly commodity hardware... it has a mainstream GPU with some tweaks, a normal CPU, RAM, HD, chipsets, audio, etc. It uses PCI and AGP devices and USB. Oh, and it runs a stripped down version of Windows. It really is a mini-ATX PC in a fancy box.
The GameCube uses a lot of custom hardware with a commodity CPU and custom software.
Farmers need guns too. How do you think a lot of vermin is gotten rid of? Walking around with a knife, or asking them politely to leave? You can't spread poison around the fields and expect to have any food left, you know.
Why do PC hardware manufacturers now think they are so special? Manufacturers of electronics *always* publish specs! Would you go out and buy some chip to integrate into a design that you didn't know specs for?
Trident is heavily used in embededd and low power situations. A lot of times, people are writing code that will directly drive the hardware! By these people deciding not to publish specs on the hardware, they are really screwing up.
I certainly am not buying a load of Trident chips and just nodding my head about the catch of "Oh, by the way, you aren't allowed to know how these work. Just use Windows." My ass I will! Windows doesn't exactly run too sharp on a device that has a few MB of RAM, and no writeable local storage otherwise. Especially a device based on something of equivalent power to a 486.
Trident: Wake up. People use you because it's easy to integrate your chips into designs, and because the chips are low power and don't include frivolous functionality. It certainly isn't because of your lack of features and low graphics power.
Certainly true, but far too much money goes to sports in the US. The typical public school has a modern outfitted sports program and associated insurance. The same schools typically have rather old books, don't take fields trips, substandard equipment, etc. School is a place to teach children, not to waste money on something most kids to anyway.
BTW - how many kids do you know that look forward to gym class? What, maybe 5-10% of them? What's the most common complaint about gym classes? Kids get crap beat out of them. How good of my money to get spent on that!
Or of you want to talk about "after-school sports", as in, those things that kids leave school early for, missing important instruction, why should the school pay for that? Why can't they do what most other clubs do, and raise money for themselves?
No, I say give money to more important things. I wouldn't want to see sports/athletics/etc taken out of school, but they are NOT, and should not be a priority.
Or they could invest in *EDUCATION* at the schools. Wasting school dollars on athletics is so much worse than spending on an educational tool such as a computer.
> I do believe that international patent law
> should be different, but believing that a law
> should be different is never a good reason to
> break it.
In all honesty, the existence of international patent law is bullshit. It's entangling countries that used to be independant into these larger multi-national federal governments.
And believeing a law is wrong or should be changed is a rather good reason to break it. When you realize that you'll never change a law by working in the system, the only way to change it is to break it. Maybe you'll have to break even more laws in the process of changing that one bad law.
The US wouldn't exist if Brits didn't break English laws, for example. And when laws get as ludicrous as many are today, things that were legal yesterday suddenly become illegal, and you may not even know it happened.
If you want a prime example of this in history, look at the US's Prohibition. If you want an example of what stupid laws cause in action, look at the US's "[Illegal] War on Drugs".
I think Brazil should have attempted to pay to license the patent, but if the pharmaseutical company was asking for a ridiculous amount of money for it, then they already got what they deserve. Used to be that people would do research to better humanity, and sometimes even give it away! Hope this particular drug company isn't the one that cures HIV or cancer. Most of the people afflicted with it would die because they couldn't cough up 80,000$ per treatment the drug companies want.
His website did NOT allow the illegal publishing and distribution of DVDs. Illegal use of the software that he made available is a crime, but possession of an object that *could potentially* be used for an illegal act is not illegal.
I have a knife on my desk. That knife could be used to commit a murder. Does this mean that I am allowing the murder of someone? No, it means that the knife *could* be used for that purpose.
Likewise, just because DeCSS could potentially be used for illegal publishing and distribution of DVD's does not mean that it *is* being used for that. Having a tool that can be used for something illegal is not the same as using a tool for something illegal. Repeat that last line a few times.
BTW - "illegal publishing"???? Does that portion of the statement imply that it would be illegal for me to produce a DVD? I can understand if I was using one of their trademarks without a license, but come on!
The only reason Verizon is involved in any of Covad's business is because Verizon owns the local loop. Covad needs Verizon to switch the a pair at the CO from their equipment to Covad's DSLAM. Verizon takes 3-5 weeks to do this. Verizon also takes 3-5 weeks to tell you if you can get DSL. They also provide incorrect data for distances of customers from the CO. Covad has their own network behind that DSLAM in the CO. If there was a better way to get the data from your house to the DSLAM, trust me, there would be a lot of businesses making a lot of money, a lot of very happy customers, and one very pissed off Verizon.
