Sure, once you make the change, it is incredibly easy to migrate from one Linux-based SQL module to another.
But going from the kiddie software programs (we are using Lotus Approach) to Linux based databases is not easy at all
In fact, since I am not a genius or anything, it has taken me about a year to obtain all the tools I need to move from Lotus Approach over the PostgrSQL. The changes needed to make this transition has not been easy either, but once we do switch to PostgreSQL, if the need ever arises again for a transition, it will be incredibly easy, assuming we never return to MS.
But going from the kiddie software to Linux is never easy.
1) Go to the store (online or realtime)
2) Buy your favorite distribution of Linux (or download the software if you can't afford it)
3) Install on favorite computer
4) Repeat as necessary
5) If SCO decides to make extortionate letter to you, you:
a) Fold the letter in half five times
b) Use it for a floor pad for your computer.
Really, a kind of no brainer: Ignore the cheating bastards, and continue to use Linux.
In other news Jay Leneo, host for the NBC late night talk show 'Tonight' announced today they will be sueing SCO.
"I used to be funny," said a tearful Jay Leno at a news conference, "But now those folks at SCO are running me out of the comedy business. We just can't compete; We pay writers thousands of dollars a year to write but damned if SCO doesn't say anything far funnier than our jokes. It has to be stopped."
...that their software solves all your problems and that lots of cheaply available people can do the job. They'll still charge you for their software and you'll find out that hardware still costs something and that getting good people to support and maintain your software and hardware is more expensive, but worth it.
I run a tiny Linux network with Windows clients and my people think computers are like some goddam Ronco product: Set it and forget it. I keep telling them these servers need attention, you need to make backups and keep them; a single snap shot once a month won't get it.
I am not educated in this. Beginning at the tender age of 44 I hacked my way through Linux and all that that entails and I have learned you just don;t set it and forget it. There are always things to do to maintain servers. Buying MS won't relieve that responsibility, but of course I have never bought a MS server product.
One thing bothers me now, that didn't then, was the aircraft mix. Other than shuttles, the only tactical spacecraft was the fighters, and the only weapon they carried was a laser weapon of some kind.
No jamming craft, or EW craft, and worst of all, no tactical bombers-missile launchers.
The whole idea of having an aircraft carrier isn't just to carry airrcaft. Were that true, they could have pushed a tactical fighter off a garbage scow and lit up the engines. The whole idea of having an aircraft carrier is to project massive offensive military air power across great distances.
You mean to tell me that despite all their great technology they can't come up with a single nuclear tipped cruise missile; that the mission planners couldn't even think of a single small nuclear strike against clearly incompenent robots? They can create a robot dog for some 8 year old mouth-breather, but they can't come up with better ordnance than a laser?
I fail to see how Linux would be adversely affected in any case, especially if IBM wins in a convincing way.
I gotta tell you I was worried for a bit about this SCO suit, but now I am sane. Win, lose or draw, I will continue to use RedHat/Linux products as long as they continue to distribute it.
Let us not forget, IBM has committed to using Linux in a big way. So if an MS sales person tells a buyer about 'stolen code', if the IT buyer has any intellect at all, (s)he will know that IBM deploys Linux and could send the MS sales guy packing. Such contentions could concievably blow up in Microsoft's face.
PLUS: I will continue to shoot my very own mouth off about chucking MS for Linux regardless of the outcome. As they say in marketing parlance, you know they're lying. Come to Linux and see asthetics in computing (or soemthing like that.)
Actually, the standard to prevail in a civil suit is the preponderence of evidence.
I think a lot of this will be seen in discovery, unless SCO files and wins a motion to have its contentions sealed from public view, a real possibility given its claims of violations of trade secrets.
Hopefully, with the first hearing, a gag order will be issued and from thence forward, only the public record will matter.
SCO has to be sweating bullets with regard to its trade secrets: they have to know as soon as they show which of their secrets were violated in public (if at all) the offending code will be rewritten, presumably within weeks.
