Qt doesn't care about cross-platform? What sort of crack are you smoking? Windows, Macintosh (including great support for OSX, Embedded Linux (for PDA's, etc..), and of course, X11 (including AIX, FreeBSD, HP-UX, IRIX, Linux, Solaris, Tru64, UnixWare 7, OpenUnix 8) are all supported.
Heck, take a look at some of their success stories.. many of them are on non-'nix platforms. Even Adobe uses Qt for cross platform development.
Don't get me wrong, Java is great for write once, run anywhere, but it'll never match the speed of native code. Qt is 'write once, compile and run anywhere', which gives far superiour performance to Java in graphic-intensive jobs (such as modern DE's).
I'm not a trolltech employee, I just think they make a damn good cross-platform gui toolkit.
I'm not sure why that was moderated 'funny'... it's exactly what Microsoft has already done to Dell for trying to ship Linux. I see no difference here, and I'd be willing to bet that Microsoft will try "discourage" Dell and HP from shipping Sun's Java with Windows.
>Fortunately, Dell and HP, the top 2 PC makers, have
>already decided to ship Java on the PCs that they
>sell.
I wonder how long it will be until Microsoft says to Dell and HP: "If you're going to include Sun's Java, you'll have to pay full retail for every copy of Windows you sell."
wow.. would you like a burning cross.. or perhaps some white sheets?
I work at a large company with people from all races. You simply cannot place every employee into a bucket based on their ethnicity.
Many Indian workers here are very good, some aren't. The same applies to all races, including Caucasian.
However, you cannot ignore that the American school system lags far behind many other countries (including India).. which would make one tend to think that Indian students are better equipped when starting out.
Games aren't everything I do.. perhaps I'll want to read my email, and my MUA of choice (KMail) isn't available in windows.. so I either reboot into Linux or settle for Mozilla. Or.. perhaps I'll get paged and have to do some work. Then I'll have to reboot into Linux for my VPN access to work. Sure -- these things will work in Windows, but I much prefer to use Linux because it's just nicer. It's more stable, and things just seem to work better.
But -- even given all that -- if all I did was played games, I still would cringe every time I boot up Windows. I don't like all the chains that Microsoft throws around its users. I don't like that I have to pay $150 to upgrade my OS and then "Activate" the product. It's just BS that MS can afford because of the tight grip they've got.
a) People that dual-boot. They can already play this in Windows. Little reason to use Linux to play UT2003.
You, being a Linux user, should realize how false this is.
I'm a perfect example of the opposite. At home, my primary use for my PC is gaming. For this very reason I have Windows installed. Howerver, I detest the OS.. any chance I get to use Linux, I do. My GRUB is configured to boot linux by default, even though I use Windows most of the time while playing games.
I do this so that it forces me to try to find an alternative the the Microsoft Bull*@&#. I love linux, it's so much more flexible and much more of a pleasure to use.
Just for this reason, I traded out my Radeon 8500 card for a nVidea Geforce 4 Ti.. because there's better 3d support in linux for it.. and because I'll be able to move one more thing over to Linux (UT2003).
Some people use Windows because the only choices they have are
1) Don't do what they want (eg. play that game)
or
2) Use windows.
Every time I move something over onto my linux partition, I'm a little happier for it.
This seems impossible to implement.
The only way that this was done in the past was by forcing the users to use a particular web browser with the dial-up service. If this is the approach you're referring to, you would limit your target audience severly.
Keep in mind that only a part of network activity is web-based, and many people will probably not want to use the browser you choose.
So.. this is probably way off topic.. but.. what do people recommend for converting a huge mp3 library to ogg? I don't want to have to re-encode all of my CDs....
Anyone who thinks that "working more hours" will provide better output ought to read the Mythical Man Month. I think it should be a prerequisite to any managerial position.
8 hour days are so because that's the maximum point of output.. anything more than that and quality starts to go down. Of course it's different for different people, but 6 - 8 hours is an average.
Heh -- you must be living, with me, in the wonderful SF Bay area. Yeah -- $200,000 is ghetto here. Expect to pay $750,000 for anything decent.
And, what's even better, here in the middle of silicon-valley, the heart of the tech revolution, I can't get DSL!! Oh sure, iDSL.. but 144k is marginally better that a 56k modem.
