The WTC was not infrastructure. Infrastructure is things like roads, powerplants, manufacturing facilities etc. Things that are part of the countries ability to function.
Yes, the WTC was very important to the US, not only for economic reasons, but also for symbolic reasons. It was not infrastructure. Therefore hitting the WTC was an act of pure terrorism.
When you target infrastructure there WILL be some civilian casualties. This is a given, and is very unfortunate.
BTW, Most of the civilian deaths in Kosovo (and in the Balkan's in general) since the conflict began are the result of local-vs-local conflicts, not NATO actions.
I've been there (several times actually. I have the UNPROFOR, KFOR and SFOR medals on my rack) as an armoured trooper, not a wog (service support, ie trucker, cook, etc), and we (NATO) have done much more good than bad.
how can US justify killing "as few ordinary people as possible
Simply because war is a violent action. There will always be casualties in war. They are unavoidable. This is the way nation's conduct business when the options run out.
Wake up. I was a professional soldier for 20 years, and I can tell you without any reservations that the amount of collateral damage in Kosovo (and any other place where a MODERN, professional military goes to work) is lower now than it has been in the history of man.
Hell, I don't see Japan, England, France, China, or anyone else for that matter helping us now other than making a few strong statements to the media which will be forgotten in a month.
I'm Canadian and my old regiment is on 30 minutes notice to move. Just tell us where you want us and we will be there in a few hours.
As well, all of the member countries of NATO are right behind you folks, as a clause in NATO's charter has been invoked which basically says 'This incident is a threat to all of us. The alliance will stand behind the US and advocates the use of force.'
He has twisted the muslim religion so much any REAL muslim would be outraged. Bullshit. Have you ever been to an islamic country? I have (Iran, Iraq, Cypress, Bosnia) and I can tell you under no uncertain terms that these people are scum. According to that 'peace loving religion' it's perfectly alright to kill the non-believers. Just go crawl into a corner and die you gullible bastard.
You stupid cunt. They ARE in the same ranks as murderers and drug dealers. They committed a crime, and therefore should be punished. Perhaps it is not retribution for the damages, however it may make the little bastard think twice before he d/l's his next root kit. You can go ahead and employ the 'smart young computer nerd' all you want, but the little prick won't get a job with me.
You fail to remember (apparently) that Linux is NOT for Joe BlowIt's idiots like this Garcia asshole that are guilty of propagating the elitist attitudes that are rampant in this community.And for this drivel to be scored at 2 is even more idiotic......
I know that this has been said before, but when I see this kind of crap I have to respond. Most of the infected boxen are not run by companies etc. My logs show mostly home users who probably don't even know that they are running IIS.
I'm not an MCSE, and I don't use the M$ products, but I'm willing to bet that most NT/2000 admins have patched already. I'm sure this will get modded down, because some crack-smoking moderator has already modded the parent up.
Why don't some of the open source advocates start creating a Gnutella-like p2p data storage facility, perhaps with solid crypto, where the machine's owner actually doesn't know what specific data really resides on his machine? Seems like if enough folks opted in with a small chunk of their hard drive, we could prevent things like DeCSS, RIASS/Napster, Dolby AC3, etc. from happening in the first place.
Most of this has already been done. Ever heard of Freenet
http://freenet.sourceforge.net/ for the goatse.cx wary.
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Yes, the WTC was very important to the US, not only for economic reasons, but also for symbolic reasons. It was not infrastructure. Therefore hitting the WTC was an act of pure terrorism.
When you target infrastructure there WILL be some civilian casualties. This is a given, and is very unfortunate.
BTW, Most of the civilian deaths in Kosovo (and in the Balkan's in general) since the conflict began are the result of local-vs-local conflicts, not NATO actions.
I've been there (several times actually. I have the UNPROFOR, KFOR and SFOR medals on my rack) as an armoured trooper, not a wog (service support, ie trucker, cook, etc), and we (NATO) have done much more good than bad.
What roads? Cart tracks, yes (and those are in shit shape), but no roads at all in rural areas.
I thought not.
Ask the people of Carthage about that.
Simply because war is a violent action. There will always be casualties in war. They are unavoidable. This is the way nation's conduct business when the options run out.
Deal.
Take your shit elsewhere.
Idiot. Tempest was a standard designed to ensure that you could not sniff em signals. It involved shielded cases and cables.
It was on A-channel here in Edmonton last night
Hey man, do you work at the U of A? That sounds like the shit I do all the time....
Israel doesn't have nukes.
I'm Canadian and my old regiment is on 30 minutes notice to move. Just tell us where you want us and we will be there in a few hours.
As well, all of the member countries of NATO are right behind you folks, as a clause in NATO's charter has been invoked which basically says 'This incident is a threat to all of us. The alliance will stand behind the US and advocates the use of force.'
Yes, I heard it took weeks to come up with 'all your base are belong to us'........
He has twisted the muslim religion so much any REAL muslim would be outraged.
Bullshit. Have you ever been to an islamic country? I have (Iran, Iraq, Cypress, Bosnia) and I can tell you under no uncertain terms that these people are scum. According to that 'peace loving religion' it's perfectly alright to kill the non-believers.
Just go crawl into a corner and die you gullible bastard.
You stupid cunt. They ARE in the same ranks as murderers and drug dealers. They committed a crime, and therefore should be punished. Perhaps it is not retribution for the damages, however it may make the little bastard think twice before he d/l's his next root kit. You can go ahead and employ the 'smart young computer nerd' all you want, but the little prick won't get a job with me.
It's idiots like you that bring your non-existent 'GOD' into everything that cause shit like this.
Thank you. As an ex-tanker, I couldn't have said it better.
OK Mr McVeigh.
You fail to remember (apparently) that Linux is NOT for Joe Blow It's idiots like this Garcia asshole that are guilty of propagating the elitist attitudes that are rampant in this community.And for this drivel to be scored at 2 is even more idiotic......
Arbitrary time to wake up (set on alarm clock).
Arbitrary time to wake up - 5 = time to start coffee maker (as told to coffee maker by alarm clock).
Wake up to fresh coffee.
I'm not an MCSE, and I don't use the M$ products, but I'm willing to bet that most NT/2000 admins have patched already. I'm sure this will get modded down, because some crack-smoking moderator has already modded the parent up.
The serial port that the cradle on my Boss's machine was attached to just died.
Most of this has already been done. Ever heard of Freenet
http://freenet.sourceforge.net/ for the goatse.cx wary.
EEPROM is also so slow as to be unusable as mass storage.
Calling tv 'intellectual' by any definition is quite a stretch.
You tried. It was called the war of 1812. We kinda burnt the white house to the ground during that little skirmish.