Thank you for clarifying the accuracy of what I was thinking.
I don't have much experience with public K-12 tenure, but I did spend half my life in the university system. I know that university tenure takes ~6 years to earn, and has very rigorous reviews to reward it - the more prestigious the institution, generally, the more rigorous, because the goal is to maintain a faculty that the department can rely on for excellence and reputation.
It appears to me that K-12 tenure is automatically rewarded to anyone showing up for a couple years, which isn't a very efficient way of weeding out the lower quality individuals. It's hard to do reviews though, because the reputation of a department or school isn't rewarded in the same way; people choose their college, but very few people get to choose their public school.
When NYU was designing their new soft matter center in the physics department the faculty wanted glass office walls on the perimeters of the labs for better communication/collaboration (and oversight).
The grad students and postdocs, fulfilling just what you'd expect form introvert scientists-in-training, responded by taping up posters on the glass under the pretext of "decoration" to gain some privacy.
During the OWS protests, every time I heard someone complaining about dirty hippies, or lack of consensus message, or anything, I'd simply point out that I admired their commitment, and I know few people that would sleep in the street and risk interference for police voluntarily.
OWS started a conversation, and were forced to make a shocking commitment to do so.
I understand. I was trying to politely point out the incorrect use of effigy. If I were more clever I would have made a good joke and gotten a -1 funny mod.
Interesting topic though: is there really nothing of value in the NSA records? Is it really impossible to filter for the information they've gathered that would fall within their original (or/. perception of) mission? The resources they've employed are substantial, and it would be disappointing to me to consider 100% of that a waste, when there aught to be at least some fully legal, fully helpful, actionable intelligence within the noise of over-collection.
We need to simply shut down the NSA altogether, burn their records in effigy, and recall every elected official who ever voted in favor of their activities, or their funding.
So, you want to destroy a representation of the records, but keep them in storage somewhere?:)
I see, so this is only a theft because of the quantity, and I'm a moron for not realizing it.
Or, as other posters state, all theft is theft, and quantity is irrelevant, and I should realize that.
The point is that there's no clear line about what assumptions are common when it comes to an exterior outlet in a public space. I haven't seen anything that clears up whether this outlet was for the use of students or faculty for personal electronics, or not - though that may be due to my lack of literacy. Originally, it appeared that he was the parent of a student on premises at the time, which makes it all a bit gray, in my moronic, non-knee jerk perspective.
Thanks for the lack of toxic communication though. It's nice when we can talk things through as a community without resorting to the greater fuckwad hypothesis.
He was arrested at 8p, specifically to ensure he had to spend the night in jail.
Yes, they did investigate before making the arrest and determine that he did something chargeable. Good on them.
Then they threw him in jail overnight for...? What exactly? Even requesting a court appearance via the mail (such as with a moving violation from traffic cams) would be ludicrous in this case, but they wanted to maximize their punishment, it would appear.
What part of that glossed over bit that they intentionally arrested him after the courts are closed is reasonable?
So, your interpretation is that any use of the outlet outside of official school business is stealing. That's fine. I think it's unclear.
Shall a faculty member charging a personal cell phone also expect to overnight in jail? With the absolutism you're using, I don't see how you can suggest this situation is different.
Agreed. The line is not well defined, and it is ludicrous that with those ambiguities (why exactly is his car different from a phone, or a laptop?) the police would go to his home at dinner time to arrest him days later.
They intentionally arrested him at 8p. A time when it's hard to get paperwork/representation/hearing, and thus chose that he be forced to jail overnight. Jail overnight! Not for drunken driving, not for violence or endangerment, for an ill-defined "theft". Why would that be a reasonable course of action? If the police picked up someone over a week later for a night in jail for a stolen *anything* with small value, everyone would likely see agenda/corruption driving the decision.
Would they have done that if I plugged in my laptop? My phone? Is this outlet only for maintenance's use? If so, why isn't it secured against this "theft", tampering, or adolescent darwin-award experimentation? If it's for student or community use, why is this a problem?
Is this school private or public? What rights does he have as a student's parent vs. a student vs. anyone else? Could we expect that if one of the faculty charged their phone there, that they too would spend a night in jail?
I suspect it's got a lot to do with politics and a regional dislike of environmentalists or liberals. I'd be very happy to learn otherwise, because the police selectively seeking punitive punishment for what materials goods you possess, and what they infer those goods mean about you is not a great direction for us to be heading.
