Shouldn't they study AND learn how to run a handheld? Seems to me that with the ability to install Linux/BSD onto a handheld, and all the stuff that can be plugged into them, that the iPaq etc. are the Vic 20's and TRS-80's of today...
I wish I could have had a handheld churning away compiling while the teacher lectured, followed by testing the code at the 'free time' at the end of class...
Oh, and hauling that cassette drive around all day was a b**ch...
I used to manage a white-box shop (branch of a bigger company) and that is where I buy PCs as an IT Manager now. Warranty. Do you want to beat the manufacturer over the head to replace your burner or do you want to let the poor bastard that sold you the system do it? Why not let them pay for return shipping? Do you want to wait an extra day or two for the manufacturer to ship you packing materials? Do you want to beat UPS over the head for 4-6 weeks to get your claim processed? Get the base system at the white box place, you'll have a warranty. Then take it apart and put it back together - yay! Besides, those guys know every damn bios setting and trick. Then get your $900 SCSI controller and your 22" Diamandtron and whatever else whiz-bang stuff you want, and do that part yourself... Don't be a sucker, make somebody else deal with the ugly stuff (RMAs, shipping) and get computing...
But it says 'Compaq' on it and it says 'Armada 4110' on the bottom. It's 800x600 11.3" display, P100 Intel, only 24mb ram. I've had NT4, w98, Slackware, and Mandrake on it. But for some reason my battery only gets about three hours...
Oh, and I have about $100 in it total...
LR
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Yeah, the PDAs and phones, embedded, is the new hobbyist Holy Land. That's the only place where the hardware is simple enough and the software underdeveloped enough to really do something...
This was a dumb post. How much money that's been spent on homogenized networks (win9x, nt, 2k, xp, Solaris, linux, etc) would be wasted? It's not reality.
Dude, your signature rocks! I am falling off my chair, it is sweet!
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Yeah, we ARE old. I used SAM in my own programs, it was hidden in the background, I think it was my C64 (I had a Vic20 in around '82 or '83). I got a ton of stuff from RUN magazine, remember when computer mags actually had two dozen pages of source code in them? And later they would provide optional code for the C128 or Amiga... I had an 80-column mode display on a 9" color tv ( 80 columns was an awesome hack, straight from RUN magazine). My favorite, though, was the ability to design a 'custom character set' (basically console fonts) using a joystick to turn blocks on or off on an 8x8 grid (or 8x7?). I used to design at least one new 'character set' for each one of my programs, and used these characters in lieu of bitmapping (I never did get an assembly book for the C64). It only took hours to do it, and it only took an extra 8 or 10 minutes to load the new character set when you went to a different module in your program...:)
Did anybody else used to notch out single-sided floppies to use them as double-sided, and then bitch when they stopped spinning? Or how about 'brain transplants' (moving the magnetic media into a new sleeve)?
While I'm whipping out the nostalgia, the other two hacks that were my favorite were my buddy Mike's hardware hacks:
Read-only/Read-write toggle switch on his giant 1541 floppy drive (used instead of the default floppy 'notch' sensor)...
Taking the screws out of your C64, putting the bottom half of it (the brains) under your monitor stand, and putting the top half (the keyboard) out on the desk by itself for PC coolness, with the keyboard's flimsy rainbow-colored wires stretched tight, and the big magnetic circle around the wires to kill 'interference'. Dumb, but it looked cool to have a remote keyboard...
Huh? Volunteers, BYOG (gear). Have fun. That's how it's funded... I'm jealous of some of that gear... Makes me want to get a few laptops, a new DVD drive, etc...
So use FreeBSD or NetBSD. NetBSD's kernel is very similar to OpenBSD (getting less so all the time), but it's still BSD. I'm using FreeBSD, I like the way the kernel runs (different feel from Linux, big jobs don't hog the whole system). If you like OpenBSD, then I would recommend the NetBSD, since OpenBSD is fruit from NetBSD's tree (thus the number of ports to other platforms compared to FreeBSD).
