Statements like this don't validate anything. Statements like this only reveal how far away this particular plan from AOL is from the reality of what people will pay money for.
I download music from Kazaa all the time. I'm completely willing to pay for music I download but I'm not going to pay this much money for something as stupid as this. The only kind of plan that the RIAA is willing to consider is one that keeps them exactly as relevent as they were in the days of vinyl records and that's just not going to float anymore whether they realise it or not.
The reason they aren't getting any response is because their product doesn't have the kind of value to their customers that they think it does. Free is closer to our price point than this os free is going to be the choice for a lot of people. I know that the inevitable response is that people will always choose free over any actual price but I don't agree with that and think it's too simplistic an approach.
The price of songs might end up being as little as.50 and that might not sit well with the RIAA but invariably if that's what people are willing to pay for them then that's where they are headed. It's only a matter of time.
Actually a Microsoft monopoly on spam would not be a bad thing. For starters there's something to be said for keeping the number (if not the size) of your enemies limited. Let Microsoft have their loopholes and let them go after the spam market with the intensity they've handled other "competitors" in previous areas.
If you were a spammer and you knew you were going to be in the proverbial sights of either the government or Microsoft which one do you think you would stand a better chance with? Microsoft would eat you alive and could do so in ways the government couldn't even approach (though it apparently isn't above looking the other way when they do it)
If they controlled as high a percentage of spam market as they do PC operating systems then it would be simple enough once they got their monopoly in place to crush 90+% of the spam by taking out one player. Actually getting them once they have it would be tough I admit but at least you would know exactly where to look.
No kidding, I'd be more interested in an article about someone (anyone) who couldn't do it. At least then we'd get to read about the ass kicking he got when he was caught.
Damn that was perfect. Excellent reply. Myself I download mountains of mp3's and if I were asked to produce one legal copy of the songs I'm amassing I would be SOL.
On the other hand though I'm 37 years old and I've bought music since I was probably around ten years old. I bought and paid for albums, 8-tracks, cassettes, and then CD's. Of all them I probably have fewer than a hundred and those are all CD's. Now the way I see it I paid for the right to download my ass off.
Take for instance "Hotel California". I paid for it three times. I bought the LP and wore it out. I bought two cassettes before CD's came along and those lasted less time combined than the original vinyl copy I bought. So when CD's came out I wasn't real thrilled with the idea of buying yet another copy of this record. Add to that the fact that the price of the CD was (almost) more than I'd paid for the previous three copies. I just decided that I wasn't going to buy it again and that's where it sat until file sharing matured quite nicely. I went and downloaded myself a "replacement copy" from which I can now make as many CD's as I can scratch, lose, or microwave if I'm bored. I got FILES now.
I limit myself to two kinds of stealing from the record companies. I replace things I've paid for in the past and want to listen to again OR I download things that I am curious about before springing for a CD. To me there's not a thing wrong with this. I couldn't give a rats ass if the RIAA thinks it's wrong.
My experience in my first year of Apple ownership is that if the games any good it makes it to the Mac eventually. Maybe it's because I'm older (37) now and don't care about getting the game the day it comes out. Maybe it's because I'm playing fewer games altogether than I did ten years ago. Maybe it's the stack of crap Windows games I have sitting next to the much smaller stack of Windows games I actually still play and enjoy.
Whatever the reason I'm thinking that for every "good" game that hits the PC first and then the Mac sometime later there are a hundred lousy games I don't have to sort through to find the better ones. Lousy games that are packaged well with great art on the box and a bought and paid for kick butt review in some magazine but nevertheless still lousy games.
I don't miss them. The Windows crowd can do my beta testing for me. I'll buy the ones that pass muster and actually work.
How do you know? Isn't it possible (and even likely) that there are devices onboard every starship in the fleet that are called "reflectors"?
And even if they're located in the lavatory on deck 22 behind the jeffries tube and in the third stall from the back (the one with the door that won't stay locked and always seems to slip open right when you're "crowning") you damned good and well that someone, somewhere can get some tachyon streams flying out of them.
Star Trek writers don't need to make sense or be consistent. Just like Slashdot posters.