I have to concur. I use a hard core Microsoft seller and computer builder.
So, here is the deal: they build me windows-less PC in exchange for a certain amount of money for the computer box. The deal works out well. I get a computer onto which I can place whatever OS I see fit, and they get some money to pay for supplies and for their people.
There are too many custom computer builders out there to tell a customer, no I won't sell you a Windows-free computer. These companies have to maintain goodwill with computer people or they can be simply driven from business by customers who simply go elsewhere when they are not sold something they want.
MS hasn't gotten to the point where they can tell computer builders who goes out their doors... yet. If it does, I guess I will have to find another shop.
You have an ignorance of the US that is really quite typical for a slashdotter. So you are forgiven. To wit:
1) The US Constitution itself gives congress the power to regulate the economy. This was written into the body of the document, not as an amendment. One of the first fruits of that was the 1800s Interstate Commerce Act. A number of institutions were formed directly from this clause of the constitution. Most failed, but many survived, such as our federal reserve system, which is a model for central banks for nations the world over.
2) The 1860s act which preceded the explosion of immigration to the west, established agricultural universities, required every state to map out its land and to make property public records, and the extension services farmers use today is a farm subsidy.
3) Some states, like Oklahoma for example, allows kids as young as 14 to be licensed to use the country wide road system during the summer for the purpose of farming. Our very school system which gives kids summers off is intended to give farmers use of their kids. All of these things can be considered farm subsidies, but they are not.
4) A 1790s law passed by congress gives publications a break in postal rates is considered to be a subsidy for the press, in a nation where getting news to the participants of a representative republic essential.
Most of these laws and policies were established before Marx was sperm rolling around in his daddy's sacs, and are so old, so well considered, and so well put to use that no one even thinks of calling them antithetical to a capitalist country.
This is the 4th of July. If you are an American try having a litle pride. It won't hurt, I promise.
By the way: The depression of the 30s was a deflationary period for the world. It was a problem of glut, such as what we have right now. Government regulation didn't cause it. It made it far worse than it had to be and extended the recession for years longer than it had to be.
Read the history: the federal reserve board's immediate reaction to the stock market crashes of the late 20s was the constrict the money supply. Hoover was rightly blamed for failing to exert any kind of influence over the Federal Reserve.
The proper reaction for government of that era should have been to cut taxes and spending, sort of what has been done now except for the spending part. It appears that as long as government spending continues to remain at historical highs, we won't be out of this stagnation any time soon.
But to give FDR credit for helping the nation out with his spending and his tax policies is like telling someone who sells a drunk who is still drinking an aspirin, he is now the drunk's personal physician.
The anti-spam bill being killed anywhere is good news for the US constitution and for freedom-loving people everywhere. I have said it before and, although I have been modded down as a troll or as flamebait, I will continue to state without equivocation that being able to advertise products on any medium you can afford, is the rock basis of the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution.
Anti-spam is a deprecation of those rights.
A lot of trolls who are favored by moderators here will respond about how they hope I get spam highlighting it with mention of vulgar ads, and they will be modded up. It is unfair, but I understand how far to the left the general readership here is and how popular it is to ridicule statements that are perceived to favor Big Corporations.(TM) This is in spite of the fact that were the law to take place and I wanted to advertise my machine shop, my activities would be criminalized for simply advertising.
Read the constitution. Nothing in the constitution says that my rights to advertise my product is in any way subordinate to a politician making a political statement or to a newspaper publishing an editorial. Advertising products is every bit as important as political speech, and I submit to the readership here it is in fact far more important.
Maybe no black helicopters, but if this lawsuit falls flat, it is conceivable that an federal investigation of SCO for conspiracy to defraud investors would clearly be in order.
In fact, if this suit results in anything less than a judgement in favor of SCO, I will be calling my senator and asking for a federal investigation of SCO executives surrouding this lawsuit. If SCO stock is currently inflated as a result of all the PR from this lawsuit, that is a clear indication of malfeasence and fraud on the part of the management of SCO.
