Its not quite the same, it looks like OS X offers the ability to ALWAYS show extensions but otherwise its handled on a per file basis. I know some files just don't have them period, IIRC this is what Office v.X does by default.
Currently I don't have the "always show extensions" checked but I see a.pdf and a.txt on my desktop. While earlier today, while one of the windows labs, in an attempt to open up a source file to print I opened my hw.f with textpad, after wards the icon change and the extension disappeared. Slightly different way of doing things.
At least with os x you don't end up with 3 different files named setup two of which appear to have icons that look like they might be what I need to run to install something.
All I'm saying is that any mild announcement of a processor upgrade gets submitted and approved on slashdot.
This isn't just apple, almost all minor processor upgrades get submitted and approved. And if you're getting offended because slashdot posted news about a processor upgrade, maybe you need to question why you're reading the news here...
Windows has never asked me "Are you sure?" before crashing.
Yeah, well the car isn't either. The car is asking you if its ok for it to save your life.
But.. I think this is pointless anyway because that question would never be asked by windows, what it would actually ask is. "Your car has encountered an interruption in normal driving. If the airbag is deployed you will have to replace it. Would you like me to not deploy the airbag."
with boxes saying "Yes" "No" and a check box giving you the option to not have it ask you the question in the future.
I don't even think it was the default way to make a game. I can only think of a handful that actually used it.. Sega Rally, Armada, and... maybe chu chu rocket. It was just an option for faster easier and possibly simpler development.
If someone cuts into an onion with a knife my eyes imediately start to water. I'd imagine the same thing would happen if someone took a knife to my ibook.
So I think I am going to go with the onion on this one.
>I also have an old Pentium II machine which can be upgraded to...a faster Pentium II, but not an AMD processor, nor a Pentium III or Pentium IV, because Intel's CPU slots are PROPRIETARY.
BULLSHIT. You can drop in your choice of P II, P III, or C3 processor. If your motherboard is simply too crappy, well, it's not my fault you invested in PC Chips junk.
Thats kinda harsh, I mean excuse me for not knowing that intel was 18 months from bringing out the P3 with a 100mhrfz fsb when I picked up my p2 233 back in the day. let alone the 133 mghfs bus 3 years down the line. I know that your all knowing magic hat told you what kind of upgrades where in the pipeline but not all of us can be so enlightened.
And, more bullshit, yes, you can upgrade even your 486 motherboard to a P IV. It's called a PCI slot motherboard, and it's the same bullshit "upgrade" that Apple is feeding you. Except they pretend it's a good idea. It isn't.
Actually apple doesn't feed any upgrades, at all! No cdr or dvdr upgrades ever. They do have easy access ram and sometimes HDD or PCI/AGP but as far as I know go they don't really handle CPU upgrades.
Demand is the reason for this, not stupid Apple R&D. They are apparently good enough for some consumers. A new Mac is kinda expensive.
>Apple embraces more open standards than Microsoft or Intel.
LOL! Show me some Jaguar source code! Why did it take so long to get the iPod working on windows? Why did Apple put Appletalk on your old Mac? Why are all firewire ports I've seen called i.Link, S-400, or IEEE1394?
First off, standards are not really equal to open source. Crap, the guy wasn't even mentioning oss in his argument, it says Microsoft, maybe you missed it because it was spelled wrong. I've been reading slashdot for a while and I guess that they changed their name to Micro$oft now. That is how everyone is writing it now...
And who the hell knows why ieee1394 has seventeen different names. Pisses me off too, but it is part of a standard so I don't really see what the point is, at least the stuff is compatible even if its a tad confusing.
>Apparently they are, since this article was about Sony's new 12" Powerbook Killer.
Oh yeah, that 12" powerbook. It's so innovative to squeeze a bunch of high-tech into a small box!
Yeah, uh.. this is way out of context. He actually said something more along the lines of the powerbooks being the benchmark for laptops, benchmarks aren't necessarily innovative they just kick ass.
Look, if you want innovative, look at Gateway's Handbook. Now THAT'S innovative. Heck, I remember those being made back some time around '92 with 286 processors! Apple just dusted off some history books.
And this is of course totally relevant because not only are Gateway computers totally sweet today but this particular model is so freaking awesome that kids are paying outrageous amounts of money on ebay for them. I'm sure some more patient individual could scape up even more innovative pieces of hardware from apple's past that would be a total indication of the companies total domination of the entire world today.
>The G3 kicked the Wintel machines butts.
Did it? Dollar for Dollar? MIPS to MIPS?
