I saw this movie. I move in, everything's cool, but then there's this little boy meowing at me and a creepy girl spider-walking down the stairs. Thanks but no thanks!
The 2016 version of Vizio's P series came with a VERY basic IR remote and the rest of the setup and features were controlled through an app (on either the included Android tablet or installable on an iPhone.) Which basically mandated that the TV was on the wireless network all of the time.
They ditched this for the 2017 models for ease of use, but how long before another manufacturer tries this again and manages to make it stick?
No you don't. When you prepay inside they're only authorizing the card for that amount. The card doesn't get charged until you finish pumping. So if you prepay $50 and only pump $40, you're fine. The extra $10 might get "held" for a bit on the card, but you'll never see it on the statement, it's just credit limit you can't use until it falls off. Checking into a hotel works exactly the same way, and no one has a problem doing that...
Yup. Happens to us on Windows 7, 32 and 64 bit. Different hardware, different generations of machine images, etc. It's still a problem in 60 (the Canary track) so no, they haven't fixed it yet.
From the summary Tron:Legacy grossed $400 million from $170 million - that's a success even by Hollywood "hide the profits to avoid royalty payments" maths.
Eh, it's closer than that. Studios see 50-55% of the domestic box office and anywhere between 15-50% of the foreign box office (depending on how much of a cut the distributor in a particular country takes.)
Tron 2 did $172 mil domestically (so figure the studio got $86-$95 mil) and $228 mil internationally (so that take isn't going to be any higher than $114 mil MAX, and probably a lot lower.) So that's $209 million at the very top end, against a production budget of $170 mil. If that $170 mil includes marketing costs (everyone reports that differently) then you're looking at anything from a mild profit to a mild loss overall. If you figure an additional $10-20 million was spent on marketing, we're a lot closer to "losing money no matter what" territory. Yes DVD sales will help them profit in the long run, but a success or failure is generally measured at the box office.
I can see them doing this - there's no indication that Tron 3 would make _more_ money than Tron 2 did at the box office, and it could very well make less. They've weathered the nuclear bombs of John Carter, The Lone Ranger, and now Tomorrowland all in the past couple of years - it makes sense that they're going to stick with franchises where they can print money.
As the article points out, the only reason this was able to work was because one of the upstreams didn't filter announcements correctly. So instead of one provider doing something simple, the "fix" is for the rest of the world to do something complex?
Back in the day if a provider dicked around with BGP enough (either through incompetence or malice) they would find that eventually no one would accept any prefixes originating from their network. Kind of hard to have customers when the rest of the internet won't accept your traffic, isn't it?
BGP4 was new and exciting in 1994, and people are still doing it incorrectly. Film at 11.
My personal favorite - and one I was dinged on several times before I learned to basically just lie my ass off about it - was how many servers I've been responsible for at one time. At some ISP jobs I've had, I've had to touch hundreds of unique servers while helping clients, but only had maybe 20-30 to worry about day to day. But companies hiring based on this metric want to hear that you were administering 200+, 500+, whatever number of servers on a daily basis. This is bullshit for two main reasons:
1. No single person is personally touching dozens or hundreds of servers on a daily or even weekly basis. A _team_ of people might, but a person isn't. 2. Once you get into a mid double digit number of servers (or sometimes even sooner) you're using automation stuff like Chef or CFEngine or BladeLogic or whatever. At that point 50, 100, 500, 5000 servers become rapidly irrelevant, because you're thinking in terms of a single task affecting an arbitrary number of servers, not a one-to-one situation. You're not logging into each individual server and firing off Windows Update every Patch Tuesday. In fact if you're wasting your time doing crap like that I would argue you're not a very good system administrator, because you're not learning and growing, you're simply caring and feeding.
NAT is NOT a firewall. Meaning that you haven't hid anything and you are not secure. Also NAT is a huge reason why IPSec doesn't work. It breaks the internet.
Oh look, it's one of those purist types.
If an arbitrary host can't reach through my router and connect to an arbitrary device in my home network, guess what? That's effectively a firewall. Yes it's not a _packet filtering_ firewall, but who cares? The end effect is the same. NAT takes multiple devices that only need to connect to other internet hosts (not be connected to themselves) and lets it work.
