Tragically, I am forced into the disgrace of responding to my own post: "Two wrongs don't make a right.".
For the ironically-challenged, I found it somewhat funny/sad that in a thread nominally about stereotypes and the inappropriateness of judging people by their race, gender, et al, someone would refer to the wrongdoers specifically by their *race and gender*.
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(note to the angry responders: sorry, I have little time for the 'professionally offended', who assume the worst and then get all hot and bothered over their own error)
"For the bazillionth time, Google is not "sharing all your data in the world".
Technically, I think you are correct. What they are doing is collecting every possible bit of information about you in order to better sell you to advertisers.
Yes, I caught it after I posted. I blame it on the caffeine, and one can't edit.
Sorry you missed a perfect opportunity to reply to my humorous post with one of your own. I think something along the lines of "Of course I didn't read the actual article - do you think I'm crazy?" would have been a good choice. But perhaps only someone with a 5-digit ID would have seen that...
Occasionally, we must peek out of the box we live in and realize that not everyone lives the same life that we do.
To most people on the planet, if told they should know how to install and configuration operating systems, web servers, et al, would look at you as if you told them they needed to know how to build a car. They would think you were nuts. And they'd be right.
Another reply to your post mentioned that tablets are no way to teach about computers. "Hello, Reality calling..." - that's not what they are trying to teach. There *are* other subjects.
Computers are tools. In the same way that it is good that someone knows how to build a hammer, it is good that some people know how to make a computer work. But there is so much more that one can build with a hammer than just more hammers.
If you think that the Modem M was the greatest keyboard ever made, then clearly you have never typed on the IBM 3278 keyboard from the late 70s / early 80s.
"Apple does that too, though on end-user machines. When connecting to wifi, it doesn't enable the connection until it first verifies you're really connected. It does that by trying to pull a specific known Apple URL."
I'm sorry, but there must be more to this than your description.
Just for jollies I unplugged my cable modem and fired up my Macbook. It connected to Wi-Fi and I was up and running on my local network same as always.
My firewall is whitelist-based. This means if a site uses stuff hosted off-site (jquery, googleapis) it probably isn't going to load. The net affect is that while I can browse such storefronts, I have to do work to buy from them. So I buy elsewhere. They might learn, eventually.
"Human brain has around ten-to-the-tenth neurons. By third year Mike had better than one and a half times that number of neuristors. And woke up." -- The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
Well, in partial defense of Massachusetts drivers, if people are passing you on the right - you're in the wrong lane. Can't argue with the rest of your observations though...:-)
So to boil it down, you object to someone having to download the 'advanced' version of the configuration utility in order to make 'advanced' changes to the configuration.
I wish the IPv6 problems of the world were all so simple.
Nice straw man. Nobody used those words except for you.
The Airport Extreme base station supports IPv6 (and DNS) out of the box*. As much as you might like to pretend otherwise, *configuring* such things *is* an advanced task for 99% of the users out there. People need elevators, not airplanes.
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* maybe not always configured the way you would like, but it's there. OS X and Apple devices (Airport, Apple TV, etc.) talk to each other via IPv6 by default.
Apple didn't back off on anything. The version of Airport Utility discussed is the pretty, dumbed-down version of the application intended for folks who just barely understand what a router is about. It matches the similar version deployed on iOS.
The "previous version" isn't. The feature-complete 5.6 was released at the same time as the simple version, and has the same support for IPv6 as it ever did.
"For example, Angry Birds makes more money from Android than iOS"
If you actually read that article, you'll discover that the headline is incorrect. The article states "In a few months, the 5 million downloads could prove more valuable than 5 million sales".
Tragically, I am forced into the disgrace of responding to my own post: "Two wrongs don't make a right.".
For the ironically-challenged, I found it somewhat funny/sad that in a thread nominally about stereotypes and the inappropriateness of judging people by their race, gender, et al, someone would refer to the wrongdoers specifically by their *race and gender*.
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(note to the angry responders: sorry, I have little time for the 'professionally offended', who assume the worst and then get all hot and bothered over their own error)
"A cavalcade of white dudes, of course."
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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"For the bazillionth time, Google is not "sharing all your data in the world".
Technically, I think you are correct. What they are doing is collecting every possible bit of information about you in order to better sell you to advertisers.
Somehow, that doesn't make folks feel any better.
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Ted Nelson's Computer Lib / Dream Machines (c) 1974 has a section on educational systems, including PLATO.
The tagline was "You can and must understand computers NOW". Challenge accepted.
