I am my dog buy multiplayer games. Hell. AI can be advanced, but dumbies teenagers are fun to kill with mi tanks under Battlefield1942. Most people actually buy games to play MP, and Day Of Tentacle games not have multiplay, so you play it, and uninstall... the fun is short. Its sad because TDOT was really fun, and actually games where too serius, lack of some fun twick. I only knowm some fun somewhere in the gamming scene, the Hammy-Bob mods for Half-Life (check www.moddb.com) and dont like:(
Do you know Counter-Strike? Its a mod. Do you know DoD? Its a mod. Actually some very interesting games comes as a devirative work of other game. That safe a lot of work, whatever can be shared, dont need to be recreated (the engine, textures, sounds, menus, etc...) and you have instantly a lot of users.
So you make a tiny mod for Half-Life, and you have a 1 millon potentian userbase. Cool or not?
Making mods shortcut the problem of very very long development process.
posdata: Recently a quake guru (FrikaC) has make a Tetris clone in only 2 hours of work. You can download a stand-alone version here:
If you can, get all Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Episodes, where really GREATs, maybe the better anime you can wach. Also get the Tachikomas episodes, has a bonus.
Some people think that these episodes where BETTER than the original Film itself.
men-teens try to show thei are the "stronger" and "better". Girls not. And men-teens do the same with videogames, and this why Girls dont want to play most videogames, except..
tetris (and that similar crap) sims (i guess..) buble booble
Ok, CPU will get more cycles. So you will able to put more particles, for smoother rocket trails, and more polys, for far frustrums, and more complex characters. But you will still able a limit around 64 players for FPS internet games. Will suck. Also games will not be x2 fun if become x2 faster. Gamers will use bigger resolutions, that itself eat x4 more horsepower. I think gamming is more complex than CPU power, has also about social problems, gameplay habits and videogames evolution. The view "woow, more particles better game" is too simplistic. I think.
Will be not really much faster, and buggy. Because will be not optimized for really fast framerate, can crash. Because will not include code for new features the hardware will provide (like new OpenGL extensions) will not use that features, and will not benefict from that. If the game was compiled for 486, will not use MMX, so will not benefict from that CPU feature.
A old game in new hardware sould run faster, but not too much faster. If you need a old game to run faster, you have to rewrite some code, add hardware features, rewrite more code, and recompile for the new architecture. Thats too much rewrite, and old games sould be closed source, and the source is lost forever (closed source end losing the source, while open source live forever).
"It fits like a glove, Captain." -- Scotty, Where No Man Has Gone Before, stardate 1312.4, Episode 2 "Even if we were under full scale attack I couldn't move any faster, not and maintain a safety factor." -- Scotty, The Naked Time, stardate 1704.2, Episode 7 "That was a pretty good gamble." -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14 "I'd love to tear this baby apart." -- Scotty, Space Seed, stardate 3141.9, Episode 24 "The warp drive is a hopeless pile of junk." -- Scotty, The Doomsday Machine, stardate 4202.9, Episode 35 "The shape the thing's in it's hard to keep it from blowin'." -- Scotty, The Doomsday Machine, stardate 4202.9, Episode 35 "Laddie...don't you think you should...rephrase that?" -- Scotty, The Trouble With Tribbles, stardate 4523.3, Episode 42 "It's, uh, it's green!" -- Scotty, By Any Other Name, stardate 4657.5, Episode 50 "Any man who could perform such a feat, I wo'd na dare disappoint. She'll launch on time. And she'll be ready." -- Scotty, Star Trek: The Motion Picture "It's borderline on the simulator, we need to do more tests." -- Scotty, Star Trek: The Motion Picture "Just a minute, Exec, we're picking up the pieces down here." -- Scotty, Star Trek: The Motion Picture "The engine imbalance is what caused the worm-hole in the first place. It'll happen again if we don't fix it." -- Scotty, Star Trek: The Motion Picture "We can't take another attack." -- Scotty, Star Trek: The Motion Picture "Just the batteries. I can give you inpulse power in a couple minutes." -- Scotty, Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan "Aye. And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon." -- Scotty, Star Trek III: The Search For Spock "A chimpazee and two trainees could run her." -- Scotty, "Thank you. I'll try not to take that personally." -- Kirk, Star Trek III: The Search For Spock "Scotty, you're as good as your word." -- kirk, "Aye sir, the more they overtake the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." -- Scotty, Star Trek III: The Search For Spock "Aye. Warp drive standing by." -- Scotty, Star Trek III: The Search