Blake Stowell, SCO's director of communications, acknowledged that the leaked memo is real.
But, Stowell claimed, pundits had mischaracterized the memo's context. "We believe the e-mail was simply a misunderstanding of the facts by an outside consultant who was working on a specific unrelated project to the BayStar transaction and he was told at the time of his misunderstanding. Contrary to the speculation of Eric Raymond, Microsoft did not orchestrate or participate in the BayStar transaction."
First off this has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. Secondly did anyone even bother to read the memo before posting this on slashdot?!
I don't know about the way other companies get run, but usually when a Broker/Consultant (Mike Anderer) is writing a summary of issues to the VP(Chris Sontag) of the company he is contracting for, he takes the time to make sure his sentances are READABLE, and will usually run a SPELL CHECKER.
If you read that memo without the green and red blurbs, you'd find that it makes little to no sense whatsoever, and is very ambugious at best.
Here is the alledged memo COPIED AND PASTED without the blurbs added by opesource.org
--- From the mailbox of chris sontag
From: Mike Anderer Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 To: csontag@sco.com CC: Bob Bench Subject: Conversation Friday
Chris:
I know you were going totalk to Bob later Friday, but I figured I would outline the issues.
1) Baystar is easy as they were just a Microsoft referral and would be 2%
2) Any licensing deal would be at 5%
3) Much of the other work would go from 2% to 3% as I have engaged in direct, but this would require according to Bob either Darl or you signing off on the fact that this ane was not a referral.
4) On the patent side for IPX, where foes that fit it. I am working with the lawyers to get these moved from provisional to more complete in the next week. I think it will spawn at least 3 patents. Ed and I are the inventors on these. What do we fo here
5) The RedHat, Acrylis examiniation, there is no upside here is this billable seperatly. I bought a PC and loaded up RedHat and will take that over and work through it with the Lawfirm. What do we do here?
I realize the last negotiations are not as much fun, but Microsoft will have brough in $86 million for us including Baystar. The next deal we should be able to get from $16-20, but it will be brutial as it is for go to makerket work and some licences. I know we can do this , if everyone stays on board and still wants to do a deal. I just want to get this deal and move away from corp dev and out into the marketing andfield dollars....In this market we can get $3-5 million in incremental deals and not have to go through the gauntlet which will get tougher next week with the SR VP's.
We should line up some small acquisitions here to jump start this if we do it. We shoudl also do this ASAP. Microsoft also indicated there was a lot more money out there and they would clearly rather use Baystar "like" entities to help us get signifigantly more money if we want to grow further or do acquisitions
This Microsoft deal is the Ante to the poker game...We should get this done and go after several $2-3 Million deals from the expense side of their company.
The will help us a lot and if we execute we could exit and Unix componients we have build potentially back to Microsoft or MCS.
I think they are on track and may not be able to push much more this round, but there are other ways to get money from them, their partners, investment bank referrals, etc..
Do kepp in mind that they have brough us between $82 million and $86 million if this deal is between $4million per quarter where Rich is at, or it turns into %5 million wjich is the lowest number Chris had interest in.
There will be more, lons, partnerships, etc..but we need to just get this one done. It is too high profile, it is also critical, but they are not the people to pitch. We should get what we can from them ad then work the other and larger areas of the company and groups where they have real budget and need for our help.
Personally I expect flying cars, personal space ships, and starship enterprizes with the amount of money NASA gets from my tax paying dollars....
But if there was life on mars at some point, figuring out what happened to that life, could be important to us in may ways. For one, it'd help us figure out if the same fate coudl happen to our planet. If we could restart life there (such as plants etc) and restore the atmosphere to livable conditions well we just made a lot of living space for mankind. Theres lots of good things that can come form this.
Non-man missions are great and recover a lot of useful information. Sending guys up in space for 3 months is almost useless in my opinion. Other than learning about how ou muscles atrophy easily in space (NO SHIT that's an easy one to figure out) we havent learned a lot from having people in space. We learn far more by having droids on rocks farther away than we can go.
