New Starcraft: Ghost Trailers
Bobartig writes "Blizzard Entertainment has put up gameplay trailers for their upcoming console title, Starcraft: Ghost. It looks hot. It's available both in both Quicktime and DivX, with plenty of mirrors."
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Blizzard has never made an FPS as far as I know. THis will be a good test for them.
Yes, it looks good... but how does it PLAY? I'm waiting till the release. Blizzard pretty much outsourced most of the work to Nihilistic, so it might not have the same 'feel' as blizzard's other games. But I guess it would be hard to capture the feel of RTS games in an FPS anyway, heh.
I am a filthy pirate.
How long before I get it running on that super wicked IBM super computer?
One man's pink plane is another man's blue plane.
Something I notice on their site is that they'll specifically mention Linux on the trailer download page... perhaps they see Linux (Or *nix/BSD users in general) users as a potential market? One can only hope.
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Its a third person shooter, not first, and although Nihilistic is doing most of the work, Blizzard is still watching it closely.
Also, Nihilistic was started by a group a programmers that left Blizzard after working on StarCraft.
I really don't like consoles, and the gameplay looks awfully stiff, as I expect from those platforms. /me waits for Deus Ex 2 and Doom III.
Do I STILL have to wait 30 seconds to use the nuke?!
Direct download link for DivX, worked for me:
_ Gameplay2002.avi.zip
http://www.nforcefiles.net/afilesa2aa/movie/Ghost
Looks good. Starcraft as an FPS. Different, but interesting. Too bad it's a console game. The only game console I ever had was the Coleco Vision back in the 80's. Anyone heard any news on Starcraft 2?
Sig? What if I prefer Glock?
If I used the AAlib library (http://aa-project.sourceforge.net/aalib/), can I get ghost is a shell?
Strange that Blizzard would release a trailer showing a fair amount of gameplay not much more than a month since the game itself was announced. Remember how long Warcraft 3 was in development?
Damn! I lost my schedule again.
Could someone please remind me if we hate blizzard this week?
thanks.
nbfn
Also noted. DivX was about half the size of the Quicktime file. I guess that makes QT the "Texas" of file formats. Y'all likem big.
Blizzard is a sellout for going console-only. It makes no sense why they can't develop for the PC if they're developing for the X-Box, outside of a contractual agreement.
Looks more like a 3rd person shooter. Too bad consoles dont have a mouse and a keyboard (by default) so that fps's play well. =/
And thats why console games have autoaim.
The QuickTime version is in Sorenson format, as I suspected before I even downloaded it. If it was in MPEG4, it would have been about the same size or smaller than DivX, since MPEG4 and DivX share the same video codex, just differing in audio format.
Took me a while to get the QuickTime version, though. The mirrors weren't working, save perhaps File Planet with its mandatory registration, and I couldn't reach Blizzard's own FTP server with a browser. I used a stand-alone FTP client instead to download it.
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OK, I don't want to troll here... or something. But... the movie... isn't that voice the same that used to do the "descriptions" for bad 70's porno films from Sweden?
This doesn't seem to be a first person game. It's an over the shoulder, third person game.
What's up guys? This story has been up for close to an hour with lots of graphics and BIG data files and I was still able to download the trailer with very nice speed. Is slashdot losing its magic touch?
Russ
Information doesn't want to be anthropomorphized anymore.
..we can still click frantically on the terran units and make them say funny things. :P
> Well, Blizzard hasn't sued anybody attempting to
> do stuff they really shouldn't be doing,
And who the hell tells people what they should and shuldn't be doing? Blizzard? Uh, no... So you're wrong.
The parent post is most certainly neither funny nor original.
I never knew that the SOUL of the WARRIOR had so much to do with wearing form-fitting wetsuits and posing suggestively...
Will there be dramatic netative-color fade-outs that make her ass crack glow in the game too? If not, wanna run out a patch for that? Thanks.
Fwoosh! Blinded by da booty! Take that, Zerg overlord!
Goodnight everybody!
Will there still be that effect where every second or third shot misses for no apparant reason, yet every other hits precisely on-target? I guess this one has permanent auto-aim, or *gasp* continuity is broken!
It'll be located on the control panel. Click to become infested, click again to make all Terrans die.
All I got was a circular fog thing with a voice, bad music and let me restate REALLY LAME GRAPHICS.
I was expecting something some thing that would make me want to play this game.
The seven minuite trailer that I saw last night for Doom III really made me want to buy it (not wait for christmas).
This thing makes me think that a release of Geriatric PAC MAN would be a better choice.
Blizzard should really consider a new advertising agency.
I think that there is one that used to work for Microsoft.
They could use stock photos and do a I switched from freecell and Installed my own game type of ad.