For Spock "I find it hard to believe I've traveled millions of miles..." -- Scotty, "...thousands..." -- McCoy, "...thousands of miles for an invited tour..." -- Scotty, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home "A ship is a ship." -- Kirk, "Whatever you say...thy will be done." -- Scotty, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home "I know this ship like the back of my hand (bonk)." -- Scotty, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier "All I can say is...they don't make them like they used ta." -- Scotty, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier "How many times da I have to tell ya...the right tool for the right job!" -- Scotty, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier "Finding retirement a wee bit lonely, aren't we?" -- Scotty to Kirk, Star Trek VII: Generations "I've given her all she's got captain, and I can't give her no more." -- Scotty, (Several Times) "She won't take much more of this." -- Scotty, (Several Times) "This jurry-rigging won't last for long..." -- Scotty, (Several Times) "Are ya daft lad!!!" -- Scotty to Geordi LaForge, Relics "NCC 1701. No bloody A, B, C, or D." -- Scotty yelling at the Enterprise-D's holodeck computer, Relics "It's...it's.........um, it's green." -- Data to Scotty, refering to an unmarked bottle of alcoholic content while with him in Ten Forward, Relics
Maybe paper makers and printers makes can join, then you will be able to print with HP printers and HP paper, but whatever other paper will not work. And HP can increase the price of HP paper to whatever. If actually ink is very expensive, maybe someday with this paper itself will be terrible expensive!
I only want to sugges that pimping this people is a bad idea, because is WHY this people make virus, so this news basically enforce other teens to do more virus.
fortunally you. Working at debugging looks cool. Like detective or something similar. But pure research is amazing cool!.. sad that you have the teacher counterpart that can be really evil. People are morons by default:/
Actually HL2 will use InternetExplorer to render the MOTD, will be with "active-x" and "scripting" disabled, but you know... thats with IE is a joke.
All Steam powered games will be easyly tracked with this and bug images, will be easy to place track coockies in the client, etc...
On-Topic:
I dont think all the Game developping is trow away OpenGL technology, but is OpenGL is slowly diing. I think Valve is killing anithing but Microsoft technology. The fact that Half-Life1 run as OpenGL Its because is Quake1 based, but a theorical Half-Life1 not Quake1 based will be no-opengl. I dont think Valve like OpenGL or standards, I think Valve like Microsoft *Closed* technology.
This is critical, because OpenGL 2.0 maybe will not change this. And all people want to continue playing Valve games, because where fun, but is code is CRAP. Look at Steam, the more crappy tool never seems, more bugs than line of code. But is a nice idea:D
1: Thanks to read my post. With bad karma I think is really hard to be read by somehome.
2: Very interesting your post. I dont know that Lisp feature, black magic. Sad that Lisp have these crippling ((( )))) [[[]]]] here and there. Most langs dont have that because is something complex. I dont think is something good.
3: My post whas about to quote strings, because mixing langs (code that generate code) is something hard because you end with very very complex escape sequences. The q() and other nice Perl features able to nicely write a Perl app that write Perl code.
4: I am a old Forth user. I know about langs that build langs. Its funny, but somewhat ofuscated itself. IMHO.
And also Perl provide some features that where very cool to generate Perl. Sooo cool that you can have a Perl app that generate his own source. You can do that with Lisp?
You can use external tools (perl scripts,etc..) to generate some really boring files that withouth this tools need to be by hand. Code write by hand can have really hard to fix bugs, its better to do it automatically. And if everything is sync with "make", you have a beaty machine.
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I am my dog buy multiplayer games. Hell. AI can be advanced, but dumbies teenagers are fun to kill with mi tanks under Battlefield1942. Most people actually buy games to play MP, and Day Of Tentacle games not have multiplay, so you play it, and uninstall... the fun is short. Its sad because TDOT was really fun, and actually games where too serius, lack of some fun twick. I only knowm some fun somewhere in the gamming scene, the Hammy-Bob mods for Half-Life (check www.moddb.com) and dont like :(
Please, coders, make more fun games!
Do you know Counter-Strike? Its a mod. Do you know DoD? Its a mod. Actually some very interesting games comes as a devirative work of other game. That safe a lot of work, whatever can be shared, dont need to be recreated (the engine, textures, sounds, menus, etc...) and you have instantly a lot of users.