Why is so much precision required in routing? If it's not for your commute (which will not be "new"), then time and length should have some flexibility.
I used to bicycle over 200 miles a week, and most of that was without even an odometer. One of the great joys was the feeling of "I am going to go that direction and see what happens" for x miles or y hours.
And if I needed to get somewhere specific, I'd look at a route in advance and head that direction. If I got mixed up, I'd just head in the right cardinal direction for a while. At 20 mph it's not like you're going to overshoot anything that dramatically, and if the destination area seemed esp. difficult I would just print out a map.
Why does every turn need to be precisely mapped, and why would it be a problem to miss a turn every once in a while. When did sport stop having any sense of adventure?
$900 for a Swiss Quartz watch is not cheap. It's a very good price for a mechanical, though even a good mechanical from a less luxury brand is closer to $600 often.
Whether it's Apple innovating, or someone else, the patent system needs some desperate repairs.
And settling with Trolls does not do this. Settlements tend to be under NDAs, and therefore nobody knows how much was bled, how little the gain was, or how much you can hold a corporation hostage for. This leads to a prospectors climate, and the only way out is to force things into actual litigation and set new precedents.
It's short sighted of Apple (Cook) to avoid such lawsuits. They have the biggest war chest (what, still the better part of a trillion USD in cash holdings?), and can fix this problem for the rest of the tech sector. I feel that Jobs did this to some extent with the RIAA, and it makes Cook look spineless and short term report focused.
So, around the new year Bloomberg the person was a champion for Codecademy, giving them some (imho deserved) press, and initiating conversations here on/. about how the world would be better off if more people knew how to code.
Now Bloomberg the media claims it's a terrible profession to go into.
I guess the world would be better if we all knew how to cook a nice, healthy, well rounded meal. Or how to change the oil on our cars. Or how to gut a fish. And, maybe we all shouldn't be trying to be chefs, mechanics, or fishing guides.
When I started I thought I had a point. I guess I don't. Coding is a great skill to have, and as a champion for liberal arts education, I believe many things make us well rounded, better thinkers, and more productive than narrowly doing only that for which we hope to get paid. It seems to me that there should be enough work to go around (every jackass has an app idea they can't write), and ageism seems a little... simplistic. Experience does have rewards, doesn't it?
I made the assumption that it jumps so high when leaving the rooftop to show how durable it is - that was the maximum falling distance for the playground they'd set up.
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I agree. I can't tell who's commenting there in TFS, but I'd say that the claim that one can't self teach development in their spare time is a needlessly snooty and intentionally disenfranchising attitude.
Hobbyist in all sorts of fields develop expert ability. I'd make the argument that computer culture, especially in the case of web dev is one place where this is outstandingly obvious.
More importantly, why aren't they taking advantage of the free offerings out there, that actual help one learn to code? Codecademy's Year of Code is an excellent resource, and I believe far more valuable a learning tool for someone looking to develop a skill or a hobby, or just learn for learning's sake, than an expensive class in how to use a WYSIWYG blog editor.
I have a physics PhD with two postdocs (5 years total) at prestigious universities and am trying to find the right industry job, and it seems to me that a lot of companies are only hiring 22 year olds that they can pay less than $35k/year to.
That's only half true to be honest. I have geographic limitations, and if those vanished there are plenty of interesting jobs. Are you sure there aren't for you also?
I thought that normally the way things worked was that we had a communal need, so a tax was created to fund said need. This is even true with many excise taxes, though maybe that's not historically true at all times, but gas taxes pay for roads and taxes on cigs and booze pay for... healthcare or research or something? Maybe not.
But, coming up with a tax and needing to make up a whole new thing to spend money on just to justify the tax you want to create as an economic disincentive seems crazy to me. I'm sure others will inundate me with examples on all levels that make this appear to be the standard, but it seems to me that during a recession and during a time where the tax conversation is so vitriolic, inventing new revenue sources AND new expenditures is ridiculous.
I too was an Eagle Scout. Boy Scouts was hugely important to me for my teen years. But no longer.
You know when that stopped? When the BSA started selling off land to fund it's legal fight in the name of bigotry. Donated land, long held as fundamental to the teachings and skills that were a part of scouting, being lost to discriminate against gays, and non Christians.