Good to see someone new to Linux. Now if we can get slashdot moderators to stop modding conservative views to troll or some other negative status, we may have an even better change.
I can dream...
Nearly all third world nations are ones which are drunk on Marxist philosophy. And its a pretty good scam. A tiny group of communists run the country, forbids small enterprise, seizes what enterprise there is for the state, and totally ruin any chance their nation has of becoming independant; then when people are starving they can run to the UN, claim that US dominance has destroyed their country, and get food donations.
and Kofi Annan wants civilized nations not just to give them access to computer technology, but to give it to them for free; in spite of the fact the UN is the prime enabler of this Marxism?
A better idea would be to require the recipient government to sell all stake to any enterprises to the highest bidder, hold democratic elections and create democratic institutions, chuck Marxist philosophy ( and while they are at it, chuck the UN) before they so much as see a single dusty Linux box.
By the way: The John Birch Society was right. Get US out of the UN!
Richard Stallman's statements earlier this week about Linux have done more to ease my mind concerning use of Linux than anything else I have have read to date; until this article.
As it is, running a tiny shop using a couple of Linux servers I realized that 95 percent of what SCO is jerking off about with regard to trade secrets such as SysV, NUMA, SMP, etc; doesn't affect my little servers at all. And in the extremely unlikely event SCO gets a favorable declaratory judgement to tax the world for using Linux, we have other choices available to us (FreeBSD, Solaris), until the good people who put together Linux can rewrite the code.
Explaining the concept of free software to my family is very difficult, and even harder for me to grasp the concept. Yes, it is available for download free from the internet, but both of these servers at work and the two at home are products of over the counter purchases.
Inasmuch as the source sode is free available in purchased distributions, and if I had the knowledge I could customize or reengineer what I have already installed. It is about choices for operating systems and their components, and choices is what freedom is all about.
What is most important is that someone is making a profit at selling Linux, and as far as the main distros of Linux are concerned, they will continue to make a profit selling Linux, as well they should.
That doesn't make Linux unfree since I could easily download the software elsewhere, but it does mean that my support of RedHat (my distro) is ongoing despite this little dustup with SCO.
I will start paying $5.00 a month today, this very day, if I knew someone was working on at East Front II port or clone to Linux.
Transgaming has been in business for close to two years now, and while they have done well getting games to run on Linux using Wine, they have ignored the Campaign Series; and I am about to withdraw my support.
Email me stavkaATrkka.org if you know of someone who is working on Campaign series of games for Linux, even if it is just a clone.
The campaign series is practially the only reason I use a Windows machine. Fix that and let me say bye bye to Windows for good.
No, they can't prevent you from walking away but once the officer issues an instruction for you to stay and talk to him, or any other order as a part of his duties, you are obliged to obey it
Failure to do so makes you subject to arrest for failing to obey an officer. Once you are under arrest, the game is over. You can be searched and the offier may then proceed with his 'investigation.'
I think reading and believing what the ACLU says about anything is a lot more likely to get you arrested and jailed than simply obeying and cooperating with that officer
ACLU or not, until that police officer dismisses you in the course of the lawful discharge of his duties, you are obliged to obey his lawful orders.
Anti-spam laws and lawsuits are losers. They are a clear violation of the first amendment of the constitution.
Whether leftwingers like it or not, businesses have an inherent right to advertise for their products using any media they chose and that especially goes for email. The right to business advertising is the heart and soul of free speech.
These anti-spam laws and the lawsuits will be tossed in a few months on those grounds.
Real business or not don;t ignore the micro business, the place that has only a few computers. MS is aiming and has been aiming towards that market for a long time and they are cleaning up.
Belittle the small businessman why don't you? In the meantime, MS is implementing software selling strategies that will take hold in small businesses.
