I know they say not to bich and moan about not getting stories published but jeez, if they let this through the editorial process they must have something against me. Maybe it's a slow news day.
Oh, and why does Linus look really fat in the first two pictures and skinny in the last ones? Does drinking beer really make you skinny?
Comeon somebody please: find a good story out there, something has to be happening!
M$ hosts everything themselves, they're one of the top 5 largest ISP's they have the bandwidth I'm sure. This appears to be an unrelated hosting place's server...
go on, emerge whois and check it out... I'm too lazy to linebreak the command's return. Alright... fine, here:
red future # whois 64.73.28.28
OrgName: Berbee Information Networks Corporation
OrgID: BINC
Address: 455 Science Drive
City: Madison
StateProv: WI
PostalCode: 53711
Country: US
NetRange: 64.73.0.0 - 64.73.191.255
CIDR: 64.73.0.0/17, 64.73.128.0/18
NetName: BINC-BLK-1
NetHandle: NET-64-73-0-0-1
Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.BINC.NET
NameServer: NS2.BINC.NET
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2000-03-31
Updated: 2002-06-19
TechHandle: JS180-ARIN
TechName: Stahr, James
TechPhone: +1-608-288-3000
TechEmail: stahr@binc.net
I am shocked to shit every time I see Netscape's name on something modern. They haven't had control of much at all in terms of market share since IE version suck (3.0?) in the NT 4.0 days. Then with AOL's drama back and forth with them over the years, why is AOL bankrolling the brand?
I'd call Netscape a failed brand name and I can't make sense of why money is poured into it to keep it alive. Does anyone have a page comparing browser use?
I'm both very surprised and very unsurprised that UCLA has their hands in a project so personally intrusive (big-brother-ish). UCLA is probably the most politically liberal university in the nation and thus is generally against big brother type things and pro-privacy, but at the same time they are usually up to some off the wall project, which this seems to be, and, of course and like most, the ends justify the means even when it comes to idealized liberals at UCLA. Interesting altogether. I'd like to have read a bit of the political flack they are getting from the university or financial backers, as I'm sure there has been at least some discussion.
This is related to the moderation system, but simply posting anything on I-Tunes now seems worth it... There are enough people that would download your songs based on some intreguing snippits (ultra repative FruityLoops techno, for example) that it would make your 40 $$ investment worth it.
If it's so cheep and so much profit goes to the artist I wonder if big artists will break off from record companies to do this only. Think about it - if The Offspring's new CD is only avalible from I-Tunes a ton of people (maybe a quarter who would normally buy the CD) would get it from I-Tunes and that still is like 3 times the proffit they'd get had they gone the normal cd route and sold 4 times the discs.... It's an interesting possiblity.
SO I was readin' this guy's webpage and was thinkin' "Wow, this guy's site is bulletproof; his server is solid man..." then I was thinkin' "hey, good thing - the guy makes gauss guns..." Get it? Good thing server is bulletproof, makes gauss guns... Ya know, like 'cause the guy better have a bulletproof server 'cause it could get all accidentally shot up and stuff with those Gauss guns he's makin'?! Heh... Bedtime. Please karma gods be good to me.
The air density is not close to that of ground level when the shuttle is high enough for it to be doing >1000 mph. When that same styrofoam cup is tossed out of the window, it would decelerate much less than it would on the ground. I do agree that a baseball (and I'd say a styrofoam cup, not solid, extremely irregular, big cavity) was not a good direct object for my analogy.
yeah, like Macs in elementary school;) (I'm just kidding) yeah, I love my TI-89 though. it solves equations so I don't have to and, hey, it has 256 shades of gray to make Super Mario Brothers look really quite amazing. On that little 6Mhz Motarole proc one can install Gentoo linux too. (my good friend is a gentoo freak (read: dev))
blargh... I'll bust out the high powered math modeling if I must, but about the "rocket speeding up" theory, the foam has a couple hundred feet to decelerate that much. if the shuttle multiplies it's speed by 4 times or so (to get, conservatively, a 600 mph change in speed, or about 40% of the total speed at the time) in a couple hundred feet it would have to be accelerating at a factor of 40% per length, and thus in the 80 miles or so it would have to travel it would be rougly exceeding the speed of light...
albeit cool, that's not accurate. is this a resonable response or do I have to bust out the white board, TI calculator and rabble rouse my engineers around work?
