Um, he's talking about a _68030_, is he not? That's seriously slow. Running OmniWeb NeXTSTEP on a 25MHz 68040 is too slow for modern web usage, I can only imagine how slow it would be on a slower processor.
Excuse my ignorance, but why it is bad to use version control for a (presumably) large website? Seems like a reasonable idea, given that you might have multiple people editing it from geographically distant places.
The challenge might not need to be something a human would solve -- if something actually can receive the challenge email, it's like to not be a spammer, since they don't use real Reply-to addresses. If they do use real Reply-To: addresses, they can be quickly traced and shut down.
Maybe the reluctance was because phpGroupware isn't seen as a significant player yet for the "Enterprise"? Not to say the Evolution folks shouldn't document their calendar APIs... : )
It has now been 18 months since I left DaimlerChrysler and the ChryslerComprehensiveCompensation system. The decision to stop further development on the software was made in January 2000. A lot of people have been speculating as to why this occurred and what are its implications for XP. As far as I can tell, all of this speculation has come from people who were not there.
At last report, the software is still running. It is not paying as many people as it did at its zenith. In fact it is paying a very small group of former employees who are eligible for extended layoff benefits. Not what we had in mind when we started, but it is doing a job that no other available piece of software can do.
DaimlerChrysler still wants to replace all of their payrolls systems with a single solution and are gearing up to spend about 4 times C3?s total cost to do it. This will be DaimlerChrysler?s fifth attempt to do this. C3 is the only one to go live, in fact, at one point it was paying employees from what were three separate payroll systems.
None of this actually matters, because building a payroll systems was C3?s secondary goal. I don't think anyone has written about this before, mostly because it happened before RonJeffries joined the team. The team?s original charter, and it was reiterated when the decision to bring in KentBeck was made, was to learn how to use object technology, to learn how to manage projects that use it and if we built a new payroll system, that would be gravy.
There can be no question that we achieved the first two. New software at DaimlerChrysler is being written using objects (if you can call Java objects). Management was not happy that we didn?t replace the old payroll systems, but they didn?t ride us out of town on a rail. C3 alumni have gone on to lead development efforts in areas central to the company?s success, areas such as cost management, vehicle manufacturing and personnel management. Reports of XP?s demise at DaimlerChrysler have been greatly exaggerated. In fact, we are beginning to see a second generation of conference speakers come out of DaimlerChrysler. At the 2001 JavaOne conference Dave Boehme, gave a talk about how his team, with the help of a C3 alumnus, turned around a large scale J2EE project.
As best as I can tell, the decision to stop C3 development was made, not because we were wasting the company?s time and money, but because it was time to use what we had learned on more important problems. We did not work for a payroll processing company; we worked for an automobile maker.
The techniques learned on C3 are now being used on projects that impact the bottom line. As a stockholder, I think it is a good thing.
With all that being said, what really happened at C3?
I don't think that there is one simple answer to that question. The best answer is that we stopped providing value to our customer. Elsewhere on this page the bifurcation of our customer is discussed. The fact that we had two customers, with differing goals, means that we violated the principle of a single on-site customer. Let this be a lesson to you! Your customer must speak with one voice and if that is not the case you will suffer. -- ChetHendrickson
Dude, don't forget the "right" to spend 50% of the budget on the military.
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Absolutely, some folks call this idea "organizational memory", which is related to another concept called "organizational learning".
What kind of in-game or game-support tools would you like to use? I could easily see a web-based interface that allowed up uploading and sharing of content, accessible in-game...
Nice screenshots, but when I downloaded the game and connected to the test server, my character was trapped in a box and couldn't explore the world. What gives??
Maybe it has something to do with the timelyness of it, the computer generated cyberspace of Neuromancer is just dull compared to what I see on my computer every day. maybe if I'd read it in '77 I'd feel diffrently.
Yes, it's the way we build everything. Apple will probably have an iBot for you to purchase within the next 50 years that combines hardware and software from hundreds of vendors, just like they do now for their other products.
And so do cigarette makers and drug dealers, for that matter
Please, they prefer to be called "The Pharmaceutical Industry".
Agreed, my experience of #debian has been very unpleasant. For such an amazing distro, there are some very poorly socialized folks on that channel.
How much $$ did they cost you guys?
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They are having problems? What kind of problems? Fits, maybe?
Maybe we'll see a new moderator rating: Cliche Joke.
Anyone else get the feeling that Mr. Gosling's been Focused?
