poor neighboors, if they didn't like it before, I wonder how they like the crazy flashes of thousands of slashdotters playing around with the lights...
Subversion does look somewhat better and cleaner than CVS. But there are lots of add-on tools for CVS that will need to get ported (GUIs, servers, web interfaces, IDE integration, etc.). Just the retraining required to get people to use it in a multi-user environment is pretty daunting--CVS is used by many people who are not primarily developers, and the switch wouldn't be easy for them.
Good point, but this is also a big concern of the Subversion folks. This is why subversion looks so much like CVS. The commands and aliases are almost all the same, and a great part of the comportment the users see also is.
The ViewCVS scripts has already been ported to SVN, though it's not perfect yet, it does work. The GUI is pretty much in development indeed : RapidSVN is a working one, yet not complete either. An Emacs mode, similar to the CVS mode, shouldn't bee too hard to code I suppose, this is just a matter of time, will, and knowledge of elisp:)
There was talkings about using SVN as a backend for a wiki too, this could be fun and really nice. A first draft had been coded by Greg Stein (if I'm not mistaken), but it was mostly test stuff.
Subversion still needs help and contributors. People keep whining about CVS not handling file renaming etc, and they also keep using complicated tricks to avoid those flaws. I know, I've done it too. The very same people look at subversion and say "mh, nice, but not mature yet, let's wait it grows up a little". I doubt it'll grow quickly on its own, it just needs some help from all these coders who *will* use it in a few months/years !
Believe me, once you've switched to svn, it just looks life is *so* easier. Try it, it won't bite, and you'll most likely love it !
If you work on a local machine, you can use simple "urls" like file:///var/svn/myrepos/ instead of the http://server/svn/myrepos/, and the Subversion people are now working on new network layer, libsvn_ra_svn, which offers a new networking layer (svn://blahblah/).
A standalone subversion server is also in development, but I don't remember if it's scheduled for 1.0 or not. However, this is free software, if you feel like you need it, you can help developping it !:-)
The point is, this is indeed a good remark, but not a showstopper. And the Apache2 svn server works just perfect for me !
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If I cannot listen to the CD I buy, I'll just stop buying them and start downloading them on the Net in a format my computer *can* read (mp3, ogg). And don't tell me they won't be available online, just type "Muse hullabaloo" in your favorite P2P client and enjoy. This album was supposed to be copy protected.
I hope major vendors will wake up someday and stop acting like stupid. This type of action is just what we are waiting for to justify (well, not legally, but morally) music trading.
Actually, I think RedHat has hidden the command line in its latest release (at least, as hidden as the DOS command in Win98). I guess you are supposed to be able to use the whole system without typing a single command. Ok, I haven't tried it, and since I'm used to using shells, I wouldn't even try. But I'm sure you'll soon be able to use a non-console-based system, just like win98.
Now, as you said, Linux is for geeks. I agree with that, although I would add that it's *not exclusively* for geeks since you can use it for typing letters etc too.
Anyway, I *love* linux because you can really play with the system. Yes, this is the "geeky orientation" you were talking about. I don't mind linux becoming more mainstream with some more userfriendly distros, *as long as* you are still able to play with it (with some less friendly distros like Debian or Gentoo i.e.).
And the OpenSource/Free nature of GNU/Linux makes me think it will always be possible. And that's what's really great about it.
The thing is, most of the bank require the browser to be IE, but you can still access them by changing the User-Agent. Most of the time, the site features are fully usable.
Of course, this shows how stupid they are at blocking non-IE browsers, since it works well without it, but I think it's mostly a question of caring for the minority, because more than 90% of web users use IE.
What about geeks switching banks for one who do care for them ?:)
I find it funny you call Diablo an RPG, but let's not troll.
Blizzard hasn't invented anything with its game. There was Dune2 before Warcraft. Their business lies in improving existing genres. See Starcraft. Nothing really new in that game, but it was so great because of the fantastic gameplay.
I don't see SC Ghost as a revolutionnary game either, but who knows what the gameplay will look like, maybe it'll just be the next reference in the genre. 'cause, imho, Warcraft 3 isn't.
I'm *glad* Blizzard is approaching new kind of games, and not yet another Warcraft/Diablo.
We all know how rare it is that radically new games (Populous, Homeworld, Myst, etc) are released. This is just business, they won't take risks if people keep buying Doom 19. The best we can expect is real improvement in existing genres (B&W, RCT), or mixed genres (I see Warcraft 3 as a failed experiment).