They could even try to get some mileage with a diatribe from a stoned teenager
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apart from the cool cloaking effect and the fish-eye view, I see little or no revolutionary stuff. From what a trailer can tell, I'd put it in the oni/halo category, which happens to be a rather crowded one.
:-)
It's been a while (since the doom3 trailers actually) since I've had a 'wow... this shit is awesome...' reaction, and SC-G doesn't trigger that for me.
Then again, I might have played just a bit too much fps games to get wowed anymore. All I see in those trailers is cannon fodder
When will I end this grieving ? When will my future begin ?
is this just me, or are her boobs to small for an average digital female warrior ?
big fat ass tho... might spurr ideas...
When will I end this grieving ? When will my future begin ?
Random misses occur for low terrain to high terrain shots on all units.
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Imagine the FPS of this running a beow...
-1: stop using that joke...
WTPOUAWYHTTOTWPA
What's the point of using acronyms when you have to type out the whole phrase anyways?
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If it was in MPEG4, it would have been about the same size or smaller than DivX
Woulda looked like crap, too. MPEG-4 is for little children. Sorenson is for stuff that actually needs to look like it was made by people who draw a paycheck.
Warcraft III was like Shakespeare writing a comedy-tragedy. Romeo and the Merry Wives of Windsor, anyone? From what I gather, Ghost is more of the same.
damn, forgot to hit privew.
looks like a solid snake affair but with jubblies.
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That Hyrdalisk that was right on top of him was pretty cool though :) Think of all the cool Starcraft shit that could be in the game... Lurkers and Battlecruisers and Goliaths and Archons.. thousand of zerglings.. :) could be a fun game.
But of course, who really knows. As with everything, have to wait and see...
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But I don't really know which console is the best, and (surprisingly) a quick search at google didn't result in many comparisons between the three consoles. Right now I'm leaning towards a Gamecube (mainly because I had both a NES and a SNES when I was younger, and the Resident Evil remakes), but what do others here recommend? BTW: I have no interest in running Linux on my console :P
It's surely looks like ONI to me. ONI was missing a lot of details and the 3d world was kind of block shaped, but i hope it will be the same 'genre'. Things i loved about were the anime style 3d, and the fact that it was running very nicely on my old laptop (a 333Mhz).
;-)
Well, StarCraft ghost looks far more beautiful, i hope they'll be a dozen of combo to do. Btw, a funny thing is that ONI means ghost or demon in Japanese... So, is this StarCraft - ONI?
Check the web for some shots, scripts and maps at ONI Central and ONI Res. Btw, you can download the demo it's not that big, and i guess i'll playing it in some minutes again.
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That is what came to mind when I saw the preview to this game.
I've never heard of a game being released on *all three* consoles before. Is this new? And, do they really have the leverage to tell the console makers that they don't get an exclusive lock on the game? This seems pretty strange to me.
:)
All that being said, I'm looking forward to GTA4 on Oct 29 much more
I mean, a Linux user cant play any recent games on his computer, so he is more likely to own a console for gaming ... ;)
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When I play this trailer I just get the 'key frames' with no motion in between...
I downloaded and installed the latest DivX codec.
Anyone else get this?
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great...wonderful...IF YOU HAVE A CONSOLE!!! i dont know about any of the rest of you, but i dont have the odd $200-250 to shell out for an xbox, ps2 or gamecube. guess im gonna have to buy all three in order to play any of the new games that are coming out. course, it would prolly all look better with my p4 2.53 and a GF4, but thats besides the point.
I don't matter if blizzard releases another shitty craft-game again.
You are like child. When bnetd was shut down you cried in anger, and some days later you are happy like a child with a candy when blizzard releases the same craft-shit again.
Be adult and consistent with yourself. If you don't like the bnetd case, don't buy anything from then, and write them an e-mail explaining why you will not buy their latest game.
...that someone at Blizzard saw the success Westwood had with C&C: Renegade and thought 'hey, we could do that!'...after all, it's essentially the same concept: take the coolest infantry unit in your RTS game and make a shooter about it...
Twelve Arbiters
Eleven Science Vessels
Ten Ultralisks
Nine Battlecruisers
Eight Archons Burning
Seven Zerglings Swarming
Six Zealots Fighting
Five Newborn Queens
Fout Hydralisks
Three Marines
Two Terran Waiths
And a brand New SCV!
... I wasn't impressed.
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I can't believe this is for a console! I own a PS2, and yes, the game seems made for a console, but I would have thought that this SHOULD have been made for the PC. I will buy it, but I was just hoping to flex my PC's muscles and play this game at my desk with a real keyboard and mouse instead of an awkward console controller.