And Sparkie, thanks for the spelling correction (seriously); I'm a terrible English speller.
We've seen something very much like this before, if not the same time. Slashdot search is failing me (it was about a month and a half ago, I posted a comment but it fell out of my recent comment page.) I will then reiterate what I said before, as it again applies:
Why would NASA be shooting the piece of foam at the wing of the shuttle at "about 850 km (530 miles) hour" (sic.)?! The shuttle is going slowly when just taking off in the relatively dense atmosphere of the surface of the earth. As it picks up speed in the thinner upper atmosphere it is also in an environment with less friction.
My point is that if the piece of foam broke off the the top of the shuttle when the craft was doing many hundreds of miles per hour (like when the ET separates - the last time the foam (covering the ET) is on the shuttle) the air is not dense enough to slow the piece of foam enough to possibly impact the shuttle at hundreds of miles per hour.
If you toss a baseball out of a car window when you're driving at 100 mph the ball isn't going to slow down to 0 by the back of the car. It maybe will loose 100 mph in comparison to the shuttle by the time it decelerates a bit from where it broke off to where it hits the wing. That's not such a big deal.
If the foam or a bird with oxygen mask and pressure suit were hanging about at a few tens of miles above the earth when the shuttle is going this fast this experiment would be realistic.
Yeah... are they comission based sales people there? That would explain some things. You know, though, I've used a very expensive gold plated oxygen free cable going from electric acoustic guitar to amp and I've used a generic 20$ one (not that shitty; we're not talking lamp cord here) and the gold one sounds like it should cost that much more. It's significantly louder (cable doesn't attenuate signal) and cleaner. And big speakers need fat speaker cable. More power, higher gauge.
I'd say linguistic concision is the objective. Using massively syllabic words doesn't evidence intelligence in it's own right - the impressive part is the exactitude of those words compared to their sloppy, wordy counterparts.
Take the phrase "linguistic concision" for example. To replace that with a simpler vernacular I'd have to say something to the effect of "being really precise with words" - far less elloquent and efficient.
BUT the biggest problem is that if the speaker's diction is above the level of that of the receiver communication breakdown occurs, not to mention hard feelings between parties. One must consider their audience when speaking. This applies to tech as well - especially, as a parent comment mentioned, in the phone support business (where I've had experience).
I think the best attempt at making this a null issue has been the "Good, Better, Best" campaign of companies like Monster Cable (makes uber cabling for upper consumer level to oxygen free braided ultra pure copper speaker wire for audiophiles)... They rate their own products in a tiered system. Some stores (Circuit city, for example) does this between brands in store as well.
The public will never sit down to learn all of the jargon of the year when it comes to technology no matter it's importance to purchase decisions. Like people who don't have a workable concept of what exactally a horsepower is and how many they need (hey, one horse can carry a person right? so if my car holds 5 people and some luggage 6 HP should do it;)) uninformed consumers come to those called expert consumers in the marketing world. Their friend the mechanic or the car buff (reads all the mags, knows their shit), or us, the slashdot readers and techies for their computer purchase needs.
All in all, I don't think people not knowing anything about the technical aspects of what they are purchasing keeps them from doing so. I would chalk it up to the slow economy right now. Companies need to improve the purchase process and not shy away from technologicaly advanced language.
There is a GPLed freshmeat listed project for a *nix version of the Microsoft Terminal Services Client. You can cross compile and run that on your Zaurus;) The URL is http://freshmeat.net/projects/rdesktop/?topic_id=1 50
1. Initiate a download.
2. Do a netstat.
3. Write down IP address and date/time.
4. Contact ISP and request user information after providing IP address.
This might be too late at night for me to post coherently, but I have been looking to ask some geeks about this lately and this is the perfect forum.
I wish spreadsheets worked with three dimensions. For example, say you have like 10 parts you are measuring the sizes of. The dimension of the part you measure makes up the columns (Y axis) and the 10 parts makes up the rows (X axis). Now what if you have five variations of parts? You have to make five different sheets, and none of the graphing and data analysis is easy to work with whatsoever. Now, if there was a Z axis to the spreadsheet.... then the variations would be deep... That would be spectacularly easy to manage data of this type with. Is there anything out there that does this? Make it! Heh. I'm going to bed. G'night folks (it's 3:44 AM my time).
