1) this program must not be used to place *any* restriction upon the rights of any person or group of persons to reverse-engineer Microsoft System Behavior; and perhaps (2) that to assist in re-establishing a competitive marketplace, Microsoft should be required to release all of this information to the general public
I agree. Let's also do (3)
For any RFC that Microsoft contributed too, make the WindowsAPI call to that RFC protocol become Open in the best sense, to release all of it back into the public domain or GPL, including any RPC calls going on in the background.
At least that may help us patch the holes (in WM_ Shatter) that were brought up by Jim Allchillin's remark's.
Geeez. Those guys. . .
I don't consider myself a full-on security guru, but from my experience, Immunix has a very good track record. Crispin Cowen has published many white papers concerning the stackguard compiler and how it will prevent buffer overflow attacks. Combine this with FormatGuard, and a resonable price ($100, free for non-commercial use. Check it out at http://wirex.com/Products/Immunix/purchase.html.
Don't forget to use Bastille to harden it after you install. Or you could do it manually, than you will need to remove SUID crap, use CHATTR to make your critical conf files immutible, and many, many other tricks. You can read about it http://www.bastille-linux.org/. Hope that helps.
So I finally got all three ISO's DL'd by 9 PM last night. Tucked in the missus and slunk down to the den where the dual celeron 533 / 256 Mb / nVidia Gforce awaited my fresh meat like a hungry lion.
Next thing I booted up with disk 1, and the installer came up with a dialog (install from FTP/HTTP/CDROM/HD). I was going to upgrade from Mandrake 8.2, but the RPM database update took too long, so screw it. Hit reset. Repartition and blow it away. Format, check for bad blocks, select individual packages. I installed most of the workstation goodies, and GNOME as my WM. XFree 3.3.6 had 3D support. This is a media PC, hooked up to the stereo, and by 10:30 had a nice little desktop going. Moz 1.0, GNOME 2.0, no OpenOffice, nothing fancy, but very stable, and XMMS works like a champ. Grabbed some files and played DJ for a couple of hours today. Schwweet.
BTW, did anyone else see that Senator Tom Daschle posted a comment on/.? If that's true, kudos to you sir. You are the first U.S. Senator I have seen posting on Slashdot, and I tip my hat to you. I wish our other elected officials had your
guts to offer their views on this type of forum.
On a slightly off-topic note, how many goverments around the world are investigating Open Source? Britian, Peru, China, Russia, Norway, all this year. Seems like there is a wind of change blowing through many goverments. Maybe our goverment (USA) may want to investigate as well.
Amiga: Cars that were years ahead of their time, and you don't see many on the road as the
manufacturer has gone out of business and parts are hard to come by.
Apple OS X: Looks great, but You could only get accessories for it if they were made by Apple.
BSD: Their cars ran really well, but the only mechanic that knows how to work on them is 500 miles
away.
IBM AS/400: Your couldn't buy a car but only lease one, it would come with your own mechanic, and
would cost around a million per year.
IBM OS/2: You could buy one if you are lucky enough to find one, but It never went anywhere.
IRIX: Their cars would blow the doors off all the others, if you could ever find a gas station.
QNX: You couldn't buy a car, only find the demo car, and that just had a projection of scenery
moving across the windshield.
RedHat Linux: You had a choice of sports car, station wagon, mini-van, or 18-wheel tractor trailer.
You could design your own if you wish to, but most people gave up when it came to picking from the
2000 different accessories.
Sun Solaris: Their cars would have a least two engines, with up to 32 engines, and they would
weigh 400 tons, but once they got moving, they were hard as hell to stop.
Last but not least: Microsoft: Just Where did You think You were going today?
The user base (as in desktops) is a real issue. Look at the percentages (1% of the desktops?) A buddy, when asked if he wanted to try Linux just pointed out a valid problems for widespread adoption: there is a lack of shrink wrapped applications joe six-pack can buy at Fry's or Staples for Linux. There is a lack of commercial software for Linux right now.
On the servers, that's another story. I guess installed base is running around 25% to 35% in the glass rooms around the world. IDC expects Linux to overtake Windows servers market share by 2006.
I have used the best tool for the job at hand and try to be fair and un-biased when recommending anything to clients. Don't be a zelot. Use common sense when recommending a paticular OS for a job.
Some people's tactics may be a bit over the top. Relax. I say just Burn Your EULA. Boycott M$.
Santa Cruz, Ca. reporting. Ready for orders.
I think we need a good old fashoned barn raising blow out. Burn your EULA. Boycott Microsoft.
See you on July 4 th at a school near you.
Do the servers first. Use stable no-nonsense apps like Samba, Bind, Sendmail, and go with a stable distro. I have used Redhat and had good support. After a while like that, when you feel ready, you can fire up some clients to test with. Get feedback early on about what works and what needs work from real users. Go back and retool. Rinse and Repeat.
Then after some time, make a cost benefit analysis of your own. Tweak the numbers. Figure in support costs. Codeweaver licences are 50 bucks a seat. Add in anything like unforseen funds for any incidentals, like bringing in a heavy Linux Guru. Don't try to short change a major conversion.