In a NAT situation, the return packets from the host my PC is surfing to are translated so it all functions. If that same PC were on a public IP, a stateful firewall would open the return ports so the packets could get back to the PC from the web server. Care to tell me what's insecure about one vs. secure about the other? Unless there's actual inspection going on, those return packets could have the same bad data in them regardless. I'm not "more secure" simply because a slightly smarter device managed to let me make the same de facto connection to a web server that a basic NAT device would. I'm only _truly_ secure if my intermediate device, be it a NAT router or a stateful firewall, can actually inspect the return traffic and stop it from reaching my PC if it's bogus or bad.
And IPSec didn't take off because it was WAY too complex, and stupid parts of it like AH mode and transport mode should have never made it in. There are multiple overlapping ways to do the same thing and there didn't need to be.
For SNI, you can enable it, but you can't rely on it since IE on XP will show SSL errors. However, there are many, many other devices out there aside from IE on XP that don't support SNI.
Most of which are pretty deprecated at this point. Android Honeycomb came out in late 2011, Windows Mobile 6.5 in late 2009, iPhone 4 in mid 2010. All of those (and anything later) are SNI capable. It's pretty much been the "IE on XP" crowd that's holding back adoption, everyone else would be in the 1% "other" category of most web sites.
What if they decide to charge you some insane sum of money for something you did not agree to?
Then I flag it as a fraudulent transaction and let my credit card company handle it? There is nothing a company like Netflix can do to me (and actually manage to pull off) that would be worth my time and money dragging them into court for. This is pretty much true of any company that one has month-to-month dealings with at dollars or tens of dollars per month. Once again, we're not talking about a situation where I sign a contract and the company I'm dealing with can move the goal posts after the fact and tell me to suck it - that's a situation where lawsuits are pretty much the only option.
Yeah, I don't get this at all. If Netflix starts pulling shenanigans I cancel my account and I'm out the $20 for the month, that's it. Why would I even think about bothering to sue them? This isn't like a cell phone situation where you're locked into a contract for two years and if they don't provide the service you think they promised you can't just cancel, so you have to sue them for redress.
Pre-iTunes: CDs for $20-$30 for a dozen songs. That you would still need to rip
Where the hell did you buy your CDs? Most of the music on iTunes is the kind that tends to be sold at discounts at places like Wal Mart or Best Buy, so it's more like $12-15 for a CD. Even when somewhere like Barnes & Noble sells it at full price it's $18 or so.
Do you have a problem reading and understanding the English language? While I appreciate your attempts to credit the definition as my own, it has been an accepted term in security circles for a long time, and I am not the one who came up with it. Nobody worth their salt ever said that 100% security can be achieved, and you are not saying anything that isn't obvious to even a security neophyte like yourself. What is known is that security through obscurity is not an effective method of achieving security, even in deference to the fact that nobody will ever achieve 100% security.
It's a very accepted term, but you're not using the accepted definition. You're equating "obscure" with "secret". If I look at a security algorithm and by doing so enables me to break into whatever it's protecting, that's security through obscurity. If I look at one but still something like keys or passwords, that is NOT security through obscurity. Yes the keys or passwords are "obscure" but they _have_ to be, and that's not what people mean when they use that word.
Ever worked a trade show in a place like Chicago or Las Vegas? No? You have absolutely no idea what the hell you're talking about.
Part of the reason CES left Chicago is the smaller vendors wouldn't/couldn't afford to pay a union electrician the exorbitant minimum fee to do something as simple as plug a device into a power outlet. I kid you not - if you were (for example) a boutique loudspeaker vendor with one product and all you had to do was plug in the power amp/preamp/CD player running the speakers you're demoing and you did it yourself, you better have someone sleeping in your booth or room overnight because the next morning there was a chance something would be damaged, and all anyone could do is shrug. The damage would never happen to the vendors that paid hundreds or thousands of dollars for what amounted to an hour or less of actual electrical work.
It's been the case for years...
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Was able to get into the Winter CES in Chicago back in the early 90s just because I was a register drone at Babbage's (computer software and video game store for you youngn's.) I think they had me down as "buyer" even though I had nothing to do with what the company stocked. Hell a buddy of mine who built PCs in his basement got in with a "technician" badge. As long as you didn't show up with children in tow and could ask reasonably coherent questions they were mostly happy to deal with people that were a half step above "Joe Q. Public."
I didn't mean to suggest anything specific to Apple or Android devices. The point I was trying to make was control of information - in regulated environments we're not going to allow something to connect to the corporate network that is then going to get taken home and synced with a personal computer, I don't care how secure the device itself can be made to be - the instant it touches anything that doesn't have a corporate identity it can no longer be vouched for.
