XP can boot fairly comfortable for low-to-mid-end users in 256Mb - it ain't fast, it'll swap, but on network managed machines without the usual startup cruft you'll get work done without in-app pauses
I was working in a couple of schools east of Toronto last year, where the local public school board has standardized PC's in the classrooms. They were P4 2GHz desktop machines running XP with 128MB of RAM! I still shake my head over the pointlessness of these machines: they would have been capable of being more than usable for many years to come, but everyone complained about how slow and noisy they were. Gee, maybe that's because they were swapping like crazy all the time?
... the peak electricity consumption is still typically in the summer.
Here in Ontario, the power utility (Ontario Hydro) never has issues with providing power in the coldest days of winter, because very few homes or businesses here are electrically heated. We get some pretty hot days in the summer, though, and we end up having to buy electricity from neighboring provinces and states to keep the A/C humming.
As for my claim of having nothing to hide, why do I care if someone collects information about me?
Because there are a lot of things in everyone's life (yours included, I'm betting) that you do want to hide! There are 3 metric assloads of facts about my life that are just plain no one else's business, even if the vast majority are perfectly legal and even more are, IMHO, perfectly ethical and moral.
What I care about, is what rights I have, which is what prevents a totalitarian government, not creates.
Even if I am as perfect as Christ himself, and I am fully in the legal and constitutional right, I still don't want people to know stuff about me when they don't need to know stuff about me. One person's completely legal behaviour hasn't stopped other people from causing all sorts of grief, particularly if they hold some degree of power (such as a policeman, landlord, banker, boss, teacher, etc). Sure, you can fight to assert your rights against the abuse of said power. But it is a pain in the ass to have to go through the (long, expensive, stressful) process of defending your rights, especially when having your privacy protected in the first place would have avoided the whole mess in the first place.
As for the existence of your rights preventing a totalitarian regime: well, you're going to lose those rights unless the people are proactive in fighting to keep them. A population that will not (or cannot) prevent the removal of their rights will get a totalitarian government for their trouble.
By arguing over the collection of information, you make yourself look guilty.
Only because too many people, like yourself, are eager to allow others to pry into their personal lives without resistance. If most people were more willing to resist this attitude of intrusion into our personal lives, we wouldn't look guilty, and you would look weak.
I've got quite a lot of stuff in old Word and CorelDraw formats. If it hadn't been for this post, I'd no doubt have found myself in exactly the situation described: utterly screwed months or years after I installed the Service Pack and with no idea what the problem was.
I can't believe Microsoft would want to piss people off on purpose, especially given the difficulty they've been having with Vista. On the other hand, I can't see how anybody running a business could be so utterly, arrogantly stupid. All it would take to treat the user properly is one simple sentence informing them about the consequences of installing SP3.
One thing's sure: I'll remember the Open Office workaround described earlier if I ever run into a similar problem.
And yet you give no mention about you doing anything about this situation yourself. What about now going forward? Are you going to be stuck again in 5 years, unable to open documents you created in 2003? More to the point about what you can do now, what about in 10 years, when you're unable to open the documents you will create in 2008? This is likely to be exactly what will happen unless you get off proprietary file formats now!
I'm sorry if I misunderstood you, but it sounds like you will continue using MS Office and will count on OpenOffice to be your "safety net". If not, I apologize. But I know that a lot of people will do precisely nothing differently from this time forward, even if they do get dinged by this SP3 problem. I have difficulty generating sympathy now, and I will have none at all for anybody in the future who will have this happen to them again.
In other news, a $13000 Hyundai gets me from point A to point B just as well as a $43000 BMW. Why on Earth are people buying those BMW's???! It's craziness!
Of course a BMW is a better car than a Hyundai, just as HD-DVD/Blu-ray are better than DVD. Most people don't care about that, either. They can't justify the benefits, given the increased cost. From 2006 sales figures, Hyundai sold 455,012 cars, while BMW sold 274,432. Seems more people, by your own example, agree with me.
You're spot on about quality - my parents made do for years with a standard TV that had a messed up horizontal - everything was stretched so wide that by setting the DVD player to thinking it was trying to dispay standard width on a widescreen using bars was just right.