UPS can't ship Cocaine. It's illegal to do so. Regardless weather the dealer told them it was powdered sugar or not, UPS is either responsible for being part of the transaction or they can plea bargain out and tattle on the dealer himself.
The advertising companies first of all can't use virii to send spam. Secondarily, and in direct response to your objection, they can't claim they thought their illegal practice is legal because of what they heard from the company they are advertising for. Ignorance is no excuse (to do something illegal).
Well, either we pay to get SMS messages, or we pay to send them, correct? (Can't have free SMS, we'd use it like an Instant Messenger client) If you are charged, instead, to send them (which you are from your phone) then the current system of messages e-mailed to your phone and delievered to your phone from the phone company's web site (for free) would have to stop. I'd rather keep that free (instead of having to buy credits or use your debit card for sending a.10 $ message).
Simply, those writing spam e-mails are trying to sell something. Spam is (for the most part, before more than now) legal. Taking over drone computers (hacking / virii) to send your spam e-mail is not. You have to make money from your business somehow. If you send spam from infected / hacked computers sending people to your website that obviously collects money for something... well, you have to have a name behind money collection. Someone has to own the paypal account or the charge vendor account... They will find you simply enough. In my mind this whole concept is bogus, as you can't hack or infect and send advertisments. That's like advertising Giant Eagle by spraypainting your daily sales on the front of buildings.
I hope Microsoft preferably gives them their bootloader then they release the exploit anyway. You know, though - I'm not sure I'd trust a signed M$ linux bootloader. It's going to be closed source, you know it. I wouldn't be surprised if the thing ET Phone Home's when you load it up if your X-Box is on the i-net.
I'll bet somehow the slashdot cannon could be considered a DoS attack. Thus slashdot just launched a DoS on the govt. I can't seem to recall taking down a federal machine before;)
I was wondering if anybody had a good link to a plain understandable real world little theory as necessary document on IPv6. I found a tunnel broker, don't know how to use it, can't find reasonable documentation, (no, the IPv6 howto doesn't tell me what I'm looking for). I just want to assign my currently external IPv4 gentoo server at work a IPv6 addy. How do I do that, and, perhaps moreover, why would I want to (besides, heh, cool, I can ping this big blob of stuff I can't remember). And how will it eventually be implemented. Who will hand out IPv6 blocks? Like with IPv4 now?
First of all, heh heh, we broke the Access database web engine. Already
Next order of business, since I can't see the damned article, since we broke it, how are they handling cooling? That's been the big limitation with full (read: AMD or INTEL) scale desktop platforms in a ultra small form factor. Also how will the power supply be rigged? Is this a no PCI low voltage your USB gear better have batteries type thing, or what?
I sat on the E-Mail policy team (a branch of the Strategic Planning team) for Miami University (Oxford, OH, not Florida) this last year (as a technical advisor, student and support desk employee. We looked at all sorts of spam solutions, as the president decided this should be a main focus (apparently the Viagra adds hit a bit too close to home for comfort;)).
The problem in the educational market, though, is that, not being a business that can make rules and force people to live by them, educational establishments have annoyed customers (students and faculty) sometimes if any spam is blocked. (research, etc) False positives absolutely can't be tolerated. So a ranked system (spam assasian) that suggests the possibility of spam is not on the best but the only solution we have avalible. Mail will be ranked and users can make rules that trash everything but a guarenteed perfect mail, if they so desired. Or they can leave them all alone. So intelligent filtering is a necessity, not just a bennefit.
On another page, I had an odd place during this discussion of the team. I do not receive spam. (Please, don't start now). My MUOhio.edu address simply doesn't get a single piece of spam e-mail. I have had the account for two years. I have over 3000 messages in various folders. And none are spam at all. I just haven't signed up for anything with it. I put the e-mail addy on webpages too (that I author) and haven't gotten a single thing. But oh my the trash "spam" account gets 60 a day. On AOL. That blocks 80% of incoming mail. Ironically, they had MUOhio.edu blocked weeks back.
Slashdot Mirror
I know they say not to bich and moan about not getting stories published but jeez, if they let this through the editorial process they must have something against me. Maybe it's a slow news day.
Oh, and why does Linus look really fat in the first two pictures and skinny in the last ones? Does drinking beer really make you skinny?