You can claim that there's no religious bias, and amusingly go on to say that you had three different kinds of Christians in your troop as evidence, but that doesn't change facts. Because of all the lawsuits they've had to define things more clearly and now brag that they even have Jews and Muslims! Yeehaw, that is enlightened! And, the Atheism part - well, the charter says that anything goes, including individually defined spirituality, to which I'll say not believing in sky magic is well defined. But then, my troop was like yours, and every "non-denominational" service we were required to attend had bible readings. But, it is true that they were not as pushy as the Jehovah's Witnesses that knock on my door. Maybe we should call that "institutionalized".
Going to simply dismiss your straw man that all gay men are perceived as pedophiles.
Now, I got a lot out of Scouting. I learned great skills and leadership. I was a counselor for a few years at a leadership camp for older scouts. I gave a huge amount of time to Order of the Arrow. I gained confidence in my ability to do anything in the mountains I would want or need to do. My Eagle Scout project literally changed my life.
But, I see less of that when I look now. I see a lot of lame, half assed Eagle projects. Really, you built a fence around a shed behind your church? That's of great benefit to the community? I see a lot less emphasis on learning survival and wilderness preparedness, and a whole lot more practicing talking points on bigoted rhetoric. You want to pretend that there are people that don't believe in a God, fine, but when you're removing a social outlet and developmental resource from a child simply for having conviction in his own understanding of the universe, you're no longer a great service organization, you're just an individual asshole. Sure, they're within their strictest legal right, and have payed fortunes to defend that, but I refuse to pretend they're a great organization for boys.
You know what is not a compromise? Realizing that a 1911 version of the world isn't the ideal case and perceptions change.
It's been 10 years since Steven Spielberg took a stand, and you're still repeating the bullshit. http://www.hollywood.com/news/Spielberg_resigns_from_Boy_Scouts_board/386418
the whois for seeread.info shows an address in Austin. The Level Up seems to only exist in Boston, NYC, Philly, and SF. Why's he snooping things so far outside his geographic purview?
I can't believe this question wasn't posed AC. Someone thinks their cleverness is going to equal fame. Instead it might equal jail.
I gather that he changed the handle, but it's the same account (followers were conserved then), rather than starting a fresh account. An important distinction I hadn't realized but am glad to have learned.
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Thank you for clarifying the accuracy of what I was thinking.
I don't have much experience with public K-12 tenure, but I did spend half my life in the university system. I know that university tenure takes ~6 years to earn, and has very rigorous reviews to reward it - the more prestigious the institution, generally, the more rigorous, because the goal is to maintain a faculty that the department can rely on for excellence and reputation.
It appears to me that K-12 tenure is automatically rewarded to anyone showing up for a couple years, which isn't a very efficient way of weeding out the lower quality individuals. It's hard to do reviews though, because the reputation of a department or school isn't rewarded in the same way; people choose their college, but very few people get to choose their public school.
When NYU was designing their new soft matter center in the physics department the faculty wanted glass office walls on the perimeters of the labs for better communication/collaboration (and oversight).
The grad students and postdocs, fulfilling just what you'd expect form introvert scientists-in-training, responded by taping up posters on the glass under the pretext of "decoration" to gain some privacy.
Looked horrible in the end.
Thank you for your commitment to democracy.
During the OWS protests, every time I heard someone complaining about dirty hippies, or lack of consensus message, or anything, I'd simply point out that I admired their commitment, and I know few people that would sleep in the street and risk interference for police voluntarily.
OWS started a conversation, and were forced to make a shocking commitment to do so.
I understand. I was trying to politely point out the incorrect use of effigy. If I were more clever I would have made a good joke and gotten a -1 funny mod.
/. perception of) mission? The resources they've employed are substantial, and it would be disappointing to me to consider 100% of that a waste, when there aught to be at least some fully legal, fully helpful, actionable intelligence within the noise of over-collection.
Interesting topic though: is there really nothing of value in the NSA records? Is it really impossible to filter for the information they've gathered that would fall within their original (or
We need to simply shut down the NSA altogether, burn their records in effigy, and recall every elected official who ever voted in favor of their activities, or their funding.
So, you want to destroy a representation of the records, but keep them in storage somewhere? :)
I see, so this is only a theft because of the quantity, and I'm a moron for not realizing it.
Or, as other posters state, all theft is theft, and quantity is irrelevant, and I should realize that.
The point is that there's no clear line about what assumptions are common when it comes to an exterior outlet in a public space. I haven't seen anything that clears up whether this outlet was for the use of students or faculty for personal electronics, or not - though that may be due to my lack of literacy. Originally, it appeared that he was the parent of a student on premises at the time, which makes it all a bit gray, in my moronic, non-knee jerk perspective.