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Yes, I caught it after I posted. I blame it on the caffeine, and one can't edit.
Sorry you missed a perfect opportunity to reply to my humorous post with one of your own. I think something along the lines of "Of course I didn't read the actual article - do you think I'm crazy?" would have been a good choice. But perhaps only someone with a 5-digit ID would have seen that...
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"I can't see any attack in TFS that required physical access."
You read the article? What the hell is wrong with you? /s
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"This is what should happen everywhere..."
Occasionally, we must peek out of the box we live in and realize that not everyone lives the same life that we do.
To most people on the planet, if told they should know how to install and configuration operating systems, web servers, et al, would look at you as if you told them they needed to know how to build a car. They would think you were nuts. And they'd be right.
Another reply to your post mentioned that tablets are no way to teach about computers. "Hello, Reality calling..." - that's not what they are trying to teach. There *are* other subjects.
Computers are tools. In the same way that it is good that someone knows how to build a hammer, it is good that some people know how to make a computer work. But there is so much more that one can build with a hammer than just more hammers.
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If you think that the Modem M was the greatest keyboard ever made, then clearly you have never typed on the IBM 3278 keyboard from the late 70s / early 80s.
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"Apple does that too, though on end-user machines. When connecting to wifi, it doesn't enable the connection until it first verifies you're really connected. It does that by trying to pull a specific known Apple URL."
I'm sorry, but there must be more to this than your description.
Just for jollies I unplugged my cable modem and fired up my Macbook. It connected to Wi-Fi and I was up and running on my local network same as always.
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My firewall is whitelist-based. This means if a site uses stuff hosted off-site (jquery, googleapis) it probably isn't going to load. The net affect is that while I can browse such storefronts, I have to do work to buy from them. So I buy elsewhere. They might learn, eventually.
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Apparently, all they have to do is stop trying to trademark the name (which is clearly derived from Twitter). That's it.
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"Human brain has around ten-to-the-tenth neurons. By third year Mike had better than one and a half times that number of neuristors. And woke up." -- The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
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You're not the 'efficient seller' if you lose money at it. You're just burning cash to decimate the field.
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Well, in partial defense of Massachusetts drivers, if people are passing you on the right - you're in the wrong lane. Can't argue with the rest of your observations though... :-)
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"That you are old."
I prefer to see it as a sign of intelligence.
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"A touchstone to determine the actual worth of an "intellectual", find out how he feels about astrology." Robert Heinlein.
"And apparently neither did any desktop Linux systems."
There are desktop Linux systems?
(ducks)
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So to boil it down, you object to someone having to download the 'advanced' version of the configuration utility in order to make 'advanced' changes to the configuration.
I wish the IPv6 problems of the world were all so simple.
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"advanced extra feature"
Nice straw man. Nobody used those words except for you.
The Airport Extreme base station supports IPv6 (and DNS) out of the box*. As much as you might like to pretend otherwise, *configuring* such things *is* an advanced task for 99% of the users out there. People need elevators, not airplanes.
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* maybe not always configured the way you would like, but it's there. OS X and Apple devices (Airport, Apple TV, etc.) talk to each other via IPv6 by default.
Apple didn't back off on anything. The version of Airport Utility discussed is the pretty, dumbed-down version of the application intended for folks who just barely understand what a router is about. It matches the similar version deployed on iOS.
The "previous version" isn't. The feature-complete 5.6 was released at the same time as the simple version, and has the same support for IPv6 as it ever did.
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"And while we're at it, would DuckDuckGo's "small following on Slashdot" please enter and sign in with a few posts?"
I use DuckDuckGo, either directly or with hacks that translate the web browsers default Google search into a DDG query.
My outbound proxy drops all connections to "http://*google*" on the floor.
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"For example, Angry Birds makes more money from Android than iOS"
If you actually read that article, you'll discover that the headline is incorrect. The article states "In a few months, the 5 million downloads could prove more valuable than 5 million sales".
"Could" is not a done deal.
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"That is the kind of reception that Apple wishes the iPad 3 would get (although it probably won't.)"
The delusional noise that comes out of certain dark corners of the universe never ceases to amaze me.
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"I thought I was a genius for doubling my money."
Sigh. Me too. Instead I have a PowerMac that effectively cost me a quarter of a million dollars.
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Anyone who has seen "Morte a Venezia" (1971) already knows about the ability of climate to spread disease.
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"I think we can safely assume any closed operating system is backdoored."
http://opensource.apple.com/
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