They guy got his name at the top of the list for a bridge somewhere. Named a team mascot somewhere 'Cobeagle The Eagle' or some such. Why? Presidency is the next logical step! He is quite well versed in addressing 'the nation'. And this is the perfect opportunity. He has got to be planning this in his secret lair somewhere.
Andersen Consulting spun off most of it's viable business into Accenture. So with a nice shell game, there are no *real* legal consequences for Arthur Andersen.
I think it's discontinued now but when i bought it about 3~4 years ago, I got it for around $300 new. it's fast - about 20ppm - and has worked flawlessly. we've got about 10 of those puppies at work. been working fine.
brother makes a similar type of printer. don't recall the model. but we bought about 2-3 of those for work at ~$200 apiece.
> Yes, I'm sure we'll create a big fuzz over global warming, but I don't see it showing up as more than a blip in the ecosystem
but then so are we as a species. so maybe it's in our best interest to keep what you're calling the blip in a stable equilibrium unless you want us all to go extinct and wait till the next ice age to roll around for it to then get just warm enough for our survival to be possible again. i'm all for stabilizing the environment, if possible, regardless of weather or not it's part of some grand design that make the earth go through hot-flashes and chills cycle as if it were menopausal.
yeah, http://support.dell.com/ worked out great when, as i had the dell install CDs in hand, i proceeded to reinstall windows only to discover the NIC wasn't supported out of the box.
honestly, there are times when linux doesn't support things out of the box (wireless cards, nvidia cards etc..). but there are times windows doesn't support things out of the box either. can we stop this pissing contest already?
consider the parent posters ID: 25287 consider your id: 223197
then, consider the fact that you found "You must be new here" a novel response - at least novel enough for you to use it. let me just say, *You* must be new here.:P
P.S. i hope the recursive irony - including my ID and the parent posters ID - is self evident. no need for recursive "*You* must be new here" replies. please think of the children.
P.P.S. i don't really think recursion is the right word. but the fact that an 'older' user is declared 'new' by a newer user on each child post should lead to a division by zero, a black hole, or at least a bazzarro world somewhere... or it might just be my bed time.
but then, in Pulp Fiction, whenever something serious is going down, John Travolta is in the can.
i) Robbery at the diner. ii) Mia ODing iii) Bruce Willis returning to his apartment to fetch his daddys watch - consequently ends up shooting Travolta while he is *in the can*.
So, just wanted to point out that there is at least one movie where 'can usage' is central to the story.
most gauges, tape measures, etc are also made in china. but they have inches on 'em. doesn't mean they use inches/feet in china.
it very well may be that they don't use left threaded screws. but concluding that because they make right threaded screws they must also use right threaded screws is jumping to conclusions.
you ever buy a CD player? did you get a CD with it?
ever bought a toaster? get a loaf of bread with it?
they too are pretty much paper weight without the respective what-have-you to go with it. why should computers be any different. actually, the whole point about compaq reverse engineering the IBM PC and thus ushering in the era of personal computing was to allow an open hardware architecture to allow mixing and matching of not only the hardware but the software as well. up until that point hardware came with their own OS. see mainframes etc.. MS closed that 'hole' by pretending that the PC hardware was useless without *MS* OS. i was shocked to discover that the OS that came with the computer didn't really have much to do with the hardware and that i could, if i wanted to, replace it with another OS. up until that point i too believed that the computer was a paperweight without MS OS. clever bundling job. fooled me for a while.
but ever since i got '#bash>' to show up on the monitor, the first thing i do is wipe off the OS that comes bundled. been doing that for the last 12 years. and yet, strangely, none of my computers are paperweights.
DSL - meaning, attached to the telephone service. with all computers/switches/router connected to a UPS. have had 2 or 3 power outages. but have broadband - no power required - at least for 15-20 minutes at a time until the UPS keels over.
> Just imagine back in the days of the railroad barons - all right, nobody can ride trains anymore
well, that analogy is flawed. it implies that if(MS software == railroads && !MS software == automobiles) then { !MS software == (pollution & !efficiency)/* for one */ }
which, as most of know, isn't true. the analogy works only so far as to establish that by snubbing railroads (cutting off your nose...) we're managing quite well with automobiles. which means that we'll manage just fine without MS software.
i have a few korean co-workers and i see them using all kinds of korean software that they claim works better than their rivals (a korean antivirus/spamware removing software comes to mind, tho i don't know the name of it). so maybe, just maybe, they already have software that works better in their market and isn't made by MS. there are others that make software too you know.
i haven't had to use MS software for over 8 years. and i develop software for a living. horses and buggies? if you say so.
