IBM's business agenda, though, doesn't include lavishing praise on a rival operating system. It prefers Linux and its own proprietary version of Unix, called AIX. Solaris now runs on x86 computers such as IBM's System x servers as well as on Sun's own Sparc-based computers. OpenSolaris is designed to appeal to developers, who have the power to sneak software into companies the same way Linux snuck in during the 1990s.
That's hard to do when you cut out hardware documentation for entire SPARC platform - sun4cdm and limited bits of sun4u. The thing that they'd have to do is figure out how the GXT2000/3000/4x00/6x00 cards work and get them to work right - and they'd have something that IBM has so far not even documented in Linux. Otherwise I'd rather stick with IBM until they do that deed.
"OpenSolaris isn't a true open-source project, but rather a "facade," because Sun Microsystems doesn't share control of it with outsiders, executives from rival IBM say. "Sun holds it all behind the firewall"
Dunno about the facade, but their control, but they sure do hold some good stuff behindthefirewall.
Yes, Sparcstations are "ancient hardware" - but at least IBM allowed machines as old as their POWER2 workstations and servers to have "Linux Affinity" on them for at least one release. That feature is as close as IBM may get to opening AIX itself directly (in a similar way as OpenSolaris), and is something that combines the best of both worlds for what you can do with their older hardware.
Why Sun seems to be adamant about keeping (outside of an ad hominem towards those who've objected - I saw that one bmc) sun4cdm and its hardware out of OpenSolaris (when their competition does well despite a longer hardware support cycle) speaks volumes of what they cant do.
Then take a flight to a country that has none of these pesky restrictions, namely France- then go to UK by train? I see France getting a spike in traffic thanks to this hoax for European travel.
People die in war. I don't care if it's women, children, whatever. Shit happens. People die. There's no way it's not going to happen, especially when civilians are pretty much used as a human shield, which is pretty despicable but seems to be more or less overlooked by most anti-israeli groups.
Then you see all the criticism against Israel, with little if any regards to legitimacy of complaint, be dismissed as an antisemitic hate crime on the order of real hate crimes. No "shield" there, right? When you can just say "hate criminal!" or "Anti-Semitic!", then stand behind US/Israeli Imported US weaponry, the US's UN ambassador, various European laws, and misguided people who dont mind Israel not being held accountable beyond Pollard; are those not shields of values equal or better than your "human shields" you attribute?
You might have had a valid point if not for what already exists to shield Israel from doing wrong.
They kinda took a nosedive by taking in, gutting, and selling off NCR a long time ago. It didnt help to lose the good parts of them that still existed afterwards (Lucent?).
Going to Defcon and/or pre-CMP Blackhat would put you on those kind of lists;). Heck, you could spiral a cable around a wireless antenna next to a laptop computer in the bag and expect to be inspected.
The only implication was that the source was tainted by its nature of being a echo chamber with voices that have proven known biases (right wing, pro-war, pro-Bush, pro-Israel via the ne****** author's reply) that appear frequently in every article, and by the articles they post. Just a matter of the bias not being declared, since the site was the kind that would jump on it instantly.
Without seeing the actual documents themselves, it is a very high chance that the documents were faked with a Courier typeface and given an artificial aging. Consider it a 99.99999% chance of that document being faked, and a 0.00001% chance of anything else - where it's proven completely to be a false document, and that any proof that it was not faked is going to have to at least survive the existing criticism. That's usually the best that can be done with only an authentic copy, and not the original.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/ Reconsider your source, since that site seems to be very closed minded enough that they wont accept criticism - try signing up there. Consider a source that *doesnt* seem to resemble an echo chamber.
saying that 4 years of undergraduate study leading to a journalism degree from Harvard University is a waste of time. The connections you get in that place of exclusivity are enough to guarantee that you'll never view the population the same way you did when you entered.
