I'm a Canadian. All of our elections here have a very simple looking piece of paper. There is usually something like a big black rectangle, with the person's name and political affiliation in white. With their name in white is a white circle. If you want to vote for that person, you make an 'X' in the circle.
Each voting district has volenteers that tally up the votes and then report. The ballots are kept in locked boxes. There is a set ratio for number of ballots/people doing tallying to insure there is a prompt, fast result. In other words, it scales.
This works for a nation of approximately 30 million people, and the results come in just about as fast as they do in in the US. Surely this isn't that complicated a problem; in fact, it seems very suspicious that all this fuss is being made over something that is so trivially solved. You don't NEED a computer to do the tallying; it's just not that difficult to do.
If there's a problem, well, the ballots are right there, all those X's waiting to be recounted.
Autocad is no longer the gorilla it used to be. Solidworks is eating their lunch, at least from what I have seen, although it is unfortunate neither one of them has embraced OSX so I can justify one of those pretty machines.
A solid modelling open source program of comparable quality would make real difference to small manufacturing companies. I am suprised nothing like this has appeared already, actually.
I am an EE as well, and I don't consider any falsifiable hypothesis "quackery", just very improbable until tested by an experiment. I find it very amusing that more scientists have a very closed mind.. isn't the whole idea to question everything?
Anyway, the above book covers a lot of studies headed up real scientists, and there is a lot of interesting data out there; the effects they find are not huge, but they are statistically signifigant and worthy of investigation.
If someone has an odd idea, fine - ask them for a repeatable experiment anyone can do to replicate said hypothesis. That's what science is about, and that's why we don't automatically assume the world is flat and we are the center of the universe anymore.
I hate having stuff in my pockets. It seems to be a function of age, but I really loathe having my pants and jacket looking weighed down. I want to have my jacket modified so it has some combat-style webbing hidden in it; this is how you can carry a lot of things without weighing down the coat itself. That stops you and the coat from looking stupid. The tailoring might run you a few dollars though.
However, long time ago I realized the best solution is to trust in the almighty batbelt. The trick is just to keep the batman factor as low as possible. A nice coat will cover everything. I have a backpack for the rest.
Barring extreme global catasrophe of the world-ending variety, e.g. comet, asteroid impact of a huge magnitude, possibly a huge thermonuclear exhange (maybe), Sun going Nova - nothing, repeat nada, is going to eliminate every human from the face of the planet. It's not going to happen.
What will happen is civilization -as we know it- would end. Billions of people might die, maybe. Countries as we know them may end. But homo sapiens is not going anywhere.
There is enough energy on this planet from nuclear and non-nuclear sources (coal) to sustain humans for a very, very, very long time. A limited population centrally managed, a long damn time. It is quite easy to generate shelter, food, oxygen and clean water on earth provided you have a reasonable technological infrastructure and most importantly an abundant energy source and knowledge. Unlike prior times, engineering and scientific knowledge is extremely widespread in the world.
Would it suck to live in such a world? Likely.
It is quiet possible the natural course of events on this planet is the destruction of the ecosystem. Man is a part of nature; we are not aliens thrust upon the planet. There are many very serious challenges facing mankind in the near future and all of them have to do with one thing, and one thing only: ENERGY.
One thing I can guarantee you though, until that comet from the sky comes - and maybe even after - there will be a bunch of naked apes - somewhere - living nearby available energy.
Worry more about funding research into real clean sources of energy - highly efficient solar panels, fusion reactions, even the potential to extract energy directly from the vaccum of space itself. Once you have enough clean energy, we can make every other problem go away. If you do not believe such a source of energy is possible, then we are headed for global catastrophe of another kind anyway.
I would be very interested in doing this (in the near future) but can someone confirm that this will work without any hassles in Linux? I tried doing a setup a long time ago with external drives and ran into all sorts of problems.
The issues were related to the external controller itself and not linux, but would like to find this out before I went down the road again.
Industrial market is already well served by ARM (Xscale et al.), PPC, Pentium M, Geode, VIA, and many others. All are well supported, fast, and low power.
We looked at transmeta as a platform in-house for a product, but there don't seem to be enough (any?) advantages to the product to justify the additional cost or technical risk over a more traditional and proven processor line.