While you are lording your business over everyone else, MS is yawning and preparing to chow down on several thousand small businesses, quietly and deliberately. A little like you should be.
You mean give money to mobocracies like Congo , ZimBOBway and the 'Palestinian state' so they can commit murder against their own people and terrorism against others, only to justify it to our liberals telling them we are at fault.
Let me tell you something about nations of the world: There is NOTHING stopping them from being civilized and receiving aid. But as long as they expect to develop socialist (needs of the people my ass) and murderous societies and policies, there will be no thought of this nation giving any of those barbaric folk anything but a chance at military confrontation.
I promise you that Saddam would still be murdering his people, including children were it not for the military intervention of the US, something few socialist nations were willing to do and were unwilling to do for the most cynical reasons: for Saddam's money.
Do yourself a major favor and stop reading the socialist press in your country and start reading the truth.
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But going from the kiddie software programs (we are using Lotus Approach) to Linux based databases is not easy at all
In fact, since I am not a genius or anything, it has taken me about a year to obtain all the tools I need to move from Lotus Approach over the PostgrSQL. The changes needed to make this transition has not been easy either, but once we do switch to PostgreSQL, if the need ever arises again for a transition, it will be incredibly easy, assuming we never return to MS.
But going from the kiddie software to Linux is never easy.
SCO will not affect linux at all. Hell my whole company runs on linux and I'm not switching a damn thing till something is proven.
Amen to that, baby! They can have my Linux when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers!
1) Go to the store (online or realtime)
2) Buy your favorite distribution of Linux (or download the software if you can't afford it)
3) Install on favorite computer
4) Repeat as necessary
5) If SCO decides to make extortionate letter to you, you:
a) Fold the letter in half five times
b) Use it for a floor pad for your computer.
Really, a kind of no brainer: Ignore the cheating bastards, and continue to use Linux.
I a doing everything in my power to chuck windows in the gaming world once and for all.
"I used to be funny," said a tearful Jay Leno at a news conference, "But now those folks at SCO are running me out of the comedy business. We just can't compete; We pay writers thousands of dollars a year to write but damned if SCO doesn't say anything far funnier than our jokes. It has to be stopped."
(with abject apologies to Jay Leno)
I run a tiny Linux network with Windows clients and my people think computers are like some goddam Ronco product: Set it and forget it. I keep telling them these servers need attention, you need to make backups and keep them; a single snap shot once a month won't get it.
I am not educated in this. Beginning at the tender age of 44 I hacked my way through Linux and all that that entails and I have learned you just don;t set it and forget it. There are always things to do to maintain servers. Buying MS won't relieve that responsibility, but of course I have never bought a MS server product.
So, your proposal should be called the US Trial Attorney Full Employment Act.
The new poll tax.
One thing bothers me now, that didn't then, was the aircraft mix. Other than shuttles, the only tactical spacecraft was the fighters, and the only weapon they carried was a laser weapon of some kind.
No jamming craft, or EW craft, and worst of all, no tactical bombers-missile launchers.
The whole idea of having an aircraft carrier isn't just to carry airrcaft. Were that true, they could have pushed a tactical fighter off a garbage scow and lit up the engines. The whole idea of having an aircraft carrier is to project massive offensive military air power across great distances.
You mean to tell me that despite all their great technology they can't come up with a single nuclear tipped cruise missile; that the mission planners couldn't even think of a single small nuclear strike against clearly incompenent robots? They can create a robot dog for some 8 year old mouth-breather, but they can't come up with better ordnance than a laser?
Okay, I have ranted enough.
The good thing is that eventually SCOTUS will kill anti-spam laws as unconstitutional, as they clearly are.