It is not a zero-sum game, it's about efficiency. The lowering of cost (whether through automation or outsourcing), in a competitive market, results in the consumer paying a lower price. This allows products to enter new markets and create new opportunities and jobs
Well, that's not how it is ending up. Given that the cost of education in (time and money) is increasing beyond the amount that can be paid, offshoring is being used primarily to replace high quality domestic workers with those who have low initial cost but higher costs in having the proper people do it afterwards to clean up.
You must be joking if the newer products out there have any resemblance to "quality" - Lenovo's machines are using less durable materials, Dell's laptops have models that explode, and HP's status gone down to a "ink revenue station" seller that's about to get the problems of NCR's Nyberg generation (Hurd) all over it.
Whatever opportunities I'm seeing, you seem to want to keep out of reach of displaced workers and those in states (read:the Rust Belt) have unfavorable economic situations. When you have merit blind, subsidized access(by redirection of existing subsidy) education, maybe I can see there being practical opportunity.
The way it's going, it is a zero-sum game in a good sized chunk of the non-offshored world.
Offshoring as it is done now is a large mistake in need of a complete overhaul.
You've also sealed the door shut save for a small crack by not making "escape-velocity" education readily availible (read: no admissions or financial barriers to citizens to any place of higher education == readily availible). Remove the ability to discriminate on admissions(this means no more "prestige" universities) and redirect existing subsidy towards education to fund admissions so that all who seek education concentrate on their studies, not necessarily if they'll make this quarter's exhorbitant tuition or have massive debt over their heads. While some may disagree on this, but merit-blind, minimal friction access to education will not devalue the degree - it will result in there being people that are able to get their studies done with a clearer mind.
We've also created entirely new fields of work, and we've made it possible for new industries to be created. Our technologies make things possible, making products and services possible, that could never be dreamt of without our help.
Can you quote some of these "created jobs", and the resulting job income(which is usually lower), along with how much education(and at what maximum cost in time and money) it would take to have any random displaced worker to make up for the inevitable drop in salary?
No thanks, but I'll take my pre-NAFTA Union built domestic, along with a (for the greater part) non-Asian built/supported machine (IBM RS/6000 7044-270), and work where offshoring is relegated to 2nd class status where it belongs.
If "globalization" is going to help any, I might as well book myself a place to be cryogenically preserved for the next 500 years, since that's about when the economy has recovered from such evil. These new industries help nothing when you put barriers in education (the only real way out).
Hell no. It's more like karmic justice delivered in an explosive package. Extreme would be repeatedly turning the whole subcontinent into glass 24/7/365.25, even after the jobs returned to the nations that lost them (you'd only have to level the primary job theft centres enough to discourage rebuilding, not level the nation for eternity).
The Geneva Convention? Does anyone still read that old thing? It's only read if there's something that can be used to a nation's benefit against the intended purpose - the Gitmo case being one of them.
Given that Israel cant aim worth a damn without hitting a civilian in the process(Urban warfare, do you know it?), I'd agree. To preempt the "human shield argument", there's a thing called "urban warfare". Throwing all the latest technology at someone and they cant figure out how to just pick out the intended target(s)? Well, it's what you get when you lob Hellfires and such at *individual people*- you're going to hit unintended targets.
Palestine does need this kind of thing, they might even get a couple of drones off it too.
Given that the major PC-in-a-box manufacturers and those who make the specific parts have removed quality out of their consideration of their products (IBM/Lenovo, Dell, HP, and to some extent, Apple) it should be no surprise why things are going this way in the US. Maybe those low quality parts and offshored support (IBM excluded when you can call and get Denver or Atlanta, or your home country if you arent from the US) might have to be retuned to quality parts(yes, at one time you could get Non-Asian made parts and have high quality in mass numbers) and localized (read: domestic!) support.
"Okay Bob, a nice gentle bank to the right... okay... now swing back to the left... ahh, now you got it. Keep doing that for a while."
