I'll type slowly..NET is a library of functions designed to replace the COM architecture - to end the 'dll hell', and to promote interoperability through the 'CLR' - common language runtime.
As far as someone like you or I (generally) need to be concerned, its Visual Studio 7. And it doesn't suck. Not like VS6 did.
Is where Microsoft stopped innovating. Whenever you get into a "one-up" cold war...
Really. Like the Wordperfect vs Office battle? Or the IE vs Netscape battle? Or the NT vs OS/2 battle? Or the MSDOS vs PC-DOS battle? More recently, even the XBOX vs Playstation/Nintendo battle, or even.NET vs Java perhaps.
Microsoft has been playing the "one-up" cold war for a lot longer than google has been around, and winning just about every time. But by your metrics, Microsoft stopped innovating long before their obsession with google.
Not being sarcastic at all. Actually I'm a.NET developer, mostly VB I guess. Threw my resume out on monster.com last week, had 2 interviews and more phone calls than I know what to do with. Got an offer for 20 grand more than I'm currently making, figure I'll take it. I am amazed at the job opportunities out there for.NET right now (which is the reason for my previous comment)
I'm in the Minneapolis area but am willing to relocate, and I do like Madison. I'd say I'm mid-level, certainly not a beginner (been doing.NET for 5 years, programming for 10) but I wouldn't call myself a guru either.
So if you want a resume or something, let me know your email and I'll forward it to ya.
In America you can be seen quickly as long as you're willing to pay. Fine if you can afford it or if your employer gives you health insurance, but if not you're screwed.
really. of course not. but if I happen to own a piece of the network between 2 of your computers, such as a router that traffics between your home computer and your office computer, then I am perfectly free to look at the traffic and act accordingly. Thats the position these university networks are in.
And we both know that they are not interested in the people that casually toss a song somewhere... to draw their attention - a nasty letter generally, you have to be sharing lots and lots of stuff. Think about it, they want to find who is the worst file sharers, they see who is sharing the most britney spears or n sync or whatever. theres plenty of teenagers with lots of bandwidth that probably have no idea they are sharing all 1000+ songs in their collection. and those are the people who get the attention, which again is usually nothing worse than a evil sounding letter in the mail.
and then they are also the least likely to put up a fight in court. if you even know how to set up a home computer network that instantly puts you in the top couple of percent of computer users, and also the ones the RIAA would rather not meet in court... not that they couldn't destroy you easily, but why do that when there are far easier pickings...
but I think you know all that and just went for the +1 obvious comment that really could have been posted on any story regarding file sharing.
and 'keyboard pounding' isn't hard work in the same sense
but i've never experienced the stress levels doing manual labor that I have with doing programming. that will certainly wear you out by the end of the day/week/month/year/decade.
Ha ha ha! Oh gosh that's funny! That's really funny! Do you write your own material? Do you? Because that is so fresh. Incompetent point-and-click jockeys. You know, I've, I've never heard anyone make that joke before. Hmm. You're the first. I've never heard anyone reference, reference that outside the program before. Because that's what she says on the show right? Isn't it? Incompetent point-and-click jockeys. And, and yet you've taken that and used it out of context to insult me in this everyday situation. God what a clever, smart girl you must be, to come up with a joke like that all by yourself. That's so fresh too. Any, any Titanic jokes you want to throw at me too as long as we're hitting these phenomena at the height of their popularity. God you're so funny!
Does a bunch of good stuff, but most importantly it gets rid of that stupid level scaling thing.
I've been involved in some debates over that, and I still maintain its dumb, mostly as it provides no sense of accomplishment to leveling or getting better items or anything.
Let me give you a real world scenario: Customer comes to us requesting a program that manipulates data they already have in their MS Access database. Okay, first of all, yes I could tell them all the reasons that Access sux0rz ands why $OSS_DB_PLATFORM is better. Want to know what would happen next? We wouldn't get the account. In this case, as well as with just about every other case, the customer sets the terms, and if you don't like it they're just going to go find a different vendor.