I fail to see how Linux would be adversely affected in any case, especially if IBM wins in a convincing way. I gotta tell you I was worried for a bit about this SCO suit, but now I am sane. Win, lose or draw, I will continue to use RedHat/Linux products as long as they continue to distribute it. Let us not forget, IBM has committed to using Linux in a big way. So if an MS sales person tells a buyer about 'stolen code', if the IT buyer has any intellect at all, (s)he will know that IBM deploys Linux and could send the MS sales guy packing. Such contentions could concievably blow up in Microsoft's face. PLUS: I will continue to shoot my very own mouth off about chucking MS for Linux regardless of the outcome. As they say in marketing parlance, you know they're lying. Come to Linux and see asthetics in computing (or soemthing like that.)
I think a lot of this will be seen in discovery, unless SCO files and wins a motion to have its contentions sealed from public view, a real possibility given its claims of violations of trade secrets.
Hopefully, with the first hearing, a gag order will be issued and from thence forward, only the public record will matter.
SCO has to be sweating bullets with regard to its trade secrets: they have to know as soon as they show which of their secrets were violated in public (if at all) the offending code will be rewritten, presumably within weeks.
HEY!! I rode the short bus in high school!
So, here is the deal: they build me windows-less PC in exchange for a certain amount of money for the computer box. The deal works out well. I get a computer onto which I can place whatever OS I see fit, and they get some money to pay for supplies and for their people.
There are too many custom computer builders out there to tell a customer, no I won't sell you a Windows-free computer. These companies have to maintain goodwill with computer people or they can be simply driven from business by customers who simply go elsewhere when they are not sold something they want.
MS hasn't gotten to the point where they can tell computer builders who goes out their doors... yet. If it does, I guess I will have to find another shop.
1) The US Constitution itself gives congress the power to regulate the economy. This was written into the body of the document, not as an amendment. One of the first fruits of that was the 1800s Interstate Commerce Act. A number of institutions were formed directly from this clause of the constitution. Most failed, but many survived, such as our federal reserve system, which is a model for central banks for nations the world over.
2) The 1860s act which preceded the explosion of immigration to the west, established agricultural universities, required every state to map out its land and to make property public records, and the extension services farmers use today is a farm subsidy.
3) Some states, like Oklahoma for example, allows kids as young as 14 to be licensed to use the country wide road system during the summer for the purpose of farming. Our very school system which gives kids summers off is intended to give farmers use of their kids. All of these things can be considered farm subsidies, but they are not.
4) A 1790s law passed by congress gives publications a break in postal rates is considered to be a subsidy for the press, in a nation where getting news to the participants of a representative republic essential.
Most of these laws and policies were established before Marx was sperm rolling around in his daddy's sacs, and are so old, so well considered, and so well put to use that no one even thinks of calling them antithetical to a capitalist country.
This is the 4th of July. If you are an American try having a litle pride. It won't hurt, I promise.
By the way: The depression of the 30s was a deflationary period for the world. It was a problem of glut, such as what we have right now. Government regulation didn't cause it. It made it far worse than it had to be and extended the recession for years longer than it had to be.
Read the history: the federal reserve board's immediate reaction to the stock market crashes of the late 20s was the constrict the money supply. Hoover was rightly blamed for failing to exert any kind of influence over the Federal Reserve.
The proper reaction for government of that era should have been to cut taxes and spending, sort of what has been done now except for the spending part. It appears that as long as government spending continues to remain at historical highs, we won't be out of this stagnation any time soon.
But to give FDR credit for helping the nation out with his spending and his tax policies is like telling someone who sells a drunk who is still drinking an aspirin, he is now the drunk's personal physician.
Anti-spam is a deprecation of those rights.
A lot of trolls who are favored by moderators here will respond about how they hope I get spam highlighting it with mention of vulgar ads, and they will be modded up. It is unfair, but I understand how far to the left the general readership here is and how popular it is to ridicule statements that are perceived to favor Big Corporations.(TM) This is in spite of the fact that were the law to take place and I wanted to advertise my machine shop, my activities would be criminalized for simply advertising.
Read the constitution. Nothing in the constitution says that my rights to advertise my product is in any way subordinate to a politician making a political statement or to a newspaper publishing an editorial. Advertising products is every bit as important as political speech, and I submit to the readership here it is in fact far more important.