Then show it to your boss. This is the ammo he/she needs to sell it to the top managment.
My buddies and I were watching the Giants game and the bldg shoook for a few secs. Then the anncr on TV said " the earth just shook". And then at the end of the game he mentioned we had had an earthquake.
I was in downtown Santa Cruz during the 1989 quake that leveled most of Santa Cruz and I'll never forget it. This one wasn't anything as strong. more like a aftershock from the 89.
It is possible to duplicate an M$ Echange server with lots of stuff out in the Linux world. I haven't used them all but Bynari TradeServer and Communigate Pro come to mind. I can
The last place I worked I set up a Linux box with Apache, LDAP, Samba, and Sendmail. I used both IMAP and POP3 to connect Outlook clients running in Internet Only mode. The users shared thier Free/Busy files on a Samba share. I set the Outlook clients to publish and search their.vfb files to the same shared folder. Worked like a charm for those wishing to set up meetings with others. I also set up shared calenders with the main phone person to do a group calender for our deparment. Save as a web page to same server. Everone could see if someone had the day off, was in class, or on the road. All you had to do is bookmark it. It Worked Good. For a address book we coded a script to pull a CSV list from the AS/400 used by payroll. Fresh Address Book Daily on demand. It was formatted to import directly into Outlook. That worked well, but I left before I coded a LDAP import.
Bottem line is Suits still use Outlook and Office. I still think we can show a major ROI by useing OSS tools to replace MS in the glass house. Too many companies still can't relace their desktop OS at all, time is too important. They want something to set up fast and go.
It looks like Ximin wants to sell a M$ Exchange MAPI connnector for Evolution.I say, Good for them. The fat MAPI cliient is a bit more complicated, is a bitch to code for, and must have taken a few months to get working. Kudos.
Hopefully most businesses will see they don't need M$ in the server room, and then they will try it on the desktop.
My 2 cents.
XP pro looks for a time server upon boot up. Also a multicast server, and lots of others i can't id the posts with cheops or etherape.
I guess it wants to talk to the mothership [: ]
Anyone else see that??
IP's available upon request.
Slashdot Mirror
Why should governments (and people) across the world choose Open Source?
Freedom - Linux and the General Public Licence (GPL) frees you from the chains of software licensing
Control - You are no longer forced into a never-ending cycle of "upgrades"
Growth - Linux makes available the tools and applications that enable you to expand
Security - Witness the hundreds of Windows Security Alerts at CERT
Stability- Up months at a time without a crash or need for rebooting
Customization - immense flexibility
Lower Costs - You can control costs by eliminating license fees, and reducing the cost of your software upgrade cycles.
Linux isn't free. Linux is Freedom.
1) this program must not be used to place *any* restriction upon the rights of any person or group of persons to reverse-engineer Microsoft System Behavior; and perhaps (2) that to assist in re-establishing a competitive marketplace, Microsoft should be required to release all of this information to the general public I agree. Let's also do (3) For any RFC that Microsoft contributed too, make the WindowsAPI call to that RFC protocol become Open in the best sense, to release all of it back into the public domain or GPL, including any RPC calls going on in the background. At least that may help us patch the holes (in WM_ Shatter) that were brought up by Jim Allchillin's remark's. Geeez. Those guys. . .
I don't consider myself a full-on security guru, but from my experience, Immunix has a very good track record. Crispin Cowen has published many white papers concerning the stackguard compiler and how it will prevent buffer overflow attacks. Combine this with FormatGuard, and a resonable price ($100, free for non-commercial use. Check it out at http://wirex.com/Products/Immunix/purchase.html.
Don't forget to use Bastille to harden it after you install. Or you could do it manually, than you will need to remove SUID crap, use CHATTR to make your critical conf files immutible, and many, many other tricks. You can read about it http://www.bastille-linux.org/. Hope that helps.
Right on! Right now I just wanted to kick the tires on a stock ML install. No 3D games right now, just a music box.
Thanks fur the tip. I will try it later.
MLHSo I finally got all three ISO's DL'd by 9 PM last night. Tucked in the missus and slunk down to the den where the dual celeron 533 / 256 Mb / nVidia Gforce awaited my fresh meat like a hungry lion.
Next thing I booted up with disk 1, and the installer came up with a dialog (install from FTP/HTTP/CDROM/HD). I was going to upgrade from Mandrake 8.2, but the RPM database update took too long, so screw it. Hit reset. Repartition and blow it away. Format, check for bad blocks, select individual packages. I installed most of the workstation goodies, and GNOME as my WM. XFree 3.3.6 had 3D support. This is a media PC, hooked up to the stereo, and by 10:30 had a nice little desktop going. Moz 1.0, GNOME 2.0, no OpenOffice, nothing fancy, but very stable, and XMMS works like a champ. Grabbed some files and played DJ for a couple of hours today. Schwweet.
BTW, did anyone else see that Senator Tom Daschle posted a comment onOn a slightly off-topic note, how many goverments around the world are investigating Open Source? Britian, Peru, China, Russia, Norway, all this year. Seems like there is a wind of change blowing through many goverments. Maybe our goverment (USA) may want to investigate as well.
