What I don't understand is how the Slashdot editors continue to let his sh#@ get front page. It's just a huge troll article and the outcome is always the same. Can't the./ ed's see that? Why do they keep posting this crap?
Strange to me to have all this talk about Java, and the "Steaming cup-o-joe" icon for this story when JDS has NOTHING to do with Java.
Other than the fact that it's assembled by Sun so they have the right to stamp "Java" onto it.. as they've done with many of their recent C/C++ offerings.
I'm using a GeForce Ti 4800 with the latest nVidia driver (the proprietary closed-source driver which works great) with twinview enabled. I've got xinerama enabled and KDE 3.3 (and 3.2 and 3.1 for that matter) work great. Maximize only goes to one monitor, etc.
Of course this is on Fedora Core 2, not Gentoo.. so your milage may vary.
Some incorrect information here (mostly from ignorance):
No command-line editing: It's an SVR4 Unix -- it has all the tools that any other SVR4 Unix flavor has. Just because you saw some windows consultant playing with Solaris doesn't mean that it's a bad OS.
pkg has its strengths, some of which are better than RPM. Your post shows that you've very rarely used it, so you not would know.
I very seriously doubt that solaris ran slower than debian on a SPARC platform. You were probably seeing slowness in GUI performance -- solaris isn't a desktop OS. As for the color depth, a simple man search would have given you the answer: ffbconfig
The default desktop is not CDE anymore -- it's GNOME.
It seems that most of your experience with computers (and your complaints) are from a desktop perspective. I agree -- solaris is pretty bad on the desktop. However, Solaris is very strong (and proven) in a server environment.
As many others have already pointed out, this was a design flaw. Apparently there is some disconnect from the user (client) and the developer. The developer is creating something different from what the user is expecting, wasting lots of time.
If the above isn't true, then the developer hasn't created a valid requirements spec which can be shown to the user to explain the difference between "crap product X" and "your product".
Needless -- it sounds liek the client/user isn't being involved nearly enough.. where's the ongoing UAT?
That was exactly going to be my recommendation. At a previous employment, I was faced with a very similar situation. It took me a few days but I came to the decision that I would not continue to work in such an environment. The next day I told my manager that if I was forced to use an OS which limits my abilities as an employee, I would no longer continue my position. He was surprised and amazed, but took it seriously -- my coworkers and I were allowed to keep our environments.
I eventually left for other reasons. Quitting is always an option. It probably won't net you the same outcome, but I would never stay at such a blinded company.
Yeah -- I'd buy a Dual 2Ghz-G5 with 8 Gigs of ram and a half terrabyte of disc if I was making 100 million off stock sales. Hell -- I calculate that price tag to be only a mere $8475 (without displays -- which would add another $2000 per display).
Mr. Joy is missing the point. No one is saying that Mac hardware/software is crap. It's just waay out of the spending range for mere mortals... which is perhaps the biggest reason why Linux is such a "cultural phenomenon and a business phenomenon" -- we don't all have $10,000 to blow on a pretty desktop.
Don't get me wrong -- I think Bill Joy has fully earned his money -- he made some great career and life decisions, now he's enjoying the rewards.. more power to him!
Hmm.. have you seen the groupware solution in KDE3.2? Kontact, which integrates KMail, Korganizer, KAddressbook, etc. I find it much nicer to use then Evolution.
The key word here is not "security", it's "privacy". Here's what this bill really means:
In the current 9 year-old suing world of the RIAA, victims are found by firing up Kazaa (or Grokster or [insert your favorite gnutella-like p2p client here]) and seeing who is sharing and who is downloading. The "who" is given by the IP address of the P2P client computer. Now.. that doesn't really do the RIAA any good because they cannot sue an IP address. So they bully smaller, weaker ISP's into giving out their private customer information. Thus an IP address leads to a name.
Here comes the problem. Some ISP's aren't buying it. Some are saying "our customer privacy is more important than your rampage". This bill makes it so that the clients have "agreed" that they are not annonymous, and that the federal government has the right to grab your personal information and hand it over to the RIAA as they see fit (or just allow the RIAA to grab the now-non-private personal information directly from the ISP). What's more, you cannot counter-sue for privacy infringment because you've agreed to this (since you're using this software that has these statements embedded, and it's all part of the EULA).
Slashdot Mirror
Hmm.. I've heard otherwise.
Indeed, completely correct.
./ ed's see that? Why do they keep posting this crap?
What I don't understand is how the Slashdot editors continue to let his sh#@ get front page. It's just a huge troll article and the outcome is always the same. Can't the
Strange to me to have all this talk about Java, and the "Steaming cup-o-joe" icon for this story when JDS has NOTHING to do with Java. Other than the fact that it's assembled by Sun so they have the right to stamp "Java" onto it .. as they've done with many of their recent C/C++ offerings.
From the article:
"... but we can't then turn around and be part of the open-source Samba project, and make Samba actually work."
I wasn't aware that Samba didn't work.
Seems to work fine for me.
I always thought 'BFG'[9000] was an acronym for something else ......
beh.. MMO is a waste of time.
