To copy Unix source code would not be ethically wrong, but it is illegal
Uh...? It's one thing to advocate Free Software, I can even live with advocating that people stop using proprietary software, but this seems to imply that RMS thinks it's OK to willfully and intentionally violate licensing agreements that one has (presumably) voluntarily accepted? That's going a bit far.
That being the case, there will always be people who respond to questions with "RTFM j00 n00b."
That's true, of course. But in my (purely anecdotal and by no means exhaustive) personal experience, there is a greater concentration of such individuals in the free/open source world than in the commercial world. Perhaps one reason for this is that being rude/obnoxious to your potential customers isn't a good way to get them to give you money.
If you think that my attitude is the only thing preventing linux from beating windows on the desktop then you are quite possibly the stupidest person on the planet.
Gee, there you go again. You should work at a help desk, or maybe as a product evangelist. The world should not be denied the benefit of your people-skills.
Once again so what? Do I really care if some clueless twit isn't using linux? I am happy they aren't using linux. They should stay as far away from linux as possible. Using linux will in all likelyhood make their little heads explode.
It is exactly this sort of attitude that guarantees that Linux will never beat Windows on the desktop. Which, of course, I'm sure is just fine with certain members of the propellerhead crowd...
I'm just glad to hear that all that money is going to a good cause, unlike many other tlds such as.ws,.tv, etc. which are marketed as entirely american and without any significant benifit to the countries for which they were originally created.
I thought the island of Tuvalu was supposed to get at least $4 million for the.tv franchise. That's not significant?
It's constantly amazing to me too how many of the Gnu-Uber-Alles folks don't really understand that they are giving their work away for free and can not reasonably expect anything in return. Not a salary, not an occasional trip, not even acknowledgement. Free means free, you can't expect jack in return. Those are the terms you choose when you use the GPL!
If viewed with respect to a single piece of software you've written, then this is true. But when viewed from the perspective of a society of people developing GPL software, then what you can "expect in return" is access to a host of other people's GPL software, available for your own use.
You said, "T-Mobile... sucks ass in the States." My response was directed towards that statement.
That's fine. But I'd still stand by my original statement. T-Mobile's coverage is usually OK in major cities. Get outside of those major cities, though, and the service disappears quickly. For instance, when I go on road trips to upstate NY or (non-Boston) MA, I usually lose service with the T-Mobile phone, while the Verizon CDMA phone works just fine (though it may be roaming, but at least I can still place/receive calls). GSM service (at least T-Mobile's) just isn't quite there yet in the US as far as I'm concerned. It's a real shame, too - I've got this perfectly good Treo 180 sitting here unused...
I don't think that one can extrapolate the service at one's house to the entire US.
But I don't live in the entire US, do I? I live in my house, you see. So that's where I need T-Mobile to provide good service, and they don't. It doesn't matter if they cover every square inch of the world except my house, does it?
I use T-Mobile in the US and in Europe (same phone) and am very happy with the service.
T-Mobile (on a Treo 180) works great for me in Europe, but it sucks ass in the States. I can't even get service at my own house (which is in a crowded suburban area, less than a mile from a shopping mall). Meanwhile, my CDMA StarTAC (Verizon) works fine.
I just want a phone that fits easily in the pocket of my jeans (has to coexist with my keys) and, pay attention now, gets good reception.
It's called the Motorola StarTAC. Maybe when the Treo 600 comes out I'll sell you mine. (Yeah... right. You can have it when you pry it out of my cold dead hands!)
Seriously, where do you get off with this religious conviction that everyone should open their source to the world and think that they could still afford to stay in business?
Gee, I dunno... maybe from the fact that they are making money on open source code?
We -- homo sapiens -- suck at eating tough vegetation compared to earlier relatives, which went extinct ages ago.
That's all fine and good when talking about one species vs. another - and it is germane to why Windows is so much more successful than QNX overall. However, QNX isn't about "species survival" (translate "market share") - it's about ensuring that individual systems survive robustly, under all kinds of conditions. Apples and oranges, you see.