Yep. What? I'm going to pay that much money for an OS I don't even want to use and only have to in order to run one stinkin program I like? I don't think so.
I'll agree with that. I was "THIS" close to adding something like that to the end of my post and regretted not doing it as soon as I hit the submit button.
It would probably be more accurate to say that if you're trying to use it like you would VPC and VMware then you have a high likelyhood of feeling that this product is shit.
Well, honestly if you're needing to run a Windows program badly enough to go and buy VPC and it's associated Windows license then you are, to some extent, already locked in. It's just not as apparent as it could be that you're locked in. It doesn't mean you're not part of "Le Resistance" either though.
The hardware is a small thing really.
Myself I advocate buying VPC in it's cheapest PC-DOS version and then "acquiring" a copy of Windows if you need one. Send as little scratch as possible to Redmond if you can.
Better than that would be to find a way to get completely free of any Windows related needs. Not always realistic but it makes more of a difference. Look at it this way. If you aren't giving Microsoft money for their OS or their software but you are still running it and buying games and other Windows related things then you're still keeping them rolling along. You're contributing to the process.
It's been my experience that Bochs is just plain shit. Sorry, I know some people out there find it useful and like it but it's flat out useless compared to VPC and VMware.
No, we don't all really buy a copy of Windows. Some of us just buy the cheap ass version with PC-DOS and then install our borrowed copy of Windows. I know that's how I go about it.
First it was compiled, then the entire sorry mess was trucked up to Mt. Doom for a quick forging.
Then of course before they even made it halfway back to Barad-Dur an orc ran up with a fistful of bug reports and they had to turn around, walk all the way back to mountain, and forge it again. Then up runs another orc with more complaints...
Eventually they settled on regular trips back to Mt. Doom to keep the thing together. They call them Service Packs.
Well, if you think it's nice to get home and use something that just works and you're a Solaris sysadmin think how I must feel. I spend all day wiping up after a network composed of nothing but Windows 2000 servers (and their 400+ Windows 2000 Pro workstations).
Not as bad as it was when they made us go to NT4 from NetWare but still it makes me appreciate coming home to the PowerMac. It's like a friggin rock it's so stable and simple. To me at least (and we're all different so to each his own) this is like the promised land.
Just curious if you get back to this post of yours and happen to see this reply I'd like to know how fast your Mac is. I'm always reading things where people complain about the speed of OSX but I've never really noticed it being anything other than "pretty darned quick". I've got a one of the dual 1gig Quicksilvers and this was really my first full time Mac. I did run it for a little while on an upgraded beige G3 that was running at 500Mhz and it seemed pretty decent there too. Like I said, just curious.
Damn straight man, If it ain't a Plex it ain't shit. I've been buying Plex drives and burners for years and my oldest one is still chugging along reliably. It's a 4Plex and frankly I think the thing is still plenty quick enough.
Plextor goes out of the business that's news. Yamaha getting out of this area is closer to "so what".
It's easy enough to have controls in place without damaging the morale of the employees overall and without going overboard. Here it's pretty much open season on internet use with the sole exception of keeping people off of the porn. Still about three or four times a year we have to pull someone aside and tell them to leave that stuff for when they are surfing at home.
Less often we have to actually speak with someones supervisor when those "just between us" warnings go unheaded. Probably no more than once a year.
I admit I don't know this to be a fact. Really I'm just guessing but in order for your first two sentences to make sense (in this case) I think you need to define the term "a lot of money". To me and you Microsoft makes a fortune off of their MSN portal. To Microsoft I think the amount of money they make off of this is nearly negligable.
Just like the impact and potential consequences of screwing up the view for people who refuse to get with the program are negligable in their way of thinking. Looks like the same Microsoft to me.
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Quality programming? Like "Sopranoes"? That show is shit.
Statements like this don't validate anything. Statements like this only reveal how far away this particular plan from AOL is from the reality of what people will pay money for.
.50 and that might not sit well with the RIAA but invariably if that's what people are willing to pay for them then that's where they are headed. It's only a matter of time.