Comeon somebody please: find a good story out there, something has to be happening!
M$ hosts everything themselves, they're one of the top 5 largest ISP's they have the bandwidth I'm sure. This appears to be an unrelated hosting place's server...
go on, emerge whois and check it out... I'm too lazy to linebreak the command's return. Alright... fine, here:
red future # whois 64.73.28.28
OrgName: Berbee Information Networks Corporation
OrgID: BINC
Address: 455 Science Drive
City: Madison
StateProv: WI
PostalCode: 53711
Country: US
NetRange: 64.73.0.0 - 64.73.191.255
CIDR: 64.73.0.0/17, 64.73.128.0/18
NetName: BINC-BLK-1
NetHandle: NET-64-73-0-0-1
Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.BINC.NET
NameServer: NS2.BINC.NET
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 2000-03-31
Updated: 2002-06-19
TechHandle: JS180-ARIN
TechName: Stahr, James
TechPhone: +1-608-288-3000
TechEmail: stahr@binc.net
broken already...
Maybe it's Opera on Linux... Maybe advision.webevents.yahoo.com is blocked 'cause of that "advision" part.
Either that or they are just ignoring coding standards again.
Or we broke it again and they don't have their server set to provide useful feedback.
Either way I'll host a mirror with hella huge (edu) bandwidth if someone wants to give it to me.
I am shocked to shit every time I see Netscape's name on something modern. They haven't had control of much at all in terms of market share since IE version suck (3.0?) in the NT 4.0 days. Then with AOL's drama back and forth with them over the years, why is AOL bankrolling the brand?
I'd call Netscape a failed brand name and I can't make sense of why money is poured into it to keep it alive. Does anyone have a page comparing browser use?
I'm both very surprised and very unsurprised that UCLA has their hands in a project so personally intrusive (big-brother-ish). UCLA is probably the most politically liberal university in the nation and thus is generally against big brother type things and pro-privacy, but at the same time they are usually up to some off the wall project, which this seems to be, and, of course and like most, the ends justify the means even when it comes to idealized liberals at UCLA. Interesting altogether. I'd like to have read a bit of the political flack they are getting from the university or financial backers, as I'm sure there has been at least some discussion.
This is related to the moderation system, but simply posting anything on I-Tunes now seems worth it... There are enough people that would download your songs based on some intreguing snippits (ultra repative FruityLoops techno, for example) that it would make your 40 $$ investment worth it.
If it's so cheep and so much profit goes to the artist I wonder if big artists will break off from record companies to do this only. Think about it - if The Offspring's new CD is only avalible from I-Tunes a ton of people (maybe a quarter who would normally buy the CD) would get it from I-Tunes and that still is like 3 times the proffit they'd get had they gone the normal cd route and sold 4 times the discs.... It's an interesting possiblity.
SO I was readin' this guy's webpage and was thinkin' "Wow, this guy's site is bulletproof; his server is solid man..." then I was thinkin' "hey, good thing - the guy makes gauss guns..." Get it? Good thing server is bulletproof, makes gauss guns... Ya know, like 'cause the guy better have a bulletproof server 'cause it could get all accidentally shot up and stuff with those Gauss guns he's makin'?! Heh... Bedtime. Please karma gods be good to me.
The air density is not close to that of ground level when the shuttle is high enough for it to be doing >1000 mph. When that same styrofoam cup is tossed out of the window, it would decelerate much less than it would on the ground. I do agree that a baseball (and I'd say a styrofoam cup, not solid, extremely irregular, big cavity) was not a good direct object for my analogy.
yeah, like Macs in elementary school ;) (I'm just kidding) yeah, I love my TI-89 though. it solves equations so I don't have to and, hey, it has 256 shades of gray to make Super Mario Brothers look really quite amazing. On that little 6Mhz Motarole proc one can install Gentoo linux too. (my good friend is a gentoo freak (read: dev))
blargh... I'll bust out the high powered math modeling if I must, but about the "rocket speeding up" theory, the foam has a couple hundred feet to decelerate that much. if the shuttle multiplies it's speed by 4 times or so (to get, conservatively, a 600 mph change in speed, or about 40% of the total speed at the time) in a couple hundred feet it would have to be accelerating at a factor of 40% per length, and thus in the 80 miles or so it would have to travel it would be rougly exceeding the speed of light...
albeit cool, that's not accurate. is this a resonable response or do I have to bust out the white board, TI calculator and rabble rouse my engineers around work?