Everybody in the New England area that's doing telecommunications has to deal with Verizon. They even take up to 8 *MONTHS* to get a T1 loop installed, and good luck if you're actually using those idiots for more than the local loop. They overbooked their network to such an extreme that they were turning people down for service.
www.verizoneatspoop.com
I can't get DSL in my area (thank you Verizon for putting me on a CO 24000 feet away) even though it's a major metro area (Worcester, MA). It took them eight weeks to tell me that. My previous dealings with them had incorrect data being reported to the DSL companies, and false information being entered into logs that went back to the DSL companies.
It certainly is your local loop providers that are forcing most of the DSL companies and network out of business.
IBM laptops are great, they work wonderfully. I *have* the T20 that was mentioned in the writeup. Winmodem or no, every piece of hardware works in Linux. The winmodem is Lucent based, and has Linux support.
Best I've used is still a Dell Latitude CSx. Was metal cased, and very nice. Everything worked great and it was tiny.
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What is with you people? NO, IT IS NOT SLOWER IN C/C++. You are running code through a glorified interpreter running through an emulated codepath, all of which is written in C/C++. Java always will be slower, because it's always more steps from the hardware and always running in a VM.
Java code just isn't the hideously slow crap it was when it first because popular. Once the VM is up, it runs quite snappy save for some of the older and trashier widget toolkits. BUT, it still takes some time to load the VM on my 2GHz+ machine, and still takes too much memory (>16MB for the VM), and that's still no good.
The C/C++ code you've worked with is either just plain bad, or you don't know what to look for. I can always optimize my code to be faster than equivalent Java.
Write your Java code because it's the best choice, not because for the sake of being a language bigot. Java has it's uses, C/C++ has it's uses, and so does Assembly.
No, your house isn't connected to an open peer to peer network. It would be more like someone driving around town writing down if there was a house at each lot. The assumption on the Internet is that every machine might be sharing something. If you don't like the possibility of someone connecting to your machine, don't have a routable address!
I don't like people port scanning me either, but it's because it's usually a precursor to an attack, not because it's illegal or similar.
CS is an applied science, remember; it's all about application of math theory. Soft. eng. is great if you want to be a code monkey, but for serious design and next generation concepts, you will need the math. If you don't understand what makes one algorithm better than another, and how to design one from scratch, how can you code anything that hasn't been implemented before. I sure wouldn't want to see someone try to do highly scalable code or cluster software without heavy math...
The fun jobs use the math, excerise the heck out of your mind, are a lot of hard work, but are very rewarding! Science doesn't generally pay directly in money... it's the pursuit of knowledge and the rewards of discovery and creation.
Athlon 2600+ Thoroughbred-B @ 333MHz
768MB PC3200 CAS2.5 @ 333MHz
GeForce4 Ti 4200 128MB 8x AGP
WD 80GB w/ 8MB cache
Running in Medium @ 1024x768 I usually get 50-60fps. In elevators and such I drop to 15-30fps though.
You are right, and in that situation the problem likely is on their end. It will probably be easy to fix, and no big deal. If they have the same problem all the time, however, they are taking a valuable resource (your time) away from the company by their refusal to use their tool properly. The first time a user has a problem it is always nice to try to explain what it was and how it happened. Most people will try not to repeat it. The user in question here is the one that doesn't care that it might break email, doesn't want to be bothered to do it differently, an doesn't care if it's taking away from a company resource. They have a problem! That user is arrogant and annoying.
As a support person, you should not be arrogant and annoying back, but you will have to assume that if that user has a problem, they caused the problem. So you will start to check their end first, and fix their screwup. You will then also have to file a ticket or report of something, and the problem will end up being that user. If things worked properly, the user would either get fixed or replaced.
That simply doesn't work in the real world. It would be nice if you could do that, admittedly. In all probability, either the program messed up, or they messed up the problem. If this happens to them regularly, and they always ignore whatever is going on, then the problem is the user. You are using a tool, and you use it like a tool. There are ways in which to use the tool in which it does what you want. You don't use a band saw by absent-mindedly pushing some wood through it, and you don't use a car by closing your eyes and moving the wheel randomly.
Support personel can't go wandering off to look at everyone's computer. They can't help people that might have a serious problem if they aren't at their desk. In most support roles, you'll just get fired for that.
And as for the mechanic references... they have to attract business. If they didn't treat every incompetant owner and lying owner as well as a knowledgable owner that already knew the problem, they would go out of business. In a support job, you were hired to take calls, sort out problems, and get as many people up and running as possible. If you have some arrogant and lazy user that refuses to learn to use their tool and constantly takes time and money, there is a serious problem with that user.
"%PROGRAMFILES%\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" ;-)
You want "%SYSTEMROOT%\explore.exe" perhaps? That's another good one to remove; it improves stability considerably.
In both your cases it really should be "Too bad".