Also, if you like having utter control over the system without weeding unwanted 'stuff', you can't beat a 'BSD.
'jvmatthe' doesn't seem to have read his own post:
'Presumably this means that this Weather Channel is the one footing the bill for the development.'
Yes, one could presume this by reading it from the TG Website THAT YOU LINKED TO or YOUR OWN POST. Doh.
'Given that the current Linux support for the 8500 is limited to a binary-only driver that is intended for a related professional-level card...'
XFree86 runs on lots of operating systems and hardware platforms, also as mentioned on YOUR POST and the WEB SITES that you linked to. Also doh.
Why is this post biased toward Linux? Many readers seemed to have picked up this thread, while FreeBSD'ers have to check the source to find out if it applies to us...
Par for the course, I guess, checking the source...
Goddamnit, every news story ends up turning into the same discussion, with 'OS X looks better than Gnome' and 'Browsers run better in Windows'. Blah blah blah, who fucking cares? Do you people do anything with your PC besides post messages about what you can do with your PC? This story is about Mozilla, which runs like ass like everything else on my system. Fuck off.
Slashdot Mirror
Here is their Editorial Forum ...
So use what you want, why do we care?
(Self-reporting uber dork, -1)
Exactly. And if it doesn't know I'm me, I'll make it submit. It's better than letting MS climb on for some grab-ass...
Your sig is awesome!
LR
Shouldn't they study AND learn how to run a handheld? Seems to me that with the ability to install Linux/BSD onto a handheld, and all the stuff that can be plugged into them, that the iPaq etc. are the Vic 20's and TRS-80's of today...
I wish I could have had a handheld churning away compiling while the teacher lectured, followed by testing the code at the 'free time' at the end of class...
Oh, and hauling that cassette drive around all day was a b**ch...
LR
I used to manage a white-box shop (branch of a bigger company) and that is where I buy PCs as an IT Manager now. Warranty. Do you want to beat the manufacturer over the head to replace your burner or do you want to let the poor bastard that sold you the system do it? Why not let them pay for return shipping? Do you want to wait an extra day or two for the manufacturer to ship you packing materials? Do you want to beat UPS over the head for 4-6 weeks to get your claim processed?
Get the base system at the white box place, you'll have a warranty. Then take it apart and put it back together - yay! Besides, those guys know every damn bios setting and trick.
Then get your $900 SCSI controller and your 22" Diamandtron and whatever else whiz-bang stuff you want, and do that part yourself...
Don't be a sucker, make somebody else deal with the ugly stuff (RMAs, shipping) and get computing...
LR
DOOM II stole my early drinking days (early twenties)
10 Swig of beer
20 puff of cig
30 click click click click
40 goto 10
:)
Oh yeah baby... When it comes out I'm making one big trip... Dual Athlon board, GeForce somethingorother, big ol harddrive, and DOOM III!!!
I finally have an excuse...
Oh, yah, and a DVD drive...
:)
But it says 'Compaq' on it and it says 'Armada 4110' on the bottom. It's 800x600 11.3" display, P100 Intel, only 24mb ram. I've had NT4, w98, Slackware, and Mandrake on it.
But for some reason my battery only gets about three hours...
Oh, and I have about $100 in it total...
LR
Yeah, the PDAs and phones, embedded, is the new hobbyist Holy Land. That's the only place where the hardware is simple enough and the software underdeveloped enough to really do something...
LR
This was a dumb post. How much money that's been spent on homogenized networks (win9x, nt, 2k, xp, Solaris, linux, etc) would be wasted? It's not reality.
Dude, your signature rocks! I am falling off my chair, it is sweet!
LR
WRONG! Don't you remember...
:)
The only way to win is to NOT PLAY THE GAME.
Joshua figured it out...
And he wasn't even a Cray...