So we get the account. I give the the project to one of my fresh-out-of-college OSS loving underlings. His solution involved installing Cygwin on the client station, shell this, sudo that, and presto, the data was transformed (after another routine dumped the data out of access, and then it required a re-import on the back end)
effective? sure. useful? debatable. What the customer wanted? not at all. I wrote it in VS, everyone was happy. Including my kids.
Sure, its nice to be able to afford to be an idealist, but in the meantime my kids expect me to provide food.
The above example was real, and has been repeated many many many many times in my career history. The customer sets the terms, if you don't like it they go somewhere else. Sure, once in a while the customer wants to hear about the right way to do things, but thats been less than 1 percent in my experience. Mostly they just want to get the shit done and aren't interested in changing their procedures. at. all.
Oh, and if I had to sell drugs to feed my kids, you're damn right I'd be out there slinging crack.
True, I am only speaking from my own firsthand knowledge as a freelance programmer over the last 8 years or so. 99% of the clients that I take on want thier code done in Visual Studio, mostly for maintainability reasons.
Its probably different in the sysadmin world.
But if you are writing code that is going to be used by end users, its a pretty low chance that its going to be for a non-windows platform.
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I'll type slowly. .NET is a library of functions designed to replace the COM architecture - to end the 'dll hell', and to promote interoperability through the 'CLR' - common language runtime.
As far as someone like you or I (generally) need to be concerned, its Visual Studio 7. And it doesn't suck. Not like VS6 did.
Is where Microsoft stopped innovating. Whenever you get into a "one-up" cold war...
.NET vs Java perhaps.
Really. Like the Wordperfect vs Office battle? Or the IE vs Netscape battle? Or the NT vs OS/2 battle? Or the MSDOS vs PC-DOS battle? More recently, even the XBOX vs Playstation/Nintendo battle, or even
Microsoft has been playing the "one-up" cold war for a lot longer than google has been around, and winning just about every time. But by your metrics, Microsoft stopped innovating long before their obsession with google.
Not being sarcastic at all. Actually I'm a .NET developer, mostly VB I guess. Threw my resume out on monster.com last week, had 2 interviews and more phone calls than I know what to do with. Got an offer for 20 grand more than I'm currently making, figure I'll take it. I am amazed at the job opportunities out there for .NET right now (which is the reason for my previous comment)
.NET for 5 years, programming for 10) but I wouldn't call myself a guru either.
I'm in the Minneapolis area but am willing to relocate, and I do like Madison. I'd say I'm mid-level, certainly not a beginner (been doing
So if you want a resume or something, let me know your email and I'll forward it to ya.
I wish I could write something that is as 'dead' as .NET is. I'd be a billionaire.
In America you can be seen quickly as long as you're willing to pay. Fine if you can afford it or if your employer gives you health insurance, but if not you're screwed.
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I may have had to hunt for a driver or two in XP, but generally it is far more likely that an XP driver exists.
and getting my sound card working in Ubuntu.... I've never experienced anything that was that difficult in XP.
really. of course not. but if I happen to own a piece of the network between 2 of your computers, such as a router that traffics between your home computer and your office computer, then I am perfectly free to look at the traffic and act accordingly. Thats the position these university networks are in.
And we both know that they are not interested in the people that casually toss a song somewhere... to draw their attention - a nasty letter generally, you have to be sharing lots and lots of stuff. Think about it, they want to find who is the worst file sharers, they see who is sharing the most britney spears or n sync or whatever. theres plenty of teenagers with lots of bandwidth that probably have no idea they are sharing all 1000+ songs in their collection. and those are the people who get the attention, which again is usually nothing worse than a evil sounding letter in the mail.
and then they are also the least likely to put up a fight in court. if you even know how to set up a home computer network that instantly puts you in the top couple of percent of computer users, and also the ones the RIAA would rather not meet in court... not that they couldn't destroy you easily, but why do that when there are far easier pickings...
but I think you know all that and just went for the +1 obvious comment that really could have been posted on any story regarding file sharing.
Wouldn't they just tax you when you 'cash out'? Thats where the profits are.
just curious, I can't imagine that they would let you offer the pirated music and movies and then get itunes credit for it...
there's no mention of spam. it seems to be related to putting advertisements inside games, in particular the XBOX.
Surely, it is about more than funding, but I don't think you can say its a just matter of intelligence, primarily.
