He could have contracted the item to be couriered and put a collateral of isk that was worth more than what the item was worth. If the courier loses it he loses nothing.
Maybe he was the courier?
2. He couriered something while he was at war with another corporation.
That's the real one that this guy did wrong.
3. He did not set up an instant warp bookmark for exiting the station.
Makes no difference, time to align and you're already gone, even with such an agile ship as a Kestrel
4. He did not put a cloak on this ship.
You know as well as anyone who played Eve enough to have a cloak that you cannot cloak right out of station because of the 2Km limit. By then, you're dead 10 times.
5. He was in Jita. The biggest trade hub in the game. He did not have to pick up plex there.
'The biggest trade hub'....well...yeah...so he was trading...and that's also where the PLEX are the cheapest in the whole Eve.
I wholeheartedly agree to this. When CCP announced that you would be able to move PLEX out of station, I immediately thought "Great way for them to make free real $ while making some players angry".
I also find a little suspect that none of the PLEX survived the kill. How convenient for CCP, 1200$ gone in their pockets in a matter of minutes with no player allowed more game time.
Add that the real reason the PLEX system exists is probably to get more players to play Eve as earning enough ISK to start having real fun in Eve takes months. It's way more convenient for a new player to start with 100M ISK to waste at will...and the chinese farmers don't get that money.
In all honesty, the way Android reports what an application uses is way too weak and not granular enough. Basically, you require access to 1 URL, your application needs "Full Internet Access". Want to access the GPS data? Your application needs "Location access", "Services that may cost money", etc.
The way an application declares its "needs" is through an element in the Android Manifest file. However, the choices are really limited to the existing Android services, and most of them have a 1 to 1 relation with the services they relate to, and nothing more granular such as "Requires GPS access using only satellites (costs nothing)", "Requires GPS access using cell towers", "Requires GPS access through paying services".
In the end, the user downloading an app sees warning that are mostly meaningless, and which appear in many other applications. It's close to impossible to spot a possibly-offensive application such as this Trojan.
"And how, exactly, does failing to sell a significant number of phones drive ANYTHING forward?"
Because the goal is to demonstrate and not sell? As the OP suggests, making money on one phone probably wasn't Google's main driver. They make enough money to just throw bones such as the N1 at people for them to chew on. The publicity for Android however worked perfectly...
Steve Reich and Philipp Glass as drugs? Well, I must be honest to the./ crowd. Their music is highly addictive and produce strange "things" in my "brain" that definitely puts you in a different state of mind.
Oh wait! This ticklish effect in my brain is called "music"? Oh wooowwww
it is still baffling to me how such experienced people as Blizzard designers would actually make such a grossly obvious "mistake". There is probably more behind this decision.
No offence, but I would call you naive.....I see Blizzard attempt as a move to cut down on forum management. All those thousands of useless posts that need to maybe reviewed, maybe answered, etc. is probably taking up a LOT of resources in various countries. Reducing the workload to practically nothing since only maybe 1% of forum goers would ever post anything, would generate, guess what, more PROFIT.
For the 90% of players who legitimately ask questions or help on the forum, there is no reason why they would want to give up their real names. The only result of that is empty forums, less gamer-to-gamer help.
Oh, and with the above logic, one would also expect a huge increase in mails to Blizzard support for those questions that would have been asked in the forums. This could well end up being more expensive to Blizzard than paying moderators.
Sorry, I love Blizzard games, but to me this wasn't done in the interest of players, and really smell like cutting on costs at our expense. I'm glad though that they reversed their decision, there is definitely a lot of funny posts that would not have been written with that policy. Anyone remembering the "In PVP, shadow priests melt faces" thread knows what I am talking about.
Now if you are in Spam, hijack a system in Korea to send spam to China, where should you be liable?
You've answered your own question: See Calder v. Jones, 465 U.S. 783 (1984)..
Unless the code of law in USA takes precedence over the whole world (which a lot of people from the aforementioned country tend to think), jurisprudence in USA won't hitch the back of anyone in Korea, China, or UK for the matter...
well, how may airliners that take off from Israel have been hijacked since the 70's?