This is like the fifth article this year talking about how users bringing their own devices into a corporate network are inevitable, yadda yadda, and here are some flashy new programs and services to keep it all under control that we happen to have developed and want to sell to you!
Well you know what wins, pundits? PCI and/or HIPPA.
We're PCI compliant at my job, and we're damn sure going to stay that way. That means that yes, you can bring in your iWhatever, and oh look, an open guest wireless network! But you know where that guest network goes? The internet. That's it. You can check your corporate E-mail through the public web interface if you'd like. Don't ask us to help you connect it to the corporate network, because we're going to tell you to go pound sand. And you know what? We're perfectly OK with you being pissed off at us because _you're not the one who's ass is in a sling if credit card information leaks out._ We provide you with all the tools you need to get your job done. You get a nice shiny corporate laptop that you can take anywhere with you (because it will help you VPN in and run your virtual desktop back at the office) and you get a rather impressive smartphone so your E-mail and contacts are never out of reach. You can't sit here and tell me you need MORE than that to do your job effectively.
Something tells me the "dropping two atomic bombs" part of that statement was the key there. When you (Japan) pick a fight with the neighborhood kid (America) who ends up being crazier than you thought - breaking into your house and killing your pets as revenge for kicking him in the nuts - you either make friends with him or you cease to exist. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, and all that. Plus, Japan's economic policies in the 1980s was seen by citizens old enough to _remember_ WWII (and their kids) as just a furtherance of Japan's 1940s goals by other more peaceful means - if you can't own 'em militarily, own 'em economically. "If you don't want Japan to buy it, don't sell it" might be from fiction, but it wasn't far from the truth at the time.
Even when it was Babbage's we opened the display copy of a given console game, and when we'd sell that copy (which was rare unless we were trying to sell through a discontinued item) we'd seal it in shrink wrap and tell the customer, but still treat it as new. (Babbage's didn't deal in used games until after I left in '94 or so, so we really didn't have a provision for discounting like that). The other copies of the game were in their full boxes behind the counter. Customers were generally OK with that, because it's not like the carts were being heavily pounded on before they were sold, and 95 times out of 100 if you were buying a game it was the brand new copy anyway, at least if you were buying a game for a current system.
If we wanted to try a game we had to use the copy that was already opened, and we had to be on the ball about not saving anything to the carts, not that that was generally a problem (this was back in the days where you generally typed in a code to get back to a given point in the game.)
For PC games, we could take them home for demo and re-shrink them to our hearts' content, with two exceptions: 1) if the box had a security seal, or 2) if the disks came in a sealed envelope inside the box. Then it was hands off. Returned games were re-shrinked and sold as new, unless they had one of the aforementioned security seals (or the materials had visible wear or something was missing), then it was returned to the manufacturer. Babbage's had such a liberal return policy at the time this was pretty much the only real way they wouldn't completely lose their shirt on returns - you could buy a $50 game, wait a few months, bring it back with the receipt, and get the $50 back, even though by then it was $15 or $10 and we were putting it back on the shelf at that price.
Yes, I know that Ion Storm blew it with the next two in the series, so while it's possible, few developers do it any more.
Deus Ex: Human Revolution doesn't come out until the end of the month. Do you know something we don't? I've been hearing nothing but good things about it, especially from the PC gaming press.
To be fair a LOT of that was hardware cartridge costs because the game was so big. A good double digit percentage of classic game costs was the cart itself.
Wing Commander came out a whopping three weeks before The Matrix, and yes, virtually no one saw it, because it sucked. And I would bet that a majority of the paid admissions were there for the Star Wars Episode 1 trailer and nothing else.
Lost In Space, released a full _year_ earlier, had a similar frozen object effect, but neither it nor Wing Commander took it to the level that The Matrix did - unlike the Matrix, which integrated the effect multiple times into a world that was built on physics that made the imagery possible, both the aforementioned movies used it once, briefly, as little more than a throwaway - and if I recall, it was a simple pan, not a full or partial orbit.
Regardless, ask anyone what effect they remember from Lost In Space (assuming they saw it) and they're going to talk to you about the horrible monkey character. People remember the effects that leave an impression on them, good or bad.
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I saw this movie. I move in, everything's cool, but then there's this little boy meowing at me and a creepy girl spider-walking down the stairs. Thanks but no thanks!