Some things don't won't work when it first comes out and every one gets the release notes saying
"This features works, but you have to do this and this to get it to work. Our next update shoudl have this fixed"
"Currently this function is disabled. We plan to have it working in the next release"
The/. community should not be surprised by this at all, afterall your all working to make the Opensource community more popular and more influential. Sadly a lot of Opensourse projects go unfinished or stay in beta and alpha for very long times with promises of sugar plum fairys in every release note.
So now your surprised when someone else does this, and try to bash it?!/. = Hypo's at their best....
I'd just like to point out again for the record that NO ONE has been arrested/sued by the RIAA for DOWNLOADING music. They have been sued for SHARING their music files. Yes I know the News and Magazines keep saying "Music Downloaders" and "Downloading Music" but thats just so people will be afraid to use P2P softare for legitemate uses, such as Downloading the mp3s to the Bjork CD I own that is scratched and unplayable...
With that said, I understand this is somewhat news, but honestly your not really scamming or solving anything here. People are buying songs from itunes - good for them, people are downloading songs from itunes for free - GREAT you just made the powers that be "right" that music "Downloaders" are "teh d3v1l".
Blizzard and ID are 2 different type of game companies that both say
Blizz "hay were making a game" Kid "OMFG when is it going to be out? Is it out yet?" Blizz "STFU you'll get it when it's done"
ID "Hay were making a game" Kid "OMFG when is it going to be out? Is it out yet?" ID "STFU you'll get it when it's done"
Neither of those companies will hurt for sales...they have a loyal fanbase, just the same as SE does with it's FF series...the good companies own our souls and we can't not give in to them.
OH wait this is slashdot so maybe your talking about those open source games that are announced and then never come out or are released in varying alpha and beta stages over a 6 year period and never finished...yeah I guess that would hurt your company.:p
Any chick no matter how ugly can get paid for sex, and any guy seeing any chick doing something nerdy/geeky, makes her automatically attractive in the mind, if not physically by definition.
I'm glad to see that a mighty superior all-powerful MS killer OS is getting people to make the switch by using squeek toys, scratch and sniff adds, and hot chicks in longerie. Yeah god forbid they try and get a larger user base by making the actual OS appeal to average non-techys UI desires and creating a more user friendly environment. Oh wait this is slashdot you don't care abotu those things here....
Um besides the fact that that particular user sounded like someone who clicks on every "won money", "see me naked" ad they've ever seen, and needs to learn a lot. They probably in there mass clicking of windows hit the top right corner button that shrinks away the address bar.
It's not MS trying to use IE to hide you from "the truth" thats out there...But rather its an option in every worthwhile brower to shrink the url bar away. It has plenty of viable uses. And no IE doesn't normally open with it shrunk...
This scenario would be better handled recommending the person take a class on using the internet or get an AV program which 99% of the goods one have a popup blocker turned on by default and would help out someone like this, who doesn't know better.
OMGWTFBBQ!!!!! I can't belive you would support the EVIL EMPIRE OF DOOM like that. You are TEH SUQ and not a 1337 h4x0r like COWBOYNEAL!!! HE PWNS U FOO!!!
VIVA LA PENGUIN! LINUX 4 EVAR! W00T!
- note this supposed to be humorous, just in case some slashdotters think I am being serious and mark me up "Insightful":p
"I have a suggestion that's not in the Knowledge Base: don't use IE!"
If your the type of person who misstypes www.paypl.com(www.paypal.com) and end up going to a scam site, using Konqueror, Opera, Safari, whatever isn't going to help you not get scammed.
Thats why it's important for those who make those types of mistakes to pay attention to the url, and not what the page looks like. And if your complaining about not having popup blocking well, most AV (Norton, McAffee) programs now include popupblocking. And if the person doesn't have a AV then they probably the person who also doesn't pay attention to their url's and is also the person who needs to learn about these things.
I know you want to be "1337" and all but pick a better example or reason to flame a product thats obviously more used than your favorite browser.
A) They don't need to play Doom 3 up there. 20MHz is sufficient for almost anything you would want to do on Mars. Why send up more than you need to?