Hmm... you may have touched upon why I don't care so much about the quality, as well. I grew up in rural northern Ontario. No digital satellites yet, only a few adventurous types purchased BUDs (big ugly dishes). My family had a grand total of four channels to choose from (until digital satellite came in the mid-90's). This was via two antennas on the roof: one for the two Canadian signals, one for the two American signals. In addition, we didn't even bother getting a colour TV until 1989!
To me, DVD is still way better quality than I think is necessary. My background probably explains why this is so.
Lastly, a HUGE number of consumers can't even tell the difference between DVD and HD quality! The difference in sound is total marketing drivel. But the difference in picture- oh yes, it is major. But that goes to show... if most consumers can't even tell the difference, why should they pay more?
Although there may be some that can't tell the difference in quality, I think a far larger proportion of people just don't care about the increase in quality (myself included). I've seen demos in stores. I've seen a Sony disc that tries to show the difference side-by-side on the same movie (splitting the screen of a scene to show the left side as DVD and the other as Blu-Ray). Yeah, it's way better, but I don't give a crap! I don't have the cash, or the desire, to upgrade my television. DVD is good enough for me, and will be for a long, long time. I do not have interest in paying one cent more for the better quality video.
Never mind how much more difficult it is to rip the content!
I don't like how the author criticizes gPC for not preinstalling the flash player. I believe that was due to licensing limitations.
Then they should have put in a script that runs the first time the machine is loaded, offering to download and install Flash Player. Or, even better, pay the (I'm sure minimal) amount of money to Adobe to allow it to be pre-installed. Hell, they touted YouTube as a featured use of the computer: Flash is kind of necessary to visit YouTube! To leave a Linux neophyte to install a tar.gz from Adobe, or to let him find "flashplayer-nonfree" from the repositories, is a bit of failure here!
I'm generally in agreement with you: the reviewer's points weren't necessarily all motivated by PC Mag's dependence of MS advertising money. But don't let Everex off the hook for their poor handling of the Flash issue. This really is one of the things that will sour a user's experience right away with Linux.
HINT: One CD worth of MP3's fits rather nicely on a cheap 1Gb thumb drive.
Ummm... given that a CD / CD-R has a capacity of about 700MB, and that a standard CD can hold "one CD worth" in an uncompressed format, I'd wager that that you could fit rather more than "one CD worth of MP3's" onto a 1GB thumb drive! Probably more like 10 or 12 albums (of course, your bitrate may vary).
Consumers can still vote with their wallets, and I hope they do.
I already have: neither!
Now, of course, that could very well be because I have no extra money for a hi-def player, or HD movies, or the required HD television... but even if I did, I'd still be sitting out this upgrade cycle. Sure, HD is nice (really nice) looking, but not good enough to warrant upgrading all the equipment and titles unless the cost is trivial (and it isn't). Add to the fact that format-shifting DVD content is drop-dead easy (I hate handling the discs, and refuse to allow my young daughter to do so), and sticking with DVDs is an easy choice.
The sooner one HD format wins, the sooner that consumers will start adopting it, then the sooner the studios can start to phase out and ignore standard DVD as a format. However long that is (and I know it will be a long while), I want that extended as long as possible.
You're damn lucky the cops have less-lethal weapons as an option (lead beanbags, tasers, paintball pepper spray, etc etc etc), rather than just "do I shoot this guy or not".
I think the main problem is that tasers are not being used only as an alternative to a gun. If police were to think "I will only use the taser in the circumstance that otherwise I would be firing my gun," then your point is valid. However, it seems that in many situations, police are using tasers as a way to simply make their job of arresting someone easier.
The videotape of the guy in Vancouver shows pretty clearly that he was not in the process of attacking the police when they tased him. I seriously doubt that the police would have shot him had they arrived without a taser in that circumstance. Without a taser, they probably would have tried to slowly convey to him their intent to arrest him (he didn't speak English), and if unsuccessful they would have had to tackle him and struggle to restrain him. Both processes would be lengthy, difficult, and stressful for the police. Instead, it appears that they took an easy shortcut and just tased him so they could get the cuffs on him quickly. The man paid for this with his life. Without a taser, I submit he would likely be alive today.
So you're right: a taser used as a substitute for a gun (when the use of a gun is warranted) is fine. Using a taser when use of a gun is not warranted is the problem!
I half agree with you. The price of books should be from $2 to $10 (variable, depending on the volume of sales), with the more popular and older works definitely at the lower end of that scale. I'd also be willing to put up with non-insane DRM at that price.