Wait until the pilot "accidentally" banks deep into some restricted airspace (on one of the CEO's orders), and they ask who ordered it to later learn that Stanford privlege doesnt buy you out of jail.
Heck, if you have a $180k hammock in there, pay the pilot extra to fly *into* turbulence that isnt a microburst.
The only thing really overkill though would be them using it as a Vomit Comet. How do you explain that to the shareholders- giving them a good impression, and potential prospects to work for google an unforgettable interview?
It wouldn't surprise me if Brin and Page get a little miffed at this guy for discussing their private jet in public, though.
For what's being discussed, it'd be overreacting. It's not like they used blood money(y'know, jobs!) to buy it like Carly "Only my job is god given" Fiorina. Given that you have to be from a very exclusive college(and a mindset to match to seal yourself an offer) to work for Google, it's not like they had Carly's Problem though.
America could single-handedly destroy the economy of Nevada by outlawing gambling. They did a little disaster on the Midwest and the Rust Belt on the manufacturing industry, and even left it in a manner that recovery would require a universal open-door admissions/merit blind total funding policy to all universities. Look to Ohio/Michigan/Indiana/Pennsylvania and see what disaster you'd have if Nevada had to survive on corporations that tax evade but serve California.
If you don't like their customer service, don't buy their products. The market will decide whether good customer service is worth the extra cost.
BZZT! Wrong!
They have to first have perfect knowledge of said "market". Otherwise that line of argument starts to fall flat, with Dell and the other offshorers' record being proof. Otherwise it's a bit better to a) bite the bullet and go with IBM when you can (heck, you still can get your abysmally low quality laptop or desktop, and in the same gray too!) and b) push for a forcible correction that actually has teeth. They're abusing their rights as a corporate "person" and accepting little or no responsibility.
No thanks, I'll go with Atlanta, Georgia or Denver, Colorado instead of some country that has little more than a bunch of paper CMM-5's. It's also why I look for machines that are built with European and/or US parts as the majority by construction. A bit dated but otherwise valid as an example, the RS/6000 7044-270, damn heavy but worth it- metal from Europe, plastic/PC boards made in the US, and a minority of the chips made from The Currency Dumper. Heck, you could even have made it with 50% or more US parts by dropping out the European metal and replacing it with US based metal to demonstrate that such machines are viable.
I think corporations should be punished heavily when they try to get away with abusive practices to trim down the amount of users that get abused and also to be fair to the corporations who really do make an effort in being fair.
Ever since corporations had it easy since the Butcher and US counterpart Reagan, customers worldwide have been fucked over and out. Just that if you do such a measure, you would have to make it a measure that has no loopholes and contains penalties too expensive to pass on to the consumer. How's about a 75% penalty spread across worldwide assets, with priority towards (permanent) removal of assets in countries with no labor protection laws? Damn nice, and would even bitchslap GM (who tried to drop unions with a nullified contract).
You abuse your rights, you face the consequences. Consumers should be able to get quality that they paid to get (even at the $399 level Dell has to obey the law), and not have to depend on the slow wheels of a failed "market" to correct themselves.
Maybe you should look at who Hurd has worked for in the past and the legacy of his predecessor, Lars Nyberg. If you think Carly was bad, this guy may just bring the 1990's NCR disasters over to HP instead of bringing back the "HP Way". With the company gutted after Hurd and Nyberg, he's proven himself to have a worse reputation. He had a chance to prove himself different, but he failed in that respect up to this point.
He is not the "blue collar" person that you think he might be. He was one of those who helped destroy that part of NCR.
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IBM's business agenda, though, doesn't include lavishing praise on a rival operating system. It prefers Linux and its own proprietary version of Unix, called AIX. Solaris now runs on x86 computers such as IBM's System x servers as well as on Sun's own Sparc-based computers. OpenSolaris is designed to appeal to developers, who have the power to sneak software into companies the same way Linux snuck in during the 1990s.
