Ok, I agree that having to re-download the messages is a definate downside. This is true.
But I'm curious - assuming you have two TB clients looking at the same IMAP account, you're saying that messages that appear as 'read' on one client may not appear as 'read' on the other client? i.e. to mark a message as read, it must be LOCALLY read? I do not see this behavior in 0.8 - everything that I do on one maching is reflected on all other machines...perhaps you have stumbled upon a bug?
regardless, thank you for taking the time to respond to my query!
Mike
Firing your employee is one thing. I probably would seriously consider it as well, considering the security risk. Calling him names in a public forum is quite another. At the very least, Tom Hayes should be fired himself. Also, restitution should be given to the fired employee in the form of a lump sum payment or his job back. A public apology is also absolutely necessary.
I use Thunderbird 0.8 IMAP all the time without any issue. I have been using Thunderbird's IMAP exclusively since 0.4 without issue. How does TB "(do) IMAP badly"?
I have gentoo on two boxes. Next the the Tools->Downloads link I see nothing (it's blank). I know what you are talking about - it was there in 0.9. It's gone now.
AND CTRL-J does NOT work either.
AND ESC does not work even when the cursor is in the box and blinking.
God, don't make me go back to 0.9.3! Oh, the horror! This is supposed to be better!:)
I tried that and the ESC doesn't close the find bar. Nor does the incremental search work correctly (I press "/" then type, it find the word fine, but I can't CTRL-G to the next match). Personally, they broke more things then they fixed. I can't figure out how to open the Download Manager (CTRL-E and CTRL-Y do NOT work). It just seems more broken when it should be just the opposite.
Just my experience.
The only difference from the default gentoo install, aside from being prebuilt, is the inclusion of prelinking. This is also available in gentoo but not installed by default.
Man, I wish there was a way to identify all the components within a screenshot - too many times I see an amazing linux desktop but have no idea what applications are running to get it looking that way.
...so I would imagine they are more interested in getting it working. They'll remove cruft and streamline as they approach a release version.
I, for one, would very much like a standards compliant stand-alone calendar app. Being able to run my own online calendar is very nice as well, since I have between several computers throughout the day.
Right now it requires SOME moz product (thunderbird, firefox, or mozilla suite) to be installed to work. Bit of a crutch, but something that over time will disappear. Can't wait!
"Islamic terrorism is a threat to life and limb but it is in no way capable of removing freedoms from those of us that have them, only our governments can do that."
I disagree. When the WTC attack occurred people voluntarily stopped flying - "Gee, I shouldn't get on an airplane cause it could be hijacked." This takes away our freedom to fly without an increased fear for life and limb.
Likewise suppose a bombing occurs at several coffee shops. I am sure that there will be people who would think twice about picking up their daily latte because of the terrorist's actions. The terrorist is removing our basic freedom of "normal daily activities without a fear for life and limb." This can become as dibilitating, if not more so due to people's inability to calculate the actual probabilities that such an awful thing could happen to them, than a less constrained government engine.
Taking a wild guess here, but could the reason you don't get the same battery life out of Linux be due to you using more applications concurrently in Linux that in Windoze? It sounds like you have quite a setup on the Linux partition - do you have the same number of programs on the Windows partition that you regularly run?
Let's compare apples to apples. Mine's bigger. MUWAHAHAHA!
Did this a few months ago, when they were two separate companies. Attempted to bring my Indy number with me to Chicago. No dice. Said that it was out of the area, even though i wanted to sign up for a local plan - I just wanted to keep my number.
For what it's worth, customer service and technical ability was sub par on both sides of the equation. Waiting for the day when we all just have one number (perhaps a IPv6 domain, with subdomains for each of our telephones/computers/gizmos) - that way it's ours till death. Can't wait for the future.
That's great, until you start dealing with recently created/delted files that have not been updated in the slocatedb. Then you have users looking for files that the computer doesn't see and viewing files that they thought they deleted.
RTFP: "I routinely work on older systems right beside newer systems on the same monitor (Dell P1110) and it becomes blaringly obvious" (emphasis added)
Yeah, and he had this group of construction worker buddies he would hand out in bars with. He had a great mind, but he was abused as a child and couldn't express intimate emotions. He solves this problem on the board, and the next hting he knows the math professor really wants him to work on problems together. Then Robin Williams shows up and...oh, wait a minute.
RTFA...incredible waste of my time. Dated jokes that weren't funny when they were written - note reference to SimCity and Flight Simluator, two games that were very cool about 5 years ago.
Ok, I agree that having to re-download the messages is a definate downside. This is true.
But I'm curious - assuming you have two TB clients looking at the same IMAP account, you're saying that messages that appear as 'read' on one client may not appear as 'read' on the other client? i.e. to mark a message as read, it must be LOCALLY read? I do not see this behavior in 0.8 - everything that I do on one maching is reflected on all other machines...perhaps you have stumbled upon a bug?
regardless, thank you for taking the time to respond to my query!