Or was it just in specially optimized applications?
This is just stupid, what the hell do you buy a computer for; to not run applications?? I know that my ibook was actually purchased for the reason of doing continual benchmarks and watching the result. Or maybe I just wanted to be able to browse the web, on an application written for my computer.
Who cares if the performance of an real world application is a result of optimization. It may make yo
Well, comparing itunes to PlayCenter isn't really fair. The nomad doesn't look to be mac compatable, just like the extigy (would have bought it to use with my ibook if it was) but when I had my pc I did use PlayCenter a bit and I really don't mind it THAT much, I preffered it to WMP7.... doesn't say much though. If the thing had, say, worked how you'd expect it to it would have been fine. ie, Song title being the song's title and not the file's name, creating a properly organized directory structure for your files (/artist/album/songs not/artist - album/songs), and not crashing (ugh, stupid splash screen never seemed to finish starting). Maybe they've fixed this stuff and if they did then I'd say the thing is decent. Then again Windows had me wanting to throw it out an actual window several times a day so maybe I'm being nice to creative.
Although itunes does all of this and provides a really great interface, a better comparision would be MusicMatch, what the ipod uses on the PC. I haven't had a lot of time on MM recently so I can't really comment.
Also I don't know if the extra mac features for the ipod work on the PC; multilingual characters, address book, calendar... If your dead set on using PC's and don't mind creative's software or the stightly larger size/weight & lack of style, your probably better off with the nomad.
If a product needs to be protected from its user, then something really is amiss.
Hmm, maybe you haven't spent time around laptops and normal users. A guy I know works as a Sys Admin where many employees have been issued Dell laptops. These dell laptops are built to use the desktop for passive heat transfer so of course when they start to get hot what do the users do, prop the system up to add more airflow below the unit. He had to say that was wrong "because Dell said so" before they would believe him when he told them that was the cause of their laptops overheating and crashing. Not everyone is so technically knowledgeable and sometimes those people make mistakes. I am sure many people have made this type of innocent mistake.
The right product will: meet the user's needs and not be so expensive as to require financing nor extended warranties. This results in a low-risk purchase that simply works better in the long run.
I rarely purchase extended warranties on products I buy, most items are relatively well built and will outlast their usefullnes. I did purchase one with my PS2 though. After getting stuck with a dud PS1 I wasn't going to do the same thing again (I would have passed on the unit totally but GT3 looked too good). Hmm, $30 dollars or possibly $100-$300... seemed like a good deal on that one. Not all extended warranties are good but some do exist . As an ibook owner I am not sure if I'll pick up the extended warranty but I definitely would not consider my preference to spend $250 now as apposed to chance $1200 or whatever a 700 will cost in a year to replace or repair as a reason that I made a mistake in purchasing it. You are confusing the ability the shell out the money with the willingness to shell out the money. Although, it is usually a good idea to stay away from debt but all things come down to a personal choice and there are circumstances where financing can be helpful. Then again, what does financing have to do with customer service.
The question should be: "Do I really need a full-blown PowerBook at greater than $2500, or can I get by just fine without spending as much money? The answer can be suprising.
And the answer is probably "none of your damn business."
What does this have to do with apple's customer service or the value of AppleCare? If the lady bought the computer she had a reason, what that reason was, be it a need for larger display, faster processor, or even that it looked cute, isn't really part of any discusion here. She clearly had the money to purchase the product and might just *gasp* be happy with it.
There really is no comparison between these two. You could say that heavy policing doesn't work to prevent crimes, of course if you were infering that... well then how bout we just go ahead and make murder punishable by a simple fine as well. Although admittedly, the comparison of murder to marijuana use isn't really fair, after all for the most part smoking marijuana is fairly victimless (aside from the harm to yourself), unlike murder where you are clearly infringing on another persons right to live.
With software piracy we are also NOT dealing with a victimless crime though. As much as some people would like to think otherwise, commercial software doe have a place in the world and those companies that prefer to sell their product DO have a right to protect their ability to do that effectively.
Now if you would like to debate the method that they are going about this, you may have an arguement, although I don't think much much of a comparison can be drawn between software piracy and marijuana use.
Now this is actually benefitial to me, since my walls are the same ones that came with the appartment and the can't support anything higher than that... something about the reflectivity or texture not too sure I kinda zoned out when the tech guy started using those "big words". I'll probably upgrade one of these days.