That's hard to do when you cut out hardware documentation for entire SPARC platform - sun4cdm and limited bits of sun4u. The thing that they'd have to do is figure out how the GXT2000/3000/4x00/6x00 cards work and get them to work right - and they'd have something that IBM has so far not even documented in Linux. Otherwise I'd rather stick with IBM until they do that deed.
"OpenSolaris isn't a true open-source project, but rather a "facade," because Sun Microsystems doesn't share control of it with outsiders, executives from rival IBM say. "Sun holds it all behind the firewall"
Dunno about the facade, but their control, but they sure do hold some good stuff behind the firewall.
Yes, Sparcstations are "ancient hardware" - but at least IBM allowed machines as old as their POWER2 workstations and servers to have "Linux Affinity" on them for at least one release. That feature is as close as IBM may get to opening AIX itself directly (in a similar way as OpenSolaris), and is something that combines the best of both worlds for what you can do with their older hardware.
Why Sun seems to be adamant about keeping (outside of an ad hominem towards those who've objected - I saw that one bmc) sun4cdm and its hardware out of OpenSolaris (when their competition does well despite a longer hardware support cycle) speaks volumes of what they cant do.
Then take a flight to a country that has none of these pesky restrictions, namely France- then go to UK by train? I see France getting a spike in traffic thanks to this hoax for European travel.
People die in war. I don't care if it's women, children, whatever. Shit happens. People die. There's no way it's not going to happen, especially when civilians are pretty much used as a human shield, which is pretty despicable but seems to be more or less overlooked by most anti-israeli groups.
Then you see all the criticism against Israel, with little if any regards to legitimacy of complaint, be dismissed as an antisemitic hate crime on the order of real hate crimes. No "shield" there, right? When you can just say "hate criminal!" or "Anti-Semitic!", then stand behind US/Israeli Imported US weaponry, the US's UN ambassador, various European laws, and misguided people who dont mind Israel not being held accountable beyond Pollard; are those not shields of values equal or better than your "human shields" you attribute?
You might have had a valid point if not for what already exists to shield Israel from doing wrong.
They kinda took a nosedive by taking in, gutting, and selling off NCR a long time ago. It didnt help to lose the good parts of them that still existed afterwards (Lucent?).
Going to Defcon and/or pre-CMP Blackhat would put you on those kind of lists ;). Heck, you could spiral a cable around a wireless antenna next to a laptop computer in the bag and expect to be inspected.
The only implication was that the source was tainted by its nature of being a echo chamber with voices that have proven known biases (right wing, pro-war, pro-Bush, pro-Israel via the ne****** author's reply) that appear frequently in every article, and by the articles they post. Just a matter of the bias not being declared, since the site was the kind that would jump on it instantly.
Without seeing the actual documents themselves, it is a very high chance that the documents were faked with a Courier typeface and given an artificial aging. Consider it a 99.99999% chance of that document being faked, and a 0.00001% chance of anything else - where it's proven completely to be a false document, and that any proof that it was not faked is going to have to at least survive the existing criticism. That's usually the best that can be done with only an authentic copy, and not the original.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/
Reconsider your source, since that site seems to be very closed minded enough that they wont accept criticism - try signing up there. Consider a source that *doesnt* seem to resemble an echo chamber.
saying that 4 years of undergraduate study leading to a journalism degree from Harvard University is a waste of time.
The connections you get in that place of exclusivity are enough to guarantee that you'll never view the population the same way you did when you entered.
...and missing the ground completely (save for the vehicle itself).
Product Recall (of course, for some safety problem).
It is not a zero-sum game, it's about efficiency. The lowering of cost (whether through automation or outsourcing), in a competitive market, results in the consumer paying a lower price. This allows products to enter new markets and create new opportunities and jobs
Well, that's not how it is ending up. Given that the cost of education in (time and money) is increasing beyond the amount that can be paid, offshoring is being used primarily to replace high quality domestic workers with those who have low initial cost but higher costs in having the proper people do it afterwards to clean up.