In fact, if this suit results in anything less than a judgement in favor of SCO, I will be calling my senator and asking for a federal investigation of SCO executives surrouding this lawsuit. If SCO stock is currently inflated as a result of all the PR from this lawsuit, that is a clear indication of malfeasence and fraud on the part of the management of SCO.
Good to see someone new to Linux. Now if we can get slashdot moderators to stop modding conservative views to troll or some other negative status, we may have an even better change. I can dream...
and Kofi Annan wants civilized nations not just to give them access to computer technology, but to give it to them for free; in spite of the fact the UN is the prime enabler of this Marxism?
A better idea would be to require the recipient government to sell all stake to any enterprises to the highest bidder, hold democratic elections and create democratic institutions, chuck Marxist philosophy ( and while they are at it, chuck the UN) before they so much as see a single dusty Linux box.
By the way: The John Birch Society was right. Get US out of the UN!
http://www.getusout.org/action/index.htm
As it is, running a tiny shop using a couple of Linux servers I realized that 95 percent of what SCO is jerking off about with regard to trade secrets such as SysV, NUMA, SMP, etc; doesn't affect my little servers at all. And in the extremely unlikely event SCO gets a favorable declaratory judgement to tax the world for using Linux, we have other choices available to us (FreeBSD, Solaris), until the good people who put together Linux can rewrite the code.
Explaining the concept of free software to my family is very difficult, and even harder for me to grasp the concept. Yes, it is available for download free from the internet, but both of these servers at work and the two at home are products of over the counter purchases.
Inasmuch as the source sode is free available in purchased distributions, and if I had the knowledge I could customize or reengineer what I have already installed. It is about choices for operating systems and their components, and choices is what freedom is all about.
What is most important is that someone is making a profit at selling Linux, and as far as the main distros of Linux are concerned, they will continue to make a profit selling Linux, as well they should.
That doesn't make Linux unfree since I could easily download the software elsewhere, but it does mean that my support of RedHat (my distro) is ongoing despite this little dustup with SCO.
Transgaming has been in business for close to two years now, and while they have done well getting games to run on Linux using Wine, they have ignored the Campaign Series; and I am about to withdraw my support.
Email me stavkaATrkka.org if you know of someone who is working on Campaign series of games for Linux, even if it is just a clone.
The campaign series is practially the only reason I use a Windows machine. Fix that and let me say bye bye to Windows for good.
Failure to do so makes you subject to arrest for failing to obey an officer. Once you are under arrest, the game is over. You can be searched and the offier may then proceed with his 'investigation.'
I think reading and believing what the ACLU says about anything is a lot more likely to get you arrested and jailed than simply obeying and cooperating with that officer ACLU or not, until that police officer dismisses you in the course of the lawful discharge of his duties, you are obliged to obey his lawful orders.
Whether leftwingers like it or not, businesses have an inherent right to advertise for their products using any media they chose and that especially goes for email. The right to business advertising is the heart and soul of free speech.
These anti-spam laws and the lawsuits will be tossed in a few months on those grounds.
Belittle the small businessman why don't you? In the meantime, MS is implementing software selling strategies that will take hold in small businesses.
While you are lording your business over everyone else, MS is yawning and preparing to chow down on several thousand small businesses, quietly and deliberately. A little like you should be.
Let me tell you something about nations of the world: There is NOTHING stopping them from being civilized and receiving aid. But as long as they expect to develop socialist (needs of the people my ass) and murderous societies and policies, there will be no thought of this nation giving any of those barbaric folk anything but a chance at military confrontation.
I promise you that Saddam would still be murdering his people, including children were it not for the military intervention of the US, something few socialist nations were willing to do and were unwilling to do for the most cynical reasons: for Saddam's money.
Do yourself a major favor and stop reading the socialist press in your country and start reading the truth.