"physicians never be required to install anything on their computers"
Unless you have some deal with the manufacturers, presumably you have some IT department or person that sets up these boxes as they come in? How many machines are there? It takes only a few seconds to download and install Sun's Java VM. This can be done during setup, or just have somebody walk around doing it. Better yet, mount a remote share with it.
For once all the claims of being "hard to use" or "complicated" are actually justified - in an academic environment. Whereas your typical user might not care for the hassles of learning their system intimately, an academic environment is *exactly* where you want this to happen. I'd wager most kids [who already have a computer at home or use a computer somewhere] are pretty familiar with Windows already. Where's the learning? Expose them to something new, which is free, and in turn they can teach others and bring it to the next level.
Consumers will not buy a new product *just* for bug fixes, and neither do they call up and report bugs very often (for whatever reasons, either they can't identify it as a bug, or they think it is their fault, or they think MS doesn't care, whatever). Really, how many of you have actually called up MS to report any one of these bugs that you are constantly bitching about here? Would *you* buy a new version of a product just for bug fixes and no new features?
As long as users keep buying the stuff he'll keep making it...
"If they just stuck a seat on it everything would be different."
Huh? Then it would be just like those little go-carts that are provided for use by the elderly and disabled in supermarkets. Why would we want to buy, and drive, one of those? The point of standing is to occupy less space, while not looking like a lazy or disabled person.
I saw this recently on a tv show, paraphrased from memory:
Two people are on a date having dinner:
woman: so what do you do
man: I program HTML on a Unix for aerial control systems. woman [breathless]: wow that sounds so complicated man [demonstrating with hand]: Yes, I program a in very special language.
I can't remember where I saw that, but man, can't they take five minutes and find someone to construct a meaningful sentence? Where are my share of the honies?
PHP (or anything for that matter) in non-suexec/CGI mode will not be secure for multiple users until the Apache perchild MPM actually works and is officially supported by PHP. This sandboxing of users has long been necessary.
"This isn't about being best in the world, but about helping to keep freedom."
1) To some people it is mostly about better software.
"Why not?"
2) Because it is often not the best software. See #1.
"And what does this have to do with the argument?"
See #2.
For the record I am NOT one of those people who think the value of "open software" is SOLELY because it makes better software (the opposite can be easily demonstrated in myriad cases). *Because* of this fact, I am more in the "Free Software" camp.
But the point is that neither side can seem to acknowledge the legitimate philosophy of the other, or that people might have different *reasons* for having the same goal.
Neither maybe? CORBA is baroque and over-complicated, and likewise SOAP is bloated and overcomplicated. How about a nice little RPC like Java RMI or XML-RPC? I'm not aware of any other lightweight binary RPCs.
On the other hand, the United States is not in a declared state of war against anybody, so it is a bit tenuous to justify labelling arbitrary people the US does not like as "legitimate enemy target". If they were legitimate enemy targets I would expect that we should identify them and declare war and our stated intentions against them to get coverage under international law ("excersized in self defense"). Assassination does not sound very defensive...it sounds very offensive.
I'm a Java developer. I'm really looking forward to Mono and Parrot. Hopefully they will provide the Open Source community an alternative to the de-facto C language, which seems to be universally applied to everything as low level as kernels, to as high level as GUI interfaces, other than Java which many developers seem allergic to, and to be fair does have its share of drawbacks, being proprietary apprently being foremost.
Not to mention that many of the tool languages of the Open Source world are interpreted and each have to maintain their own interpreter implementation.
Yet another example of our inability to distinguish technological progress from social progress in general. It's, uh, new, and uh, technological, it MUST be better!!
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"physicians never be required to install anything on their computers"
Unless you have some deal with the manufacturers, presumably you have some IT department or person that sets up these boxes as they come in? How many machines are there? It takes only a few seconds to download and install Sun's Java VM. This can be done during setup, or just have somebody walk around doing it. Better yet, mount a remote share with it.
Was I the only one that was unable to parse this sentence until a few re-reads?
"Ok Mrs. Smith, if you would just connect the serial line I can grep your brain logs to see when you first paniced"
1) commoditize your hardware! (Intel/AMD x86 chips)
2) commoditize your software! (Linux, free software)
3) $$$!!!!
