And the parent poster forgets that caching of popular content means you don't have to hop on the backbone all of the time. The network will selforganize bottom-up.
If you saw the parent posters logic, why did you have to resort to bad logic to counter?
The parent poster was asking why if it's a "human" should a mother be allowed to get away with "murdering" her zygote in a miscarriage as result of "gross negligence?" You tried to reduce his argument by countering with the absurd analogy that an infant killed by a dog shouldn't be human either.
And for the record, IMO, human life begins with conscience, which only requires a developed brain/computer. Even most retards qualify, but we don't kill 'em because other humans empathize... same as we selfishly don't kill vegetable relatives.
I've noticed that a lot of the religious people I know aren't really religious - they just want to belong to a group so they subscribe to the group think. It's a social thing that evolved over time because there's safety in conformity; the new and different is to be feared because it could quite rightly be dangerous.
I prefer independant thought... and "suffer" for it.:)
IMO, if there's anything resembling "God", it's nature and the possibility of "higher" simulated universes (Singularity reference).
As an [authoritarian] artist, I can appreciate why [control] is such a big issue [even though I get paid for each copy].
You already got paid! That's your incentive to produce more in the copyright [im]balance between creator and viewer (I won't say 'consumer'). If the viewer decides to alter HIS COPY, or have a business alter it for him, that's HIS RIGHT.
The business is rendering a fair-use service after first sale. You're free to bitch about it though (and you are).
I've read a few of your other comments in this thread and just shook my head (horizontally) every time.
If I want your pure artistic vision -- which I almost always do (JarJar excepted) -- I'll make it a point to buy the Directors Cut edition, or the uncensored CD, or search for uncensored/banned versions of content on P2P networks, etc.
Once you've sold a copy of your "vision" to an individual OR EVEN a business, the only right you have is to put your money (incentive) in the bank and churn out new works; you made a first sale for each clearly edited resale. I would say you also have a personal, but not legal right, to bitch about the fair use "mutilation" of a work you somehow feel is naturally "your baby".
Just curious, but would you feel any different if it was a non-profit organization? How about if instead the editing was done locally in realtime using free scripts?
I understand how you feel, but I think you need to let go. You're leaning a bit too far to the authoritarian side...
However, they do care about buying the same PC for $100 less.
$100 is a small price to pay for a Disney-compliant computer running a genuine made-in-america copy of Microsoft Windows XTE (Xterminate-Terrorism Edition). And remember: It's the law!...wait, what year is it?;)
But I can't shake the notion that there's a *much* more vast equation and we don't have a clue about that, just as the elephant doesn't have a clue about how his behaviour fits into a bigger picture.
We do have a tiny clue, but you're right that it's not enough to see the big picture from our current perspective. You can't teach an elephant to engineer a space shuttle any more than a human can be taught to understand "42".
It's just that porn advertising pays more because people convert to sales more often. A couple thousand uniques per day * a crappy clickthrough ratio (3%) * a "crappy" conversion ratio (1:500) @ the actual paysite * your_payout = decent change. More than enough to pay for bandwidth.
All those numbers are smaller in the non-adult world... People aren't lining up to buy webcams... (unless you count X10 using sex and sleaze to sell it).
Flame you? For what? For pointing out that nanotech has been written about for decades in fiction and nonfiction, and that you assumed I was either ignorant of it or was pretending to be original because I failed to cite sources?
Congratulations on reading Diamond Age oh learned one (
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There are no anti-piracy measures to prevent physical objects from being "pirated".
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One day in the not too distant future everyone will have a "magic box" in their kitchen with utility pipes feeding in recycled raw molecular feedstock + energy to cheaply reproduce any object you want (as long as it passes your safety filters, defined by some democratically approved intelligent heuristic vs using totalitarian whitelists or blacklists - so no nukes for you (and if you try hacking your own box - it's too late - as everything is infested with a protective network which serves as an active shield against harm (e.g. uranium concentration detection & immunity against bio/chem agents getting in your body))).
You'll only need to grow that opensource apple once, then scan it molecule-by-molecule, so everyone benefits from the blueprint... and nobody starves because of this "IP theft" (that was a joke... I think)
Whick reminds me (every time) of a great short story...
"Artists have been deluding themselves for centuries with the notion that they create. In fact they do nothing of the sort. They discover. Inherent in the nature of reality are a number of combinations of musical tones that will be perceived as pleasing by a human central nervous system. For millennia we have been discovering them, implicit in the universe--and telling ourselves that we `created' them. To create implies infinite possibility, to discover implies finite possibility. As a species I think we will react poorly to having our noses rubbed in the fact that we are discoverers and not creators."
She stopped speaking and sat very straight. Unaccountably her feet hurt. She closed her eyes, and continued speaking.