LR
Yeah, we ARE old. I used SAM in my own programs, it was hidden in the background, I think it was my C64 (I had a Vic20 in around '82 or '83). I got a ton of stuff from RUN magazine, remember when computer mags actually had two dozen pages of source code in them? :)
:)
And later they would provide optional code for the C128 or Amiga...
I had an 80-column mode display on a 9" color tv ( 80 columns was an awesome hack, straight from RUN magazine).
My favorite, though, was the ability to design a 'custom character set' (basically console fonts) using a joystick to turn blocks on or off on an 8x8 grid (or 8x7?). I used to design at least one new 'character set' for each one of my programs, and used these characters in lieu of bitmapping (I never did get an assembly book for the C64). It only took hours to do it, and it only took an extra 8 or 10 minutes to load the new character set when you went to a different module in your program...
Did anybody else used to notch out single-sided floppies to use them as double-sided, and then bitch when they stopped spinning?
Or how about 'brain transplants' (moving the magnetic media into a new sleeve)?
While I'm whipping out the nostalgia, the other two hacks that were my favorite were my buddy Mike's hardware hacks:
Read-only/Read-write toggle switch on his giant 1541 floppy drive (used instead of the default floppy 'notch' sensor)...
Taking the screws out of your C64, putting the bottom half of it (the brains) under your monitor stand, and putting the top half (the keyboard) out on the desk by itself for PC coolness, with the keyboard's flimsy rainbow-colored wires stretched tight, and the big magnetic circle around the wires to kill 'interference'. Dumb, but it looked cool to have a remote keyboard...
End Section 'Nostalgia gush'
LR
Does anybody have the article on a different site? Will it ever come back up?
:)
Reminds me of Banjo...
I've been on the lookout for something like this.
Say, do they have any ambitions of getting MIDI score editing thrown into this?
LR
Yeah, 4.5 just hit in Jan. or Feb, how long has it been since the newest Windows release hit?
Do you have stability problems staying on the 'bleeding edge' like that?
LR
Dude, Whatever.
Recent convert from Linux, Happy B-day FreeBSD.
:)
Now what should I grab, since I'm using 4.6rc1
Huh? Volunteers, BYOG (gear). Have fun. That's how it's funded... I'm jealous of some of that gear... Makes me want to get a few laptops, a new DVD drive, etc...
So use FreeBSD or NetBSD. NetBSD's kernel is very similar to OpenBSD (getting less so all the time), but it's still BSD. I'm using FreeBSD, I like the way the kernel runs (different feel from Linux, big jobs don't hog the whole system). If you like OpenBSD, then I would recommend the NetBSD, since OpenBSD is fruit from NetBSD's tree (thus the number of ports to other platforms compared to FreeBSD).
Also, if you like having utter control over the system without weeding unwanted 'stuff', you can't beat a 'BSD.
'jvmatthe' doesn't seem to have read his own post:
...
'Presumably this means that this Weather Channel is the one footing the bill for the development.'
Yes, one could presume this by reading it from the TG Website THAT YOU LINKED TO or YOUR OWN POST. Doh.
'Given that the current Linux support for the 8500 is limited to a binary-only driver that is intended for a related professional-level card...'
XFree86 runs on lots of operating systems and hardware platforms, also as mentioned on YOUR POST and the WEB SITES that you linked to. Also doh.
Why is this post biased toward Linux? Many readers seemed to have picked up this thread, while FreeBSD'ers have to check the source to find out if it applies to us...
Par for the course, I guess, checking the source
Goddamnit, every news story ends up turning into the same discussion, with 'OS X looks better than Gnome' and 'Browsers run better in Windows'. Blah blah blah, who fucking cares?
Do you people do anything with your PC besides post messages about what you can do with your PC? This story is about Mozilla, which runs like ass like everything else on my system.
Fuck off.
That was a great story grandpa, tell it again...
'It's in the hole! It's in the hole...'
:)