> there are now plenty of organisations with relatively deep pockets ready to fight if their software ecosystem is threatened by MS.
well, let's hope their Department of Altruism can go over the heads of the Department of Patents within the deep bowels of the said deep pocketed friend.
personally, i hope the community can defend itself. with or without help from commercial entities. kinda like what ESR said about enough eyes making bugs shallow, i think instead of looking to *a* deep pocket, enough shallow pockets should make the well deep. i'd be more than glad to contribute to a fund should such a fund be created to fight the bullying tactics that MS, and others, get involved in.
up until recently, we were at the "first they laugh at you". now we're squarely at the gates (no pun intended) of "then they fight you". if we can't defend ourselves, contrary to popular belief, we don't win.
if a bunch of unrelated, dispersed people can band together and come up with a software development methodology, the software and the support system (GNU, linux, Debian etc...) out of ether to successfully compete with highly organized corporate entities dedicated to that task.. surely we can find a way to massively DDOS the legal arm of the said corporate entities. for example (and this is only a non-thought-out example so do not feel free to use it for the strawman) if every LUG filed a complaint in small claims court around the world - for the shrink-wrapped EULA (that you can't read before you open the package, only to find out that by opening the package you've already agreed to the EULA) or some such...
hmm... regardless; i still would like to believe that we can defend our own instead of looking for a sympathetic deep pocket.
it's well within Dell's right to remove anything they don't like.
it's well within our rights to not trust Dell for exercising that right.
> I have a 6 year old and a Wii
if you have a 6 year old, goes without saying you have a Wii..
but then you could have a 6 year old with your partner being the one with the Wii.
baahh..
if you have a 6 year old, one of you certainly has a Wii. no, that doesn't sound right either. i give up. but there's a Wii involved somewhere..
now imagine a beowulf cluster of virgins. wait, that's slashdot! ;)
The next president of Estonia ... Steven Colbert!
They guy got his name at the top of the list for a bridge somewhere. Named a team mascot somewhere 'Cobeagle The Eagle' or some such. Why? Presidency is the next logical step! He is quite well versed in addressing 'the nation'. And this is the perfect opportunity. He has got to be planning this in his secret lair somewhere.
Andersen Consulting spun off most of it's viable business into Accenture. So with a nice shell game, there are no *real* legal consequences for Arthur Andersen.
we've already achieved the chameleon-like mobility of the race system. caste system is so passe.
in other news: your shit stinketh too.
HP LaserJet 1300
I think it's discontinued now but when i bought it about 3~4 years ago, I got it for around $300 new. it's fast - about 20ppm - and has worked flawlessly. we've got about 10 of those puppies at work. been working fine.
brother makes a similar type of printer. don't recall the model. but we bought about 2-3 of those for work at ~$200 apiece.
all of 'em have the postscript RIP(?).
until Eclipse get a psychiatrist, it's not even a contender ;)
> Yes, I'm sure we'll create a big fuzz over global warming, but I don't see it showing up as more than a blip in the ecosystem
but then so are we as a species. so maybe it's in our best interest to keep what you're calling the blip in a stable equilibrium unless you want us all to go extinct and wait till the next ice age to roll around for it to then get just warm enough for our survival to be possible again. i'm all for stabilizing the environment, if possible, regardless of weather or not it's part of some grand design that make the earth go through hot-flashes and chills cycle as if it were menopausal.
how about you?
yeah, http://support.dell.com/ worked out great when, as i had the dell install CDs in hand, i proceeded to reinstall windows only to discover the NIC wasn't supported out of the box.
honestly, there are times when linux doesn't support things out of the box (wireless cards, nvidia cards etc..). but there are times windows doesn't support things out of the box either. can we stop this pissing contest already?
consider the parent posters ID: 25287
:P
consider your id: 223197
then, consider the fact that you found "You must be new here" a novel response - at least novel enough for you to use it. let me just say, *You* must be new here.
P.S. i hope the recursive irony - including my ID and the parent posters ID - is self evident. no need for recursive "*You* must be new here" replies. please think of the children.
P.P.S. i don't really think recursion is the right word. but the fact that an 'older' user is declared 'new' by a newer user on each child post should lead to a division by zero, a black hole, or at least a bazzarro world somewhere... or it might just be my bed time.
"My other car is (like) software" you insensitive clod.