- Why are they getting millions of dollars if they are using chips that are 13 years old...
B) Your computer runs far hotter and consumes far more power than the Mars rovers do. Power is at a premium when you're millions of miles away from the nearest electrical outlet.
- Very true. Why not spend 13 years developing a low power design for processors and other hardware, that could be benificial for both space exploration and the earthen population...
C) The rovers are radiation-hardened. Your system is not. Your computer would last about twelve minutes in space before it locked up. A big part of radiation hardening is using larger (and therefore slower) transistors.
- Very true again, but it's not like they sent an apple 8600 up there, they modified the base design of a particular processor and added some great technology to it to make it space worthy, why could they not figure out how to do this with better technology...
D) It takes years to certify a particular piece of equipment as spaceworthy. NASA isn't going to just pop in the latest and greatest Athlon and assume it will work "because the last one did". That means that anything flying into space is automatically going to be at least a few years behind the curve.
- Correct, but i'm not saying Athlon 64 or P4 Extreme. I'm saying they have crap thats 13 years old, you'd think by 97 they would have said hay technology is moving really fast, lets figure out a way to use our low power technology with incorporating a dual G3 design....
The point i'm trying to make is NASA complains a lot about not having enough money, even though the government has donated billions to them over the past decade, and I and others expect more from NASA than pretty pictures for the amount of time and money put into their efforts.
um ok yes my system is not space worthy, but what I said was
"at least used a design similar to a Dual G4 or maybe even a Dual Xeon or P4"
They are not using actual PPC processors from Apple, there using RAD6000, which is...similar...to the PPC's
I'm just complaining that they could/should use better or give me my millions of dollars in taxes back. I see them as a money sink hole, that does not produce anything worthy with the amount of money the government pumps into them.
"RAD6000 microprocessors are radiation-hardened versions of the PowerPC chips that powered Macintosh computers in the early 1990s, with 128 megabytes of random access memory (RAM) and capable of carrying out about 20 million instructions per second."
Are all the millions of dollars spent on full for the rockets?! Why the fuck is my home system more advanced than NASA's? You'd think they'd of at least used a design similar to a Dual G4 or maybe even a Dual Xeon or P4. Can someone explain to me why NASA gets millions of dollars if they are using 1990 equipment?
If they are spending all there cash on rocket fuel, maybe they should hold off on launches until they get there shit updated and then go back to shooting off rockets.
I could honestly wait another couple years to see pictures of some rocks on a far off planet, if it meant i'd get to see a little better clarity and we'd have better communication with the bots, so were not losing them....
um...Wouldn't it just be better to buy a PS2 with the Linux Development kit....In my opinion its better to support those that help you then those who will use your money to further apposing goals...just my 2....
So the people who got layed off got that way because 1) They weren't qualified 2) The company did not need them/their position 3) THEY WERE NOT ESSENTIAL...generally I see lazy people layed off...
That aside if the person did have a brain they probably got another job quickly or had the drive to start there own thing. Those that continue to sit around seeking pity for "I have 10 years software development experience and can't find a job" are either lieing or have 10 years of working with irc scripting and not actual development...oh and surfing the net all day posting on slashdot doesn't count as a P2P Development Manager either.
"If you don't make these 'mistakes' of outsourcing development to Elbonia, couldn't you compete pretty well?"
Outsources programmers is not necesarily a bad idea. The problems with "outsourcing" comes mostly from companies that try to have there customer service/help desk offices over seas. That type of outsourcing makes it hard for customers to understand "click clack hahd driv gu gak duh" on the phone.
If your in school Adobe products are around $100, if your going to an acredited state university. Which is still very affordable imo. After you graduate and if you continue in the graphic design field your work shouldn't have a problem with upgrading your software every 1 or 2 years (mine doesn't) and if your freelancing you shouldn't have a problem with buying the software.
I watch very little tv (no pre-set shows i watch/like)
I read books often (1 every month or so)
I only "go out" on weekends
I spend the majority of my time at work chatting online and surfing the net, then I come home and play FFXI.