I know, Baltimore sent me a nice picture of my car heading through the red light 0.3 seconds after it turned, complete with a close-up of my license plate. In return, I sent them $75. As much as I was annoyed at the time, it's a damn good idea, given the number of people that run the stupid things.
I'll bet that, if they genuinely cared about safety instead of giving out tickets, they could solve the problem just as effectively by simply lengthening the yellow-light duration by a half a second or so. But noooooo...
LA is a very reconizable term for Las [sic] Angeles, At least it is here in the US.
Interesting. Is North America the only place where cities/states/provinces are typically (i.e. as in conversationally) referred by initials? e.g. NYC, MA(aaah-ssachussetts), LA, K(ansas) C(ity), S(an) F(rancisco), TO(ronto), B(ritish) C(olumbia), etc.?
and you can bet your bottom dollar that the US government would intervene if a movie were to be released in the country showed terrorism in a positive light
Um, really? Ever seen a movie called Arlington Road? Tim Robbins and Joan Cusack as the pleasant terrorist family next door. Or another movie called Path To Paradise, which is the story of the first World Trade Center bombing - told from the terrorists' point of view?
But what about that other activity that is associated with a man, and his wrist. Is it a significant risk factor?
I dunno - does your "friend" engage in... that other activity... eight hours a day, five days a week? If so, well, then your "friend" probably has other issues to deal with.
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I have a Tandy 102 without a working "P" on the keyboard someone could have. Maybe it would be neat to write a OS without using any P's.
If you're not friends with P, then you're not friends with me. Friends of P, friends of P...
Says Stallman:
To copy Unix source code would not be ethically wrong, but it is illegal
Uh...? It's one thing to advocate Free Software, I can even live with advocating that people stop using proprietary software, but this seems to imply that RMS thinks it's OK to willfully and intentionally violate licensing agreements that one has (presumably) voluntarily accepted? That's going a bit far.
At least you didn't spit out some nonsense about Harry Potter dying at the end of Matrix Revolutions
You mean... you mean you didn't know? Oops.
That being the case, there will always be people who respond to questions with "RTFM j00 n00b."
That's true, of course. But in my (purely anecdotal and by no means exhaustive) personal experience, there is a greater concentration of such individuals in the free/open source world than in the commercial world. Perhaps one reason for this is that being rude/obnoxious to your potential customers isn't a good way to get them to give you money.
And
Say, that reminds me... where the hell's my personal jetpack? And my gleaming alloy aircar? I mean, this is the XXI Century, isn't it??
The only redeeming factor in that craporama that was Red Planet
C'mon, now, Carrie-Anne Moss is a redeeming factor in any movie.
If you think that my attitude is the only thing preventing linux from beating windows on the desktop then you are quite possibly the stupidest person on the planet.
Gee, there you go again. You should work at a help desk, or maybe as a product evangelist. The world should not be denied the benefit of your people-skills.
Once again so what? Do I really care if some clueless twit isn't using linux? I am happy they aren't using linux. They should stay as far away from linux as possible. Using linux will in all likelyhood make their little heads explode.
It is exactly this sort of attitude that guarantees that Linux will never beat Windows on the desktop. Which, of course, I'm sure is just fine with certain members of the propellerhead crowd...
I'm just glad to hear that all that money is going to a good cause, unlike many other tlds such as
I thought the island of Tuvalu was supposed to get at least $4 million for the .tv franchise. That's not significant?
It's constantly amazing to me too how many of the Gnu-Uber-Alles folks don't really understand that they are giving their work away for free and can not reasonably expect anything in return. Not a salary, not an occasional trip, not even acknowledgement. Free means free, you can't expect jack in return. Those are the terms you choose when you use the GPL!
If viewed with respect to a single piece of software you've written, then this is true. But when viewed from the perspective of a society of people developing GPL software, then what you can "expect in return" is access to a host of other people's GPL software, available for your own use.