The 2016 version of Vizio's P series came with a VERY basic IR remote and the rest of the setup and features were controlled through an app (on either the included Android tablet or installable on an iPhone.) Which basically mandated that the TV was on the wireless network all of the time.
They ditched this for the 2017 models for ease of use, but how long before another manufacturer tries this again and manages to make it stick?
No you don't. When you prepay inside they're only authorizing the card for that amount. The card doesn't get charged until you finish pumping. So if you prepay $50 and only pump $40, you're fine. The extra $10 might get "held" for a bit on the card, but you'll never see it on the statement, it's just credit limit you can't use until it falls off. Checking into a hotel works exactly the same way, and no one has a problem doing that...
Yup. Happens to us on Windows 7, 32 and 64 bit. Different hardware, different generations of machine images, etc. It's still a problem in 60 (the Canary track) so no, they haven't fixed it yet.
From the summary Tron:Legacy grossed $400 million from $170 million - that's a success even by Hollywood "hide the profits to avoid royalty payments" maths.
Eh, it's closer than that. Studios see 50-55% of the domestic box office and anywhere between 15-50% of the foreign box office (depending on how much of a cut the distributor in a particular country takes.)
Tron 2 did $172 mil domestically (so figure the studio got $86-$95 mil) and $228 mil internationally (so that take isn't going to be any higher than $114 mil MAX, and probably a lot lower.) So that's $209 million at the very top end, against a production budget of $170 mil. If that $170 mil includes marketing costs (everyone reports that differently) then you're looking at anything from a mild profit to a mild loss overall. If you figure an additional $10-20 million was spent on marketing, we're a lot closer to "losing money no matter what" territory. Yes DVD sales will help them profit in the long run, but a success or failure is generally measured at the box office.
I can see them doing this - there's no indication that Tron 3 would make _more_ money than Tron 2 did at the box office, and it could very well make less. They've weathered the nuclear bombs of John Carter, The Lone Ranger, and now Tomorrowland all in the past couple of years - it makes sense that they're going to stick with franchises where they can print money.
As the article points out, the only reason this was able to work was because one of the upstreams didn't filter announcements correctly. So instead of one provider doing something simple, the "fix" is for the rest of the world to do something complex?
Back in the day if a provider dicked around with BGP enough (either through incompetence or malice) they would find that eventually no one would accept any prefixes originating from their network. Kind of hard to have customers when the rest of the internet won't accept your traffic, isn't it?
BGP4 was new and exciting in 1994, and people are still doing it incorrectly. Film at 11.
My personal favorite - and one I was dinged on several times before I learned to basically just lie my ass off about it - was how many servers I've been responsible for at one time. At some ISP jobs I've had, I've had to touch hundreds of unique servers while helping clients, but only had maybe 20-30 to worry about day to day. But companies hiring based on this metric want to hear that you were administering 200+, 500+, whatever number of servers on a daily basis. This is bullshit for two main reasons:
1. No single person is personally touching dozens or hundreds of servers on a daily or even weekly basis. A _team_ of people might, but a person isn't.
2. Once you get into a mid double digit number of servers (or sometimes even sooner) you're using automation stuff like Chef or CFEngine or BladeLogic or whatever. At that point 50, 100, 500, 5000 servers become rapidly irrelevant, because you're thinking in terms of a single task affecting an arbitrary number of servers, not a one-to-one situation. You're not logging into each individual server and firing off Windows Update every Patch Tuesday. In fact if you're wasting your time doing crap like that I would argue you're not a very good system administrator, because you're not learning and growing, you're simply caring and feeding.
NAT is NOT a firewall. Meaning that you haven't hid anything and you are not secure. Also NAT is a huge reason why IPSec doesn't work. It breaks the internet.
Oh look, it's one of those purist types.
If an arbitrary host can't reach through my router and connect to an arbitrary device in my home network, guess what? That's effectively a firewall. Yes it's not a _packet filtering_ firewall, but who cares? The end effect is the same. NAT takes multiple devices that only need to connect to other internet hosts (not be connected to themselves) and lets it work.
In a NAT situation, the return packets from the host my PC is surfing to are translated so it all functions. If that same PC were on a public IP, a stateful firewall would open the return ports so the packets could get back to the PC from the web server. Care to tell me what's insecure about one vs. secure about the other? Unless there's actual inspection going on, those return packets could have the same bad data in them regardless. I'm not "more secure" simply because a slightly smarter device managed to let me make the same de facto connection to a web server that a basic NAT device would. I'm only _truly_ secure if my intermediate device, be it a NAT router or a stateful firewall, can actually inspect the return traffic and stop it from reaching my PC if it's bogus or bad.