And Sparkie, thanks for the spelling correction (seriously); I'm a terrible English speller.
We've seen something very much like this before, if not the same time. Slashdot search is failing me (it was about a month and a half ago, I posted a comment but it fell out of my recent comment page.) I will then reiterate what I said before, as it again applies:
Why would NASA be shooting the piece of foam at the wing of the shuttle at "about 850 km (530 miles) hour" (sic.)?! The shuttle is going slowly when just taking off in the relatively dense atmosphere of the surface of the earth. As it picks up speed in the thinner upper atmosphere it is also in an environment with less friction.
My point is that if the piece of foam broke off the the top of the shuttle when the craft was doing many hundreds of miles per hour (like when the ET separates - the last time the foam (covering the ET) is on the shuttle) the air is not dense enough to slow the piece of foam enough to possibly impact the shuttle at hundreds of miles per hour.
If you toss a baseball out of a car window when you're driving at 100 mph the ball isn't going to slow down to 0 by the back of the car. It maybe will loose 100 mph in comparison to the shuttle by the time it decelerates a bit from where it broke off to where it hits the wing. That's not such a big deal.
If the foam or a bird with oxygen mask and pressure suit were hanging about at a few tens of miles above the earth when the shuttle is going this fast this experiment would be realistic.
Yeah... are they comission based sales people there? That would explain some things. You know, though, I've used a very expensive gold plated oxygen free cable going from electric acoustic guitar to amp and I've used a generic 20$ one (not that shitty; we're not talking lamp cord here) and the gold one sounds like it should cost that much more. It's significantly louder (cable doesn't attenuate signal) and cleaner. And big speakers need fat speaker cable. More power, higher gauge.
I'd say linguistic concision is the objective. Using massively syllabic words doesn't evidence intelligence in it's own right - the impressive part is the exactitude of those words compared to their sloppy, wordy counterparts.
Take the phrase "linguistic concision" for example. To replace that with a simpler vernacular I'd have to say something to the effect of "being really precise with words" - far less elloquent and efficient.
BUT the biggest problem is that if the speaker's diction is above the level of that of the receiver communication breakdown occurs, not to mention hard feelings between parties. One must consider their audience when speaking. This applies to tech as well - especially, as a parent comment mentioned, in the phone support business (where I've had experience).
I think the best attempt at making this a null issue has been the "Good, Better, Best" campaign of companies like Monster Cable (makes uber cabling for upper consumer level to oxygen free braided ultra pure copper speaker wire for audiophiles)... They rate their own products in a tiered system. Some stores (Circuit city, for example) does this between brands in store as well.
;)) uninformed consumers come to those called expert consumers in the marketing world. Their friend the mechanic or the car buff (reads all the mags, knows their shit), or us, the slashdot readers and techies for their computer purchase needs.
The public will never sit down to learn all of the jargon of the year when it comes to technology no matter it's importance to purchase decisions. Like people who don't have a workable concept of what exactally a horsepower is and how many they need (hey, one horse can carry a person right? so if my car holds 5 people and some luggage 6 HP should do it
All in all, I don't think people not knowing anything about the technical aspects of what they are purchasing keeps them from doing so. I would chalk it up to the slow economy right now. Companies need to improve the purchase process and not shy away from technologicaly advanced language.
There is a GPLed freshmeat listed project for a *nix version of the Microsoft Terminal Services Client. You can cross compile and run that on your Zaurus ;) The URL is http://freshmeat.net/projects/rdesktop/?topic_id=1 50
1. Initiate a download.
;)
2. Do a netstat.
3. Write down IP address and date/time.
4. Contact ISP and request user information after providing IP address.
You forgot:
5. $$$$$
This might be too late at night for me to post coherently, but I have been looking to ask some geeks about this lately and this is the perfect forum.
I wish spreadsheets worked with three dimensions. For example, say you have like 10 parts you are measuring the sizes of. The dimension of the part you measure makes up the columns (Y axis) and the 10 parts makes up the rows (X axis). Now what if you have five variations of parts? You have to make five different sheets, and none of the graphing and data analysis is easy to work with whatsoever. Now, if there was a Z axis to the spreadsheet.... then the variations would be deep... That would be spectacularly easy to manage data of this type with. Is there anything out there that does this? Make it! Heh. I'm going to bed. G'night folks (it's 3:44 AM my time).