The exact same ratio of airliners being hijacked from Israel in average each year, compared to the rest of the world. It is just that hijacking planes is not the preferred method anymore. I guess it's too risky/complicated a business compared to planting a bomb. Oh, plus progress in airport security everywhere?
The Tel-Aviv airport is irrelevant here and I don't think Israel has anything to show off in terms of 'security'. Besides, they hijack boats in international waters and kill people on board...at least with Tsahal, airliners are safe as long as they focus on civilian ships.
What you advocate here is arbitrary detention of people based on no other evidence than their faces. Using a technique that has not proven to work, and worse, that is being proven that it doesn't work.
Judging people on their faces has never lead to good things. And there is no way to do it 'correctly'.
This whole SPOT thing is again a demonstration of how american people is gullible and how authorities have absolutely no capacity to think before acting. It's not the only thing left.
Plus, on a personal note, I'd rather fly a plane with a 1/1000000000 chance for it to blow off rather than being under permanent suspicion and scrutiny while I spend my time in airports waiting for delayed flights because one of those TSA 'officer' screwed up - again.
Honestly? Enough with this circus show, let's get back to normal life and stop being paranoid while cultivating our ignorance in a state of security bliss.
"despite what others may say about Android, it's immature and their app store(s) are a wild west nightmare. It really is Apple's way or the highway...."
I usually here this argument from IPhone developers. Besides the fragmentation of the Android platform, and playing with both, it just seems that developing for the IPhone is risky at best. At anytime your work can be rejected by God-Send-Apple for no apparently valid reasons, as we see with this story once more.
This doesn't happen with Android.
Oh, and there really is NO difference between the Apple Store and the Android Market from and end-user perspective: they both are apps from which you can download other apps at the press of a finger, and sometimes with a credit card number. They are both sorted by categories, have a search function and delivers an installed app on your phone/pod/pad/whatever.
In brief, you sound like an Apple fanboy in distress....stop the fanboyism, you'll get less distressed...
No, you are wrong. People don't walk along highways "all the time". The average life expectancy on a highway side is between 10mn and 30mn depending on where you live. You DON'T walk along highways. When you find yourself on a highway with only your two legs, there is only ONE option: LEAVE. Get behind protective barriers, trees, anything, if you want to live more than the next hour.
There are countries where this would be qualified as "refusal of selling", which is punishable by law. The usual outcome is that the vendor gets slapped in the face and the customer gets a freebie...
Where I come from, bank notes are emitted by the government. As such, they are what is called "legal tender" and every single merchant MUST accept payment made with legaly approved means, starting with....bank notes....
I don't even understand how it can be possible for a merchant to allow credit cards but not cash...and how this practice can be allowed...
The hard part of Eve largely comes from the fact that is totally undocumented and the wikis barely maintained. Besides that...it's not hard, it's diverse. The diversity makes it so that there's many separated areas of the game where you need to learn specific game mechanics. That's why people feel that the learning curve is steep. I'd rather say, they are many curves to climb, but all in all they are all easy slopes.
No, people who vote in the CSM still have the delusion that the CSM is something else than just an attempt from CCP at making players believe that their ideas on the game mechanics count. I have yet to see any really influencing change coming out of it. Add to it that if you ask players, a huge percentage of them don't even know that CSM exists or what it is supposed to be for, which demonstrates how the CSM is really useful and present.
Other pilots don't care because they know it doesn't make any difference.
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He could have contracted the item to be couriered and put a collateral of isk that was worth more than what the item was worth. If the courier loses it he loses nothing.
Maybe he was the courier?
2. He couriered something while he was at war with another corporation.
That's the real one that this guy did wrong.
3. He did not set up an instant warp bookmark for exiting the station.
Makes no difference, time to align and you're already gone, even with such an agile ship as a Kestrel
4. He did not put a cloak on this ship.
You know as well as anyone who played Eve enough to have a cloak that you cannot cloak right out of station because of the 2Km limit. By then, you're dead 10 times.