Thanks for the lack of toxic communication though. It's nice when we can talk things through as a community without resorting to the greater fuckwad hypothesis.
He was arrested at 8p, specifically to ensure he had to spend the night in jail.
Yes, they did investigate before making the arrest and determine that he did something chargeable. Good on them.
Then they threw him in jail overnight for...? What exactly? Even requesting a court appearance via the mail (such as with a moving violation from traffic cams) would be ludicrous in this case, but they wanted to maximize their punishment, it would appear.
What part of that glossed over bit that they intentionally arrested him after the courts are closed is reasonable?
So, your interpretation is that any use of the outlet outside of official school business is stealing. That's fine. I think it's unclear.
Shall a faculty member charging a personal cell phone also expect to overnight in jail? With the absolutism you're using, I don't see how you can suggest this situation is different.
And, that should be absurd to anyone.
Agreed. The line is not well defined, and it is ludicrous that with those ambiguities (why exactly is his car different from a phone, or a laptop?) the police would go to his home at dinner time to arrest him days later.
They intentionally arrested him at 8p. A time when it's hard to get paperwork/representation/hearing, and thus chose that he be forced to jail overnight. Jail overnight! Not for drunken driving, not for violence or endangerment, for an ill-defined "theft". Why would that be a reasonable course of action? If the police picked up someone over a week later for a night in jail for a stolen *anything* with small value, everyone would likely see agenda/corruption driving the decision.
Would they have done that if I plugged in my laptop? My phone? Is this outlet only for maintenance's use? If so, why isn't it secured against this "theft", tampering, or adolescent darwin-award experimentation? If it's for student or community use, why is this a problem?
Is this school private or public? What rights does he have as a student's parent vs. a student vs. anyone else? Could we expect that if one of the faculty charged their phone there, that they too would spend a night in jail?
I suspect it's got a lot to do with politics and a regional dislike of environmentalists or liberals. I'd be very happy to learn otherwise, because the police selectively seeking punitive punishment for what materials goods you possess, and what they infer those goods mean about you is not a great direction for us to be heading.
Oh, that made me nostalgic for the /. of yesteryear.
Things are not the same now.
Why is so much precision required in routing? If it's not for your commute (which will not be "new"), then time and length should have some flexibility.
I used to bicycle over 200 miles a week, and most of that was without even an odometer. One of the great joys was the feeling of "I am going to go that direction and see what happens" for x miles or y hours.
And if I needed to get somewhere specific, I'd look at a route in advance and head that direction. If I got mixed up, I'd just head in the right cardinal direction for a while. At 20 mph it's not like you're going to overshoot anything that dramatically, and if the destination area seemed esp. difficult I would just print out a map.
Why does every turn need to be precisely mapped, and why would it be a problem to miss a turn every once in a while. When did sport stop having any sense of adventure?
$900 for a Swiss Quartz watch is not cheap. It's a very good price for a mechanical, though even a good mechanical from a less luxury brand is closer to $600 often.
If only it were the best and the brightest, instead of a system catering to those that can afford SAT prep.
Whether it's Apple innovating, or someone else, the patent system needs some desperate repairs.
And settling with Trolls does not do this. Settlements tend to be under NDAs, and therefore nobody knows how much was bled, how little the gain was, or how much you can hold a corporation hostage for. This leads to a prospectors climate, and the only way out is to force things into actual litigation and set new precedents.
It's short sighted of Apple (Cook) to avoid such lawsuits. They have the biggest war chest (what, still the better part of a trillion USD in cash holdings?), and can fix this problem for the rest of the tech sector. I feel that Jobs did this to some extent with the RIAA, and it makes Cook look spineless and short term report focused.
So, around the new year Bloomberg the person was a champion for Codecademy, giving them some (imho deserved) press, and initiating conversations here on /. about how the world would be better off if more people knew how to code.
Now Bloomberg the media claims it's a terrible profession to go into.
I guess the world would be better if we all knew how to cook a nice, healthy, well rounded meal. Or how to change the oil on our cars. Or how to gut a fish. And, maybe we all shouldn't be trying to be chefs, mechanics, or fishing guides.
When I started I thought I had a point. I guess I don't. Coding is a great skill to have, and as a champion for liberal arts education, I believe many things make us well rounded, better thinkers, and more productive than narrowly doing only that for which we hope to get paid. It seems to me that there should be enough work to go around (every jackass has an app idea they can't write), and ageism seems a little... simplistic. Experience does have rewards, doesn't it?