But I would pay $400 for a well-engineered, well-built reader. A device that would be about the same dimensions as a smallish laptop, only really thin. A full-sized screen (about 12"). Designed to take a lot of punishment. Able to display ordinary PDFs properly. Software to vary the text size and to rotate the book from landscape to portrait instantly. A good user interface.
In short, a piece of hardware that is built to be usable (and profitable for its manufacturer) without being beholden to publishers for continued book sales going forward. If the hardware is tied to a book sales service, it will suck. If the hardware is unattached to the publishing industry, it may suck, but not necessarily so.
An unsecured WAP is much like the above car, you're still using something that doesn't belong to you without permission. You aren't paying for the internet connection, you didn't buy the WAP.
I disagree. An unsecured WAP (with SSID broadcast enabled) is actually advertising that it is open for use. If you ask for permission to connect, its DHCP server grants you permission to do so. Hey, the WAP's owner configured it that way, why should we second-guess intent? Hell, most people's laptops don't even ask their user: they just connect automatically to the strongest signal they can find. Who's responsible then?
To extend your car example,
An unsecured WAP is much like above car, except that the car has a sign on it stating that the car is available for anyone to drive, anytime they wish. True, you didn't pay, but permission is granted to take it anyway.
Why was the RCMP *ever* involved in investigating copyright violation? I always thought (at least here in Canada, where we don't yet have a "DMCA" law) that violation of copyright was a civil infraction. I also thought that the police limited their investigations to criminal infractions.
Of course, I could very well be totally wrong!:-P
Any Canadian lawyers know of the legislation that our police were acting upon when they were involved?
Does anybody else remember the building of his (maybe it's the same one, now that I think of it) where a concave section of polished metal on the outer carapace, unbeknownst to everyone, was actually focused on a window of a building across the street. In the room with that window, the temperature was noticeably warmer than the rest of the building and was actually causing all kinds of havoc.
Southern Ontario, as all too often needs to be pointed out, Is Not All Of Canada.
Fine, I failed to point out that the southernmost point in Ontario is also the southernmost point in Canada. My bad. What I wanted to say is that there is a heck of a distance between 42 degrees and 45.5 degrees latitude. About 240 miles, if I'm not mistaken.
The entirety of southern Ontario is roughly at or below 45.5 degrees. Quebec below Montreal. A good chunk of New Brunswick. Heck, right in Nova Scotia they could go to Yarmouth and be under 44 degrees (at least 100 miles further south).
I doubt that the location for this base was selected primarily for its latitude. If it was, a quick glance at a grade-school atlas would show that to be a rather odd choice.
There wouldn't be a problem if sports teams, concert venues, etc. just charged scalper like fees to begin with, then discounted the unsold tickets closer to the event time, if needed.
While this is technically correct in the short term, professional sports teams know that there is a long-term issue with doing this: erosion of good-will between the team and the majority (middle-class) of fans. Which would kill off all interest eventually.
If tickets were sold the way you suggest, many people (including season-ticket holders) would not be able to afford them at their face value. Only the wealthy could purchase them beforehand. You're asking that fans must arrive at the stadium before a game and *hope* that reasonably-priced tickets become available for the quantity you want to get. Sorry, but most people don't operate that way. Most people want to have their seats guaranteed before going out their front door. The people who buy from scalpers today (arriving without knowing if they'll get in or not) are a small minority. You'll end up no middle class at all at the games: the only people who will get the last minute tickets will be the dregs who have nothing else to do.
If you alienate the middle-class fan from your sports team, they will stop caring about it. Fans who know that they'll never get a chance to see their team live start to lose interest. This effect is only magnified when everyone knows that the reason is because the team's management are intentionally over-charging for tickets and acting abusive to the average fan. Then you start selling fewer jerseys. Then your broadcast rights start to decline in value. Then the team is less "cool" than it was before and the season ticket sales start to decline. Then the team makes *less* money than when they charged lower rates for their tickets.
Professional sports teams realize that there is a fine balancing act here. They charge "what the market will bear", to be sure. It's just that they realize that their market includes more than just the bums in the seats, and for more than just this season.
researching the device (and the chipset the device uses) before purchase.
This is always good advice. But, to be in somewhat of an agreement with the GP, even this may not help you.
