Ummm, what does this have to do with living in Europe or States? I mean, we were talking about Japanese car! I just have hard time comparing Mazda to an established and respected sportscar-manufacturer like Porsche. Well, judging from your comment, you are just another ricer;).
The Viper is a friggin Chrysler (Or Dodge. Whatever), 'nuff said. It might have the raw power, but it doesn't have the refinement nor the quality. And why make a big deal about it being American made?
Porsche has nothing to do with Volkswagen. And besides, I would take a Volkswagen over Chrysler anyday.
Uh, R200-path is for Radeon 8500 and the like, not the 9xxx-series. 9xxx-series uses ARB2, since it looks better. The ARB2 is the standard OpenGL-codepath, not a "Specially tweaked for Ati"-codepath.
Ati runs the default OpenGL-codepath better than NV does. NV needs the "tweaked for NV"-codepath in order to get acceptable performance. And that's because shaders in NV-hardware suck. And because of those shaders, NV sucks at DX9-games and they need specific OpenGL-codepath in OpenGL-games that use those shaders.
What does John Carmack say about this? he says this:
We emailed id Software guru, John Carmack about his experience with NV3x hardware on Pixel Shading performance, and this was his reply:
GD: John, we've found that NVIDIA hardware seems to come to a crawl whenever Pixel Shader's are involved, namely PS 2.0..
Have you witnessed any of this while testing under the Doom3 environment?
"Yes. NV30 class hardware can run the ARB2 path that uses ARB_fragment_program, but it is very slow, which is why I have a separate NV30 back end that uses NV_fragment_program to specify most of the operations as 12 or 16 bit instead of 32 bit."
What on earth are you talking about? Ati-cards don't need specific codepaths because they stick to the standards (OpenGL and DX9). NV-cards need specific codepath because they don't follow the spec.
When the game uses the standard DX9-codepath it shines on Ati-cards, because the standard codepath is the thing Ati supports. By contrast NV-cards need specific codepaths to get reasonable performance.
Carmack said that if you use standard codepath in Doom3 with an NV-card, you will get piss-poor performance. That's why they coded a specific codepath for NV-vards. Ati didn't need any specific tweaks since their cards work with the standard codepath.
Yet, it pales in comparison to the accomplishment that "could have been" if they had collaborated with the Gnome team
Then talk to the Gnome-team. After all, it was the Gnome-folks who set out to reinvent the wheel. KDE was started before Gnome was even a twinkle in de Icazas eyes.
And besides, "standard desktop" on Linux is not possible. People will run whatever suits their needs, you can't force them to run some "standard desktop". Besides, competition between the two desktops is a GOOD thing!
These results mirror 3DMark03-results perfectly. It seems that NV's DX9-support is horribly broken. Why else would their cards need separate codepath (In HL2 and in D3(Although D3 is OpenGL-game, it uses many of the same features)) whereas Ati-cards do not? Carmack has said that if D3 does not use the NV-specific codepath, NV-cards will have poor performance.
So, it boils down on how fast the destruction occurs? The number of casualties is Hiroshima is about as big as number of casualties in Tokyo or Dresden. How exactly is Hiroshima worse than either of those two? Because it all happened in an instant? How so? Is Hiroshima worse because "twice as many people died in 1 second at Hiroshima as did in one day at Dresden." (the bombing of Dresden took 1 day, are you saying that total casualtios of Dresden are lower than on first 1 second of Hiroshima? I don't think so). So?
It's the overall number of casualties that count. After the Allied were finished with Dresden, 85% of the city was destroyed and 35.000 - 135.000 people had lost their lives (best estimates put the figure somewhere around 100.000). And I have seen figures that say that about 66.000 died in Hiroshima, which would put it below Dresden.
Well, USA isn't the bastion of humar rights really. Or how do you explain all those prisoners in Guantanamo that are being held there without being charged of any crime?
And while I live in a western democracy, I don't think I or my country has any right to impose my form of government on to other sovereign nations against their will.
Re. War in Iraq: I find it rather strange that first USA walks all over UN and invades Iraq (against international law BTW). Now that they have screwed up the situation with more and more soldiers dying every day, they whine and insist that UN must carry their part (read: costs) of restructuring Iraq. Of course, UN would carry the costs of restructuring, but real power and authority in the country would remain is US hands.