If they want to try some new orientations in game design, fine, let them do, 'cause it can't really be worse than a stupid clone.
Project Entropia will be the next generation of interactive entertainment. In Project Entropia you will able to enter a whole world with amazing three-dimensional environments using a computer and the internet. It will be a massive virtual world where millions of users can interact with each other at the same time. Project Entropia will have a real economy system that allows you as a user to exchange real life money into PED (Project Entropia Dollars) and then back into a real currency again. Project Entropia will be free of charge with no monthly costs, which means that aside from the fees for your own local access to the internet while you are connected, the client software will be available with no payment to MindArk. All you need to do is get hold of the software that will be distributed in various ways, for example through the internet or on free CD's in computer magazines.
I won't even try to find the point of all this (I'm still looking forward to Space Invaders in Morrowind though), but maybe should we stop taking everything that is OpenSource and stupid for great ideas ?:)
Not trolling, just crawling in meaningless features to get something worth reading/playing...
- CVS cannot move files and keep a track of the log. - CVS directory handling is quite horrible
Now, I use CVS as everybody else here does, it works, sure. But there are some problems that should be fixed (and cannot be because of the CVS base), that's why I'll probably switch to Subversion soon. It's still under heavy development, but it gets better from day to day.
Let's support some free software instead of proprietary ones !
... is it more expensive to pay the bill or to pay a lawyer ?
I mean actually you might pay him and the CEO (in this example) just stops being stupid (or speaks with his geeky son) and cancels his report. Then you'll have lost money...
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poor neighboors, if they didn't like it before, I wonder how they like the crazy flashes of thousands of slashdotters playing around with the lights
Subversion does look somewhat better and cleaner than CVS. But there are lots of add-on tools for CVS that will need to get ported (GUIs, servers, web interfaces, IDE integration, etc.). Just the retraining required to get people to use it in a multi-user environment is pretty daunting--CVS is used by many people who are not primarily developers, and the switch wouldn't be easy for them.
:)
Good point, but this is also a big concern of the Subversion folks. This is why subversion looks so much like CVS. The commands and aliases are almost all the same, and a great part of the comportment the users see also is.
The ViewCVS scripts has already been ported to SVN, though it's not perfect yet, it does work. The GUI is pretty much in development indeed : RapidSVN is a working one, yet not complete either. An Emacs mode, similar to the CVS mode, shouldn't bee too hard to code I suppose, this is just a matter of time, will, and knowledge of elisp
There was talkings about using SVN as a backend for a wiki too, this could be fun and really nice. A first draft had been coded by Greg Stein (if I'm not mistaken), but it was mostly test stuff.
Subversion still needs help and contributors. People keep whining about CVS not handling file renaming etc, and they also keep using complicated tricks to avoid those flaws. I know, I've done it too. The very same people look at subversion and say "mh, nice, but not mature yet, let's wait it grows up a little". I doubt it'll grow quickly on its own, it just needs some help from all these coders who *will* use it in a few months/years !
Believe me, once you've switched to svn, it just looks life is *so* easier. Try it, it won't bite, and you'll most likely love it !
If you work on a local machine, you can use simple "urls" like file:///var/svn/myrepos/ instead of the http://server/svn/myrepos/, and the Subversion people are now working on new network layer, libsvn_ra_svn, which offers a new networking layer (svn://blahblah/).
:-)
A standalone subversion server is also in development, but I don't remember if it's scheduled for 1.0 or not. However, this is free software, if you feel like you need it, you can help developping it !
The point is, this is indeed a good remark, but not a showstopper. And the Apache2 svn server works just perfect for me !
Please finish your quotes.
If I cannot listen to the CD I buy, I'll just stop buying them and start downloading them on the Net in a format my computer *can* read (mp3, ogg). And don't tell me they won't be available online, just type "Muse hullabaloo" in your favorite P2P client and enjoy. This album was supposed to be copy protected.
I hope major vendors will wake up someday and stop acting like stupid. This type of action is just what we are waiting for to justify (well, not legally, but morally) music trading.
Actually, I think RedHat has hidden the command line in its latest release (at least, as hidden as the DOS command in Win98). I guess you are supposed to be able to use the whole system without typing a single command. Ok, I haven't tried it, and since I'm used to using shells, I wouldn't even try.
But I'm sure you'll soon be able to use a non-console-based system, just like win98.
Now, as you said, Linux is for geeks. I agree with that, although I would add that it's *not exclusively* for geeks since you can use it for typing letters etc too.