I remember buying my first Linksys PCI Wirless-B card, which I had checked online as being compatible with Linux. Turns out Linksys decided to re-do the card with a different chipset that was unsupported (Broadcom, I believe), but did NOT change the card's model number, only its "revision" number. The outside packaging gave no indication of the change. The only way to tell which revision of the card you had was to physically examine the tiny writing on the PCB of the card. Not exactly a positive experience when buying hardware for Linux!
That said, however, the situation is better than it was. But it is still frustrating. There will always be more problems here, because there will always be hardware vendors that insist upon distributing only binary drivers. Hopefully, Linux "market share" will grow enough that these vendors will actually see the loss of sales enough that they may change their position on this.
I hold in my hand a copy of "Asterisk: The Future of Telephony (2nd edition)" by O'Reilly. Published last month, delivered a couple of weeks ago. The dollar was 0.95 to 0.96 at the time of publication.
The price printed on the back is $44.99US, $53.99CDN. Thats 83 cents on the dollar. How does that make sense?
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I was working in a couple of schools east of Toronto last year, where the local public school board has standardized PC's in the classrooms. They were P4 2GHz desktop machines running XP with 128MB of RAM! I still shake my head over the pointlessness of these machines: they would have been capable of being more than usable for many years to come, but everyone complained about how slow and noisy they were. Gee, maybe that's because they were swapping like crazy all the time?
... the peak electricity consumption is still typically in the summer.
Here in Ontario, the power utility (Ontario Hydro) never has issues with providing power in the coldest days of winter, because very few homes or businesses here are electrically heated. We get some pretty hot days in the summer, though, and we end up having to buy electricity from neighboring provinces and states to keep the A/C humming.
Because there are a lot of things in everyone's life (yours included, I'm betting) that you do want to hide! There are 3 metric assloads of facts about my life that are just plain no one else's business, even if the vast majority are perfectly legal and even more are, IMHO, perfectly ethical and moral.
Even if I am as perfect as Christ himself, and I am fully in the legal and constitutional right, I still don't want people to know stuff about me when they don't need to know stuff about me. One person's completely legal behaviour hasn't stopped other people from causing all sorts of grief, particularly if they hold some degree of power (such as a policeman, landlord, banker, boss, teacher, etc). Sure, you can fight to assert your rights against the abuse of said power. But it is a pain in the ass to have to go through the (long, expensive, stressful) process of defending your rights, especially when having your privacy protected in the first place would have avoided the whole mess in the first place.
As for the existence of your rights preventing a totalitarian regime: well, you're going to lose those rights unless the people are proactive in fighting to keep them. A population that will not (or cannot) prevent the removal of their rights will get a totalitarian government for their trouble.
Only because too many people, like yourself, are eager to allow others to pry into their personal lives without resistance. If most people were more willing to resist this attitude of intrusion into our personal lives, we wouldn't look guilty, and you would look weak.
And yet you give no mention about you doing anything about this situation yourself. What about now going forward? Are you going to be stuck again in 5 years, unable to open documents you created in 2003? More to the point about what you can do now, what about in 10 years, when you're unable to open the documents you will create in 2008? This is likely to be exactly what will happen unless you get off proprietary file formats now!
I'm sorry if I misunderstood you, but it sounds like you will continue using MS Office and will count on OpenOffice to be your "safety net". If not, I apologize. But I know that a lot of people will do precisely nothing differently from this time forward, even if they do get dinged by this SP3 problem. I have difficulty generating sympathy now, and I will have none at all for anybody in the future who will have this happen to them again.
Of course a BMW is a better car than a Hyundai, just as HD-DVD/Blu-ray are better than DVD. Most people don't care about that, either. They can't justify the benefits, given the increased cost. From 2006 sales figures, Hyundai sold 455,012 cars, while BMW sold 274,432. Seems more people, by your own example, agree with me.
Hmm... you may have touched upon why I don't care so much about the quality, as well. I grew up in rural northern Ontario. No digital satellites yet, only a few adventurous types purchased BUDs (big ugly dishes). My family had a grand total of four channels to choose from (until digital satellite came in the mid-90's). This was via two antennas on the roof: one for the two Canadian signals, one for the two American signals. In addition, we didn't even bother getting a colour TV until 1989!
To me, DVD is still way better quality than I think is necessary. My background probably explains why this is so.