You must be joking if the newer products out there have any resemblance to "quality" - Lenovo's machines are using less durable materials, Dell's laptops have models that explode, and HP's status gone down to a "ink revenue station" seller that's about to get the problems of NCR's Nyberg generation (Hurd) all over it.
Whatever opportunities I'm seeing, you seem to want to keep out of reach of displaced workers and those in states (read:the Rust Belt) have unfavorable economic situations. When you have merit blind, subsidized access(by redirection of existing subsidy) education, maybe I can see there being practical opportunity.
The way it's going, it is a zero-sum game in a good sized chunk of the non-offshored world.
Offshoring as it is done now is a large mistake in need of a complete overhaul.
Yeah, we've made a lot of jobs obsolete.
You've also sealed the door shut save for a small crack by not making "escape-velocity" education readily availible (read: no admissions or financial barriers to citizens to any place of higher education == readily availible). Remove the ability to discriminate on admissions(this means no more "prestige" universities) and redirect existing subsidy towards education to fund admissions so that all who seek education concentrate on their studies, not necessarily if they'll make this quarter's exhorbitant tuition or have massive debt over their heads. While some may disagree on this, but merit-blind, minimal friction access to education will not devalue the degree - it will result in there being people that are able to get their studies done with a clearer mind.
We've also created entirely new fields of work, and we've made it possible for new industries to be created. Our technologies make things possible, making products and services possible, that could never be dreamt of without our help.
Can you quote some of these "created jobs", and the resulting job income(which is usually lower), along with how much education(and at what maximum cost in time and money) it would take to have any random displaced worker to make up for the inevitable drop in salary?
No thanks, but I'll take my pre-NAFTA Union built domestic, along with a (for the greater part) non-Asian built/supported machine (IBM RS/6000 7044-270), and work where offshoring is relegated to 2nd class status where it belongs.
If "globalization" is going to help any, I might as well book myself a place to be cryogenically preserved for the next 500 years, since that's about when the economy has recovered from such evil. These new industries help nothing when you put barriers in education (the only real way out).
The simple fact is that we cannot find enough qualified people in Cleveland
It's not like you couldnt tap from some of the talented graduates that come from your own backyard.
If you still have the urge to play the zero-sum game known as offwhoring, try sending it out to the people down I-71 (Columbus, Cincinatti).
Hell no. It's more like karmic justice delivered in an explosive package.
Extreme would be repeatedly turning the whole subcontinent into glass 24/7/365.25, even after the jobs returned to the nations that lost them (you'd only have to level the primary job theft centres enough to discourage rebuilding, not level the nation for eternity).
The Geneva Convention? Does anyone still read that old thing?
It's only read if there's something that can be used to a nation's benefit against the intended purpose - the Gitmo case being one of them.
Given that Israel cant aim worth a damn without hitting a civilian in the process(Urban warfare, do you know it?), I'd agree. To preempt the "human shield argument", there's a thing called "urban warfare". Throwing all the latest technology at someone and they cant figure out how to just pick out the intended target(s)? Well, it's what you get when you lob Hellfires and such at *individual people*- you're going to hit unintended targets.
Palestine does need this kind of thing, they might even get a couple of drones off it too.
Given that the major PC-in-a-box manufacturers and those who make the specific parts have removed quality out of their consideration of their products (IBM/Lenovo, Dell, HP, and to some extent, Apple) it should be no surprise why things are going this way in the US. Maybe those low quality parts and offshored support (IBM excluded when you can call and get Denver or Atlanta, or your home country if you arent from the US) might have to be retuned to quality parts(yes, at one time you could get Non-Asian made parts and have high quality in mass numbers) and localized (read: domestic!) support.
sing subliminal AdWords messages to ignite the Great Chinese Embargo of 2007 is just the first step in their master plan...
There, fixed it for you.
"Okay Bob, a nice gentle bank to the right ... okay ... now swing back to the left ... ahh, now you got it. Keep doing that for a while."