I digress -- The reason iDSL is the only thing available is because Pacific Bell refuses to let other providers use their copper. Covad got in, somehow, which is the only reason I can even get iDSL.
Eh.. maybe it's time to get that T1 and charge my neighbors for wireless access.
Heh -- I think the same thing applies to Sony's minidisc. It was a great technology, but Sony has the bad habbit of keeping everything proprietary. Who would want to invest in a media format that is owned by someone who holds the only rights to make the readers/writers? Minidisc is great, and sony makes good stuff, but I would never buy it because I don't want to get locked into a Sony-only world.
That's right, Mozilla's rendering engine is at least as fast as Opera's "fastest on earth."
Yeah -- I've noticed this too. However, I think the real "speed" of Opera comes in when you've got a low-powered machine. I don't really notice any difference with my P4 1.6.. but if you compare it with a Pentium/P2 or Ultra 10, you'll see that Opera is quite a bit faster.
I believe he was referring to hardware-accelerated drivers (DRI/OpenGL). And -- XFree4.2 does not contain them.
However, there are drivers in the works for the r200 chipset (what the Radeon 8500 uses) at the DRI site. I believe the development is being funded by the weather channel.
At any rate, I've used these alpha drivers on my 8500, they work pretty well -- not as fast as the windows drivers, but they did seem quite stable, and they ran Unreal Tournament very well.
Uhh.. since when is SunOS (ie Solaris) BSD?
Qt doesn't care about cross-platform? What sort of crack are you smoking? Windows, Macintosh (including great support for OSX, Embedded Linux (for PDA's, etc..), and of course, X11 (including AIX, FreeBSD, HP-UX, IRIX, Linux, Solaris, Tru64, UnixWare 7, OpenUnix 8) are all supported.
Heck, take a look at some of their success stories.. many of them are on non-'nix platforms. Even Adobe uses Qt for cross platform development.
Don't get me wrong, Java is great for write once, run anywhere, but it'll never match the speed of native code. Qt is 'write once, compile and run anywhere', which gives far superiour performance to Java in graphic-intensive jobs (such as modern DE's).
I'm not a trolltech employee, I just think they make a damn good cross-platform gui toolkit.
I'm pretty sure that's the Bitstream Vera Sans. Very nice fonts, if you haven't seen them yet:
check them out.
I'm not sure why that was moderated 'funny'... it's exactly what Microsoft has already done to Dell for trying to ship Linux. I see no difference here, and I'd be willing to bet that Microsoft will try "discourage" Dell and HP from shipping Sun's Java with Windows.
>Fortunately, Dell and HP, the top 2 PC makers, have >already decided to ship Java on the PCs that they >sell. I wonder how long it will be until Microsoft says to Dell and HP: "If you're going to include Sun's Java, you'll have to pay full retail for every copy of Windows you sell."
..."given that Cupertino was a totally excellent place to work, and Santa Clara most assuredly isn't..."
Hmmm.. I've been in the cupertino buildings.. and I currently work in the SCA (Agnews) buildings..
I can testify that the SCA buildings are far nicer to work in.
wow.. would you like a burning cross.. or perhaps some white sheets?
I work at a large company with people from all races. You simply cannot place every employee into a bucket based on their ethnicity.
Many Indian workers here are very good, some aren't. The same applies to all races, including Caucasian.
However, you cannot ignore that the American school system lags far behind many other countries (including India).. which would make one tend to think that Indian students are better equipped when starting out.
Indeed! I was the one who posted the article, however the new bit on the end was NOT by me.. and I did NOT put a doubleclick link in my article.
/. trying to make a few bucks?
Is someone at
I installed a wireless gyroscopic mouse for an instructor in my university in 1996. This was in California, the mouse was a logitech.
Games aren't everything I do.. perhaps I'll want to read my email, and my MUA of choice (KMail) isn't available in windows.. so I either reboot into Linux or settle for Mozilla. Or.. perhaps I'll get paged and have to do some work. Then I'll have to reboot into Linux for my VPN access to work. Sure -- these things will work in Windows, but I much prefer to use Linux because it's just nicer. It's more stable, and things just seem to work better.
But -- even given all that -- if all I did was played games, I still would cringe every time I boot up Windows. I don't like all the chains that Microsoft throws around its users. I don't like that I have to pay $150 to upgrade my OS and then "Activate" the product. It's just BS that MS can afford because of the tight grip they've got.