"My husband wrote a song for me, on the occasion of our fortieth wedding anniversary. It was our love in music, unique and special and intimate, the most beautiful melody I ever heard in my live. It made him so happy to have written it. Of his last ten compositions he had burned five for being derivative, and the others had all failed copyright clearance. But this was fresh, special--he joked that my love for him had inspired him. The next day he submitted it for clearance, and learned that it had been a popular air during his early childhood, and had already been unsuccessfully submitted fourteen times since its original registration. A week later he burned all his manuscripts and working tapes and killed himself."
Of course, the fact that it's extremely difficult (if not impossible) to make it fully automatic for the users has nothing to do with it.
Yep. People (even me) will continue sending their email in the clear - just like a postcard - until the encryption process requires as little thought as putting a physical letter inside an envelope and licking it shut.
Oh... but the TERRORISTS! The TERRORISTS could use envelopes too! We should go back to postcards if we "have nothing to hide"...
I used to work in the pr0n biz (I helped pioneer the then "state-of-the-art" multipart/mixed JPEG push "live streaming video", among other things I'm not particularly proud of), and I can tell you that those disgusting descriptions simply sell better. It's what most guys want to hear, and that fact is reflected in clickthrough ratios and in hardcore over softcore video sales, hypocrites notwithstanding.
Click here to fantasize about making sweet love to this classy redheaded independant woman!
CLICK HERE NOW to fill this horny slut with your hot manjuice!!! She wants it all!
I could have picked a better example, but yeah, in this case you may be right...
Say the average age of the dead on 9-11 is 30, who have lived to be... 90 on average, and the average age of flu dead is 70, who would live to be... 75 without the flu.
9-11 years lost is (60 * 3000) = 180,000
flu years lost is (5 * 20,000) = 100,000
No, the value is the photographic service you provide at the wedding, plus the spiffy looking albums you put together shortly thereafter. Holding the copyright hostage longer than that just makes you look like a control freak hoping for some ransom money.
What value is there in keeping the negatives to yourself after the wedding's over and you've been paid already? I'd gather that almost all wedding photographers make the vast majority of their money for the job and almost nothing from exclusive (ick) reprints years down the road.
By giving High-Res pictures to your entire family without paying for each one of those photos distributed, you have cheated and honest, hard-working, photographer out of a living.
Cheated? Really?! You are being hired for the SERVICE of taking photos. You are not hired to keep someone's wedding negatives hostage so you can gouge per print indefinately. Charge accordingly for your services (with one of those services being the non-exclusive ability to make prints from the negatives made for your employer).
As an aside, and unrelated, I think that "analog" photography is a much "truer" art form.
Mmm. Yeah. "analog" is "truer". Allow me to lift my pretentious left eyebrow and raise my martini glass with pinky extended.
For murder, why is it that WTC caused so much panic, whereas traffic accidents, personal handguns, and AIDS cause nary a stir?
Because people don't respond to pain unless it's concentrated. Simple as that.
20,000 americans die from the flu each year, but the death is spread out over 365 days. The 3,000+ deaths and destruction on 9-11 was FOCUSED like a the point of a needle. It was a highly televised event for which millions could empathize. And because the pain was inflicted by a human vector (rather than disease/natural/accidental/etc), vengence enters the mind (vs. futility).
I can see how: primitive emotions rule in many people. We're not that far removed from the jungle.
Myself, I'd rather let 1000 fuckups live (poorly) than put 1 innocent man to death. In the same way, I'd rather see 3000 Americans DIE FREE than to become an ineffectual police state because of a few lucky factory rejects (that we help manufacture).
And the parent poster forgets that caching of popular content means you don't have to hop on the backbone all of the time. The network will selforganize bottom-up.
Akamai is just the tip of the iceberg.
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The parent poster was asking why if it's a "human" should a mother be allowed to get away with "murdering" her zygote in a miscarriage as result of "gross negligence?" You tried to reduce his argument by countering with the absurd analogy that an infant killed by a dog shouldn't be human either.
And for the record, IMO, human life begins with conscience, which only requires a developed brain/computer. Even most retards qualify, but we don't kill 'em because other humans empathize... same as we selfishly don't kill vegetable relatives.
I expect to be mod'd down - that's alright.
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I've noticed that a lot of the religious people I know aren't really religious - they just want to belong to a group so they subscribe to the group think. It's a social thing that evolved over time because there's safety in conformity; the new and different is to be feared because it could quite rightly be dangerous.
I prefer independant thought... and "suffer" for it. :)
IMO, if there's anything resembling "God", it's nature and the possibility of "higher" simulated universes (Singularity reference).