So you make a tiny mod for Half-Life, and you have a 1 millon potentian userbase. Cool or not?
Making mods shortcut the problem of very very long development process.
posdata:
Recently a quake guru (FrikaC) has make a Tetris clone in only 2 hours of work. You can download a stand-alone version here:
http://telejano.berlios.de/option/qtetris1.zip
Evil-Box? heee... cool, I want mine!
If you can, get all Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Episodes, where really GREATs, maybe the better anime you can wach. Also get the Tachikomas episodes, has a bonus.
Some people think that these episodes where BETTER than the original Film itself.
Thanks Japan Artists!
Do you know Teens?
men-teens try to show thei are the "stronger" and "better". Girls not. And men-teens do the same with videogames, and this why Girls dont want to play most videogames, except..
tetris (and that similar crap)
sims (i guess..)
buble booble
Hiperion trilogy include a full simulated earth.
SnowCrash include a earth simulator app.
[Short Usefull Message]
I feel like this will speedup finally development of Duke Nukem Forever!
Ok, CPU will get more cycles. So you will able to put more particles, for smoother rocket trails, and more polys, for far frustrums, and more complex characters. But you will still able a limit around 64 players for FPS internet games. Will suck. Also games will not be x2 fun if become x2 faster. Gamers will use bigger resolutions, that itself eat x4 more horsepower. I think gamming is more complex than CPU power, has also about social problems, gameplay habits and videogames evolution. The view "woow, more particles better game" is too simplistic. I think.
Will be not really much faster, and buggy. Because will be not optimized for really fast framerate, can crash. Because will not include code for new features the hardware will provide (like new OpenGL extensions) will not use that features, and will not benefict from that. If the game was compiled for 486, will not use MMX, so will not benefict from that CPU feature.
A old game in new hardware sould run faster, but not too much faster. If you need a old game to run faster, you have to rewrite some code, add hardware features, rewrite more code, and recompile for the new architecture. Thats too much rewrite, and old games sould be closed source, and the source is lost forever (closed source end losing the source, while open source live forever).
I play Quake everyday, and still new mods appear very interesting. Check this sites:
e .net
www.inside3d.com
www.quakesrc.org
www.fuhquak
www.quaketerminus.com
You will found that Quake fun has not end.
"It fits like a glove, Captain." -- Scotty, Where No Man Has Gone Before, stardate 1312.4, Episode 2 ... ...um, it's green." -- Data to Scotty, refering to an unmarked bottle of alcoholic content while with him in Ten Forward, Relics
"Even if we were under full scale attack I couldn't move any faster, not and maintain a safety factor." -- Scotty, The Naked Time, stardate 1704.2, Episode 7
"That was a pretty good gamble." -- Scotty, The Galileo Seven, stardate 2821.5, Episode 14
"I'd love to tear this baby apart." -- Scotty, Space Seed, stardate 3141.9, Episode 24
"The warp drive is a hopeless pile of junk." -- Scotty, The Doomsday Machine, stardate 4202.9, Episode 35
"The shape the thing's in it's hard to keep it from blowin'." -- Scotty, The Doomsday Machine, stardate 4202.9, Episode 35
"Laddie...don't you think you should...rephrase that?" -- Scotty, The Trouble With Tribbles, stardate 4523.3, Episode 42
"It's, uh, it's green!" -- Scotty, By Any Other Name, stardate 4657.5, Episode 50
"Any man who could perform such a feat, I wo'd na dare disappoint. She'll launch on time. And she'll be ready." -- Scotty, Star Trek: The Motion Picture
"It's borderline on the simulator, we need to do more tests." -- Scotty, Star Trek: The Motion Picture
"Just a minute, Exec, we're picking up the pieces down here." -- Scotty, Star Trek: The Motion Picture
"The engine imbalance is what caused the worm-hole in the first place. It'll happen again if we don't fix it." -- Scotty, Star Trek: The Motion Picture
"We can't take another attack." -- Scotty, Star Trek: The Motion Picture
"Just the batteries. I can give you inpulse power in a couple minutes." -- Scotty, Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan
"Aye. And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon." -- Scotty, Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
"A chimpazee and two trainees could run her." -- Scotty, "Thank you. I'll try not to take that personally." -- Kirk, Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
"Scotty, you're as good as your word." -- kirk, "Aye sir, the more they overtake the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain." -- Scotty, Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
"Aye. Warp drive standing by." -- Scotty, Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
"I find it hard to believe I've traveled millions of miles..." -- Scotty, "...thousands..." -- McCoy, "...thousands of miles for an invited tour..." -- Scotty, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
"A ship is a ship." -- Kirk, "Whatever you say...thy will be done." -- Scotty, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
"I know this ship like the back of my hand (bonk)." -- Scotty, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
"All I can say is...they don't make them like they used ta." -- Scotty, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
"How many times da I have to tell ya...the right tool for the right job!" -- Scotty, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
"Finding retirement a wee bit lonely, aren't we?" -- Scotty to Kirk, Star Trek VII: Generations
"I've given her all she's got captain, and I can't give her no more." -- Scotty, (Several Times)
"She won't take much more of this." -- Scotty, (Several Times)
"This jurry-rigging won't last for long..." -- Scotty, (Several Times)
"Are ya daft lad!!!" -- Scotty to Geordi LaForge, Relics
"NCC 1701. No bloody A, B, C, or D." -- Scotty yelling at the Enterprise-D's holodeck computer, Relics
"It's...it's...