It's StarCraft after all...made for and inspired by the PC... what else will the video game publishers take away from the PC gamers who MADE the next generation gaming market?
Remember how they used the DMCA as a club against the bnet.d project?
I loved their earlier games, I have Warcraft, Diablo, Diablo 2, and Starcraft (all legit, the only reason why I still have a PC at home with windows) but I will not in good conscience buy another.
My rights don't need management.
Did they go out of their way to look quicktime look bad?
:)
Anyhow, your right, the Video codec used in the Quicktime file is Sorenson.... Sorenson. Not even Sorenson 3, but Sorenson 1! The difference is pretty much clicking a damned checkbox in the encoder!
Or even better, they could have used MPEG-4.
That's not the real kicker though... no, the Audio is even better. Take a wild guess what audio encoding they're using: None.
That's right, uncompressed audio. They had their coice of a dozen different audio encodings, including aac and vbr-mp3, and chose uncompressed audio. That's 14.3 megs of (POOR QUALITY!) audio for a 1 minute 25 second movie file.
Glad to know blizzard has a competent video group
Sorenson Video 3.1 Pro is very competitive against MPEG-4 Advanced Simple implementations like DivX. It supports 2-pass VBR, B-frames, etcetera.
QuickTime can only decode Simple, not Advanced Simple, so SV3.1 can beat it handily.
Of course, they used Sorenson Video 1, which is much old and lousy. Presumably this is for backwards compatibility (to QT3), instead of the only months old QT6 which is required for MPEG-4.
MPEG-4 is awesome, but it is NOT all about maximum quality at small files. Propritary codecs beat all public implementations of MPEG-4 today on this measure.
Of course, being an ISO standard has other, huge, advangages.
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The reason everyone's making 3rd person shooter games is the same one that drove everyone to make platform games back in the NES/SNES/Genesis days. They follow a simple formula, have some level cliches to keep you from having to work too hard on ideas, and with the vast number of others out there it's easy just to copy ideas directly if it gets too hard.
Everything now-a-days has to be 3d (Why this is, I don't know. I'd really like to play another side-scrolling sprite-based Mario Brothers game), and while games like Crash Bandicoot, Sonic Adventures, and Mario64 did well in certain markets, they're not the kinds of titles that sell anymore. They manifestly lack flashy graphics and things exploding, which are what sells games, apparently. As such, the console market had to move on to something else. FPSes have a pretty tight upper limit as to what you can innovate, and most releases focus on the newer, flashier, more-memory-eating graphics than any actual difference in gameplay. Console game authors can't rely on hardware upgrades to support their latest endeavour, so FPS games are pretty much right out. Third-person shooters (or just 3rd person adventure games in general, to include games like Onimusha that fit the mold but lack the guns) give you a little more freedom to innovate ("In this one you play a ninja frog with 76 secret tongue attacks to unlock!") without really moving Too far away from the "slightly-maze-like levels with plenty of moving things to make scream, bleed, and stop moving" formula.
So until someone comes up with a new display medium, we'll probably be stuck with an ever increasing selection of 3rd person adventure games and progressively more movie-like RPGs to play on consoles.
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Wow, I thought a larger company like that would have more resources. I can't even get to their main site. mmmmmmmmmm the power of slashdot.. hah
For some reason I can't access blizzard.com properly (did we manage to slashdot it or is it the screwy gateway on my host being weird again). On the trailer it mentioned all three consoles, but not PC. I assume this is because there's no logo for PC (unless we're going windows symbol and tux for linux, etc), or would they be so cruel as to release it for console before PC?
There's too much marketing going out to console games right now. I need something other than NWN to test my CPU and video card to the edge.
(and while they're at it, can they get the Squaresoft guys to bring out FFX for PC too?)
a steamy pile of crap, I have to agree. It's not a flame if it's an objective statement by someone who still owns a Texas Instruments console. I have standards ppl and Ghost is almost the exact opposite of a new Halflife mod 'Natural Selection'. No gameplay depth, just pretty colors. That's what warcraft iii turned out to be about.
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Frankly, I doubt if most people on Slashdot care about Blizzard coming up with yet another game to consume lives. I could be wrong, but it has to be wrong when a game is considered bigger news on Slashdot than the death of a liberal, anti-big-business senator. I think that these are both newsworthy here, but as technology gets increasingly political, the death of a senator involved in one of the key races that will determine who controls the US Senate should be considered news. Senator Wellstone was looked at favorably in his one mentioning on Slashdot. But, I digress. Most people should have multiple sources of news anyway. Since this is headline news everywhere else, why put it here? (But then why did Slashdot do 9/11 coverage this year?) Just some stuff to think about. Peace.
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