Maybe USA should have thought about that before pissing on UN. Why should UN try to correct the mistakes USA did? Why should they foot the bill while USA refuses to relieve it's control of the country?
BTW, have they found any WMD's yet? After all, they were the reason for the invasion of Iraq.
Personally, I've nothing against the idea of pre-emptive self defense...
OK. Could the rest of the world then invade USA? I mean, USA seems to be the biggest threat to world peace these days, invading other sovereign countries at whim. I mean, there's nothing wrong with pre-emptive self-defence, right?
Why shouldn't it be mentioned? Or are you saying that if someone mentions that "Yes, US has overthrown democratically-elected leaders and put brutal dictators in their place", it just shows that those people are "anti-american"? I mean, they are merely stating a fact? Do we have to glorify USA all the time, and if we fail to do so, we are "anti-american"?
I for one find the whole deal in Chile a perfect example of american hypocrisy. Democratically elected leaders are OK only as long as they agree with USA. If they don't, they are bad and must be got rid of. That puts the whole "US's crusade against tyranny and dictators" in to a whole new perspective wouldn't you say?
Let me get this straight: KDE protested against software-patents. Now, software-patents are an issue that relates directly to KDE (and all open-source software for that matter). How did they protest? They closed their website for one day. Then an american KDE-developer decided that since KDE protests against software-patents by closing their website, it's perfectly OK to embed pro-US Army proganda right in to KDE itself. Obviously other KDE-developers disagreed.
Protesting against software-patents (a thing that can have direct implications on the project) is completely different from putting propaganda about US Army in to the desktop itself.
The KDE-developer in question is a moron that has previously been at odds with the other developers (with friends like him, who needs enemies?), and the website you linked to is downright stupid.
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Is X-Chat really a Gnome-program or a program that just happens to use GTK+?
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On a related note, where did this K-ism thing come from? It really bugs me, quite honestly.
Propably from the same place where you got all those Gnome-programs that start with G?
Seriously, the "K-thingy" is just a way to brand the apps as being part of the KDE-environment.
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Ummm, what does this have to do with living in Europe or States? I mean, we were talking about Japanese car! I just have hard time comparing Mazda to an established and respected sportscar-manufacturer like Porsche. Well, judging from your comment, you are just another ricer ;).
The Viper is a friggin Chrysler (Or Dodge. Whatever), 'nuff said. It might have the raw power, but it doesn't have the refinement nor the quality. And why make a big deal about it being American made?
Porsche has nothing to do with Volkswagen. And besides, I would take a Volkswagen over Chrysler anyday.
I thought we were still laughing at them?
I guess so. Some of us prefer real sportcars, whereas others prefer japanese wannabes.
Flamesuit = ON
You should.
Comparing Mazda to a Porsche? What next, comparing Toyota to Lamborghini?
What is Bill Watterson up to these days? I haven't heard from him since he stopped doing C&H.
Ati runs the default OpenGL-codepath better than NV does. NV needs the "tweaked for NV"-codepath in order to get acceptable performance. And that's because shaders in NV-hardware suck. And because of those shaders, NV sucks at DX9-games and they need specific OpenGL-codepath in OpenGL-games that use those shaders.
What does John Carmack say about this? he says this:
Source: http://www.gamersdepot.com/hardware/video_cards/a
What on earth are you talking about? Ati-cards don't need specific codepaths because they stick to the standards (OpenGL and DX9). NV-cards need specific codepath because they don't follow the spec.
When the game uses the standard DX9-codepath it shines on Ati-cards, because the standard codepath is the thing Ati supports. By contrast NV-cards need specific codepaths to get reasonable performance.
Carmack said that if you use standard codepath in Doom3 with an NV-card, you will get piss-poor performance. That's why they coded a specific codepath for NV-vards. Ati didn't need any specific tweaks since their cards work with the standard codepath.
Then talk to the Gnome-team. After all, it was the Gnome-folks who set out to reinvent the wheel. KDE was started before Gnome was even a twinkle in de Icazas eyes.
