Odd, the last aftermarket radio i bought for a car had one. A basic unit ~$150. So i guess you should put your money where your mouth is and only purchase units that have that feature. If everyone did that that is all companies would make.
As others have said, lots of cars now come with that standard. If you don't have it, you may be able to add line it via CD changer or other input. (yes and extra purchase)
If not everyone avoids units without, apparently it's not that important.
I guess I don't keep up with iPhone news outside the US...but is this really something that is done outside the US. If that's the case I now think even less of Att, didn't know that was possible!!!
A quick google search only says USB is to be enabled in future software release. I've not really looked too hard to see if the future support is outlined anywhere.
However with items like the 4500 6-e shipping with BOTH usb A and B ports. My guess would be, the A type port for OS loads, via flash drive. And the B port possibly for management????
Cisco has been adding USB to new supervisors, some units they say they are "for furture use" so i'm not sure if USB today can replace Serial, but some units are getting the physical port today...
So i guess it's not too crazy to think that someday. But yes, I don't enjoy hunting for a laptop that still has serial. (usb2serial is not ideal as built int)
I did the slashdot non-normal thing and decided to check this claim wiht AACS LA. The press contact is listed as anna.vrecheck@edelman.com, however. After sending a request to confirm the statements in the main article. I get a failure: This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.
Sorry to break it to you, but your $19.99 router from radio shack, can't handle 100Mbps from trust untrust. You'd have to pay significantly more to get that.
Many small routers even list the untrust port as only 10Mbps....check the firewall performance spec, and then if you're doing something fun like VPN, check the VPN performance, that will be even less than firewall performance.
Above is correct, they are very regional. but coverage in those regions is ABOVE and beyond. Coverage in basements and out far from the city is typical, within one of the covered regions of course. The local area here is at least half the state, but two states over coverage is very basic, phone still worked while traveling there, as voice and data, but data was SLOW, think 33.6k feel.
But I don't travel there too much so it was fine since it did still work.
The reason you always see them in cars is that the two under discussion (Panasonic/dell) are the only two that have automotive docks. And by automotive dock, I'm saying a docking station that is integrated into a pedestal that is designed to be bolted to a vehicle floor.
Does this mean you couldn't use any standard dock with it's matching standard laptop, well no. But that would be home brew, and I'm guessing would not work for very long under the vibrations produced from a running and moving vehicle.
But I generally agree with the article, (am i allowed to do that here?) the Dell rugged books don't seem any more durable than the old "D" series, which just a few years ago was the standard business laptop. The "D" series in my, meaningless, opinion was a good durable laptop, not a rugged, but good. The new "E" series seem cheaper than the home grade laptops of a few years ago. One demo E series finger pressure on the hing side would release the latches on the other side!!!
I guess that bit locker may be the only reason i've heard so far, to go with win7. But i'm going to say no thank you at the extra price since bitlocker is only available in the ultimate edition.
For the extra $50 added to the PC of upgrading to ultimate/enterprise editions , i'd rather purchase a PGP solution that will encrypt stuff like emails (automatically via outlook) has a blackberry client for reading/sending encrypted email, and can have encrypted network files that are shared to other users via a enterprise key server. Along with recovery tokens for desktop techs....
No bitlocker is basically just good enough, like IE is just good enough to download firefox. And since I don't need bitlocker to download a real encryption tool, I don't need it at all.
so basically you're not planning to upgrade, because stuff that works OK now won't work as good after. I think we are on the same page.
I disagree with the 8 year old machines. I don't have any machine out of the few thousand around here that are 8 years old. Most are less than 3-4, maybe a rare one is older. But we're still formatting and installing XP. And what feature of Win7 will make that change?
I know why we switched from NT4 to 2000, and from 2000 to 2003/xp. What will be the reason for the switch to win 7?
And dropping support for XP isn't a good reason to me.
...that came from this feedback, that makes businesses using XP want to switch? We all know why NOBODY switched to Vista, so why would anyone switch to win7?
Please, I'm not asking why should NOT switch, we all know that answer. But someone please explain why we SHOULD move to win7 !
I think there is a product that does exactly what you are asking for. Muzak or some play on words. pay a fee, get a unit that can catch the stream and it's commercial free music you can play in your business.
anybody work in retail or other that can confirm this product?
The benefits are many, costs (cooling, power, less hardware) Redundancy, DR, HA, recovery time. In some cases OS licensing, Win Datacenter is priced by physical CPU socket, and then you can downgrade and back rev as needed. Also, MS-SQL enterprise is priced the same, physical socket. With the cost savings its hard NOT to virtualize these days.
And on the IT side, it's actually EASIER to manage a virtual infrastructure than a physical one. Want to change the hardware in a VM, add CPU/RAM/DISKS, it's a mouse click away.
So, i'm sorry for feeding the troll, but with it modded Insightful, i had to explain WHY VMs are a benefit.