You could have a sort of "key stroke buffer" and check to see if that is empty or not before sending traffic. While you could see some possible variation in the timeing of the stokes it probably wouldn't be enough to guess a password off of especially if you gave it just the right timing. Would look kinda wierd to have characters pop up at a specified interval though. Oh well, all in the name of security;p
You still don't get my point, just because you can't buy it doesn't mean that it is bad. I would really like to own a Mercedes too but I can't, if anything my lack of funds is bad for Mercedes. Thats ok though, it doesn't mean that Mercedes or anyone has wronged me in some way.
As for Win2k being the Benz of the OS world, I don't really think there a Benz of the OS world. For example I own a Radeon and have horendous Win2k gaming performance and it doesn't run all of my legacy programs. Therefore I get my kicks in ME. I would never consider linux the Mercedes of the OS world, it does have its uses like Win and is perfectly suited for the hot rodder type area.
Contrary to what you might believe I think it was beautiful strategy to include Word Pad free with Windows, and it does still have notepad so the text editor arguement is bogus and who says and who says an OS needs to have a word processor anyway, no one. Sure its nice but it sure does make WP a little less attractive to OEMs. MS really shouldn't be the one responsible for placing a Word Proccessor in the hads of new computer buyers, it should be OEMs.
As for WP and SO being able to read doc, of course they can but it is MS's format and I am sure no one does it better than MS.
Not matter what you say there are no real viable alternatives to Windows. If the auto market was solely comprised of Mercedes and I decided to make a car but it couldn't be driven on normal rodes would it really be considered competition? (it sounds pretty stupid but so does an OS without any software for it) No and neither would the notion that you could build your own car. Of course there are other OSes out there. Heck we could all install DrDos tomarrow and be really cool while we looked at the command prompt, but that isn't a viable alternative. So, while you are corrent in saying that even if a product have 95%+ market share (like Windows)it isn't a monopoly if there are alternatives, in the OS market you need more than just availability to truely be an alternative and in this case there is no real alternative. I suggest you read the Finding of Fact in the antitrust case, quite interesting to say the least.
When I said it would cost milions or billions I was speaking of getting a foothold in the OS business and making money, not as a hobby. The cost behind getting an OS up and in the market is not with the developement of the OS itself, although I doubt that is a small investment, it would come in getting applications to run on the OS either by convincing companies to port their software to your OS and then aiding them in getting there existing products on your OS or creating your own applications or porting someone elses. Obviously the first one getting someone else to do the work would be nice but who would. They would enjoy no increased sales in the effort since the new OS would be a replacement for windows (either for existing installs or computers that would otherwise have windows installed) which it already is selling software for. Very few companies would do this.
So top finish off my words on this subject
Making money is the benefit of market share.
Having the fed try to break you apart is the benefit of abusing your market share;P
MS doesn't have a head start in the OS market its got an armed stronghold in front of the finish line.
The cost to gain a foothold in the OS market has everything to do with MS being a Monopoly.
Slashdot Mirror
apparently not
People named Bill Gates said that before about 640k of ram.
You want to see which one blows up the best???
Its not quite the same, it looks like OS X offers the ability to ALWAYS show extensions but otherwise its handled on a per file basis. I know some files just don't have them period, IIRC this is what Office v.X does by default.
.pdf and a .txt on my desktop. While earlier today, while one of the windows labs, in an attempt to open up a source file to print I opened my hw.f with textpad, after wards the icon change and the extension disappeared. Slightly different way of doing things.
Currently I don't have the "always show extensions" checked but I see a
At least with os x you don't end up with 3 different files named setup two of which appear to have icons that look like they might be what I need to run to install something.
wait, what was the article about again??
Eh hem... There WAS a G5 in the background.
eh, hem...
He did manage to use an exclamation point.
Like spanish??
This isn't just apple, almost all minor processor upgrades get submitted and approved.
And if you're getting offended because slashdot posted news about a processor upgrade, maybe you need to question why you're reading the news here...
Well.. as for the open parts, you don't. There is an x86 version of darwin.
Yup, engineering and motorola.
Or maybe they could have made it blue... ?
Windows has never asked me "Are you sure?" before crashing.
Yeah, well the car isn't either. The car is asking you if its ok for it to save your life.
But.. I think this is pointless anyway because that question would never be asked by windows, what it would actually ask is.
"Your car has encountered an interruption in normal driving. If the airbag is deployed you will have to replace it. Would you like me to not deploy the airbag."
with boxes saying "Yes" "No" and a check box giving you the option to not have it ask you the question in the future.
I don't even think it was the default way to make a game. I can only think of a handful that actually used it.. Sega Rally, Armada, and ... maybe chu chu rocket. It was just an option for faster easier and possibly simpler development.