And besides, "standard desktop" on Linux is not possible. People will run whatever suits their needs, you can't force them to run some "standard desktop". Besides, competition between the two desktops is a GOOD thing!
These results mirror 3DMark03-results perfectly. It seems that NV's DX9-support is horribly broken. Why else would their cards need separate codepath (In HL2 and in D3(Although D3 is OpenGL-game, it uses many of the same features)) whereas Ati-cards do not? Carmack has said that if D3 does not use the NV-specific codepath, NV-cards will have poor performance.
But Oppenheimer really was a communist.
So, it boils down on how fast the destruction occurs? The number of casualties is Hiroshima is about as big as number of casualties in Tokyo or Dresden. How exactly is Hiroshima worse than either of those two? Because it all happened in an instant? How so? Is Hiroshima worse because "twice as many people died in 1 second at Hiroshima as did in one day at Dresden." (the bombing of Dresden took 1 day, are you saying that total casualtios of Dresden are lower than on first 1 second of Hiroshima? I don't think so). So?
It's the overall number of casualties that count. After the Allied were finished with Dresden, 85% of the city was destroyed and 35.000 - 135.000 people had lost their lives (best estimates put the figure somewhere around 100.000). And I have seen figures that say that about 66.000 died in Hiroshima, which would put it below Dresden.
Nagasaki is considerably below any of those three
Hey Darl
Fuck you!
Well, USA isn't the bastion of humar rights really. Or how do you explain all those prisoners in Guantanamo that are being held there without being charged of any crime?
And while I live in a western democracy, I don't think I or my country has any right to impose my form of government on to other sovereign nations against their will.
Re. War in Iraq: I find it rather strange that first USA walks all over UN and invades Iraq (against international law BTW). Now that they have screwed up the situation with more and more soldiers dying every day, they whine and insist that UN must carry their part (read: costs) of restructuring Iraq. Of course, UN would carry the costs of restructuring, but real power and authority in the country would remain is US hands.
Maybe USA should have thought about that before pissing on UN. Why should UN try to correct the mistakes USA did? Why should they foot the bill while USA refuses to relieve it's control of the country?
BTW, have they found any WMD's yet? After all, they were the reason for the invasion of Iraq.
OK. Could the rest of the world then invade USA? I mean, USA seems to be the biggest threat to world peace these days, invading other sovereign countries at whim. I mean, there's nothing wrong with pre-emptive self-defence, right?
Why shouldn't it be mentioned? Or are you saying that if someone mentions that "Yes, US has overthrown democratically-elected leaders and put brutal dictators in their place", it just shows that those people are "anti-american"? I mean, they are merely stating a fact? Do we have to glorify USA all the time, and if we fail to do so, we are "anti-american"?
I for one find the whole deal in Chile a perfect example of american hypocrisy. Democratically elected leaders are OK only as long as they agree with USA. If they don't, they are bad and must be got rid of. That puts the whole "US's crusade against tyranny and dictators" in to a whole new perspective wouldn't you say?
Ummmm... Somebody set up us the bomb?
You can't drive on wet roads? Uhhhh, maybe you should go back to driving-school.
Talk to your operator. I have exactly ZERO problems with my connection. But then again, I'm in Finland, so....
Let me think about that for a sec. Ummmmm.... No.
Let me get this straight: KDE protested against software-patents. Now, software-patents are an issue that relates directly to KDE (and all open-source software for that matter). How did they protest? They closed their website for one day. Then an american KDE-developer decided that since KDE protests against software-patents by closing their website, it's perfectly OK to embed pro-US Army proganda right in to KDE itself. Obviously other KDE-developers disagreed.
Protesting against software-patents (a thing that can have direct implications on the project) is completely different from putting propaganda about US Army in to the desktop itself.
The KDE-developer in question is a moron that has previously been at odds with the other developers (with friends like him, who needs enemies?), and the website you linked to is downright stupid.
Is X-Chat really a Gnome-program or a program that just happens to use GTK+?
Propably from the same place where you got all those Gnome-programs that start with G?
Seriously, the "K-thingy" is just a way to brand the apps as being part of the KDE-environment.
We,, it is AMD's invention and AMD is the primary company developing it.