Please don't say that off the shelf software is better and cheaper. I think you should say Managment "THINKS it's better and cheaper" Not to start an product flame war, so i won't give names. But i've seem some in-house built stuff replaced by six figure software that didn't do as good a job, and the in-house stuff was done by one guy in his spare hours!!! SO is it really all better and cheaper, no, does management think so, yes.
Sorry, now that I read your link, it provides the method of defeating the lock down.
I didn't even have to google it!
Sorry, this will not meet corp requirements.
Auto download by each client is not acceptable.
First downloads need to be to a central repository, saving WAN bandwidth.
Second updates need to be reported to a central server so that reports can be run to identify machines that are having problems updating. Yes in large setups you will find at least a small percentage of apps that don't update, even windows updates sometimes require a little kick to go on a few machines.
Sorry, I was asking for a built in standardized solution. Not an add on, as I said in my first post.
I did google, several times. Post a reply AFTER you actually setup that solution.
I've at least read the docs on some of them and was never satisfied by any.
All the decent solutions that meet corporate requirements are not easy to setup. That is assuming they even work. The ony good one that I've found is shavlik, which had purchased but since dropped.
It says that it will be deployable, I can deploy any.EXE today. Is it going to ENFORCE company standards for those settings, or is this just a lame, change the defaults?
Will it support pushing minor patches? will it support major upgrades? or does that require a full re-install?
Will it support managing the settings of the application sort of like group policy can for IE? (even if it's not AD integrated)
(Please don't bother saying that app X or app Y require IE, i know that, I'm making a point as to why businesses don't want to support firefox. And by guarantee, I mean without 3rd party products like Shavlik)
Last I was at a local one with my laptop I had to pay. Not that I would, caused me to shutdown and go home. Is that just a local thing or has the policy changed at all locations?
I know it won't be popular with this group, but don't mod down for that. A good IT person will consider all options.
Why communicator? Given the industry, there are specific regulations that may apply. Possibly SOX/PCI/HIPPA. I know that Communicator does fine with SOX and PCI, if setup right.
But I'll admit there may be FOSS that do meet those requirements, I just can't speak to those.
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Odd, the last aftermarket radio i bought for a car had one. A basic unit ~$150. So i guess you should put your money where your mouth is and only purchase units that have that feature. If everyone did that that is all companies would make.
As others have said, lots of cars now come with that standard. If you don't have it, you may be able to add line it via CD changer or other input. (yes and extra purchase)
If not everyone avoids units without, apparently it's not that important.
I guess I don't keep up with iPhone news outside the US...but is this really something that is done outside the US. If that's the case I now think even less of Att, didn't know that was possible!!!
A quick google search only says USB is to be enabled in future software release. I've not really looked too hard to see if the future support is outlined anywhere.
However with items like the 4500 6-e shipping with BOTH usb A and B ports. My guess would be, the A type port for OS loads, via flash drive. And the B port possibly for management????
Cisco has been adding USB to new supervisors, some units they say they are "for furture use" so i'm not sure if USB today can replace Serial, but some units are getting the physical port today...
So i guess it's not too crazy to think that someday. But yes, I don't enjoy hunting for a laptop that still has serial. (usb2serial is not ideal as built int)
I did the slashdot non-normal thing and decided to check this claim wiht AACS LA. The press contact is listed as anna.vrecheck@edelman.com, however. After sending a request to confirm the statements in the main article. I get a failure: This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.
Delivery to the following recipients failed.
anna.vrecheck@edelman.com
Sorry to break it to you, but your $19.99 router from radio shack, can't handle 100Mbps from trust untrust. You'd have to pay significantly more to get that.
Many small routers even list the untrust port as only 10Mbps....check the firewall performance spec, and then if you're doing something fun like VPN, check the VPN performance, that will be even less than firewall performance.
Just an FYI.
Above is correct, they are very regional. but coverage in those regions is ABOVE and beyond. Coverage in basements and out far from the city is typical, within one of the covered regions of course. The local area here is at least half the state, but two states over coverage is very basic, phone still worked while traveling there, as voice and data, but data was SLOW, think 33.6k feel.
But I don't travel there too much so it was fine since it did still work.
....You get pizza for overnights?
all i get is stale chips out of a vending machine, paid for by me.
The reason you always see them in cars is that the two under discussion (Panasonic/dell) are the only two that have automotive docks. And by automotive dock, I'm saying a docking station that is integrated into a pedestal that is designed to be bolted to a vehicle floor.
Does this mean you couldn't use any standard dock with it's matching standard laptop, well no. But that would be home brew, and I'm guessing would not work for very long under the vibrations produced from a running and moving vehicle.
But I generally agree with the article, (am i allowed to do that here?) the Dell rugged books don't seem any more durable than the old "D" series, which just a few years ago was the standard business laptop. The "D" series in my, meaningless, opinion was a good durable laptop, not a rugged, but good. The new "E" series seem cheaper than the home grade laptops of a few years ago. One demo E series finger pressure on the hing side would release the latches on the other side!!!
