hear hear. Too bad there isn't a way to disable certain mods for boards like this.
Yes, it really is a shame that there isn't more censorship in society. If we don't have someone in authority telling us how to act, think and feel, who knows what might happen.
Debian on the other hand allows you to get the latest version of the software and everything it needs in a single command. Upgrading is usually pretty painless.
The fundamental flaw in the way RPM works (or worked, I like many had my first Linux experience on a RH system.. 5.0, I think, but I dropped it for Gentoo nearly a year ago) is that RPMs seem to state their dependencies in terms of particular files that they depend on, whilst Gentoo (and Debian)'s packages depend on packages that contain those files.
In theory both systems would seem valid, but in practice one seems to work much better than the other. I could grab an ebuild from the oldest release of Gentoo and install it on my bleeding edge installation and it would work. Equally I could install a brand new ebuild on a very old installation and (after upgrading the necessary) it would work too.
In my experience that just isn't the case with Redhat's RPM system.
Holy Jesus. Some of the women on those pages are fucking ugly. I though women at Macworld would be hot, but there's some in there that probably scare their own children shitless.
Stallman in a bikini would be an improvement over some of those unshaven he-shes.
From The Register: We are, of course, straining against every natural, journalistic impulse in our beings by neglecting to mention any useful search strings with which to find it.
How long will it be before some A/C posts them here?
I've finally decided that I believe the courts cannot resolve this. So, now I'll just what what little I can - I've purchased an iMac. Of course, my purchase makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. But maybe if someone else does it too...
... you'll have doubled the number of Mac owners in the world?
On the contrary, under gentoo you can have the latest and greatest software without waiting for the next version. Everything just works and handled by package management. The only time you need to compile things without emerge is when the software you want is not yet available in gentoo portage.
I would just like to add that in my experience if you must install something that is not handled by portage, the best way to do it is to write an ebuild for the software in question. After the first time you do it it only takes 10 minutes to produce an ebuild for most standard (ie. uses AutoConf/Make) compile processes.
The advantage of doing this is that your package will then be maintained by portage for you, and provided you specify it's dependencies correctly portage will prevent them from being removed and killing your custom installed software.
You can try to prevent this by tracking and recording where all the files go, plus their versioning info. But, if you're going to do that, why bother with a packaging system?
Actually, if you're going to do all that you've just created a packaging system!
As an aside, with Gentoo, unless the thing you're trying to install is really weird, you can create an ebuild for it in a couple of minutes and then have Portage look after the aplication for you. Best of both worlds.
1) Devise scheme for making yourself money. 2) Present details of scheme to large community of people from the same demographic as yourself. 3) Look on bemusedly as the job market you identified becomes flooded. 4) ??? 5) No profit!
I've just read the OSNews article on KDE3.1. The article isn't too bad, though much of the criticisms the author levels are things that I would classify as personal preference and not really fundamental design issues.
What really surprised me about that article was the user comments afterwards! The level of ignorance and arrogance shown by some of the users of the OSNews site is staggering and makes an average/. comment seem well balanced and informed by comparison.
They seem to have definitely had more than their quota of do-what-*I*-like users.. you know the kind; they never actually contribute to any project, not even so much as a bug report, yet they demand that all the developers should drop what they're doing and make the 'improvements' they suggest, which normally boil down to 'make it like whatever I'm already using, because I'm too lazy to learn something new!'.
I especially like this comment. It's another one of those X-is-crap(for reasons I'm not too sure about)-and-someone-should -do-something-better(though not me, obviously, because I know fuck all about what I'm talking about) comments. I'm not saying that X shouldn't be superceeded some day, but people that keep repeating this should really take the time to find out just how big and powerful(thus complex) X is, and maybe ask themselves why a community of so many good programmers has not replaced it, if it's such a simple and desirable thing to do?
Here's to Linux forging it's own path, and not trying to emulate everything that's already out there.
Incidentally, I'm a FVWM2 user, so I don't support either KDE or Gnome more than the other.
On the bright side, "Cindy McCaffrey" sweater" [google.com] is a Googlewhack, albeit not a pure one.
I don't get what you mean by 'not a pure one', but an interesting offshoot of this is that now you've included those words in this page, how long before Google picks it up and that search term no longer works as a Google-whack???;)
Slashdot Mirror
Once again slashdot stumbles upon an already popular hobby
Yeah, well there aren't that many articles on the as-yet-undiscovered hobbies around, are there? Smartass.
You shouldn't worry. Oh yea, and can you send that last email again please? I had to reboot and missed it.......
Damn Windows-using crackers....
*Everyone* has heard about Iraq.
It's rumoured that when told that the US should attack Iraq, Dubya creased his brow and queried: 'What state is that in?'
hear hear. Too bad there isn't a way to disable certain mods for boards like this.
Yes, it really is a shame that there isn't more censorship in society. If we don't have someone in authority telling us how to act, think and feel, who knows what might happen.
Debian on the other hand allows you to get the latest version of the software and everything it needs in a single command. Upgrading is usually pretty painless.
The fundamental flaw in the way RPM works (or worked, I like many had my first Linux experience on a RH system.. 5.0, I think, but I dropped it for Gentoo nearly a year ago) is that RPMs seem to state their dependencies in terms of particular files that they depend on, whilst Gentoo (and Debian)'s packages depend on packages that contain those files.