Case 1: So someone invents the super-sonic aircraft, and needs to steer it. So they figure out a mechanism to steer it, only to get sued for infringing on a patent. Now they either have to pay to use the patent, or patent the plane and wait for the steering patent to expire, while expending unnecessary resources trying to find a way around your patent. Advantage for patent: might make someone some money. Disadvantage to patent: discouraged the manufacture of super-sonic aircraft, research of those aircraft, production of steering systems.
Case 2: Again, tough for you. You patended a device, there's no market for it due to the manufacture price. By the time you can produce it cheaply, your patent expires. Oh well, should have kept quiet about it until production was feasible, but now people can make better widgets, or you can make a better widget and patent *that*.
The patent system isn't supposed to mean your patent is good until you can make money off it. It's for making money off it for a fixed period of time so you can recoup your costs and make a tidy profit. This encourages you to make new things, which you can then patent, and charge people more for since there isn't anyone else making said invention.
Since patents aren't supposed to be good for very long (I can't remember what the original term length was... somewhere between 4 and 14 years), you have a good amount of time to have the exclusive rights to do things with that invention. If you don't infringe, then there isn't anything to sue over. If you infringe and I ignore it, I could purposefully wait until you are making money and then sue you for a lot.
Now I think submarine patents are ridiculous... honestly I would love to see these useless terms lengths dropped back to something reasonable: around 10 years. I also think that you should have to *use* the damn patent for something or lose it. Other than that, it's your responisbility to make sure I don't have a pantent on what you're doing. It's likely in my best interest to prevent you from profitting from my patent. I should be contacting you the moment I found out that you were infringing. I would be a great change to the patent system to have patents invalidated if it's shown that the holder intentionally sat on a pantent and waited for a competitor to be profitable to sue.
24x CF are 3600KB/s. It should have taken approximately 27.78s to copy that to your card.
Cards are of varying quality, as are readers, but you still should have been getting over 1MB/s. Unless you have a CF card made by SanDisk, which are just horribly slow. Try getting an IBM or Pretec card.
They had the first plane and were able to glide. The Wright Bros. were the first to have a plane that could sustain flight.
1,000,000,000 square light years per yoctosecond in square angstrom per yottosecond Link :)
The first thing I did after installing the 0.9rc was to install Qute. The default theme looks like it was drawn for a Windows 3.1 program, freehand, in MS Paint. :( They also changed the menu shading, which is no longer matched with the system menu widgets.
Next is to try to actually install an extension and not have to delete my profile to get it to start again. Error code 999 my rear...
To the RC's credit, this is an extremely fast build, both to start and to browse. If I can manage to get Flashblock and the tab extension installed, I'll be very happy.
It costs per area code, per year. If you purchase more area codes, the "year" you have it started from the date of your first area code's purchase. The only leeway they give is that if you purchase another area code more than six months after your first, it costs 15$ instead of 25$. Getting the full US list costs thousands of dollars per year.
25$ per area code after first five
15$ per area code after six months from 1st purchase
7,375$ max per year for full US listing
I see two problems with that approach.
The first is that if a new company starts up, they have to find a way to get their name out there to businesses in some way. In the US, you simply avoid calling individuals and numbers on the Do-Not-Call list (which unfortunately costs thousands of dollars to get the entirety of). Cold calling businesses is a decent option for getting business. Then you can afford advertising and have some word of mouth going on.
The second is that by refusing to do business with a company because they called you is a little silly. A lot of companies cold call for new leads. Most of them don't call people they have either already called recently, or who have asked to not be called again.
As someone starting up a business, if you have better suggestions on how to get new clients, I'd love to hear them, though!
The preview SP2 release has many of the services that are often complained about disabled by default. It also comes with a fairly central security management app for Windows (well, virus scanning, firewall, system updates at least). They made the software firewall much better, as well.
There are still a few services that it would be nice for them to disable that are still active by default, though.
Except the X-Box really is mostly commodity hardware... it has a mainstream GPU with some tweaks, a normal CPU, RAM, HD, chipsets, audio, etc. It uses PCI and AGP devices and USB. Oh, and it runs a stripped down version of Windows. It really is a mini-ATX PC in a fancy box.
The GameCube uses a lot of custom hardware with a commodity CPU and custom software.
Actually, you get 9600 baud on POTS. Everything over that is using constellation maps and compression.
Farmers need guns too. How do you think a lot of vermin is gotten rid of? Walking around with a knife, or asking them politely to leave? You can't spread poison around the fields and expect to have any food left, you know.
Why do PC hardware manufacturers now think they are so special? Manufacturers of electronics *always* publish specs! Would you go out and buy some chip to integrate into a design that you didn't know specs for?
Trident is heavily used in embededd and low power situations. A lot of times, people are writing code that will directly drive the hardware! By these people deciding not to publish specs on the hardware, they are really screwing up.