I guess that bit locker may be the only reason i've heard so far, to go with win7. But i'm going to say no thank you at the extra price since bitlocker is only available in the ultimate edition.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/compare
For the extra $50 added to the PC of upgrading to ultimate/enterprise editions , i'd rather purchase a PGP solution that will encrypt stuff like emails (automatically via outlook) has a blackberry client for reading/sending encrypted email, and can have encrypted network files that are shared to other users via a enterprise key server. Along with recovery tokens for desktop techs....
No bitlocker is basically just good enough, like IE is just good enough to download firefox. And since I don't need bitlocker to download a real encryption tool, I don't need it at all.
so basically you're not planning to upgrade, because stuff that works OK now won't work as good after. I think we are on the same page.
I disagree with the 8 year old machines. I don't have any machine out of the few thousand around here that are 8 years old. Most are less than 3-4, maybe a rare one is older. But we're still formatting and installing XP. And what feature of Win7 will make that change?
I know why we switched from NT4 to 2000, and from 2000 to 2003/xp.
What will be the reason for the switch to win 7?
And dropping support for XP isn't a good reason to me.
...that came from this feedback, that makes businesses using XP want to switch? We all know why NOBODY switched to Vista, so why would anyone switch to win7?
Please, I'm not asking why should NOT switch, we all know that answer. But someone please explain why we SHOULD move to win7 !
I think there is a product that does exactly what you are asking for. Muzak or some play on words. pay a fee, get a unit that can catch the stream and it's commercial free music you can play in your business.
anybody work in retail or other that can confirm this product?
The benefits are many, costs (cooling, power, less hardware) Redundancy, DR, HA, recovery time. In some cases OS licensing, Win Datacenter is priced by physical CPU socket, and then you can downgrade and back rev as needed. Also, MS-SQL enterprise is priced the same, physical socket. With the cost savings its hard NOT to virtualize these days.
And on the IT side, it's actually EASIER to manage a virtual infrastructure than a physical one. Want to change the hardware in a VM, add CPU/RAM/DISKS, it's a mouse click away.
So, i'm sorry for feeding the troll, but with it modded Insightful, i had to explain WHY VMs are a benefit.
Please don't say that off the shelf software is better and cheaper. I think you should say Managment "THINKS it's better and cheaper" Not to start an product flame war, so i won't give names. But i've seem some in-house built stuff replaced by six figure software that didn't do as good a job, and the in-house stuff was done by one guy in his spare hours!!! SO is it really all better and cheaper, no, does management think so, yes.
a single number that goes up one digit everytime there is a code change is called build number.
Sorry, now that I read your link, it provides the method of defeating the lock down.
I didn't even have to google it!
Sorry, this will not meet corp requirements.
Auto download by each client is not acceptable.
First downloads need to be to a central repository, saving WAN bandwidth.
Second updates need to be reported to a central server so that reports can be run to identify machines that are having problems updating. Yes in large setups you will find at least a small percentage of apps that don't update, even windows updates sometimes require a little kick to go on a few machines.
Sorry, I was asking for a built in standardized solution. Not an add on, as I said in my first post.
I did google, several times.
Post a reply AFTER you actually setup that solution.
I've at least read the docs on some of them and was never satisfied by any.
All the decent solutions that meet corporate requirements are not easy to setup. That is assuming they even work. The ony good one that I've found is shavlik, which had purchased but since dropped.
It says that it will be deployable, I can deploy any .EXE today. Is it going to ENFORCE company standards for those settings, or is this just a lame, change the defaults?
Will it support pushing minor patches? will it support major upgrades? or does that require a full re-install?
Will it support managing the settings of the application sort of like group policy can for IE? (even if it's not AD integrated)
-me
Can you guarantee that Firefox is patched? No.
Can you guarantee that IE is patched? Yes.
That is why businesses use IE, period.
(Please don't bother saying that app X or app Y require IE, i know that, I'm making a point as to why businesses don't want to support firefox. And by guarantee, I mean without 3rd party products like Shavlik)
Sorry to reply to myself, but this link seems to indicate there is a charge.
http://www.mcdonalds.com/wireless/general_info.html
This is on topic since the Title indicates free.
Last I was at a local one with my laptop I had to pay. Not that I would, caused me to shutdown and go home. Is that just a local thing or has the policy changed at all locations?
Communicator.
I know it won't be popular with this group, but don't mod down for that. A good IT person will consider all options.
Why communicator?
Given the industry, there are specific regulations that may apply. Possibly SOX/PCI/HIPPA. I know that Communicator does fine with SOX and PCI, if setup right.
But I'll admit there may be FOSS that do meet those requirements, I just can't speak to those.
10,000 is large and 100,000 is mid size???
OK I see the + after the 10,000 but still i'm confused.
when was the last time you ever actually uninstalled a windows app and had it uninstall EVERYTHING?
Sorry just trying to figure out if this is flame bait or a genuine statement.