You said, "T-Mobile
That's fine. But I'd still stand by my original statement. T-Mobile's coverage is usually OK in major cities. Get outside of those major cities, though, and the service disappears quickly. For instance, when I go on road trips to upstate NY or (non-Boston) MA, I usually lose service with the T-Mobile phone, while the Verizon CDMA phone works just fine (though it may be roaming, but at least I can still place/receive calls). GSM service (at least T-Mobile's) just isn't quite there yet in the US as far as I'm concerned. It's a real shame, too - I've got this perfectly good Treo 180 sitting here unused...
I don't think that one can extrapolate the service at one's house to the entire US.
But I don't live in the entire US, do I? I live in my house, you see. So that's where I need T-Mobile to provide good service, and they don't. It doesn't matter if they cover every square inch of the world except my house, does it?
I use T-Mobile in the US and in Europe (same phone) and am very happy with the service.
T-Mobile (on a Treo 180) works great for me in Europe, but it sucks ass in the States. I can't even get service at my own house (which is in a crowded suburban area, less than a mile from a shopping mall). Meanwhile, my CDMA StarTAC (Verizon) works fine.
I just want a phone that fits easily in the pocket of my jeans (has to coexist with my keys) and, pay attention now, gets good reception.
It's called the Motorola StarTAC. Maybe when the Treo 600 comes out I'll sell you mine. (Yeah... right. You can have it when you pry it out of my cold dead hands!)
Seriously, where do you get off with this religious conviction that everyone should open their source to the world and think that they could still afford to stay in business?
Gee, I dunno... maybe from the fact that they are making money on open source code?
We -- homo sapiens -- suck at eating tough vegetation compared to earlier relatives, which went extinct ages ago.
That's all fine and good when talking about one species vs. another - and it is germane to why Windows is so much more successful than QNX overall. However, QNX isn't about "species survival" (translate "market share") - it's about ensuring that individual systems survive robustly, under all kinds of conditions. Apples and oranges, you see.
Excuse my ignorance but what is List Poisoning?
Something that LISP has been able to do for decades, silly.
I know, Baltimore sent me a nice picture of my car heading through the red light 0.3 seconds after it turned, complete with a close-up of my license plate. In return, I sent them $75. As much as I was annoyed at the time, it's a damn good idea, given the number of people that run the stupid things.
I'll bet that, if they genuinely cared about safety instead of giving out tickets, they could solve the problem just as effectively by simply lengthening the yellow-light duration by a half a second or so. But noooooo...
a 78 year old person with elevated Pu in their bones will only have a 0.14285 probability of dying this year
That's all? I would've figure that anyone who's got Poo in their bones would be pretty much a goner. Oh - sorry...
But couldn't they do even better by simply replacing the tank with a third SRB?
Shuttle + payload + 3 SRBs: 4.135 million pounds.
Thrust of 3 SRBs: 9.9 million pounds.
Thrust-to-Weight: ~2.4.
What am I missing here?
but wait, zil.la is still available
Nope. [sigh]
Something/s had to come from nothing.
Who said it did? What definitive proof is there that there was ever a time at which there literally was nothing?
LA is a very reconizable term for Las [sic] Angeles, At least it is here in the US.
Interesting. Is North America the only place where cities/states/provinces are typically (i.e. as in conversationally) referred by initials? e.g. NYC, MA(aaah-ssachussetts), LA, K(ansas) C(ity), S(an) F(rancisco), TO(ronto), B(ritish) C(olumbia), etc.?
and you can bet your bottom dollar that the US government would intervene if a movie were to be released in the country showed terrorism in a positive light
Um, really? Ever seen a movie called Arlington Road? Tim Robbins and Joan Cusack as the pleasant terrorist family next door. Or another movie called Path To Paradise, which is the story of the first World Trade Center bombing - told from the terrorists' point of view?
But what about that other activity that is associated with a man, and his wrist. Is it a significant risk factor?
I dunno - does your "friend" engage in... that other activity... eight hours a day, five days a week? If so, well, then your "friend" probably has other issues to deal with.