And IPSec didn't take off because it was WAY too complex, and stupid parts of it like AH mode and transport mode should have never made it in. There are multiple overlapping ways to do the same thing and there didn't need to be.
For SNI, you can enable it, but you can't rely on it since IE on XP will show SSL errors. However, there are many, many other devices out there aside from IE on XP that don't support SNI.
Most of which are pretty deprecated at this point. Android Honeycomb came out in late 2011, Windows Mobile 6.5 in late 2009, iPhone 4 in mid 2010. All of those (and anything later) are SNI capable. It's pretty much been the "IE on XP" crowd that's holding back adoption, everyone else would be in the 1% "other" category of most web sites.
Wow, Doogie, you were quite the student. What high school did you go to? I'd like to send my kids there.
What if they decide to charge you some insane sum of money for something you did not agree to?
Then I flag it as a fraudulent transaction and let my credit card company handle it? There is nothing a company like Netflix can do to me (and actually manage to pull off) that would be worth my time and money dragging them into court for. This is pretty much true of any company that one has month-to-month dealings with at dollars or tens of dollars per month. Once again, we're not talking about a situation where I sign a contract and the company I'm dealing with can move the goal posts after the fact and tell me to suck it - that's a situation where lawsuits are pretty much the only option.
Yeah, I don't get this at all. If Netflix starts pulling shenanigans I cancel my account and I'm out the $20 for the month, that's it. Why would I even think about bothering to sue them? This isn't like a cell phone situation where you're locked into a contract for two years and if they don't provide the service you think they promised you can't just cancel, so you have to sue them for redress.
Pre-iTunes: CDs for $20-$30 for a dozen songs. That you would still need to rip
Where the hell did you buy your CDs? Most of the music on iTunes is the kind that tends to be sold at discounts at places like Wal Mart or Best Buy, so it's more like $12-15 for a CD. Even when somewhere like Barnes & Noble sells it at full price it's $18 or so.
I also get years of use out of a car vs. 20 hours for a video game. In fact dollar for dollar a car is probably a better value.
Yeah, I misquoted. Sorry about that. And I was telling Barbie that the mistake IS considering secret and obscure to be the same, but they're not.
Do you have a problem reading and understanding the English language? While I appreciate your attempts to credit the definition as my own, it has been an accepted term in security circles for a long time, and I am not the one who came up with it. Nobody worth their salt ever said that 100% security can be achieved, and you are not saying anything that isn't obvious to even a security neophyte like yourself. What is known is that security through obscurity is not an effective method of achieving security, even in deference to the fact that nobody will ever achieve 100% security.
It's a very accepted term, but you're not using the accepted definition. You're equating "obscure" with "secret". If I look at a security algorithm and by doing so enables me to break into whatever it's protecting, that's security through obscurity. If I look at one but still something like keys or passwords, that is NOT security through obscurity. Yes the keys or passwords are "obscure" but they _have_ to be, and that's not what people mean when they use that word.
Ever worked a trade show in a place like Chicago or Las Vegas? No? You have absolutely no idea what the hell you're talking about.
Part of the reason CES left Chicago is the smaller vendors wouldn't/couldn't afford to pay a union electrician the exorbitant minimum fee to do something as simple as plug a device into a power outlet. I kid you not - if you were (for example) a boutique loudspeaker vendor with one product and all you had to do was plug in the power amp/preamp/CD player running the speakers you're demoing and you did it yourself, you better have someone sleeping in your booth or room overnight because the next morning there was a chance something would be damaged, and all anyone could do is shrug. The damage would never happen to the vendors that paid hundreds or thousands of dollars for what amounted to an hour or less of actual electrical work.
Was able to get into the Winter CES in Chicago back in the early 90s just because I was a register drone at Babbage's (computer software and video game store for you youngn's.) I think they had me down as "buyer" even though I had nothing to do with what the company stocked. Hell a buddy of mine who built PCs in his basement got in with a "technician" badge. As long as you didn't show up with children in tow and could ask reasonably coherent questions they were mostly happy to deal with people that were a half step above "Joe Q. Public."