For once all the claims of being "hard to use" or "complicated" are actually justified - in an academic environment. Whereas your typical user might not care for the hassles of learning their system intimately, an academic environment is *exactly* where you want this to happen. I'd wager most kids [who already have a computer at home or use a computer somewhere] are pretty familiar with Windows already. Where's the learning? Expose them to something new, which is free, and in turn they can teach others and bring it to the next level.
Hundreds of years ago, science was sponsored by the church.
You Have Overclocked
You Lose
Have A Nice Day
The answer I think you are looking for is:
"No, the only kind"
We need a Schoolyard Missile Defense system NOW!
Consumers will not buy a new product *just* for bug fixes, and neither do they call up and report bugs very often (for whatever reasons, either they can't identify it as a bug, or they think it is their fault, or they think MS doesn't care, whatever). Really, how many of you have actually called up MS to report any one of these bugs that you are constantly bitching about here? Would *you* buy a new version of a product just for bug fixes and no new features?
As long as users keep buying the stuff he'll keep making it...
"If they just stuck a seat on it everything would be different."
Huh? Then it would be just like those little go-carts that are provided for use by the elderly and disabled in supermarkets. Why would we want to buy, and drive, one of those? The point of standing is to occupy less space, while not looking like a lazy or disabled person.
"in soviet russia, you drink pepsi"
No, that would be misleading advertising, because obviously:
In Soviet Russia, Pepsi drinks YOU!
So, consumer angst is the next trend! This is great, I'll just set up a Cafe Press store and sell t-shirts, mugs and mousepads:
"I was brainwashed into becoming a mindless consumer and all I got was this high quality Beefy-T (tm) shirt"
The product is you!
Two people are on a date having dinner:
I can't remember where I saw that, but man, can't they take five minutes and find someone to construct a meaningful sentence? Where are my share of the honies?
PHP (or anything for that matter) in non-suexec/CGI mode will not be secure for multiple users until the Apache perchild MPM actually works and is officially supported by PHP. This sandboxing of users has long been necessary.
"This isn't about being best in the world, but about helping to keep freedom."
1) To some people it is mostly about better software.
"Why not?"
2) Because it is often not the best software. See #1.
"And what does this have to do with the argument?"
See #2.
For the record I am NOT one of those people who think the value of "open software" is SOLELY because it makes better software (the opposite can be easily demonstrated in myriad cases). *Because* of this fact, I am more in the "Free Software" camp.
But the point is that neither side can seem to acknowledge the legitimate philosophy of the other, or that people might have different *reasons* for having the same goal.
Neither maybe? CORBA is baroque and over-complicated, and likewise SOAP is bloated and overcomplicated. How about a nice little RPC like Java RMI or XML-RPC? I'm not aware of any other lightweight binary RPCs.
"The operation was legal under U.S. law."
for reference
On the other hand, the United States is not in a declared state of war against anybody, so it is a bit tenuous to justify labelling arbitrary people the US does not like as "legitimate enemy target". If they were legitimate enemy targets I would expect that we should identify them and declare war and our stated intentions against them to get coverage under international law ("excersized in self defense"). Assassination does not sound very defensive...it sounds very offensive.
Anybody who is applying any patches from Microsoft will get .NET automatically, as I have recently found.
I'm a Java developer. I'm really looking forward to Mono and Parrot. Hopefully they will provide the Open Source community an alternative to the de-facto C language, which seems to be universally applied to everything as low level as kernels, to as high level as GUI interfaces, other than Java which many developers seem allergic to, and to be fair does have its share of drawbacks, being proprietary apprently being foremost.
Not to mention that many of the tool languages of the Open Source world are interpreted and each have to maintain their own interpreter implementation.
Yet another example of our inability to distinguish technological progress from social progress in general. It's, uh, new, and uh, technological, it MUST be better!!
Seems legal to these folks:
Ithaca Hours
"you deserve to die by choking on your own shit."
;)
Glad we are keeping things civilized here
You must be confused. You obviously haven't taken your coral calcium. I bet your DNA is all acidic and isn't replicating fast enough!
...Russia wants to avoid problems like this.
Quality assurance better not be the first time you realize that your software doesn't scale...