I download music from Kazaa all the time. I'm completely willing to pay for music I download but I'm not going to pay this much money for something as stupid as this. The only kind of plan that the RIAA is willing to consider is one that keeps them exactly as relevent as they were in the days of vinyl records and that's just not going to float anymore whether they realise it or not.
The reason they aren't getting any response is because their product doesn't have the kind of value to their customers that they think it does. Free is closer to our price point than this os free is going to be the choice for a lot of people. I know that the inevitable response is that people will always choose free over any actual price but I don't agree with that and think it's too simplistic an approach.
The price of songs might end up being as little as
Actually a Microsoft monopoly on spam would not be a bad thing. For starters there's something to be said for keeping the number (if not the size) of your enemies limited. Let Microsoft have their loopholes and let them go after the spam market with the intensity they've handled other "competitors" in previous areas.
If you were a spammer and you knew you were going to be in the proverbial sights of either the government or Microsoft which one do you think you would stand a better chance with? Microsoft would eat you alive and could do so in ways the government couldn't even approach (though it apparently isn't above looking the other way when they do it)
If they controlled as high a percentage of spam market as they do PC operating systems then it would be simple enough once they got their monopoly in place to crush 90+% of the spam by taking out one player. Actually getting them once they have it would be tough I admit but at least you would know exactly where to look.
Amazing that you would choose to relate this story to me, a former MP. 4-5 seconds? Impressive. Guy obviously takes pride in his work.
No kidding, I'd be more interested in an article about someone (anyone) who couldn't do it. At least then we'd get to read about the ass kicking he got when he was caught.
Damn that was perfect. Excellent reply. Myself I download mountains of mp3's and if I were asked to produce one legal copy of the songs I'm amassing I would be SOL.
On the other hand though I'm 37 years old and I've bought music since I was probably around ten years old. I bought and paid for albums, 8-tracks, cassettes, and then CD's. Of all them I probably have fewer than a hundred and those are all CD's. Now the way I see it I paid for the right to download my ass off.
Take for instance "Hotel California". I paid for it three times. I bought the LP and wore it out. I bought two cassettes before CD's came along and those lasted less time combined than the original vinyl copy I bought. So when CD's came out I wasn't real thrilled with the idea of buying yet another copy of this record. Add to that the fact that the price of the CD was (almost) more than I'd paid for the previous three copies. I just decided that I wasn't going to buy it again and that's where it sat until file sharing matured quite nicely. I went and downloaded myself a "replacement copy" from which I can now make as many CD's as I can scratch, lose, or microwave if I'm bored. I got FILES now.
I limit myself to two kinds of stealing from the record companies. I replace things I've paid for in the past and want to listen to again OR I download things that I am curious about before springing for a CD. To me there's not a thing wrong with this. I couldn't give a rats ass if the RIAA thinks it's wrong.
My experience in my first year of Apple ownership is that if the games any good it makes it to the Mac eventually. Maybe it's because I'm older (37) now and don't care about getting the game the day it comes out. Maybe it's because I'm playing fewer games altogether than I did ten years ago. Maybe it's the stack of crap Windows games I have sitting next to the much smaller stack of Windows games I actually still play and enjoy.
Whatever the reason I'm thinking that for every "good" game that hits the PC first and then the Mac sometime later there are a hundred lousy games I don't have to sort through to find the better ones. Lousy games that are packaged well with great art on the box and a bought and paid for kick butt review in some magazine but nevertheless still lousy games.
I don't miss them. The Windows crowd can do my beta testing for me. I'll buy the ones that pass muster and actually work.
How do you know? Isn't it possible (and even likely) that there are devices onboard every starship in the fleet that are called "reflectors"?
And even if they're located in the lavatory on deck 22 behind the jeffries tube and in the third stall from the back (the one with the door that won't stay locked and always seems to slip open right when you're "crowning") you damned good and well that someone, somewhere can get some tachyon streams flying out of them.
Star Trek writers don't need to make sense or be consistent. Just like Slashdot posters.
NOW your talkin!
Yep. What? I'm going to pay that much money for an OS I don't even want to use and only have to in order to run one stinkin program I like? I don't think so.