UPS can't ship Cocaine. It's illegal to do so. Regardless weather the dealer told them it was powdered sugar or not, UPS is either responsible for being part of the transaction or they can plea bargain out and tattle on the dealer himself.
The advertising companies first of all can't use virii to send spam. Secondarily, and in direct response to your objection, they can't claim they thought their illegal practice is legal because of what they heard from the company they are advertising for. Ignorance is no excuse (to do something illegal).
Well, either we pay to get SMS messages, or we pay to send them, correct? (Can't have free SMS, we'd use it like an Instant Messenger client) If you are charged, instead, to send them (which you are from your phone) then the current system of messages e-mailed to your phone and delievered to your phone from the phone company's web site (for free) would have to stop. I'd rather keep that free (instead of having to buy credits or use your debit card for sending a .10 $ message).
Simply, those writing spam e-mails are trying to sell something. Spam is (for the most part, before more than now) legal. Taking over drone computers (hacking / virii) to send your spam e-mail is not. You have to make money from your business somehow. If you send spam from infected / hacked computers sending people to your website that obviously collects money for something... well, you have to have a name behind money collection. Someone has to own the paypal account or the charge vendor account... They will find you simply enough. In my mind this whole concept is bogus, as you can't hack or infect and send advertisments. That's like advertising Giant Eagle by spraypainting your daily sales on the front of buildings.
I hope Microsoft preferably gives them their bootloader then they release the exploit anyway. You know, though - I'm not sure I'd trust a signed M$ linux bootloader. It's going to be closed source, you know it. I wouldn't be surprised if the thing ET Phone Home's when you load it up if your X-Box is on the i-net.
I'll bet somehow the slashdot cannon could be considered a DoS attack. Thus slashdot just launched a DoS on the govt. I can't seem to recall taking down a federal machine before ;)
I was wondering if anybody had a good link to a plain understandable real world little theory as necessary document on IPv6. I found a tunnel broker, don't know how to use it, can't find reasonable documentation, (no, the IPv6 howto doesn't tell me what I'm looking for). I just want to assign my currently external IPv4 gentoo server at work a IPv6 addy. How do I do that, and, perhaps moreover, why would I want to (besides, heh, cool, I can ping this big blob of stuff I can't remember). And how will it eventually be implemented. Who will hand out IPv6 blocks? Like with IPv4 now?
First of all, heh heh, we broke the Access database web engine. Already
;)
Next order of business, since I can't see the damned article, since we broke it, how are they handling cooling? That's been the big limitation with full (read: AMD or INTEL) scale desktop platforms in a ultra small form factor. Also how will the power supply be rigged? Is this a no PCI low voltage your USB gear better have batteries type thing, or what?
And does anybody know of a mirror
I sat on the E-Mail policy team (a branch of the Strategic Planning team) for Miami University (Oxford, OH, not Florida) this last year (as a technical advisor, student and support desk employee. We looked at all sorts of spam solutions, as the president decided this should be a main focus (apparently the Viagra adds hit a bit too close to home for comfort ;)).
The problem in the educational market, though, is that, not being a business that can make rules and force people to live by them, educational establishments have annoyed customers (students and faculty) sometimes if any spam is blocked. (research, etc) False positives absolutely can't be tolerated. So a ranked system (spam assasian) that suggests the possibility of spam is not on the best but the only solution we have avalible. Mail will be ranked and users can make rules that trash everything but a guarenteed perfect mail, if they so desired. Or they can leave them all alone. So intelligent filtering is a necessity, not just a bennefit.
On another page, I had an odd place during this discussion of the team. I do not receive spam. (Please, don't start now). My MUOhio.edu address simply doesn't get a single piece of spam e-mail. I have had the account for two years. I have over 3000 messages in various folders. And none are spam at all. I just haven't signed up for anything with it. I put the e-mail addy on webpages too (that I author) and haven't gotten a single thing. But oh my the trash "spam" account gets 60 a day. On AOL. That blocks 80% of incoming mail. Ironically, they had MUOhio.edu blocked weeks back.