5. He was in Jita. The biggest trade hub in the game. He did not have to pick up plex there.
'The biggest trade hub'....well...yeah...so he was trading...and that's also where the PLEX are the cheapest in the whole Eve.
Add that the real reason the PLEX system exists is probably to get more players to play Eve as earning enough ISK to start having real fun in Eve takes months. It's way more convenient for a new player to start with 100M ISK to waste at will...and the chinese farmers don't get that money.
Looks very shady to me
What is the value of corporate officers acting honestly no matter what?
When do corporations and their "officers" act honestly, when it's a case of no matter what? Any example, I can't find one...
In all honesty, the way Android reports what an application uses is way too weak and not granular enough. Basically, you require access to 1 URL, your application needs "Full Internet Access". Want to access the GPS data? Your application needs "Location access", "Services that may cost money", etc.
The way an application declares its "needs" is through an element in the Android Manifest file. However, the choices are really limited to the existing Android services, and most of them have a 1 to 1 relation with the services they relate to, and nothing more granular such as "Requires GPS access using only satellites (costs nothing)", "Requires GPS access using cell towers", "Requires GPS access through paying services".
In the end, the user downloading an app sees warning that are mostly meaningless, and which appear in many other applications. It's close to impossible to spot a possibly-offensive application such as this Trojan.
"And how, exactly, does failing to sell a significant number of phones drive ANYTHING forward?"
Because the goal is to demonstrate and not sell? As the OP suggests, making money on one phone probably wasn't Google's main driver. They make enough money to just throw bones such as the N1 at people for them to chew on. The publicity for Android however worked perfectly...
Steve Reich and Philipp Glass as drugs? Well, I must be honest to the ./ crowd. Their music is highly addictive and produce strange "things" in my "brain" that definitely puts you in a different state of mind.
Oh wait! This ticklish effect in my brain is called "music"? Oh wooowwww
it is still baffling to me how such experienced people as Blizzard designers would actually make such a grossly obvious "mistake". There is probably more behind this decision.
No offence, but I would call you naive.....I see Blizzard attempt as a move to cut down on forum management. All those thousands of useless posts that need to maybe reviewed, maybe answered, etc. is probably taking up a LOT of resources in various countries. Reducing the workload to practically nothing since only maybe 1% of forum goers would ever post anything, would generate, guess what, more PROFIT.
For the 90% of players who legitimately ask questions or help on the forum, there is no reason why they would want to give up their real names. The only result of that is empty forums, less gamer-to-gamer help.
Oh, and with the above logic, one would also expect a huge increase in mails to Blizzard support for those questions that would have been asked in the forums. This could well end up being more expensive to Blizzard than paying moderators.
Sorry, I love Blizzard games, but to me this wasn't done in the interest of players, and really smell like cutting on costs at our expense. I'm glad though that they reversed their decision, there is definitely a lot of funny posts that would not have been written with that policy. Anyone remembering the "In PVP, shadow priests melt faces" thread knows what I am talking about.
2010: "The Internet is dead"
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I'm working in a skyscrapper next to the central station in Montreal. http://maps.google.ca/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.501956,-73.561277&spn=0.018709,0.032487&t=h&z=15&iwloc=lyrftr:h,0x4cc91a5b0ef0a83f:0x242867c96dfae622,45.501926,-73.563337 My boss asked his neighbor to stop shaking his leg, it was shaking its desk... Besides that, most of us thought it was a loud truck passing by. Nothing serious to report. And unfortunately, no oh-nice-premature-end-of-work-day-everybody-panic-now!
Now if you are in Spam, hijack a system in Korea to send spam to China, where should you be liable?
You've answered your own question: See Calder v. Jones, 465 U.S. 783 (1984)..
Unless the code of law in USA takes precedence over the whole world (which a lot of people from the aforementioned country tend to think), jurisprudence in USA won't hitch the back of anyone in Korea, China, or UK for the matter...
Which, in the U.S., it rarely is.