I'm not sure what transmeta's strategy is go-forward, but they need to come up with something. Seen many transmeta powered PDAs out there? Cell phones?
You can get very good results if you engineer your own system - at least as good, if not better, than the commercial alternatives. To make it safe and reliable, use good quality hoses and fuel injection hose clamps designed not to pinch the line and are very, very secure. The other thing is to use a GFCI so you don't electrocute yourself if disaster does strike. If you use a ups, make sure to insert the GFCI -after- the UPS.
I got rid of it after I upgraded to a athlon, but the noise is getting back to bother me and I'll be installing it on my system again very shortly. Make sure to mount the radiator externally if you can, that was one problem my installation suffered from.
Say you're from Canada if you get into a sticky situation. Most anti-Americanism is directed at the government, but alot is not. It may sound funny, but seriously, and especially if you drink (alcohol+antiAmericanism=not good), you can diffuse a potentially explosive situation if you say you're from Canada. Eh?
I'm a Canadian. Please don't do this.
What does it say about your great and proud country that you might feel the need to LIE about being one of it's citizens?
The rush to higher density CCD's is insane.. but it's an easy number people seem to be able to understand. The optical lenses used are often much more important once you go beyond a certain threshold, e.g. 3-4MP. What's next, a 8MP camera phone? Why?
Camera phones have a limited ability to hold focusing and zoom lenses, and the sooner people understand this the better.
IIRC, it's been awhile - they had the pdf's of the books right there for you to buy on the spot. That would be a real revolution, much more so than an offer to buy the dead tree edition. Presto, I can get information in a few seconds that is of high quality.
Google may have enough cash just to -buy- a major book publisher and move forward with this idea.
If you idle on any large network - and I'd gather PTP would apply here, but my experience is limited to IRC - your box will be hacked or hacking attempts will be made. I have had linux exploited and had the honor of having a previous version of OpenBSD rooted dispite being reasonably locked down, got me via the SSH bug. Since been upgraded and patched, but I don't like doing that frequently - hence OpenBSD.
The attack and compromise was almost immediately noticed via the display I have on my firewall and logging software. I'd say I get automated hacks from once a day to several, and I get what appears to be an more intelligent automated attack or targetted exploit once a week.
Were this a router + windows combination, I doubt it would have been noticed for some time.
My point is no matter how good your patching regimen, you still need to be aware. I run firefox and have never had a web-related problem or virus.
Crypto, at least in this country - is perfectly legal, and has a decent legal basis for being legal.
Something like this will provoke widespread adoption of cryptographic measures, and don't forget, the world doesn't stop at the US border. Worldwide adoption puts pressure on to support and that starts a positive feedback loop.
Yes, governments will then start to clamour for backdoors - and then we can have a much more heated debate about what we want the western world to look like in 50 years.
I suspect the truth is that nobody cares (you're not a TERRORIST, are you!), with voter turnouts the way they are - things are headed in a very unfortunate direction. It's depressing to see the same tactics, used over and over through history to change the balance of power between a citizenry and it's government.
"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate, and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Ceasar."
It's a shame that this can't be attributed to "the" Ceasar, but you'd be hard pressed to find a more fitting quote to stirr debate.
Freedom is not safe. Tyranny isn't safe either. What would you rather?
I'll assume you already have a low-end PC for use "Free", e.g. already paid for and with a market value near zero.
I will also assume you can configure it to spin down the HD and turn off the monitor. We'll say this is around ~30W; it's actually much less if your processor is idle. My via c3 backup server consumes about 14W, the firewall a little more, an older 486 at around 20W.
Let's stick with 30W. To be a fair comparison, it needs to run a wireless card. That's not a major addition to power, but we'll account for it.
30W is 0.003 kW, so per day, this device costs 0.72kWh x $0.15/kWh = $0.108/day. Per year electricity cost would be roughly $40.
An access point costs about $150 in my parts; I'll say you can get it for $100 for the sake of arguement though.
At 12W, using the above calculations again, this access point takes 40% of the power. Or, a yearly power bill of about $16. The difference in the power bills is $24.