Why should I go outside? I get hay fever or cold or could get in an accident. It's not warm enough to use the pool yet, and the jacuzzi is nice, but I get cold when I get out.
Photoshop, Illustrator, and Indesign ($699) are all used in professional environments, and for the most part other products that compete (like QuarkXpress $1,045) have much higher price tags.
I think the only people that complain about the price tags of Adobe software are people who want to have Photoshop on their home pc because one of there friends who is a Graphic Designer told them it's good for workign with photos...When the average home use should probably NOT be buying photoshop to just adjust "red eye" and "contrast".
So my systems at home are constantly downloading and uploading lots of information and i've never had a problem.
I do about 1gig of traffic to my website a month, in addition me and my GF love porn and we download about 100mgs of porn a day (so around 3gigs a month roughly), and I play FFXI for a couple hours a night. Throw in AV updates, Windows updates, Driver updates, Video Game Patches, etc.. I'm guessing I do an easy 5gigs of traffic a month on average.
Now you also have to account ISO that gets downloaded every now and then that could push it higher, but i've never had an issue. I pay for a $40 for a 768k/256k DSL connection (the 768 is the speed cap for my area the $40 flat rate for all speeds up to 1.5)
I've never had a letter, but I'm not sharing files on kazaa or bit torrent either. If I did I could see my bandwidth usage doubling but even 10gigs of traffic a month doesn't seem to be in the "OMGWTFBBQ" range.
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Apple Users are UPGRADING there Apple Hardware and software to OMG New Versions of Apple Hardware and Software!!!!!!!
OMGWTFBBQ It's sucha crazy world!!!!!!
you mean this one....
Blake Stowell, SCO's director of communications, acknowledged that the leaked memo is real.
But, Stowell claimed, pundits had mischaracterized the memo's context. "We believe the e-mail was simply a misunderstanding of the facts by an outside consultant who was working on a specific unrelated project to the BayStar transaction and he was told at the time of his misunderstanding. Contrary to the speculation of Eric Raymond, Microsoft did not orchestrate or participate in the BayStar transaction."
First off this has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. Secondly did anyone even bother to read the memo before posting this on slashdot?!
I don't know about the way other companies get run, but usually when a Broker/Consultant (Mike Anderer) is writing a summary of issues to the VP(Chris Sontag) of the company he is contracting for, he takes the time to make sure his sentances are READABLE, and will usually run a SPELL CHECKER.
If you read that memo without the green and red blurbs, you'd find that it makes little to no sense whatsoever, and is very ambugious at best.
Here is the alledged memo COPIED AND PASTED without the blurbs added by opesource.org
--- From the mailbox of chris sontag
From: Mike Anderer
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003
To: csontag@sco.com
CC: Bob Bench
Subject: Conversation Friday
Chris:
I know you were going totalk to Bob later Friday, but I figured I would
outline the issues.
1) Baystar is easy as they were just a Microsoft referral and would be 2%
2) Any licensing deal would be at 5%
3) Much of the other work would go from 2% to 3% as I have engaged in direct, but this would require according to Bob either Darl or you signing off on the fact that this ane was not a referral.
4) On the patent side for IPX, where foes that fit it. I am working with the lawyers to get these moved from provisional to more complete in the next week. I think it will spawn at least 3 patents. Ed and I are the inventors on these. What do we fo here
5) The RedHat, Acrylis examiniation, there is no upside here is this billable seperatly. I bought a PC and loaded up RedHat and will take that over and work through it with the Lawfirm. What do we do here?
I realize the last negotiations are not as much fun, but Microsoft will have brough in $86 million for us including Baystar. The next deal we should be able to get from $16-20, but it will be brutial as it is for go to makerket work and some licences. I know we can do this , if everyone stays on board and still wants to do a deal. I just want to get this deal and move away from corp dev and out into the marketing andfield dollars....In this market we can get $3-5 million in incremental deals and not have to go through the gauntlet which will get
tougher next week with the SR VP's.