All very true. Worse is exchanges like:
"I'll have the main dish, but can I have half portion, I won't finish it, it's way too big"
"Ah...hum, sir we don't do that"
"But I'll pay full price anyway"
Baffled lookBut sir, we can't do that...
Apparently, at least in US, it's close to impossible to have a cook who can divide by 2...
I totally agree. But CCP won't change anything even if all Eve players agree...As it is now, tournament videos are just boring...
Were we on the same trip? Oh no wait, it happens like that ALL the bloody time. Sorry to repeat my OP, but yes, Fuck US security and welcome home!
well, how may airliners that take off from Israel have been hijacked since the 70's?
The exact same ratio of airliners being hijacked from Israel in average each year, compared to the rest of the world. It is just that hijacking planes is not the preferred method anymore. I guess it's too risky/complicated a business compared to planting a bomb. Oh, plus progress in airport security everywhere?
The Tel-Aviv airport is irrelevant here and I don't think Israel has anything to show off in terms of 'security'. Besides, they hijack boats in international waters and kill people on board...at least with Tsahal, airliners are safe as long as they focus on civilian ships.
Frankly, wrong example here...
What you advocate here is arbitrary detention of people based on no other evidence than their faces. Using a technique that has not proven to work, and worse, that is being proven that it doesn't work.
Judging people on their faces has never lead to good things. And there is no way to do it 'correctly'.
This whole SPOT thing is again a demonstration of how american people is gullible and how authorities have absolutely no capacity to think before acting. It's not the only thing left.
Plus, on a personal note, I'd rather fly a plane with a 1/1000000000 chance for it to blow off rather than being under permanent suspicion and scrutiny while I spend my time in airports waiting for delayed flights because one of those TSA 'officer' screwed up - again.
Honestly? Enough with this circus show, let's get back to normal life and stop being paranoid while cultivating our ignorance in a state of security bliss.
Slashdot, you borked the governmentation with the help of the intertubes!
Shame on you, you insensitive clods!
does this story warrant inclusion on slashdot?
Just for the unusually large amount of really funny comments, the answer is YES.
Plus the frying of eggs with cosmic rays. Now that would be fun!
"despite what others may say about Android, it's immature and their app store(s) are a wild west nightmare. It really is Apple's way or the highway...."
I usually here this argument from IPhone developers. Besides the fragmentation of the Android platform, and playing with both, it just seems that developing for the IPhone is risky at best. At anytime your work can be rejected by God-Send-Apple for no apparently valid reasons, as we see with this story once more.
This doesn't happen with Android.
Oh, and there really is NO difference between the Apple Store and the Android Market from and end-user perspective: they both are apps from which you can download other apps at the press of a finger, and sometimes with a credit card number. They are both sorted by categories, have a search function and delivers an installed app on your phone/pod/pad/whatever.
In brief, you sound like an Apple fanboy in distress....stop the fanboyism, you'll get less distressed...
No, you are wrong. People don't walk along highways "all the time". The average life expectancy on a highway side is between 10mn and 30mn depending on where you live. You DON'T walk along highways. When you find yourself on a highway with only your two legs, there is only ONE option: LEAVE. Get behind protective barriers, trees, anything, if you want to live more than the next hour.
There are countries where this would be qualified as "refusal of selling", which is punishable by law. The usual outcome is that the vendor gets slapped in the face and the customer gets a freebie...
Where I come from, bank notes are emitted by the government. As such, they are what is called "legal tender" and every single merchant MUST accept payment made with legaly approved means, starting with....bank notes....
I don't even understand how it can be possible for a merchant to allow credit cards but not cash...and how this practice can be allowed...
The hard part of Eve largely comes from the fact that is totally undocumented and the wikis barely maintained. Besides that...it's not hard, it's diverse. The diversity makes it so that there's many separated areas of the game where you need to learn specific game mechanics. That's why people feel that the learning curve is steep. I'd rather say, they are many curves to climb, but all in all they are all easy slopes.
Other pilots don't care because they know it doesn't make any difference.