So it would take about 4 years to catch up, assuming the access point doesn't die. I have enough spare parts and obsolete hardware to run a firewall indefinately for no extra expense. The PC based firewall can do a lot more stuff too - much more configurable, patchable, can run other servers, etc etc. I run OpenBSD on mine and find it more than adequate. Plus, unlike every access point I've seen in the $100 range, my ages-old USR modem I bought 10 years ago sits there doing it's job shuffling bits around. No DSL in these parts.
At best I'd consider it a draw. You add a little polution, but can save that firewall computer from ending up as toxic waste, too.
Myself, I run an access point and a firewall. I don't like trusting one device to do everything, and I know the firewall is very hard to beat.
Please, start making nice calculators again. Designed by people who actually USE calculators every day, with nice keys, you know, the HP signature. The standard by which everything is judged. Hell, RPN might have been the original "think different".
Once upon a time they made some of the best test gear in the world.. now they sell rebranded Apple hardware and third-rate PC's.
Way to go. I wonder what Hewlett and Packard would think of this. (Irony being, of course, the HP story, in context of your post).
The grid is fine for powering electrical gadgets, although I want to get a 100W solar panel for my notebook and aquarium. However, heating is another thing.. right now we heat with wood, but it's labour-intensive.
I want to move the house to a wind-powered heating solution.. I live in rural area so neighbours aren't a problem. I am usually very skeptical of alternative energy claims, but wind is attractive enough for me to invest a little money in a test. Rather than convert the power, to store the heat I am using a 1000gallon tank in my basement. I'm looking to get between 10 and 20kW of power from my windmills on a nominal basis. I may also do tests with solar collectors, but they would provide energy gains only about ~4h per day in this part of the world.
Wind is a primary motivator in how fast my house loses heat, but the windier it gets, the more power is produced.
Heat distribution will be through in floor hydronic heating distribution. It won't replace the wood, but I bet it can reduce the amount of energy used by a LARGE factor, and provide me with nearly unlimited hot water.
Maybe an hour if you count opening the boxes. More to configure the OS, but I -always- do a fresh install of the OS as I'm sure most other people do to. That's not a lot of additional overhead - I get to cherry pick the best components I want out of the bunch, I know I'm not getting a crap case or power supply, and I know that everything was put together properly.
I'd argue that it's even faster than digging through third party sites to figure out what's the best buy, what options are available, etc etc etc. I know what I want (hd type, motherboard and video card brand, etc), I order and I'm done.
As far as warranty hassles go, I haven't had a computer failure in a long, long time. Maybe because I assemble my own gear, using proper grounding straps, with quality components, the first time?
So I'd argue it's probably a draw if you're proficient at PC building. That "100 bucks" gets used up fast when a crappy motherboard fails, or an application starts crashing because of mystery ram, or the +12 line sags a bit too much under heavy load, or or or or..
The only glaring exception to this is my powerbook. Notebooks are a little different.. but maybe I'm full of --..:-)
I thought LCD technology was being replaced by DLP? Is this not the case?
The problem isn't the technology but the investment; we're not talking small dollars to make plants to produce LCD panels, we're talking hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars invested by the electronics industry.
LCDs are going to be around for a long while; it'll be nice when the response rates come down and larger panels get cheaper.
Didn't Bush just promise thousands of new jobs for the American working class if he were re-elected? How can he promise this while his administration is supporting the outsourcing of jobs to other countries?
I'm sure he did promise jobs.. what the government here does is promise jobs too. Except the jobs that ended were high paying middle class jobs, and the jobs that are arriving are $8-12/hr callcenter positions.
Now, I don't know about you, but I don't know too many little kids that go around saying they want to work in a callcenter when they grow up. Erosion of the middle class isn't a good thing.
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I'm a Canadian. All of our elections here have a very simple looking piece of paper. There is usually something like a big black rectangle, with the person's name and political affiliation in white. With their name in white is a white circle. If you want to vote for that person, you make an 'X' in the circle.
Each voting district has volenteers that tally up the votes and then report. The ballots are kept in locked boxes. There is a set ratio for number of ballots/people doing tallying to insure there is a prompt, fast result. In other words, it scales.