We should line up some small acquisitions here to jump start this if we do it. We shoudl also do this ASAP. Microsoft also indicated there was a lot more money out there and they would clearly rather use Baystar
"like" entities to help us get signifigantly more money if we want to grow further or do acquisitions
This Microsoft deal is the Ante to the poker game...We should get this done and go after several $2-3 Million deals from the expense side of their company.
The will help us a lot and if we execute we could exit and Unix componients we have build potentially back to Microsoft or MCS.
I think they are on track and may not be able to push much more this round, but there are other ways to get money from them, their partners, investment bank referrals, etc..
Do kepp in mind that they have brough us between $82 million and $86 million if this deal is between $4million per quarter where Rich is at, or it turns into %5 million wjich is the lowest number Chris had interest in.
There will be more, lons, partnerships, etc..but we need to just get this one done. It is too high profile, it is also critical, but they are not the people to pitch. We should get what we can from them ad then work the other and larger areas of the company and groups where
they have real budget and need for our help.
Let me know your thoughts.
-Mike
Personally I expect flying cars, personal space ships, and starship enterprizes with the amount of money NASA gets from my tax paying dollars....
But if there was life on mars at some point, figuring out what happened to that life, could be important to us in may ways. For one, it'd help us figure out if the same fate coudl happen to our planet. If we could restart life there (such as plants etc) and restore the atmosphere to livable conditions well we just made a lot of living space for mankind. Theres lots of good things that can come form this.
Non-man missions are great and recover a lot of useful information. Sending guys up in space for 3 months is almost useless in my opinion. Other than learning about how ou muscles atrophy easily in space (NO SHIT that's an easy one to figure out) we havent learned a lot from having people in space. We learn far more by having droids on rocks farther away than we can go.
Feature will be available in future upgrades
/. community should not be surprised by this at all, afterall your all working to make the Opensource community more popular and more influential. Sadly a lot of Opensourse projects go unfinished or stay in beta and alpha for very long times with promises of sugar plum fairys in every release note.
/. = Hypo's at their best....
Some things don't won't work when it first comes out and every one gets the release notes saying
"This features works, but you have to do this and this to get it to work. Our next update shoudl have this fixed"
"Currently this function is disabled. We plan to have it working in the next release"
The
So now your surprised when someone else does this, and try to bash it?!
I'd just like to point out again for the record that NO ONE has been arrested/sued by the RIAA for DOWNLOADING music. They have been sued for SHARING their music files. Yes I know the News and Magazines keep saying "Music Downloaders" and "Downloading Music" but thats just so people will be afraid to use P2P softare for legitemate uses, such as Downloading the mp3s to the Bjork CD I own that is scratched and unplayable...
With that said, I understand this is somewhat news, but honestly your not really scamming or solving anything here. People are buying songs from itunes - good for them, people are downloading songs from itunes for free - GREAT you just made the powers that be "right" that music "Downloaders" are "teh d3v1l".
Congratz.
Blizzard and ID are 2 different type of game companies that both say
:p
Blizz "hay were making a game"
Kid "OMFG when is it going to be out? Is it out yet?"
Blizz "STFU you'll get it when it's done"
ID "Hay were making a game"
Kid "OMFG when is it going to be out? Is it out yet?"
ID "STFU you'll get it when it's done"
Neither of those companies will hurt for sales...they have a loyal fanbase, just the same as SE does with it's FF series...the good companies own our souls and we can't not give in to them.
OH wait this is slashdot so maybe your talking about those open source games that are announced and then never come out or are released in varying alpha and beta stages over a 6 year period and never finished...yeah I guess that would hurt your company.
That Sex sells...
Any chick no matter how ugly can get paid for sex, and any guy seeing any chick doing something nerdy/geeky, makes her automatically attractive in the mind, if not physically by definition.
I'm glad to see that a mighty superior all-powerful MS killer OS is getting people to make the switch by using squeek toys, scratch and sniff adds, and hot chicks in longerie. Yeah god forbid they try and get a larger user base by making the actual OS appeal to average non-techys UI desires and creating a more user friendly environment. Oh wait this is slashdot you don't care abotu those things here....