Maybe paper makers and printers makes can join, then you will be able to print with HP printers and HP paper, but whatever other paper will not work. And HP can increase the price of HP paper to whatever. If actually ink is very expensive, maybe someday with this paper itself will be terrible expensive!
aarggh!!..
What Flamebait?
I only want to sugges that pimping this people is a bad idea, because is WHY this people make virus, so this news basically enforce other teens to do more virus.
I am sorry for my bad english.
fortunally you. :/
Working at debugging looks cool. Like detective or something similar. But pure research is amazing cool!.. sad that you have the teacher counterpart that can be really evil. People are morons by default
#1 NO FEED THE TROOLS
#2 NO FEED THE VIRII
#3 NO FEED VANDALISM TEENS
N.Y and Slasdot do the same mistake in a row. Not cool. Imo.
posdata:
capitol letters needed, sorry.
Check telejano, fuhquake, darkplaces, zquake and ftequake at your favorite search engine.
Only that you are not geek enough to know that.
No friend, this is not usa but Zaragoza, a cool spanish city. Maybe not all world is usa. And, of course NOT ALL AMERICA is usa.
:D
Anyways Usa people is cool by default
Only for educative purposes, of course.
Actually HL2 will use InternetExplorer to render the MOTD, will be with "active-x" and "scripting" disabled, but you know... thats with IE is a joke.
:D
All Steam powered games will be easyly tracked with this and bug images, will be easy to place track coockies in the client, etc...
On-Topic:
I dont think all the Game developping is trow away OpenGL technology, but is OpenGL is slowly diing. I think Valve is killing anithing but Microsoft technology. The fact that Half-Life1 run as OpenGL Its because is Quake1 based, but a theorical Half-Life1 not Quake1 based will be no-opengl. I dont think Valve like OpenGL or standards, I think Valve like Microsoft *Closed* technology.
This is critical, because OpenGL 2.0 maybe will not change this. And all people want to continue playing Valve games, because where fun, but is code is CRAP. Look at Steam, the more crappy tool never seems, more bugs than line of code. But is a nice idea
You can't move all combustible and people at the same time. You need to prior upload all combustible, and merge people+ship+combustible on the fly.
Other option is to generate your own combustible on the fly:
go to mars with 50% combustible, generate 50% at mars.. and return.
My english is crap
1: Thanks to read my post. With bad karma I think is really hard to be read by somehome.
2: Very interesting your post. I dont know that Lisp feature, black magic. Sad that Lisp have these crippling ((( )))) [[[]]]] here and there. Most langs dont have that because is something complex. I dont think is something good.
3: My post whas about to quote strings, because mixing langs (code that generate code) is something hard because you end with very very complex escape sequences. The q() and other nice Perl features able to nicely write a Perl app that write Perl code.
4: I am a old Forth user. I know about langs that build langs. Its funny, but somewhat ofuscated itself. IMHO.
And also Perl provide some features that where very cool to generate Perl. Sooo cool that you can have a Perl app that generate his own source. You can do that with Lisp?
Other option:
You can use external tools (perl scripts,etc..) to generate some really boring files that withouth this tools need to be by hand.
Code write by hand can have really hard to fix bugs, its better to do it automatically.
And if everything is sync with "make", you have a beaty machine.
Reading the article, looks like a built-in troyan that will spy me. Crap.
Hee... its the clients of this people the enterinament industry or these people that buy computers?