This works for a nation of approximately 30 million people, and the results come in just about as fast as they do in in the US. Surely this isn't that complicated a problem; in fact, it seems very suspicious that all this fuss is being made over something that is so trivially solved. You don't NEED a computer to do the tallying; it's just not that difficult to do.
If there's a problem, well, the ballots are right there, all those X's waiting to be recounted.
Autocad is no longer the gorilla it used to be. Solidworks is eating their lunch, at least from what I have seen, although it is unfortunate neither one of them has embraced OSX so I can justify one of those pretty machines.
A solid modelling open source program of comparable quality would make real difference to small manufacturing companies. I am suprised nothing like this has appeared already, actually.
I am an EE as well, and I don't consider any falsifiable hypothesis "quackery", just very improbable until tested by an experiment. I find it very amusing that more scientists have a very closed mind .. isn't the whole idea to question everything?
Anyway, the above book covers a lot of studies headed up real scientists, and there is a lot of interesting data out there; the effects they find are not huge, but they are statistically signifigant and worthy of investigation.
If someone has an odd idea, fine - ask them for a repeatable experiment anyone can do to replicate said hypothesis. That's what science is about, and that's why we don't automatically assume the world is flat and we are the center of the universe anymore.
I hate having stuff in my pockets. It seems to be a function of age, but I really loathe having my pants and jacket looking weighed down. I want to have my jacket modified so it has some combat-style webbing hidden in it; this is how you can carry a lot of things without weighing down the coat itself. That stops you and the coat from looking stupid. The tailoring might run you a few dollars though.
However, long time ago I realized the best solution is to trust in the almighty batbelt. The trick is just to keep the batman factor as low as possible. A nice coat will cover everything. I have a backpack for the rest.
I for one would like to preserve the human race.
Ok; enough with the humans and mammals dealie.
Barring extreme global catasrophe of the world-ending variety, e.g. comet, asteroid impact of a huge magnitude, possibly a huge thermonuclear exhange (maybe), Sun going Nova - nothing, repeat nada, is going to eliminate every human from the face of the planet. It's not going to happen.
What will happen is civilization -as we know it- would end. Billions of people might die, maybe. Countries as we know them may end. But homo sapiens is not going anywhere.
There is enough energy on this planet from nuclear and non-nuclear sources (coal) to sustain humans for a very, very, very long time. A limited population centrally managed, a long damn time. It is quite easy to generate shelter, food, oxygen and clean water on earth provided you have a reasonable technological infrastructure and most importantly an abundant energy source and knowledge. Unlike prior times, engineering and scientific knowledge is extremely widespread in the world.
Would it suck to live in such a world? Likely.
It is quiet possible the natural course of events on this planet is the destruction of the ecosystem. Man is a part of nature; we are not aliens thrust upon the planet. There are many very serious challenges facing mankind in the near future and all of them have to do with one thing, and one thing only: ENERGY.
One thing I can guarantee you though, until that comet from the sky comes - and maybe even after - there will be a bunch of naked apes - somewhere - living nearby available energy.
Worry more about funding research into real clean sources of energy - highly efficient solar panels, fusion reactions, even the potential to extract energy directly from the vaccum of space itself. Once you have enough clean energy, we can make every other problem go away. If you do not believe such a source of energy is possible, then we are headed for global catastrophe of another kind anyway.
Period.
I would be very interested in doing this (in the near future) but can someone confirm that this will work without any hassles in Linux? I tried doing a setup a long time ago with external drives and ran into all sorts of problems.
The issues were related to the external controller itself and not linux, but would like to find this out before I went down the road again.
Older systems are better.. but even @ 75W - I believe 50W is a more accurate estimate:
75W = 0.075kW
0.075kW x 24h x 365 = 657kWh/year
657 x $0.07kWh = $46 per year. 0.07kWh is a little bit high, but I am unsure about US rates for electricity.
Given a nice secure OpenBSD router has a lot of advantages over the flavour of the month from Linksys.. I don't think it's that bad an option.
Industrial market is already well served by ARM (Xscale et al.), PPC, Pentium M, Geode, VIA, and many others. All are well supported, fast, and low power.
We looked at transmeta as a platform in-house for a product, but there don't seem to be enough (any?) advantages to the product to justify the additional cost or technical risk over a more traditional and proven processor line.