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You already got paid! That's your incentive to produce more in the copyright [im]balance between creator and viewer (I won't say 'consumer'). If the viewer decides to alter HIS COPY, or have a business alter it for him, that's HIS RIGHT.
The business is rendering a fair-use service after first sale. You're free to bitch about it though (and you are).
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If I want your pure artistic vision -- which I almost always do (JarJar excepted) -- I'll make it a point to buy the Directors Cut edition, or the uncensored CD, or search for uncensored/banned versions of content on P2P networks, etc.
Once you've sold a copy of your "vision" to an individual OR EVEN a business, the only right you have is to put your money (incentive) in the bank and churn out new works; you made a first sale for each clearly edited resale. I would say you also have a personal, but not legal right, to bitch about the fair use "mutilation" of a work you somehow feel is naturally "your baby".
Just curious, but would you feel any different if it was a non-profit organization? How about if instead the editing was done locally in realtime using free scripts?
I understand how you feel, but I think you need to let go. You're leaning a bit too far to the authoritarian side...
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faster. Faster. FASTER. FASTER!!!
The Singularity approaches...
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A "quad whore" is a special kind of camping beeyatch.
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$100 is a small price to pay for a Disney-compliant computer running a genuine made-in-america copy of Microsoft Windows XTE (Xterminate-Terrorism Edition). And remember: It's the law! ...wait, what year is it? ;)
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We do have a tiny clue, but you're right that it's not enough to see the big picture from our current perspective. You can't teach an elephant to engineer a space shuttle any more than a human can be taught to understand "42".
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All those numbers are smaller in the non-adult world... People aren't lining up to buy webcams... (unless you count X10 using sex and sleaze to sell it).
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Congratulations on reading Diamond Age oh learned one ( --
<fun futurist hat>
One day in the not too distant future everyone will have a "magic box" in their kitchen with utility pipes feeding in recycled raw molecular feedstock + energy to cheaply reproduce any object you want (as long as it passes your safety filters, defined by some democratically approved intelligent heuristic vs using totalitarian whitelists or blacklists - so no nukes for you (and if you try hacking your own box - it's too late - as everything is infested with a protective network which serves as an active shield against harm (e.g. uranium concentration detection & immunity against bio/chem agents getting in your body))).
You'll only need to grow that opensource apple once, then scan it molecule-by-molecule, so everyone benefits from the blueprint... and nobody starves because of this "IP theft" (that was a joke... I think)
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Would you like to read more? :)
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Yep. People (even me) will continue sending their email in the clear - just like a postcard - until the encryption process requires as little thought as putting a physical letter inside an envelope and licking it shut.
Oh... but the TERRORISTS! The TERRORISTS could use envelopes too! We should go back to postcards if we "have nothing to hide"...
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Sex != Love & Sex != Making Love.
Some people want classy; most people want nasty.
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Must be a glitch in the Matrix...
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Say the average age of the dead on 9-11 is 30, who have lived to be... 90 on average, and the average age of flu dead is 70, who would live to be... 75 without the flu.
9-11 years lost is (60 * 3000) = 180,000
flu years lost is (5 * 20,000) = 100,000
*shrug*
Unless it's the fineprint in a clickthrough EULA, riiiight?
Sorry, but it's not naive to assume that a wedding photographer isn't out to screw you.
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What value is there in keeping the negatives to yourself after the wedding's over and you've been paid already? I'd gather that almost all wedding photographers make the vast majority of their money for the job and almost nothing from exclusive (ick) reprints years down the road.
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Cheated? Really?! You are being hired for the SERVICE of taking photos. You are not hired to keep someone's wedding negatives hostage so you can gouge per print indefinately. Charge accordingly for your services (with one of those services being the non-exclusive ability to make prints from the negatives made for your employer).
As an aside, and unrelated, I think that "analog" photography is a much "truer" art form.
Mmm. Yeah. "analog" is "truer". Allow me to lift my pretentious left eyebrow and raise my martini glass with pinky extended.
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In many cases it works transparently (and when it doesn't, you can always buy a $20 I/O card seperately).
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Because people don't respond to pain unless it's concentrated. Simple as that.
20,000 americans die from the flu each year, but the death is spread out over 365 days. The 3,000+ deaths and destruction on 9-11 was FOCUSED like a the point of a needle. It was a highly televised event for which millions could empathize. And because the pain was inflicted by a human vector (rather than disease/natural/accidental/etc), vengence enters the mind (vs. futility).
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I can see how: primitive emotions rule in many people. We're not that far removed from the jungle.
Myself, I'd rather let 1000 fuckups live (poorly) than put 1 innocent man to death. In the same way, I'd rather see 3000 Americans DIE FREE than to become an ineffectual police state because of a few lucky factory rejects (that we help manufacture).
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