Although there may be some that can't tell the difference in quality, I think a far larger proportion of people just don't care about the increase in quality (myself included). I've seen demos in stores. I've seen a Sony disc that tries to show the difference side-by-side on the same movie (splitting the screen of a scene to show the left side as DVD and the other as Blu-Ray). Yeah, it's way better, but I don't give a crap! I don't have the cash, or the desire, to upgrade my television. DVD is good enough for me, and will be for a long, long time. I do not have interest in paying one cent more for the better quality video.
Never mind how much more difficult it is to rip the content!
Then they should have put in a script that runs the first time the machine is loaded, offering to download and install Flash Player. Or, even better, pay the (I'm sure minimal) amount of money to Adobe to allow it to be pre-installed. Hell, they touted YouTube as a featured use of the computer: Flash is kind of necessary to visit YouTube! To leave a Linux neophyte to install a tar.gz from Adobe, or to let him find "flashplayer-nonfree" from the repositories, is a bit of failure here!
I'm generally in agreement with you: the reviewer's points weren't necessarily all motivated by PC Mag's dependence of MS advertising money. But don't let Everex off the hook for their poor handling of the Flash issue. This really is one of the things that will sour a user's experience right away with Linux.
Nice IBM Model-M keyboard, there. (First thing I noticed!)
Ummm... given that a CD / CD-R has a capacity of about 700MB, and that a standard CD can hold "one CD worth" in an uncompressed format, I'd wager that that you could fit rather more than "one CD worth of MP3's" onto a 1GB thumb drive! Probably more like 10 or 12 albums (of course, your bitrate may vary).
I already have: neither!
Now, of course, that could very well be because I have no extra money for a hi-def player, or HD movies, or the required HD television... but even if I did, I'd still be sitting out this upgrade cycle. Sure, HD is nice (really nice) looking, but not good enough to warrant upgrading all the equipment and titles unless the cost is trivial (and it isn't). Add to the fact that format-shifting DVD content is drop-dead easy (I hate handling the discs, and refuse to allow my young daughter to do so), and sticking with DVDs is an easy choice.
The sooner one HD format wins, the sooner that consumers will start adopting it, then the sooner the studios can start to phase out and ignore standard DVD as a format. However long that is (and I know it will be a long while), I want that extended as long as possible.
I think the main problem is that tasers are not being used only as an alternative to a gun. If police were to think "I will only use the taser in the circumstance that otherwise I would be firing my gun," then your point is valid. However, it seems that in many situations, police are using tasers as a way to simply make their job of arresting someone easier.
The videotape of the guy in Vancouver shows pretty clearly that he was not in the process of attacking the police when they tased him. I seriously doubt that the police would have shot him had they arrived without a taser in that circumstance. Without a taser, they probably would have tried to slowly convey to him their intent to arrest him (he didn't speak English), and if unsuccessful they would have had to tackle him and struggle to restrain him. Both processes would be lengthy, difficult, and stressful for the police. Instead, it appears that they took an easy shortcut and just tased him so they could get the cuffs on him quickly. The man paid for this with his life. Without a taser, I submit he would likely be alive today.
So you're right: a taser used as a substitute for a gun (when the use of a gun is warranted) is fine. Using a taser when use of a gun is not warranted is the problem!
Here is a very high profile case of someone who did, in fact, successfully renounce his Canadian citizenship.
Of course, if you look into Conrad's story, he wants it back now!
I half agree with you. The price of books should be from $2 to $10 (variable, depending on the volume of sales), with the more popular and older works definitely at the lower end of that scale. I'd also be willing to put up with non-insane DRM at that price.
But I would pay $400 for a well-engineered, well-built reader. A device that would be about the same dimensions as a smallish laptop, only really thin. A full-sized screen (about 12"). Designed to take a lot of punishment. Able to display ordinary PDFs properly. Software to vary the text size and to rotate the book from landscape to portrait instantly. A good user interface.
In short, a piece of hardware that is built to be usable (and profitable for its manufacturer) without being beholden to publishers for continued book sales going forward. If the hardware is tied to a book sales service, it will suck. If the hardware is unattached to the publishing industry, it may suck, but not necessarily so.