If someone cuts into an onion with a knife my eyes imediately start to water. I'd imagine the same thing would happen if someone took a knife to my ibook.
;p
So I think I am going to go with the onion on this one.
Parfaits are very tasty though
I was going to agree with you that the new box wasn't that attractive. Then I read your post...
I think you're talking about the box that the G5 ships in. The picture on apple.com is of that, not the actual machine.
Thats kinda harsh, I mean excuse me for not knowing that intel was 18 months from bringing out the P3 with a 100mhrfz fsb when I picked up my p2 233 back in the day. let alone the 133 mghfs bus 3 years down the line. I know that your all knowing magic hat told you what kind of upgrades where in the pipeline but not all of us can be so enlightened.
Actually apple doesn't feed any upgrades, at all! No cdr or dvdr upgrades ever. They do have easy access ram and sometimes HDD or PCI/AGP but as far as I know go they don't really handle CPU upgrades.
Demand is the reason for this, not stupid Apple R&D. They are apparently good enough for some consumers. A new Mac is kinda expensive.
First off, standards are not really equal to open source. Crap, the guy wasn't even mentioning oss in his argument, it says Microsoft, maybe you missed it because it was spelled wrong. I've been reading slashdot for a while and I guess that they changed their name to Micro$oft now. That is how everyone is writing it now...
And who the hell knows why ieee1394 has seventeen different names. Pisses me off too, but it is part of a standard so I don't really see what the point is, at least the stuff is compatible even if its a tad confusing.
Yeah, uh.. this is way out of context. He actually said something more along the lines of the powerbooks being the benchmark for laptops, benchmarks aren't necessarily innovative they just kick ass.
And this is of course totally relevant because not only are Gateway computers totally sweet today but this particular model is so freaking awesome that kids are paying outrageous amounts of money on ebay for them. I'm sure some more patient individual could scape up even more innovative pieces of hardware from apple's past that would be a total indication of the companies total domination of the entire world today.
This is just stupid, what the hell do you buy a computer for; to not run applications?? I know that my ibook was actually purchased for the reason of doing continual benchmarks and watching the result. Or maybe I just wanted to be able to browse the web, on an application written for my computer.
Who cares if the performance of an real world application is a result of optimization. It may make yo
Well I assume your not that good at Dr Mario. :P
Cause if you were you wouldn't be just
"sort of seeing her"
You'd have a clean view of the whole package!
I never realized that laptops had such problems. My ibook is the only laptop I've ever owned and I don't think I would ever go back to Windows.
Well, comparing itunes to PlayCenter isn't really fair. The nomad doesn't look to be mac compatable, just like the extigy (would have bought it to use with my ibook if it was) but when I had my pc I did use PlayCenter a bit and I really don't mind it THAT much, I preffered it to WMP7.... doesn't say much though. If the thing had, say, worked how you'd expect it to it would have been fine. ie, Song title being the song's title and not the file's name, creating a properly organized directory structure for your files (/artist/album/songs not /artist - album/songs), and not crashing (ugh, stupid splash screen never seemed to finish starting). Maybe they've fixed this stuff and if they did then I'd say the thing is decent. Then again Windows had me wanting to throw it out an actual window several times a day so maybe I'm being nice to creative.
Although itunes does all of this and provides a really great interface, a better comparision would be MusicMatch, what the ipod uses on the PC. I haven't had a lot of time on MM recently so I can't really comment.
Also I don't know if the extra mac features for the ipod work on the PC; multilingual characters, address book, calendar... If your dead set on using PC's and don't mind creative's software or the stightly larger size/weight & lack of style, your probably better off with the nomad.
I really hate to say it though.
Hmm, maybe you haven't spent time around laptops and normal users. A guy I know works as a Sys Admin where many employees have been issued Dell laptops. These dell laptops are built to use the desktop for passive heat transfer so of course when they start to get hot what do the users do, prop the system up to add more airflow below the unit.
He had to say that was wrong "because Dell said so" before they would believe him when he told them that was the cause of their laptops overheating and crashing. Not everyone is so technically knowledgeable and sometimes those people make mistakes. I am sure many people have made this type of innocent mistake.
I rarely purchase extended warranties on products I buy, most items are relatively well built and will outlast their usefullnes. I did purchase one with my PS2 though. After getting stuck with a dud PS1 I wasn't going to do the same thing again (I would have passed on the unit totally but GT3 looked too good). Hmm, $30 dollars or possibly $100-$300... seemed like a good deal on that one. Not all extended warranties are good but some do exist . As an ibook owner I am not sure if I'll pick up the extended warranty but I definitely would not consider my preference to spend $250 now as apposed to chance $1200 or whatever a 700 will cost in a year to replace or repair as a reason that I made a mistake in purchasing it. You are confusing the ability the shell out the money with the willingness to shell out the money.