I'm not sure what transmeta's strategy is go-forward, but they need to come up with something. Seen many transmeta powered PDAs out there? Cell phones?
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You can get very good results if you engineer your own system - at least as good, if not better, than the commercial alternatives. To make it safe and reliable, use good quality hoses and fuel injection hose clamps designed not to pinch the line and are very, very secure. The other thing is to use a GFCI so you don't electrocute yourself if disaster does strike. If you use a ups, make sure to insert the GFCI -after- the UPS.
I got rid of it after I upgraded to a athlon, but the noise is getting back to bother me and I'll be installing it on my system again very shortly.
Make sure to mount the radiator externally if you can, that was one problem my installation suffered from.
Say you're from Canada if you get into a sticky situation. Most anti-Americanism is directed at the government, but alot is not. It may sound funny, but seriously, and especially if you drink (alcohol+antiAmericanism=not good), you can diffuse a potentially explosive situation if you say you're from Canada. Eh?
I'm a Canadian. Please don't do this.
What does it say about your great and proud country that you might feel the need to LIE about being one of it's citizens?
*sigh*
The rush to higher density CCD's is insane.. but it's an easy number people seem to be able to understand. The optical lenses used are often much more important once you go beyond a certain threshold, e.g. 3-4MP. What's next, a 8MP camera phone? Why?
Camera phones have a limited ability to hold focusing and zoom lenses, and the sooner people understand this the better.
IIRC, it's been awhile - they had the pdf's of the books right there for you to buy on the spot. That would be a real revolution, much more so than an offer to buy the dead tree edition. Presto, I can get information in a few seconds that is of high quality.
Google may have enough cash just to -buy- a major book publisher and move forward with this idea.
Works for 747s and most modern aircraft..
If you idle on any large network - and I'd gather PTP would apply here, but my experience is limited to IRC - your box will be hacked or hacking attempts will be made. I have had linux exploited and had the honor of having a previous version of OpenBSD rooted dispite being reasonably locked down, got me via the SSH bug. Since been upgraded and patched, but I don't like doing that frequently - hence OpenBSD.
The attack and compromise was almost immediately noticed via the display I have on my firewall and logging software. I'd say I get automated hacks from once a day to several, and I get what appears to be an more intelligent automated attack or targetted exploit once a week.
Were this a router + windows combination, I doubt it would have been noticed for some time.
My point is no matter how good your patching regimen, you still need to be aware. I run firefox and have never had a web-related problem or virus.
If Yellowstone blows, you should be studying theology, not geology. :-)
Crypto, at least in this country - is perfectly legal, and has a decent legal basis for being legal.
Something like this will provoke widespread adoption of cryptographic measures, and don't forget, the world doesn't stop at the US border. Worldwide adoption puts pressure on to support and that starts a positive feedback loop.
Yes, governments will then start to clamour for backdoors - and then we can have a much more heated debate about what we want the western world to look like in 50 years.
I suspect the truth is that nobody cares (you're not a TERRORIST, are you!), with voter turnouts the way they are - things are headed in a very unfortunate direction. It's depressing to see the same tactics, used over and over through history to change the balance of power between a citizenry and it's government.
"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate, and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Ceasar."
It's a shame that this can't be attributed to "the" Ceasar, but you'd be hard pressed to find a more fitting quote to stirr debate.
Freedom is not safe. Tyranny isn't safe either. What would you rather?
Let us assume electricity costs $0.15 per kWh.
I'll assume you already have a low-end PC for use "Free", e.g. already paid for and with a market value near zero.
I will also assume you can configure it to spin down the HD and turn off the monitor. We'll say this is around ~30W; it's actually much less if your processor is idle. My via c3 backup server consumes about 14W, the firewall a little more, an older 486 at around 20W.
Let's stick with 30W. To be a fair comparison, it needs to run a wireless card. That's not a major addition to power, but we'll account for it.
30W is 0.003 kW, so per day, this device costs 0.72kWh x $0.15/kWh = $0.108/day. Per year electricity cost would be roughly $40.
An access point costs about $150 in my parts; I'll say you can get it for $100 for the sake of arguement though.
At 12W, using the above calculations again, this access point takes 40% of the power. Or, a yearly power bill of about $16. The difference in the power bills is $24.