Amiga: Cars that were years ahead of their time, and you don't see many on the road as the manufacturer has gone out of business and parts are hard to come by.
Apple OS X: Looks great, but You could only get accessories for it if they were made by Apple.
BSD: Their cars ran really well, but the only mechanic that knows how to work on them is 500 miles away.
IBM AS/400: Your couldn't buy a car but only lease one, it would come with your own mechanic, and would cost around a million per year.
IBM OS/2: You could buy one if you are lucky enough to find one, but It never went anywhere.
IRIX: Their cars would blow the doors off all the others, if you could ever find a gas station.
QNX: You couldn't buy a car, only find the demo car, and that just had a projection of scenery moving across the windshield.
RedHat Linux: You had a choice of sports car, station wagon, mini-van, or 18-wheel tractor trailer. You could design your own if you wish to, but most people gave up when it came to picking from the 2000 different accessories.
Sun Solaris: Their cars would have a least two engines, with up to 32 engines, and they would weigh 400 tons, but once they got moving, they were hard as hell to stop.
Last but not least: Microsoft: Just Where did You think You were going today?
The user base (as in desktops) is a real issue. Look at the percentages (1% of the desktops?) A buddy, when asked if he wanted to try Linux just pointed out a valid problems for widespread adoption: there is a lack of shrink wrapped applications joe six-pack can buy at Fry's or Staples for Linux. There is a lack of commercial software for Linux right now.
On the servers, that's another story. I guess installed base is running around 25% to 35% in the glass rooms around the world. IDC expects Linux to overtake Windows servers market share by 2006.
I have used the best tool for the job at hand and try to be fair and un-biased when recommending anything to clients. Don't be a zelot. Use common sense when recommending a paticular OS for a job.
Some people's tactics may be a bit over the top. Relax. I say just Burn Your EULA. Boycott M$.
Another poster said it very well here:
Por qué Utilice Linux? Linux es libertad. Linux is FREEDOM!
The Revolution will not be televised.Why use Linux? Not because Linux is free, but because Linux is Freedom.
Never Mind , I found someone to do that too. Go to Hell instead.. Bye.
Fuck Microsoft - Burn Your EULA Suck My Dick Bill
So what is GameSpy? All I can see so far is a battle over EULA's. What does GameSPy do fer me?
Santa Cruz, Ca. reporting. Ready for orders. I think we need a good old fashoned barn raising blow out. Burn your EULA. Boycott Microsoft. See you on July 4 th at a school near you.
Do the servers first. Use stable no-nonsense apps like Samba, Bind, Sendmail, and go with a stable distro. I have used Redhat and had good support. After a while like that, when you feel ready, you can fire up some clients to test with. Get feedback early on about what works and what needs work from real users. Go back and retool. Rinse and Repeat.
Then after some time, make a cost benefit analysis of your own. Tweak the numbers. Figure in support costs. Codeweaver licences are 50 bucks a seat. Add in anything like unforseen funds for any incidentals, like bringing in a heavy Linux Guru. Don't try to short change a major conversion.
Then show it to your boss. This is the ammo he/she needs to sell it to the top managment.
Good Luck.
My buddies and I were watching the Giants game and the bldg shoook for a few secs. Then the anncr on TV said " the earth just shook". And then at the end of the game he mentioned we had had an earthquake. I was in downtown Santa Cruz during the 1989 quake that leveled most of Santa Cruz and I'll never forget it. This one wasn't anything as strong. more like a aftershock from the 89.
It is possible to duplicate an M$ Echange server with lots of stuff out in the Linux world. I haven't used them all but Bynari TradeServer and Communigate Pro come to mind. I can The last place I worked I set up a Linux box with Apache, LDAP, Samba, and Sendmail. I used both IMAP and POP3 to connect Outlook clients running in Internet Only mode. The users shared thier Free/Busy files on a Samba share. I set the Outlook clients to publish and search their .vfb files to the same shared folder. Worked like a charm for those wishing to set up meetings with others. I also set up shared calenders with the main phone person to do a group calender for our deparment. Save as a web page to same server. Everone could see if someone had the day off, was in class, or on the road. All you had to do is bookmark it. It Worked Good. For a address book we coded a script to pull a CSV list from the AS/400 used by payroll. Fresh Address Book Daily on demand. It was formatted to import directly into Outlook. That worked well, but I left before I coded a LDAP import.
Bottem line is Suits still use Outlook and Office. I still think we can show a major ROI by useing OSS tools to replace MS in the glass house. Too many companies still can't relace their desktop OS at all, time is too important. They want something to set up fast and go.
It looks like Ximin wants to sell a M$ Exchange MAPI connnector for Evolution.I say, Good for them. The fat MAPI cliient is a bit more complicated, is a bitch to code for, and must have taken a few months to get working. Kudos.
Hopefully most businesses will see they don't need M$ in the server room, and then they will try it on the desktop.
My 2 cents.
XP pro looks for a time server upon boot up. Also a multicast server, and lots of others i can't id the posts with cheops or etherape. I guess it wants to talk to the mothership [: ] Anyone else see that?? IP's available upon request.