Although, it is usually a good idea to stay away from debt but all things come down to a personal choice and there are circumstances where financing can be helpful. Then again, what does financing have to do with customer service.
And the answer is probably "none of your damn business."
What does this have to do with apple's customer service or the value of AppleCare? If the lady bought the computer she had a reason, what that reason was, be it a need for larger display, faster processor, or even that it looked cute, isn't really part of any discusion here. She clearly had the money to purchase the product and might just *gasp* be happy with it.
Except that these are completely different....
... well then how bout we just go ahead and make murder punishable by a simple fine as well. Although admittedly, the comparison of murder to marijuana use isn't really fair, after all for the most part smoking marijuana is fairly victimless (aside from the harm to yourself), unlike murder where you are clearly infringing on another persons right to live.
There really is no comparison between these two. You could say that heavy policing doesn't work to prevent crimes, of course if you were infering that
With software piracy we are also NOT dealing with a victimless crime though. As much as some people would like to think otherwise, commercial software doe have a place in the world and those companies that prefer to sell their product DO have a right to protect their ability to do that effectively.
Now if you would like to debate the method that they are going about this, you may have an arguement, although I don't think much much of a comparison can be drawn between software piracy and marijuana use.
Now this is actually benefitial to me, since my walls are the same ones that came with the appartment and the can't support anything higher than that... something about the reflectivity or texture not too sure I kinda zoned out when the tech guy started using those "big words". I'll probably upgrade one of these days.
Why would gnomes care about being able to speak elvish??
You could have a sort of "key stroke buffer" and check to see if that is empty or not before sending traffic. While you could see some possible variation in the timeing of the stokes it probably wouldn't be enough to guess a password off of especially if you gave it just the right timing. Would look kinda wierd to have characters pop up at a specified interval though. Oh well, all in the name of security ;p
As for Win2k being the Benz of the OS world, I don't really think there a Benz of the OS world. For example I own a Radeon and have horendous Win2k gaming performance and it doesn't run all of my legacy programs. Therefore I get my kicks in ME. I would never consider linux the Mercedes of the OS world, it does have its uses like Win and is perfectly suited for the hot rodder type area.
Contrary to what you might believe I think it was beautiful strategy to include Word Pad free with Windows, and it does still have notepad so the text editor arguement is bogus and who says and who says an OS needs to have a word processor anyway, no one. Sure its nice but it sure does make WP a little less attractive to OEMs. MS really shouldn't be the one responsible for placing a Word Proccessor in the hads of new computer buyers, it should be OEMs.
As for WP and SO being able to read doc, of course they can but it is MS's format and I am sure no one does it better than MS.
Not matter what you say there are no real viable alternatives to Windows. If the auto market was solely comprised of Mercedes and I decided to make a car but it couldn't be driven on normal rodes would it really be considered competition? (it sounds pretty stupid but so does an OS without any software for it) No and neither would the notion that you could build your own car. Of course there are other OSes out there. Heck we could all install DrDos tomarrow and be really cool while we looked at the command prompt, but that isn't a viable alternative. So, while you are corrent in saying that even if a product have 95%+ market share (like Windows)it isn't a monopoly if there are alternatives, in the OS market you need more than just availability to truely be an alternative and in this case there is no real alternative. I suggest you read the Finding of Fact in the antitrust case, quite interesting to say the least.
When I said it would cost milions or billions I was speaking of getting a foothold in the OS business and making money, not as a hobby. The cost behind getting an OS up and in the market is not with the developement of the OS itself, although I doubt that is a small investment, it would come in getting applications to run on the OS either by convincing companies to port their software to your OS and then aiding them in getting there existing products on your OS or creating your own applications or porting someone elses. Obviously the first one getting someone else to do the work would be nice but who would. They would enjoy no increased sales in the effort since the new OS would be a replacement for windows (either for existing installs or computers that would otherwise have windows installed) which it already is selling software for. Very few companies would do this.
So top finish off my words on this subject
Making money is the benefit of market share.
Having the fed try to break you apart is the benefit of abusing your market share;P
MS doesn't have a head start in the OS market its got an armed stronghold in front of the finish line.
The cost to gain a foothold in the OS market has everything to do with MS being a Monopoly.