I disagree. An unsecured WAP (with SSID broadcast enabled) is actually advertising that it is open for use. If you ask for permission to connect, its DHCP server grants you permission to do so. Hey, the WAP's owner configured it that way, why should we second-guess intent? Hell, most people's laptops don't even ask their user: they just connect automatically to the strongest signal they can find. Who's responsible then?
To extend your car example,
An unsecured WAP is much like above car, except that the car has a sign on it stating that the car is available for anyone to drive, anytime they wish. True, you didn't pay, but permission is granted to take it anyway.
Why was the RCMP *ever* involved in investigating copyright violation? I always thought (at least here in Canada, where we don't yet have a "DMCA" law) that violation of copyright was a civil infraction. I also thought that the police limited their investigations to criminal infractions.
:-P
Of course, I could very well be totally wrong!
Any Canadian lawyers know of the legislation that our police were acting upon when they were involved?
It was the Disney Concert Hall you're thinking of.
Fine, I failed to point out that the southernmost point in Ontario is also the southernmost point in Canada. My bad. What I wanted to say is that there is a heck of a distance between 42 degrees and 45.5 degrees latitude. About 240 miles, if I'm not mistaken.
The entirety of southern Ontario is roughly at or below 45.5 degrees. Quebec below Montreal. A good chunk of New Brunswick. Heck, right in Nova Scotia they could go to Yarmouth and be under 44 degrees (at least 100 miles further south).
I doubt that the location for this base was selected primarily for its latitude. If it was, a quick glance at a grade-school atlas would show that to be a rather odd choice.
Southernmost part of Cape Breton is at approximately 45.5 degrees north latitute.
Southernmost part of Ontario is at approximately 42 degrees north latitude.
There are *lots* of places further south in Canada than Cape Breton!
Same as parent: I have been logged in for days, no IMAP. Logged out, logged back in, IMAP!
While this is technically correct in the short term, professional sports teams know that there is a long-term issue with doing this: erosion of good-will between the team and the majority (middle-class) of fans. Which would kill off all interest eventually.
If tickets were sold the way you suggest, many people (including season-ticket holders) would not be able to afford them at their face value. Only the wealthy could purchase them beforehand. You're asking that fans must arrive at the stadium before a game and *hope* that reasonably-priced tickets become available for the quantity you want to get. Sorry, but most people don't operate that way. Most people want to have their seats guaranteed before going out their front door. The people who buy from scalpers today (arriving without knowing if they'll get in or not) are a small minority. You'll end up no middle class at all at the games: the only people who will get the last minute tickets will be the dregs who have nothing else to do.
If you alienate the middle-class fan from your sports team, they will stop caring about it. Fans who know that they'll never get a chance to see their team live start to lose interest. This effect is only magnified when everyone knows that the reason is because the team's management are intentionally over-charging for tickets and acting abusive to the average fan. Then you start selling fewer jerseys. Then your broadcast rights start to decline in value. Then the team is less "cool" than it was before and the season ticket sales start to decline. Then the team makes *less* money than when they charged lower rates for their tickets.
Professional sports teams realize that there is a fine balancing act here. They charge "what the market will bear", to be sure. It's just that they realize that their market includes more than just the bums in the seats, and for more than just this season.
This is always good advice. But, to be in somewhat of an agreement with the GP, even this may not help you.
I remember buying my first Linksys PCI Wirless-B card, which I had checked online as being compatible with Linux. Turns out Linksys decided to re-do the card with a different chipset that was unsupported (Broadcom, I believe), but did NOT change the card's model number, only its "revision" number. The outside packaging gave no indication of the change. The only way to tell which revision of the card you had was to physically examine the tiny writing on the PCB of the card. Not exactly a positive experience when buying hardware for Linux!
That said, however, the situation is better than it was. But it is still frustrating. There will always be more problems here, because there will always be hardware vendors that insist upon distributing only binary drivers. Hopefully, Linux "market share" will grow enough that these vendors will actually see the loss of sales enough that they may change their position on this.
Here's a brief note from 2002...
I feel absolutely qualified in answering your question...
"Very."
You're welcome!
I hold in my hand a copy of "Asterisk: The Future of Telephony (2nd edition)" by O'Reilly. Published last month, delivered a couple of weeks ago. The dollar was 0.95 to 0.96 at the time of publication.
The price printed on the back is $44.99US, $53.99CDN. Thats 83 cents on the dollar. How does that make sense?