I'll never, ever pay a monthly subscription fee to play a game.
Holy Shit! Was that English?
because it won't be for linux.
Hmm.. that's interesting.
I'm using a GeForce Ti 4800 with the latest nVidia driver (the proprietary closed-source driver which works great) with twinview enabled. I've got xinerama enabled and KDE 3.3 (and 3.2 and 3.1 for that matter) work great. Maximize only goes to one monitor, etc.
Of course this is on Fedora Core 2, not Gentoo.. so your milage may vary.
No -- this is not a dupe. Read the version numbers carefully.
- No command-line editing: It's an SVR4 Unix -- it has all the tools that any other SVR4 Unix flavor has. Just because you saw some windows consultant playing with Solaris doesn't mean that it's a bad OS.
- pkg has its strengths, some of which are better than RPM. Your post shows that you've very rarely used it, so you not would know.
- I very seriously doubt that solaris ran slower than debian on a SPARC platform. You were probably seeing slowness in GUI performance -- solaris isn't a desktop OS. As for the color depth, a simple man search would have given you the answer: ffbconfig
- The default desktop is not CDE anymore -- it's GNOME.
It seems that most of your experience with computers (and your complaints) are from a desktop perspective. I agree -- solaris is pretty bad on the desktop. However, Solaris is very strong (and proven) in a server environment.I think you mean Sun Ray, not sunblade.
Ah -- indeed you are correct. I didn't notice that -- sorry for the confusion.
No -- it's not.
As many others have already pointed out, this was a design flaw. Apparently there is some disconnect from the user (client) and the developer. The developer is creating something different from what the user is expecting, wasting lots of time.
If the above isn't true, then the developer hasn't created a valid requirements spec which can be shown to the user to explain the difference between "crap product X" and "your product". Needless -- it sounds liek the client/user isn't being involved nearly enough.. where's the ongoing UAT?
Can you post some details about your install? (did you have FC1 prior, dual booting? Did you upgrade? Fresh install?)
I've been a long time user of RedHat and FC, but this bug is too nasty -- I don't think I'm going to upgrade my FC1 boxes until this bug is fixed.
Uhh -- what? How about: "when's the last time you used NFS? OpenOffice?"
Like it or not, Sun is a big contributor to open source.
That was exactly going to be my recommendation. At a previous employment, I was faced with a very similar situation. It took me a few days but I came to the decision that I would not continue to work in such an environment. The next day I told my manager that if I was forced to use an OS which limits my abilities as an employee, I would no longer continue my position. He was surprised and amazed, but took it seriously -- my coworkers and I were allowed to keep our environments.
I eventually left for other reasons. Quitting is always an option. It probably won't net you the same outcome, but I would never stay at such a blinded company.
Yeah -- I'd buy a Dual 2Ghz-G5 with 8 Gigs of ram and a half terrabyte of disc if I was making 100 million off stock sales. Hell -- I calculate that price tag to be only a mere $8475 (without displays -- which would add another $2000 per display).
Mr. Joy is missing the point. No one is saying that Mac hardware/software is crap. It's just waay out of the spending range for mere mortals... which is perhaps the biggest reason why Linux is such a "cultural phenomenon and a business phenomenon" -- we don't all have $10,000 to blow on a pretty desktop.
Don't get me wrong -- I think Bill Joy has fully earned his money -- he made some great career and life decisions, now he's enjoying the rewards.. more power to him!
Nah -- I'm sure that sauron, being pure evil, would use MSN Instant Messenger.
Just a hunch though.
A little off topic.. but here goes: Does anyone know if there's a bittorent client that supports proxies (either http or socks)?
Hmm.. have you seen the groupware solution in KDE3.2? Kontact, which integrates KMail, Korganizer, KAddressbook, etc. I find it much nicer to use then Evolution.
... Or the nice little "Don't load external references" feature of KMail.
The key word here is not "security", it's "privacy". Here's what this bill really means:
In the current 9 year-old suing world of the RIAA, victims are found by firing up Kazaa (or Grokster or [insert your favorite gnutella-like p2p client here]) and seeing who is sharing and who is downloading. The "who" is given by the IP address of the P2P client computer. Now.. that doesn't really do the RIAA any good because they cannot sue an IP address. So they bully smaller, weaker ISP's into giving out their private customer information. Thus an IP address leads to a name.
Here comes the problem. Some ISP's aren't buying it. Some are saying "our customer privacy is more important than your rampage". This bill makes it so that the clients have "agreed" that they are not annonymous, and that the federal government has the right to grab your personal information and hand it over to the RIAA as they see fit (or just allow the RIAA to grab the now-non-private personal information directly from the ISP). What's more, you cannot counter-sue for privacy infringment because you've agreed to this (since you're using this software that has these statements embedded, and it's all part of the EULA).
indeed.. this has been around for a long time ..
Just look at the googlewhack link that was posted.. there's stuff there from January 2002.
How exactly can you encrypt something, and have it decrypted on a device which has no CPU or way of running a decryption algorithm?