Wait until the pilot "accidentally" banks deep into some restricted airspace (on one of the CEO's orders), and they ask who ordered it to later learn that Stanford privlege doesnt buy you out of jail.
Heck, if you have a $180k hammock in there, pay the pilot extra to fly *into* turbulence that isnt a microburst.
The only thing really overkill though would be them using it as a Vomit Comet. How do you explain that to the shareholders- giving them a good impression, and potential prospects to work for google an unforgettable interview?
It wouldn't surprise me if Brin and Page get a little miffed at this guy for discussing their private jet in public, though.
For what's being discussed, it'd be overreacting. It's not like they used blood money(y'know, jobs!) to buy it like Carly "Only my job is god given" Fiorina. Given that you have to be from a very exclusive college(and a mindset to match to seal yourself an offer) to work for Google, it's not like they had Carly's Problem though.
Guess FuckedGoogle was right about their 767 being up in flames, albeit of the legal kind ;) .
America could single-handedly destroy the economy of Nevada by outlawing gambling.
They did a little disaster on the Midwest and the Rust Belt on the manufacturing industry, and even left it in a manner that recovery would require a universal open-door admissions/merit blind total funding policy to all universities. Look to Ohio/Michigan/Indiana/Pennsylvania and see what disaster you'd have if Nevada had to survive on corporations that tax evade but serve California.
If you don't like their customer service, don't buy their products. The market will decide whether good customer service is worth the extra cost.
BZZT! Wrong!
They have to first have perfect knowledge of said "market". Otherwise that line of argument starts to fall flat, with Dell and the other offshorers' record being proof. Otherwise it's a bit better to a) bite the bullet and go with IBM when you can (heck, you still can get your abysmally low quality laptop or desktop, and in the same gray too!) and b) push for a forcible correction that actually has teeth. They're abusing their rights as a corporate "person" and accepting little or no responsibility.
No thanks, I'll go with Atlanta, Georgia or Denver, Colorado instead of some country that has little more than a bunch of paper CMM-5's. It's also why I look for machines that are built with European and/or US parts as the majority by construction. A bit dated but otherwise valid as an example, the RS/6000 7044-270, damn heavy but worth it- metal from Europe, plastic/PC boards made in the US, and a minority of the chips made from The Currency Dumper. Heck, you could even have made it with 50% or more US parts by dropping out the European metal and replacing it with US based metal to demonstrate that such machines are viable.
I think corporations should be punished heavily when they try to get away with abusive practices to trim down the amount of users that get abused and also to be fair to the corporations who really do make an effort in being fair.
Ever since corporations had it easy since the Butcher and US counterpart Reagan, customers worldwide have been fucked over and out. Just that if you do such a measure, you would have to make it a measure that has no loopholes and contains penalties too expensive to pass on to the consumer. How's about a 75% penalty spread across worldwide assets, with priority towards (permanent) removal of assets in countries with no labor protection laws? Damn nice, and would even bitchslap GM (who tried to drop unions with a nullified contract).
You abuse your rights, you face the consequences. Consumers should be able to get quality that they paid to get (even at the $399 level Dell has to obey the law), and not have to depend on the slow wheels of a failed "market" to correct themselves.
No, but it'll take your retirement 5 years after you use it.
The logo ought to be in India's colors and say "outsource", or "offshore" as that's the only accurate way of stating HP's flawed new direction.
Maybe you should look at who Hurd has worked for in the past and the legacy of his predecessor, Lars Nyberg. If you think Carly was bad, this guy may just bring the 1990's NCR disasters over to HP instead of bringing back the "HP Way". With the company gutted after Hurd and Nyberg, he's proven himself to have a worse reputation. He had a chance to prove himself different, but he failed in that respect up to this point.
He is not the "blue collar" person that you think he might be. He was one of those who helped destroy that part of NCR.
It'll be replaced by the "PAY" button.