So it would take about 4 years to catch up, assuming the access point doesn't die. I have enough spare parts and obsolete hardware to run a firewall indefinately for no extra expense. The PC based firewall can do a lot more stuff too - much more configurable, patchable, can run other servers, etc etc. I run OpenBSD on mine and find it more than adequate. Plus, unlike every access point I've seen in the $100 range, my ages-old USR modem I bought 10 years ago sits there doing it's job shuffling bits around. No DSL in these parts.
At best I'd consider it a draw. You add a little polution, but can save that firewall computer from ending up as toxic waste, too.
Myself, I run an access point and a firewall. I don't like trusting one device to do everything, and I know the firewall is very hard to beat.
Please, start making nice calculators again. Designed by people who actually USE calculators every day, with nice keys, you know, the HP signature. The standard by which everything is judged. Hell, RPN might have been the original "think different".
Once upon a time they made some of the best test gear in the world.. now they sell rebranded Apple hardware and third-rate PC's.
Way to go. I wonder what Hewlett and Packard would think of this. (Irony being, of course, the HP story, in context of your post).
Though I have a feeling a lot of people will cling to the GBA-SP's svelte form-factor for as long as possible.
:)
Considering the last gameboy I owned was the original battery sucking Z80 monster, I would guess you're correct. The form factor is very attractive.
Is this device a successor to the GBA SP? I like the form factor (and price) of the SP a lot more (in fact I'm buying one very shortly).
The grid is fine for powering electrical gadgets, although I want to get a 100W solar panel for my notebook and aquarium. However, heating is another thing.. right now we heat with wood, but it's labour-intensive.
I want to move the house to a wind-powered heating solution.. I live in rural area so neighbours aren't a problem. I am usually very skeptical of alternative energy claims, but wind is attractive enough for me to invest a little money in a test. Rather than convert the power, to store the heat I am using a 1000gallon tank in my basement. I'm looking to get between 10 and 20kW of power from my windmills on a nominal basis. I may also do tests with solar collectors, but they would provide energy gains only about ~4h per day in this part of the world.
Wind is a primary motivator in how fast my house loses heat, but the windier it gets, the more power is produced.
Heat distribution will be through in floor hydronic heating distribution. It won't replace the wood, but I bet it can reduce the amount of energy used by a LARGE factor, and provide me with nearly unlimited hot water.
Solar cells aren't much good if you use more energy to make them than they produce.
Maybe an hour if you count opening the boxes. More to configure the OS, but I -always- do a fresh install of the OS as I'm sure most other people do to. That's not a lot of additional overhead - I get to cherry pick the best components I want out of the bunch, I know I'm not getting a crap case or power supply, and I know that everything was put together properly.
:-)
I'd argue that it's even faster than digging through third party sites to figure out what's the best buy, what options are available, etc etc etc. I know what I want (hd type, motherboard and video card brand, etc), I order and I'm done.
As far as warranty hassles go, I haven't had a computer failure in a long, long time. Maybe because I assemble my own gear, using proper grounding straps, with quality components, the first time?
So I'd argue it's probably a draw if you're proficient at PC building. That "100 bucks" gets used up fast when a crappy motherboard fails, or an application starts crashing because of mystery ram, or the +12 line sags a bit too much under heavy load, or or or or..
The only glaring exception to this is my powerbook. Notebooks are a little different.. but maybe I'm full of --..
I thought LCD technology was being replaced by DLP? Is this not the case?
The problem isn't the technology but the investment; we're not talking small dollars to make plants to produce LCD panels, we're talking hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars invested by the electronics industry.
LCDs are going to be around for a long while; it'll be nice when the response rates come down and larger panels get cheaper.
Didn't Bush just promise thousands of new jobs for the American working class if he were re-elected? How can he promise this while his administration is supporting the outsourcing of jobs to other countries?
I'm sure he did promise jobs.. what the government here does is promise jobs too. Except the jobs that ended were high paying middle class jobs, and the jobs that are arriving are $8-12/hr callcenter positions.
Now, I don't know about you, but I don't know too many little kids that go around saying they want to work in a callcenter when they grow up. Erosion of the middle class isn't a good thing.