I'd reckon it falls somewhere in the middle; that its mostly a management issue.
I see in the news how our Justice system is overwhelmed, they have too much work to do, they need more people, more funding, etc...
I can't understand this... OK, so they have the time to do these sorts of things now?
I know that if I attempted such shenanigans in, oh I don't know, reports that got sent to customers I'd likely be reprimanded if not fired.
well I take the shit. and I deal it back equally well. not everything has to be determined by the courts.
and its a very small company, only about 40 people, and 38 of those people are non-technical. all male.
im quite sure this shit wouldn't fly at a larger company. or at one that is well managed, but I digress.
oh, my 'office' consists of a desk in the middle of a busy warehouse. i'm sure life is much different in cubeville.
so someone sucker punches ya. you respond with a flying tackle and a wedgie. its all good.
and 'keyboard pounding' isn't hard work in the same sense
but i've never experienced the stress levels doing manual labor that I have with doing programming. that will certainly wear you out by the end of the day/week/month/year/decade.
I'd be curious to see, because for what they're charging I don't see how theyre not making money
They got John Madden to design it, and every player is Brett Favre.
>open article
Nothing to see here, please move along
>move along
Its Not News, It's Fark.Com!
>disconnect internets
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I tried all three of your samples and did not get the ebay ad returned
Perhaps its targeted advertising somehow? I know I don't have any ebay cookies in my cookie jar.
call me when it can run updates.
are there any viruses out for this thing?
Ha ha ha! Oh gosh that's funny! That's really funny! Do you write your own material? Do you? Because that is so fresh. Incompetent point-and-click jockeys. You know, I've, I've never heard anyone make that joke before. Hmm. You're the first. I've never heard anyone reference, reference that outside the program before. Because that's what she says on the show right? Isn't it? Incompetent point-and-click jockeys. And, and yet you've taken that and used it out of context to insult me in this everyday situation. God what a clever, smart girl you must be, to come up with a joke like that all by yourself. That's so fresh too. Any, any Titanic jokes you want to throw at me too as long as we're hitting these phenomena at the height of their popularity. God you're so funny!
yeah, you would have to start a new game. :(
Oscuro says though that he's done updating that part of it and any new updates will not require a new game.
Considering .NET looks to be the future of windows applications, wouldn't they just implement something like Mono?
Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul
Does a bunch of good stuff, but most importantly it gets rid of that stupid level scaling thing.
I've been involved in some debates over that, and I still maintain its dumb, mostly as it provides no sense of accomplishment to leveling or getting better items or anything.
Well here's the deal... My kids need to eat.
Let me give you a real world scenario:
Customer comes to us requesting a program that manipulates data they already have in their MS Access database. Okay, first of all, yes I could tell them all the reasons that Access sux0rz ands why $OSS_DB_PLATFORM is better. Want to know what would happen next? We wouldn't get the account. In this case, as well as with just about every other case, the customer sets the terms, and if you don't like it they're just going to go find a different vendor.
So we get the account. I give the the project to one of my fresh-out-of-college OSS loving underlings. His solution involved installing Cygwin on the client station, shell this, sudo that, and presto, the data was transformed (after another routine dumped the data out of access, and then it required a re-import on the back end)
effective? sure. useful? debatable. What the customer wanted? not at all. I wrote it in VS, everyone was happy. Including my kids.
Sure, its nice to be able to afford to be an idealist, but in the meantime my kids expect me to provide food.
The above example was real, and has been repeated many many many many times in my career history. The customer sets the terms, if you don't like it they go somewhere else. Sure, once in a while the customer wants to hear about the right way to do things, but thats been less than 1 percent in my experience. Mostly they just want to get the shit done and aren't interested in changing their procedures. at. all.
Oh, and if I had to sell drugs to feed my kids, you're damn right I'd be out there slinging crack.
True, I am only speaking from my own firsthand knowledge as a freelance programmer over the last 8 years or so. 99% of the clients that I take on want thier code done in Visual Studio, mostly for maintainability reasons.
Its probably different in the sysadmin world.
But if you are writing code that is going to be used by end users, its a pretty low chance that its going to be for a non-windows platform.