I'll agree with that. I was "THIS" close to adding something like that to the end of my post and regretted not doing it as soon as I hit the submit button.
It would probably be more accurate to say that if you're trying to use it like you would VPC and VMware then you have a high likelyhood of feeling that this product is shit.
Well, honestly if you're needing to run a Windows program badly enough to go and buy VPC and it's associated Windows license then you are, to some extent, already locked in. It's just not as apparent as it could be that you're locked in. It doesn't mean you're not part of "Le Resistance" either though.
The hardware is a small thing really.
Myself I advocate buying VPC in it's cheapest PC-DOS version and then "acquiring" a copy of Windows if you need one. Send as little scratch as possible to Redmond if you can.
Better than that would be to find a way to get completely free of any Windows related needs. Not always realistic but it makes more of a difference. Look at it this way. If you aren't giving Microsoft money for their OS or their software but you are still running it and buying games and other Windows related things then you're still keeping them rolling along. You're contributing to the process.
It's been my experience that Bochs is just plain shit. Sorry, I know some people out there find it useful and like it but it's flat out useless compared to VPC and VMware.
No, we don't all really buy a copy of Windows. Some of us just buy the cheap ass version with PC-DOS and then install our borrowed copy of Windows. I know that's how I go about it.
Will the cheap ass version vanish I wonder?
Oh no, we get it. Not like Wanke "gets it" but we do get it.
First it was compiled, then the entire sorry mess was trucked up to Mt. Doom for a quick forging.
Then of course before they even made it halfway back to Barad-Dur an orc ran up with a fistful of bug reports and they had to turn around, walk all the way back to mountain, and forge it again. Then up runs another orc with more complaints...
Eventually they settled on regular trips back to Mt. Doom to keep the thing together. They call them Service Packs.
4) profit!
Well, if you think it's nice to get home and use something that just works and you're a Solaris sysadmin think how I must feel. I spend all day wiping up after a network composed of nothing but Windows 2000 servers (and their 400+ Windows 2000 Pro workstations).
Not as bad as it was when they made us go to NT4 from NetWare but still it makes me appreciate coming home to the PowerMac. It's like a friggin rock it's so stable and simple. To me at least (and we're all different so to each his own) this is like the promised land.
Just curious if you get back to this post of yours and happen to see this reply I'd like to know how fast your Mac is. I'm always reading things where people complain about the speed of OSX but I've never really noticed it being anything other than "pretty darned quick". I've got a one of the dual 1gig Quicksilvers and this was really my first full time Mac. I did run it for a little while on an upgraded beige G3 that was running at 500Mhz and it seemed pretty decent there too. Like I said, just curious.
Damn straight man, If it ain't a Plex it ain't shit. I've been buying Plex drives and burners for years and my oldest one is still chugging along reliably. It's a 4Plex and frankly I think the thing is still plenty quick enough.
Plextor goes out of the business that's news. Yamaha getting out of this area is closer to "so what".
You sir, have said it best. I can add nothing more. Perfect post.
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It's easy enough to have controls in place without damaging the morale of the employees overall and without going overboard. Here it's pretty much open season on internet use with the sole exception of keeping people off of the porn. Still about three or four times a year we have to pull someone aside and tell them to leave that stuff for when they are surfing at home.
Less often we have to actually speak with someones supervisor when those "just between us" warnings go unheaded. Probably no more than once a year.
I admit I don't know this to be a fact. Really I'm just guessing but in order for your first two sentences to make sense (in this case) I think you need to define the term "a lot of money". To me and you Microsoft makes a fortune off of their MSN portal. To Microsoft I think the amount of money they make off of this is nearly negligable.
Just like the impact and potential consequences of screwing up the view for people who refuse to get with the program are negligable in their way of thinking. Looks like the same Microsoft to me.
The Coppertop Matrix has you..
With apologies to Apple Computer for borrowing their style. This is the entire "thing" in a nutshell.
Neat page. Of course by default anything that has a railgun on it or even mentions one is pretty darned neat. Just comes with the territory.