I didn't mean to suggest anything specific to Apple or Android devices. The point I was trying to make was control of information - in regulated environments we're not going to allow something to connect to the corporate network that is then going to get taken home and synced with a personal computer, I don't care how secure the device itself can be made to be - the instant it touches anything that doesn't have a corporate identity it can no longer be vouched for.
This is like the fifth article this year talking about how users bringing their own devices into a corporate network are inevitable, yadda yadda, and here are some flashy new programs and services to keep it all under control that we happen to have developed and want to sell to you!
Well you know what wins, pundits? PCI and/or HIPPA.
We're PCI compliant at my job, and we're damn sure going to stay that way. That means that yes, you can bring in your iWhatever, and oh look, an open guest wireless network! But you know where that guest network goes? The internet. That's it. You can check your corporate E-mail through the public web interface if you'd like. Don't ask us to help you connect it to the corporate network, because we're going to tell you to go pound sand. And you know what? We're perfectly OK with you being pissed off at us because _you're not the one who's ass is in a sling if credit card information leaks out._ We provide you with all the tools you need to get your job done. You get a nice shiny corporate laptop that you can take anywhere with you (because it will help you VPN in and run your virtual desktop back at the office) and you get a rather impressive smartphone so your E-mail and contacts are never out of reach. You can't sit here and tell me you need MORE than that to do your job effectively.
Something tells me the "dropping two atomic bombs" part of that statement was the key there. When you (Japan) pick a fight with the neighborhood kid (America) who ends up being crazier than you thought - breaking into your house and killing your pets as revenge for kicking him in the nuts - you either make friends with him or you cease to exist. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, and all that.
Plus, Japan's economic policies in the 1980s was seen by citizens old enough to _remember_ WWII (and their kids) as just a furtherance of Japan's 1940s goals by other more peaceful means - if you can't own 'em militarily, own 'em economically. "If you don't want Japan to buy it, don't sell it" might be from fiction, but it wasn't far from the truth at the time.
Even when it was Babbage's we opened the display copy of a given console game, and when we'd sell that copy (which was rare unless we were trying to sell through a discontinued item) we'd seal it in shrink wrap and tell the customer, but still treat it as new. (Babbage's didn't deal in used games until after I left in '94 or so, so we really didn't have a provision for discounting like that). The other copies of the game were in their full boxes behind the counter. Customers were generally OK with that, because it's not like the carts were being heavily pounded on before they were sold, and 95 times out of 100 if you were buying a game it was the brand new copy anyway, at least if you were buying a game for a current system.
If we wanted to try a game we had to use the copy that was already opened, and we had to be on the ball about not saving anything to the carts, not that that was generally a problem (this was back in the days where you generally typed in a code to get back to a given point in the game.)
For PC games, we could take them home for demo and re-shrink them to our hearts' content, with two exceptions: 1) if the box had a security seal, or 2) if the disks came in a sealed envelope inside the box. Then it was hands off. Returned games were re-shrinked and sold as new, unless they had one of the aforementioned security seals (or the materials had visible wear or something was missing), then it was returned to the manufacturer. Babbage's had such a liberal return policy at the time this was pretty much the only real way they wouldn't completely lose their shirt on returns - you could buy a $50 game, wait a few months, bring it back with the receipt, and get the $50 back, even though by then it was $15 or $10 and we were putting it back on the shelf at that price.
Yes, I know that Ion Storm blew it with the next two in the series, so while it's possible, few developers do it any more.
Deus Ex: Human Revolution doesn't come out until the end of the month. Do you know something we don't? I've been hearing nothing but good things about it, especially from the PC gaming press.
To be fair a LOT of that was hardware cartridge costs because the game was so big. A good double digit percentage of classic game costs was the cart itself.
Wing Commander came out a whopping three weeks before The Matrix, and yes, virtually no one saw it, because it sucked. And I would bet that a majority of the paid admissions were there for the Star Wars Episode 1 trailer and nothing else.
Lost In Space, released a full _year_ earlier, had a similar frozen object effect, but neither it nor Wing Commander took it to the level that The Matrix did - unlike the Matrix, which integrated the effect multiple times into a world that was built on physics that made the imagery possible, both the aforementioned movies used it once, briefly, as little more than a throwaway - and if I recall, it was a simple pan, not a full or partial orbit.
Regardless, ask anyone what effect they remember from Lost In Space (assuming they saw it) and they're going to talk to you about the horrible monkey character. People remember the effects that leave an impression on them, good or bad.