I made the assumption that it jumps so high when leaving the rooftop to show how durable it is - that was the maximum falling distance for the playground they'd set up.
I agree. I can't tell who's commenting there in TFS, but I'd say that the claim that one can't self teach development in their spare time is a needlessly snooty and intentionally disenfranchising attitude.
Hobbyist in all sorts of fields develop expert ability. I'd make the argument that computer culture, especially in the case of web dev is one place where this is outstandingly obvious.
More importantly, why aren't they taking advantage of the free offerings out there, that actual help one learn to code? Codecademy's Year of Code is an excellent resource, and I believe far more valuable a learning tool for someone looking to develop a skill or a hobby, or just learn for learning's sake, than an expensive class in how to use a WYSIWYG blog editor.
Maybe I'm missing something?
I have a physics PhD with two postdocs (5 years total) at prestigious universities and am trying to find the right industry job, and it seems to me that a lot of companies are only hiring 22 year olds that they can pay less than $35k/year to.
That's only half true to be honest. I have geographic limitations, and if those vanished there are plenty of interesting jobs. Are you sure there aren't for you also?
Right on!
Because without government meddling companies would have infinity factories to produce infinity different meds.
I thought that normally the way things worked was that we had a communal need, so a tax was created to fund said need. This is even true with many excise taxes, though maybe that's not historically true at all times, but gas taxes pay for roads and taxes on cigs and booze pay for... healthcare or research or something? Maybe not.
But, coming up with a tax and needing to make up a whole new thing to spend money on just to justify the tax you want to create as an economic disincentive seems crazy to me. I'm sure others will inundate me with examples on all levels that make this appear to be the standard, but it seems to me that during a recession and during a time where the tax conversation is so vitriolic, inventing new revenue sources AND new expenditures is ridiculous.
I too was an Eagle Scout. Boy Scouts was hugely important to me for my teen years. But no longer.
You know when that stopped? When the BSA started selling off land to fund it's legal fight in the name of bigotry. Donated land, long held as fundamental to the teachings and skills that were a part of scouting, being lost to discriminate against gays, and non Christians.
You can claim that there's no religious bias, and amusingly go on to say that you had three different kinds of Christians in your troop as evidence, but that doesn't change facts. Because of all the lawsuits they've had to define things more clearly and now brag that they even have Jews and Muslims! Yeehaw, that is enlightened! And, the Atheism part - well, the charter says that anything goes, including individually defined spirituality, to which I'll say not believing in sky magic is well defined. But then, my troop was like yours, and every "non-denominational" service we were required to attend had bible readings. But, it is true that they were not as pushy as the Jehovah's Witnesses that knock on my door. Maybe we should call that "institutionalized".
Going to simply dismiss your straw man that all gay men are perceived as pedophiles.
Now, I got a lot out of Scouting. I learned great skills and leadership. I was a counselor for a few years at a leadership camp for older scouts. I gave a huge amount of time to Order of the Arrow. I gained confidence in my ability to do anything in the mountains I would want or need to do. My Eagle Scout project literally changed my life.
But, I see less of that when I look now. I see a lot of lame, half assed Eagle projects. Really, you built a fence around a shed behind your church? That's of great benefit to the community? I see a lot less emphasis on learning survival and wilderness preparedness, and a whole lot more practicing talking points on bigoted rhetoric. You want to pretend that there are people that don't believe in a God, fine, but when you're removing a social outlet and developmental resource from a child simply for having conviction in his own understanding of the universe, you're no longer a great service organization, you're just an individual asshole. Sure, they're within their strictest legal right, and have payed fortunes to defend that, but I refuse to pretend they're a great organization for boys.
You know what is not a compromise? Realizing that a 1911 version of the world isn't the ideal case and perceptions change.
It's been 10 years since Steven Spielberg took a stand, and you're still repeating the bullshit.
http://www.hollywood.com/news/Spielberg_resigns_from_Boy_Scouts_board/386418
the whois for seeread.info shows an address in Austin. The Level Up seems to only exist in Boston, NYC, Philly, and SF. Why's he snooping things so far outside his geographic purview?
I can't believe this question wasn't posed AC. Someone thinks their cleverness is going to equal fame. Instead it might equal jail.
Commenting to erase mistaken mod. Thanks for the link though.
I gather that he changed the handle, but it's the same account (followers were conserved then), rather than starting a fresh account. An important distinction I hadn't realized but am glad to have learned.