Um, he's talking about a _68030_, is he not? That's seriously slow. Running OmniWeb NeXTSTEP on a 25MHz 68040 is too slow for modern web usage, I can only imagine how slow it would be on a slower processor.
Excuse my ignorance, but why it is bad to use version control for a (presumably) large website? Seems like a reasonable idea, given that you might have multiple people editing it from geographically distant places.
"Radio Shack; You've got questions. We've got blank stares."
Whoa! What's your experience been with the Rackshack service?
Same way they did with EPROMs, maybe?
The challenge might not need to be something a human would solve -- if something actually can receive the challenge email, it's like to not be a spammer, since they don't use real Reply-to addresses. If they do use real Reply-To: addresses, they can be quickly traced and shut down.
Hey, I agree, Ogg format should be in there. I wonder if it is possible for a third party to write a plugin...
Maybe the reluctance was because phpGroupware isn't seen as a significant player yet for the "Enterprise"? Not to say the Evolution folks shouldn't document their calendar APIs... : )
Correction, _bad_ science fiction can skew one's view of reality.
Or the runtime state of an MMP.
Plus there is the cost of the boxes...so cheap as possible, but no cheaper. ; )
To quote the Wiki:
It has now been 18 months since I left DaimlerChrysler and the ChryslerComprehensiveCompensation system. The decision to stop further development on the software was made in January 2000. A lot of people have been speculating as to why this occurred and what are its implications for XP. As far as I can tell, all of this speculation has come from people who were not there.
At last report, the software is still running. It is not paying as many people as it did at its zenith. In fact it is paying a very small group of former employees who are eligible for extended layoff benefits. Not what we had in mind when we started, but it is doing a job that no other available piece of software can do.
DaimlerChrysler still wants to replace all of their payrolls systems with a single solution and are gearing up to spend about 4 times C3?s total cost to do it. This will be DaimlerChrysler?s fifth attempt to do this. C3 is the only one to go live, in fact, at one point it was paying employees from what were three separate payroll systems.
None of this actually matters, because building a payroll systems was C3?s secondary goal. I don't think anyone has written about this before, mostly because it happened before RonJeffries joined the team. The team?s original charter, and it was reiterated when the decision to bring in KentBeck was made, was to learn how to use object technology, to learn how to manage projects that use it and if we built a new payroll system, that would be gravy.
There can be no question that we achieved the first two. New software at DaimlerChrysler is being written using objects (if you can call Java objects). Management was not happy that we didn?t replace the old payroll systems, but they didn?t ride us out of town on a rail. C3 alumni have gone on to lead development efforts in areas central to the company?s success, areas such as cost management, vehicle manufacturing and personnel management. Reports of XP?s demise at DaimlerChrysler have been greatly exaggerated. In fact, we are beginning to see a second generation of conference speakers come out of DaimlerChrysler. At the 2001 JavaOne conference Dave Boehme, gave a talk about how his team, with the help of a C3 alumnus, turned around a large scale J2EE project.
As best as I can tell, the decision to stop C3 development was made, not because we were wasting the company?s time and money, but because it was time to use what we had learned on more important problems. We did not work for a payroll processing company; we worked for an automobile maker.
The techniques learned on C3 are now being used on projects that impact the bottom line. As a stockholder, I think it is a good thing.
With all that being said, what really happened at C3?
I don't think that there is one simple answer to that question. The best answer is that we stopped providing value to our customer. Elsewhere on this page the bifurcation of our customer is discussed. The fact that we had two customers, with differing goals, means that we violated the principle of a single on-site customer. Let this be a lesson to you! Your customer must speak with one voice and if that is not the case you will suffer. -- ChetHendrickson
Dude, don't forget the "right" to spend 50% of the budget on the military.
Absolutely, some folks call this idea "organizational memory", which is related to another concept called "organizational learning".
What kind of in-game or game-support tools would you like to use? I could easily see a web-based interface that allowed up uploading and sharing of content, accessible in-game...
Jason
Nice screenshots, but when I downloaded the game and connected to the test server, my character was trapped in a box and couldn't explore the world. What gives??
Ok, now we have X11. What X11 apps should we install??
They did use an open source X implementation.
Maybe it has something to do with the timelyness of it, the computer generated cyberspace of Neuromancer is just dull compared to what I see on my computer every day. maybe if I'd read it in '77 I'd feel diffrently.
Yeah, Neuromancer didn't have autopr0n.com! : )
Yes, it's the way we build everything. Apple will probably have an iBot for you to purchase within the next 50 years that combines hardware and software from hundreds of vendors, just like they do now for their other products.