Anyway, I *love* linux because you can really play with the system. Yes, this is the "geeky orientation" you were talking about. I don't mind linux becoming more mainstream with some more userfriendly distros, *as long as* you are still able to play with it (with some less friendly distros like Debian or Gentoo i.e.).
And the OpenSource/Free nature of GNU/Linux makes me think it will always be possible. And that's what's really great about it.
I mean, the stupid "Happy Bugday" pun hasn't even been mentioned yet ?
Eventually, I found a good reason why I should switch from Linux to FreeBSD.
Have you tried Lindows ? ;-)
The thing is, most of the bank require the browser to be IE, but you can still access them by changing the User-Agent. Most of the time, the site features are fully usable.
:)
Of course, this shows how stupid they are at blocking non-IE browsers, since it works well without it, but I think it's mostly a question of caring for the minority, because more than 90% of web users use IE.
What about geeks switching banks for one who do care for them ?
I find it funny you call Diablo an RPG, but let's not troll.
Blizzard hasn't invented anything with its game. There was Dune2 before Warcraft. Their business lies in improving existing genres. See Starcraft. Nothing really new in that game, but it was so great because of the fantastic gameplay.
I don't see SC Ghost as a revolutionnary game either, but who knows what the gameplay will look like, maybe it'll just be the next reference in the genre. 'cause, imho, Warcraft 3 isn't.
I'm *glad* Blizzard is approaching new kind of games, and not yet another Warcraft/Diablo.
We all know how rare it is that radically new games (Populous, Homeworld, Myst, etc) are released. This is just business, they won't take risks if people keep buying Doom 19. The best we can expect is real improvement in existing genres (B&W, RCT), or mixed genres (I see Warcraft 3 as a failed experiment).
If they want to try some new orientations in game design, fine, let them do, 'cause it can't really be worse than a stupid clone.
Actually Doom3 is on PC too, isn't it ? Or did you mean SC Ghost instead of D3 ?
It's called Project Entropia.
Project Entropia will be the next generation of interactive entertainment. In Project Entropia you will able to enter a whole world with amazing three-dimensional environments using a computer and the internet. It will be a massive virtual world where millions of users can interact with each other at the same time. Project Entropia will have a real economy system that allows you as a user to exchange real life money into PED (Project Entropia Dollars) and then back into a real currency again. Project Entropia will be free of charge with no monthly costs, which means that aside from the fees for your own local access to the internet while you are connected, the client software will be available with no payment to MindArk. All you need to do is get hold of the software that will be distributed in various ways, for example through the internet or on free CD's in computer magazines.
> Cool. We got Blender. Next step, do we have free RenderMan compatible programs?
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Nope, first step is to make Blender as good as Maya or at least 3DSM. And this should not be particularily easy
I won't even try to find the point of all this (I'm still looking forward to Space Invaders in Morrowind though), but maybe should we stop taking everything that is OpenSource and stupid for great ideas ? :)
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Not trolling, just crawling in meaningless features to get something worth reading/playing
Yes, and there are others points :
- CVS cannot move files and keep a track of the log.
- CVS directory handling is quite horrible
Now, I use CVS as everybody else here does, it works, sure. But there are some problems that should be fixed (and cannot be because of the CVS base), that's why I'll probably switch to Subversion soon. It's still under heavy development, but it gets better from day to day.
Let's support some free software instead of proprietary ones !
... is it more expensive to pay the bill or to pay a lawyer ?
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I mean actually you might pay him and the CEO (in this example) just stops being stupid (or speaks with his geeky son) and cancels his report. Then you'll have lost money
Now you'll eventually have a reason to wash your hands : if you don't, you won't have access to the computer !
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Mom's gonna be happy
Hey, this is no news !
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We had that before here
Minority Report review.
No, the thing is, people want action, and explosions !
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So unless you want the mission to fail, it won't interest people
Actually he just wanted to be on Slashdot ...
/. ? :)
What would *you* do to be on
[...] in portions of the computing world Linux and related phenomena (GNU/Linux, OSS, etc) [...]
So GNU/Linux is a related phenomena to Linux ? Damn, I have to read that FAQ all over again !
At the altitude where life is suspected the temperature is about 70C and about 1 atmosphere.
I did not know that ET could fly without a bicycle ?
Shockwave ? I already told you that I hate those flash plugins !
Where is the first part ?
The one entitled "HOWTO: Get A Billion Dollars"