In theory both systems would seem valid, but in practice one seems to work much better than the other. I could grab an ebuild from the oldest release of Gentoo and install it on my bleeding edge installation and it would work. Equally I could install a brand new ebuild on a very old installation and (after upgrading the necessary) it would work too.
In my experience that just isn't the case with Redhat's RPM system.
Holy Jesus. Some of the women on those pages are fucking ugly. I though women at Macworld would be hot, but there's some in there that probably scare their own children shitless.
Stallman in a bikini would be an improvement over some of those unshaven he-shes.
Urghughggughhhh
From The Register: We are, of course, straining against every natural, journalistic impulse in our beings by neglecting to mention any useful search strings with which to find it.
How long will it be before some A/C posts them here?
I'm ashamed that you're human too.
Erm, wouldn't an MP3 of silence (of any length) compress down to almost nothing? If not then it'd be a pretty shit compression algorythm....
At least it isn't a dupe...
Give it time.
I think it's great that even since Freddie died Queen are still undertaking new projects, even if they haven't been lucky this time.
I have a v8 engine block set to fall on my hard disk if I'm away for more than five minutes (3 minute walk to fridge(coke!) and back)!!!
... I hope you've got backups.
Erm..
3 mins to fridge +
retrieve coke +
3 mins back
And releasing something through your buttocks is much like the development process that produces MS software.
What a beautiful symmetry.
'On the Verge of Apotheosis' Linux: Gentoo. Total customization? This is fast becoming the 'l33t' of the 'l33t'.
;)
Ok, hands up how many Gentoo users had to look that word up to decide if they needed to get defensive about their distro...
(I did)
I've finally decided that I believe the courts cannot resolve this. So, now I'll just what what little I can - I've purchased an iMac. Of course, my purchase makes no difference in the grand scheme of things. But maybe if someone else does it too...
... you'll have doubled the number of Mac owners in the world?
;)
On the contrary, under gentoo you can have the latest and greatest software without waiting for the next version. Everything just works and handled by package management. The only time you need to compile things without emerge is when the software you want is not yet available in gentoo portage.
I would just like to add that in my experience if you must install something that is not handled by portage, the best way to do it is to write an ebuild for the software in question. After the first time you do it it only takes 10 minutes to produce an ebuild for most standard (ie. uses AutoConf/Make) compile processes.
The advantage of doing this is that your package will then be maintained by portage for you, and provided you specify it's dependencies correctly portage will prevent them from being removed and killing your custom installed software.
Cheers,
Andy
You can try to prevent this by tracking and recording where all the files go, plus their versioning info. But, if you're going to do that, why bother with a packaging system?
Actually, if you're going to do all that you've just created a packaging system!
As an aside, with Gentoo, unless the thing you're trying to install is really weird, you can create an ebuild for it in a couple of minutes and then have Portage look after the aplication for you. Best of both worlds.
--
Andy
Next week we'll show you how to turn a laundry basket and a speak & spell into your own segway.
Warning!: This will reduce the value of your speak & spell and laundry basket.
The volume in ounces of a "large" disposable beverage cup will double every 10 years
In the UK most people (younger ones especially) work in Metric units for volume, and we don't appreciate you discriminating against us.
The volume in ounces may double every 10 years, but what does the volume litres do?
(yes, I'm kidding)
That letter to the lawyers threatinging the EFF with regards to the Barney parody (linked in the blurb above) is a good fun read.
All it's missing is the line "Say my name, Bitch" at the end.
Just to drag out the old cliche:
1) Devise scheme for making yourself money.
2) Present details of scheme to large community of people from the same demographic as yourself.
3) Look on bemusedly as the job market you identified becomes flooded.
4) ???
5) No profit!
I've just read the OSNews article on KDE3.1. The article isn't too bad, though much of the criticisms the author levels are things that I would classify as personal preference and not really fundamental design issues.
/. comment seem well balanced and informed by comparison.
What really surprised me about that article was the user comments afterwards! The level of ignorance and arrogance shown by some of the users of the OSNews site is staggering and makes an average
They seem to have definitely had more than their quota of do-what-*I*-like users.. you know the kind; they never actually contribute to any project, not even so much as a bug report, yet they demand that all the developers should drop what they're doing and make the 'improvements' they suggest, which normally boil down to 'make it like whatever I'm already using, because I'm too lazy to learn something new!'.
I especially like this comment. It's another one of those X-is-crap(for reasons I'm not too sure about)-and-someone-should -do-something-better(though not me, obviously, because I know fuck all about what I'm talking about) comments. I'm not saying that X shouldn't be superceeded some day, but people that keep repeating this should really take the time to find out just how big and powerful(thus complex) X is, and maybe ask themselves why a community of so many good programmers has not replaced it, if it's such a simple and desirable thing to do?
Here's to Linux forging it's own path, and not trying to emulate everything that's already out there.
Incidentally, I'm a FVWM2 user, so I don't support either KDE or Gnome more than the other.
(by way of Heretic, which I liked more than my friends)
It's a bit sad when you like a game more than you like your friends.
Perhaps you need better friends?
On the bright side, "Cindy McCaffrey" sweater" [google.com] is a Googlewhack, albeit not a pure one.
;)
I don't get what you mean by 'not a pure one', but an interesting offshoot of this is that now you've included those words in this page, how long before Google picks it up and that search term no longer works as a Google-whack???
--
Andy