"it's amusing to think that anyone who needed this OS would actually have to refer to them." lol
and since when do people who need/use a 64bit processor think 256MBs of memory is "a lot of memory"
Um besides the fact that that particular user sounded like someone who clicks on every "won money", "see me naked" ad they've ever seen, and needs to learn a lot. They probably in there mass clicking of windows hit the top right corner button that shrinks away the address bar.
It's not MS trying to use IE to hide you from "the truth" thats out there...But rather its an option in every worthwhile brower to shrink the url bar away. It has plenty of viable uses. And no IE doesn't normally open with it shrunk...
This scenario would be better handled recommending the person take a class on using the internet or get an AV program which 99% of the goods one have a popup blocker turned on by default and would help out someone like this, who doesn't know better.
Fact:
Link spoofing is possible with every browser.
Fact:
No browser is "completely" safe.
Fact:
People should be cautious with what they do online. Including paying attention to links they click or type in.
OMGWTFBBQ!!!!! I can't belive you would support the EVIL EMPIRE OF DOOM like that. You are TEH SUQ and not a 1337 h4x0r like COWBOYNEAL!!! HE PWNS U FOO!!!
:p
VIVA LA PENGUIN! LINUX 4 EVAR! W00T!
- note this supposed to be humorous, just in case some slashdotters think I am being serious and mark me up "Insightful"
"I have a suggestion that's not in the Knowledge Base: don't use IE!"
If your the type of person who misstypes www.paypl.com(www.paypal.com) and end up going to a scam site, using Konqueror, Opera, Safari, whatever isn't going to help you not get scammed.
Thats why it's important for those who make those types of mistakes to pay attention to the url, and not what the page looks like. And if your complaining about not having popup blocking well, most AV (Norton, McAffee) programs now include popupblocking. And if the person doesn't have a AV then they probably the person who also doesn't pay attention to their url's and is also the person who needs to learn about these things.
I know you want to be "1337" and all but pick a better example or reason to flame a product thats obviously more used than your favorite browser.
A) They don't need to play Doom 3 up there. 20MHz is sufficient for almost anything you would want to do on Mars. Why send up more than you need to?
- Why are they getting millions of dollars if they are using chips that are 13 years old...
B) Your computer runs far hotter and consumes far more power than the Mars rovers do. Power is at a premium when you're millions of miles away from the nearest electrical outlet.
- Very true. Why not spend 13 years developing a low power design for processors and other hardware, that could be benificial for both space exploration and the earthen population...
C) The rovers are radiation-hardened. Your system is not. Your computer would last about twelve minutes in space before it locked up. A big part of radiation hardening is using larger (and therefore slower) transistors.
- Very true again, but it's not like they sent an apple 8600 up there, they modified the base design of a particular processor and added some great technology to it to make it space worthy, why could they not figure out how to do this with better technology...
D) It takes years to certify a particular piece of equipment as spaceworthy. NASA isn't going to just pop in the latest and greatest Athlon and assume it will work "because the last one did". That means that anything flying into space is automatically going to be at least a few years behind the curve.
- Correct, but i'm not saying Athlon 64 or P4 Extreme. I'm saying they have crap thats 13 years old, you'd think by 97 they would have said hay technology is moving really fast, lets figure out a way to use our low power technology with incorporating a dual G3 design....
The point i'm trying to make is NASA complains a lot about not having enough money, even though the government has donated billions to them over the past decade, and I and others expect more from NASA than pretty pictures for the amount of time and money put into their efforts.
um ok yes my system is not space worthy, but what I said was
"at least used a design similar to a Dual G4 or maybe even a Dual Xeon or P4"
They are not using actual PPC processors from Apple, there using RAD6000, which is...similar...to the PPC's
I'm just complaining that they could/should use better or give me my millions of dollars in taxes back. I see them as a money sink hole, that does not produce anything worthy with the amount of money the government pumps into them.