> ... nobody uses the can ...
but then, in Pulp Fiction, whenever something serious is going down, John Travolta is in the can.
i) Robbery at the diner.
ii) Mia ODing
iii) Bruce Willis returning to his apartment to fetch his daddys watch - consequently ends up shooting Travolta while he is *in the can*.
So, just wanted to point out that there is at least one movie where 'can usage' is central to the story.
you misspelled Douche Bank.
most gauges, tape measures, etc are also made in china. but they have inches on 'em. doesn't mean they use inches/feet in china.
it very well may be that they don't use left threaded screws. but concluding that because they make right threaded screws they must also use right threaded screws is jumping to conclusions.
Windows is overwhelmingly the OS of choice of the middle class.
really? the middle class had a choice? or are you mixing the cause for the effect and vice versa.you ever buy a CD player? did you get a CD with it?
ever bought a toaster? get a loaf of bread with it?
they too are pretty much paper weight without the respective what-have-you to go with it. why should computers be any different. actually, the whole point about compaq reverse engineering the IBM PC and thus ushering in the era of personal computing was to allow an open hardware architecture to allow mixing and matching of not only the hardware but the software as well. up until that point hardware came with their own OS. see mainframes etc.. MS closed that 'hole' by pretending that the PC hardware was useless without *MS* OS. i was shocked to discover that the OS that came with the computer didn't really have much to do with the hardware and that i could, if i wanted to, replace it with another OS. up until that point i too believed that the computer was a paperweight without MS OS. clever bundling job. fooled me for a while.
but ever since i got '#bash>' to show up on the monitor, the first thing i do is wipe off the OS that comes bundled. been doing that for the last 12 years. and yet, strangely, none of my computers are paperweights.
DSL - meaning, attached to the telephone service. with all computers/switches/router connected to a UPS. have had 2 or 3 power outages. but have broadband - no power required - at least for 15-20 minutes at a time until the UPS keels over.
i guess you could say it's ironic that most people misuse the word ironic.
emacs *is* an operating system. linux is just a BIOS commonly used to load the OS: emacs.
i don't remember what software it was and what context i was using it in but it would switch between devrok and qwerty layouts using the following:
if you typed "asdf", it would switch from qwerty to devrok and
if you typed "aoeu" it would switch from devrok to qwerty.
quite slick. altho i don't see that working for switching languages...
> Just imagine back in the days of the railroad barons - all right, nobody can ride trains anymore
/* for one */ }
well, that analogy is flawed. it implies that if(MS software == railroads && !MS software == automobiles) then { !MS software == (pollution & !efficiency)
which, as most of know, isn't true. the analogy works only so far as to establish that by snubbing railroads (cutting off your nose...) we're managing quite well with automobiles. which means that we'll manage just fine without MS software.
i have a few korean co-workers and i see them using all kinds of korean software that they claim works better than their rivals (a korean antivirus/spamware removing software comes to mind, tho i don't know the name of it). so maybe, just maybe, they already have software that works better in their market and isn't made by MS. there are others that make software too you know.
i haven't had to use MS software for over 8 years. and i develop software for a living. horses and buggies? if you say so.
> there are now plenty of organisations with relatively deep pockets ready to fight if their software ecosystem is threatened by MS.
well, let's hope their Department of Altruism can go over the heads of the Department of Patents within the deep bowels of the said deep pocketed friend.
personally, i hope the community can defend itself. with or without help from commercial entities. kinda like what ESR said about enough eyes making bugs shallow, i think instead of looking to *a* deep pocket, enough shallow pockets should make the well deep. i'd be more than glad to contribute to a fund should such a fund be created to fight the bullying tactics that MS, and others, get involved in.
up until recently, we were at the "first they laugh at you". now we're squarely at the gates (no pun intended) of "then they fight you". if we can't defend ourselves, contrary to popular belief, we don't win.
if a bunch of unrelated, dispersed people can band together and come up with a software development methodology, the software and the support system (GNU, linux, Debian etc...) out of ether to successfully compete with highly organized corporate entities dedicated to that task.. surely we can find a way to massively DDOS the legal arm of the said corporate entities. for example (and this is only a non-thought-out example so do not feel free to use it for the strawman) if every LUG filed a complaint in small claims court around the world - for the shrink-wrapped EULA (that you can't read before you open the package, only to find out that by opening the package you've already agreed to the EULA) or some such...
hmm... regardless; i still would like to believe that we can defend our own instead of looking for a sympathetic deep pocket.
Doctor? No.
as long as you don't jam the radar.