I certainly am not buying a load of Trident chips and just nodding my head about the catch of "Oh, by the way, you aren't allowed to know how these work. Just use Windows." My ass I will! Windows doesn't exactly run too sharp on a device that has a few MB of RAM, and no writeable local storage otherwise. Especially a device based on something of equivalent power to a 486.
Trident: Wake up. People use you because it's easy to integrate your chips into designs, and because the chips are low power and don't include frivolous functionality. It certainly isn't because of your lack of features and low graphics power.
Certainly true, but far too much money goes to sports in the US. The typical public school has a modern outfitted sports program and associated insurance. The same schools typically have rather old books, don't take fields trips, substandard equipment, etc. School is a place to teach children, not to waste money on something most kids to anyway.
BTW - how many kids do you know that look forward to gym class? What, maybe 5-10% of them? What's the most common complaint about gym classes? Kids get crap beat out of them. How good of my money to get spent on that!
Or of you want to talk about "after-school sports", as in, those things that kids leave school early for, missing important instruction, why should the school pay for that? Why can't they do what most other clubs do, and raise money for themselves?
No, I say give money to more important things. I wouldn't want to see sports/athletics/etc taken out of school, but they are NOT, and should not be a priority.
Or they could invest in *EDUCATION* at the schools. Wasting school dollars on athletics is so much worse than spending on an educational tool such as a computer.
> I do believe that international patent law
> should be different, but believing that a law
> should be different is never a good reason to
> break it.
In all honesty, the existence of international patent law is bullshit. It's entangling countries that used to be independant into these larger multi-national federal governments.
And believeing a law is wrong or should be changed is a rather good reason to break it. When you realize that you'll never change a law by working in the system, the only way to change it is to break it. Maybe you'll have to break even more laws in the process of changing that one bad law.
The US wouldn't exist if Brits didn't break English laws, for example. And when laws get as ludicrous as many are today, things that were legal yesterday suddenly become illegal, and you may not even know it happened.
If you want a prime example of this in history, look at the US's Prohibition. If you want an example of what stupid laws cause in action, look at the US's "[Illegal] War on Drugs".
I think Brazil should have attempted to pay to license the patent, but if the pharmaseutical company was asking for a ridiculous amount of money for it, then they already got what they deserve. Used to be that people would do research to better humanity, and sometimes even give it away! Hope this particular drug company isn't the one that cures HIV or cancer. Most of the people afflicted with it would die because they couldn't cough up 80,000$ per treatment the drug companies want.
His website did NOT allow the illegal publishing and distribution of DVDs. Illegal use of the software that he made available is a crime, but possession of an object that *could potentially* be used for an illegal act is not illegal.
I have a knife on my desk. That knife could be used to commit a murder. Does this mean that I am allowing the murder of someone? No, it means that the knife *could* be used for that purpose.
Likewise, just because DeCSS could potentially be used for illegal publishing and distribution of DVD's does not mean that it *is* being used for that. Having a tool that can be used for something illegal is not the same as using a tool for something illegal. Repeat that last line a few times.
BTW - "illegal publishing"???? Does that portion of the statement imply that it would be illegal for me to produce a DVD? I can understand if I was using one of their trademarks without a license, but come on!
The only reason Verizon is involved in any of Covad's business is because Verizon owns the local loop. Covad needs Verizon to switch the a pair at the CO from their equipment to Covad's DSLAM. Verizon takes 3-5 weeks to do this. Verizon also takes 3-5 weeks to tell you if you can get DSL. They also provide incorrect data for distances of customers from the CO. Covad has their own network behind that DSLAM in the CO. If there was a better way to get the data from your house to the DSLAM, trust me, there would be a lot of businesses making a lot of money, a lot of very happy customers, and one very pissed off Verizon.
Everybody in the New England area that's doing telecommunications has to deal with Verizon. They even take up to 8 *MONTHS* to get a T1 loop installed, and good luck if you're actually using those idiots for more than the local loop. They overbooked their network to such an extreme that they were turning people down for service.
www.verizoneatspoop.com
I can't get DSL in my area (thank you Verizon for putting me on a CO 24000 feet away) even though it's a major metro area (Worcester, MA). It took them eight weeks to tell me that. My previous dealings with them had incorrect data being reported to the DSL companies, and false information being entered into logs that went back to the DSL companies.
It certainly is your local loop providers that are forcing most of the DSL companies and network out of business.
-Aaron
IBM laptops are great, they work wonderfully. I *have* the T20 that was mentioned in the writeup. Winmodem or no, every piece of hardware works in Linux. The winmodem is Lucent based, and has Linux support.
Best I've used is still a Dell Latitude CSx. Was metal cased, and very nice. Everything worked great and it was tiny.