</RANT> Ok, ok.. I could go on forever....
a) People that dual-boot. They can already play this in Windows. Little reason to use Linux to play UT2003.
You, being a Linux user, should realize how false this is.
I'm a perfect example of the opposite. At home, my primary use for my PC is gaming. For this very reason I have Windows installed. Howerver, I detest the OS.. any chance I get to use Linux, I do. My GRUB is configured to boot linux by default, even though I use Windows most of the time while playing games.
I do this so that it forces me to try to find an alternative the the Microsoft Bull*@&#. I love linux, it's so much more flexible and much more of a pleasure to use.
Just for this reason, I traded out my Radeon 8500 card for a nVidea Geforce 4 Ti.. because there's better 3d support in linux for it.. and because I'll be able to move one more thing over to Linux (UT2003).
Some people use Windows because the only choices they have are
1) Don't do what they want (eg. play that game)
or
2) Use windows.
Every time I move something over onto my linux partition, I'm a little happier for it.
This seems impossible to implement.
The only way that this was done in the past was by forcing the users to use a particular web browser with the dial-up service. If this is the approach you're referring to, you would limit your target audience severly.
Keep in mind that only a part of network activity is web-based, and many people will probably not want to use the browser you choose.
call me an idiot, but it made perfect sense to me.
and it was funny. And 3 moderators seemed to think so as well.
So.. this is probably way off topic.. but.. what do people recommend for converting a huge mp3 library to ogg? I don't want to have to re-encode all of my CDs....
Anyone who thinks that "working more hours" will provide better output ought to read the Mythical Man Month. I think it should be a prerequisite to any managerial position.
8 hour days are so because that's the maximum point of output.. anything more than that and quality starts to go down. Of course it's different for different people, but 6 - 8 hours is an average.
Or the waltz? Quickstep? Tango? Cha-cha?
Eh -- I think DDR is great -- it gives the otherwise-tranced-into-everquest kids some excersize. God knows most americans need it.
Well.. you would live here because the average salary for tech jobs is $85k per year... which more then pays for the pricy housing.
And it's not a bad place to live; lots of things to do; lots of culture; lots of tolerance.
Heh -- you must be living, with me, in the wonderful SF Bay area. Yeah -- $200,000 is ghetto here. Expect to pay $750,000 for anything decent.
.. maybe it's time to get that T1 and charge my neighbors for wireless access.
And, what's even better, here in the middle of silicon-valley, the heart of the tech revolution, I can't get DSL!! Oh sure, iDSL.. but 144k is marginally better that a 56k modem.
I digress -- The reason iDSL is the only thing available is because Pacific Bell refuses to let other providers use their copper. Covad got in, somehow, which is the only reason I can even get iDSL.
Eh
Heh -- I think the same thing applies to Sony's minidisc. It was a great technology, but Sony has the bad habbit of keeping everything proprietary. Who would want to invest in a media format that is owned by someone who holds the only rights to make the readers/writers? Minidisc is great, and sony makes good stuff, but I would never buy it because I don't want to get locked into a Sony-only world.
A little Microsoft-ish?
Exactly.
And.. what's more, they don't totally destroy it. They will disassemble it and re-use some of the components.
That's right, Mozilla's rendering engine is at least as fast as Opera's "fastest on earth."
Yeah -- I've noticed this too. However, I think the real "speed" of Opera comes in when you've got a low-powered machine. I don't really notice any difference with my P4 1.6.. but if you compare it with a Pentium/P2 or Ultra 10, you'll see that Opera is quite a bit faster.
Unfortunately, yes. Opera 6.x on Linux was very buggy.. especially with Javascript. Opera 5.x was more stable, and imho, faster.
;)
On windows 6.x is great -- but who wants to make that sacrifice?
what worries me most:
what when it's the new standard?
must pay to send mail
I believe he was referring to hardware-accelerated drivers (DRI/OpenGL). And -- XFree4.2 does not contain them.
However, there are drivers in the works for the r200 chipset (what the Radeon 8500 uses) at the DRI site. I believe the development is being funded by the weather channel.
At any rate, I've used these alpha drivers on my 8500, they work pretty well -- not as fast as the windows drivers, but they did seem quite stable, and they ran Unreal Tournament very well.