"RAD6000 microprocessors are radiation-hardened versions of the PowerPC chips that powered Macintosh computers in the early 1990s, with 128 megabytes of random access memory (RAM) and capable of carrying out about 20 million instructions per second."
Are all the millions of dollars spent on full for the rockets?! Why the fuck is my home system more advanced than NASA's? You'd think they'd of at least used a design similar to a Dual G4 or maybe even a Dual Xeon or P4. Can someone explain to me why NASA gets millions of dollars if they are using 1990 equipment?
If they are spending all there cash on rocket fuel, maybe they should hold off on launches until they get there shit updated and then go back to shooting off rockets.
I could honestly wait another couple years to see pictures of some rocks on a far off planet, if it meant i'd get to see a little better clarity and we'd have better communication with the bots, so were not losing them....
um...Wouldn't it just be better to buy a PS2 with the Linux Development kit....In my opinion its better to support those that help you then those who will use your money to further apposing goals...just my 2....
So the people who got layed off got that way because ...generally I see lazy people layed off...
1) They weren't qualified
2) The company did not need them/their position
3) THEY WERE NOT ESSENTIAL
That aside if the person did have a brain they probably got another job quickly or had the drive to start there own thing. Those that continue to sit around seeking pity for "I have 10 years software development experience and can't find a job" are either lieing or have 10 years of working with irc scripting and not actual development...oh and surfing the net all day posting on slashdot doesn't count as a P2P Development Manager either.
"If you don't make these 'mistakes' of outsourcing development to Elbonia, couldn't you compete pretty well?"
Outsources programmers is not necesarily a bad idea. The problems with "outsourcing" comes mostly from companies that try to have there customer service/help desk offices over seas. That type of outsourcing makes it hard for customers to understand "click clack hahd driv gu gak duh" on the phone.
Great another kid who gets shit handed to him for doing nothing, yay.
If your in school Adobe products are around $100, if your going to an acredited state university. Which is still very affordable imo. After you graduate and if you continue in the graphic design field your work shouldn't have a problem with upgrading your software every 1 or 2 years (mine doesn't) and if your freelancing you shouldn't have a problem with buying the software.
I watch very little tv (no pre-set shows i watch/like)
I read books often (1 every month or so)
I only "go out" on weekends
I spend the majority of my time at work chatting online and surfing the net, then I come home and play FFXI.
Why should I go outside? I get hay fever or cold or could get in an accident. It's not warm enough to use the pool yet, and the jacuzzi is nice, but I get cold when I get out.
I think i'll just stay in and continue my life.
The pricing is very generous actually.
Photoshop, Illustrator, and Indesign ($699) are all used in professional environments, and for the most part other products that compete (like QuarkXpress $1,045) have much higher price tags.
I think the only people that complain about the price tags of Adobe software are people who want to have Photoshop on their home pc because one of there friends who is a Graphic Designer told them it's good for workign with photos...When the average home use should probably NOT be buying photoshop to just adjust "red eye" and "contrast".
So my systems at home are constantly downloading and uploading lots of information and i've never had a problem.
I do about 1gig of traffic to my website a month, in addition me and my GF love porn and we download about 100mgs of porn a day (so around 3gigs a month roughly), and I play FFXI for a couple hours a night. Throw in AV updates, Windows updates, Driver updates, Video Game Patches, etc.. I'm guessing I do an easy 5gigs of traffic a month on average.
Now you also have to account ISO that gets downloaded every now and then that could push it higher, but i've never had an issue. I pay for a $40 for a 768k/256k DSL connection (the 768 is the speed cap for my area the $40 flat rate for all speeds up to 1.5)
I've never had a letter, but I'm not sharing files on kazaa or bit torrent either. If I did I could see my bandwidth usage doubling but even 10gigs of traffic a month doesn't seem to be in the "OMGWTFBBQ" range.
Why I ax'd ferve peoples up n dem der barn n they tol me dat Windows more better dem those small birds that ain't able ta fly.
They re-released TRAILERS, since they were better than the ACTUAL MOVIES anyway....
UGH
Hay W Brothers! How about I give you the finger and you give me my wasted time and money back?