Mike
Firing your employee is one thing. I probably would seriously consider it as well, considering the security risk. Calling him names in a public forum is quite another. At the very least, Tom Hayes should be fired himself. Also, restitution should be given to the fired employee in the form of a lump sum payment or his job back. A public apology is also absolutely necessary.
I use Thunderbird 0.8 IMAP all the time without any issue. I have been using Thunderbird's IMAP exclusively since 0.4 without issue. How does TB "(do) IMAP badly"?
Anyone out there know/have mirrors or torrent links? The downloads of all the cool videos in the slideshow are exceptionally slow...
I have gentoo on two boxes. Next the the Tools->Downloads link I see nothing (it's blank). I know what you are talking about - it was there in 0.9. It's gone now.
:)
AND CTRL-J does NOT work either.
AND ESC does not work even when the cursor is in the box and blinking.
God, don't make me go back to 0.9.3! Oh, the horror! This is supposed to be better!
I tried that and the ESC doesn't close the find bar. Nor does the incremental search work correctly (I press "/" then type, it find the word fine, but I can't CTRL-G to the next match). Personally, they broke more things then they fixed. I can't figure out how to open the Download Manager (CTRL-E and CTRL-Y do NOT work). It just seems more broken when it should be just the opposite.
Just my experience.
The only difference from the default gentoo install, aside from being prebuilt, is the inclusion of prelinking. This is also available in gentoo but not installed by default.
For instance, where did they get this kicker bar:_ lynucs_1759409500411796a9ba106_1.jpg
http://img38.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img38&image=screen
Also, will drop shadows and tranlucency work with any windows manager (i.e. XFCE4), or do I have to be running Gnome/KDE?
no - You do not talk about Spam Club.
Just donated $5. I usually try to donate something every few months, from $1 to $15. Worth every penny.
I, for one, would very much like a standards compliant stand-alone calendar app. Being able to run my own online calendar is very nice as well, since I have between several computers throughout the day.
Right now it requires SOME moz product (thunderbird, firefox, or mozilla suite) to be installed to work. Bit of a crutch, but something that over time will disappear. Can't wait!
Totally legit? This is their chief editor? How old is he, 14 - or is he just a big Bobby Brown fan? Holy language moron, Batman!
Always find it fascinating to see one culture's interpretation of another.
This site is a celebration of the misunderstandings that always take place: http://www.engrish.com
"Islamic terrorism is a threat to life and limb but it is in no way capable of removing freedoms from those of us that have them, only our governments can do that."
I disagree. When the WTC attack occurred people voluntarily stopped flying - "Gee, I shouldn't get on an airplane cause it could be hijacked." This takes away our freedom to fly without an increased fear for life and limb.
Likewise suppose a bombing occurs at several coffee shops. I am sure that there will be people who would think twice about picking up their daily latte because of the terrorist's actions. The terrorist is removing our basic freedom of "normal daily activities without a fear for life and limb." This can become as dibilitating, if not more so due to people's inability to calculate the actual probabilities that such an awful thing could happen to them, than a less constrained government engine.
Taking a wild guess here, but could the reason you don't get the same battery life out of Linux be due to you using more applications concurrently in Linux that in Windoze? It sounds like you have quite a setup on the Linux partition - do you have the same number of programs on the Windows partition that you regularly run?
Let's compare apples to apples. Mine's bigger. MUWAHAHAHA!
Did this a few months ago, when they were two separate companies. Attempted to bring my Indy number with me to Chicago. No dice. Said that it was out of the area, even though i wanted to sign up for a local plan - I just wanted to keep my number. For what it's worth, customer service and technical ability was sub par on both sides of the equation. Waiting for the day when we all just have one number (perhaps a IPv6 domain, with subdomains for each of our telephones/computers/gizmos) - that way it's ours till death. Can't wait for the future.
That's great, until you start dealing with recently created/delted files that have not been updated in the slocatedb. Then you have users looking for files that the computer doesn't see and viewing files that they thought they deleted.
For christs sake - make them links. I just woke up!c k.html
http://www.appealinggifts.com/screaming-alarm-clo
http://monsternase.de/wltdo.swf
RTFP:
"I routinely work on older systems right beside newer systems on the same monitor (Dell P1110) and it becomes blaringly obvious"
(emphasis added)
YMMV? What does that stand for?
Yeah, and he had this group of construction worker buddies he would hand out in bars with. He had a great mind, but he was abused as a child and couldn't express intimate emotions. He solves this problem on the board, and the next hting he knows the math professor really wants him to work on problems together. Then Robin Williams shows up and...oh, wait a minute.
Most retarded post, ever.
</comic book guy>
RTFA...incredible waste of my time. Dated jokes that weren't funny when they were written - note reference to SimCity and Flight Simluator, two games that were very cool about 5 years ago.
Appreciate the Aqua Teen Hunger Force sig. Hysterical.
Read:7
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/5/11/7032/1834
Hoax...urba legend...load of crap. But on CNN?!? What is the world coming to?
Ahh...reminds me of when I first got past the Trivia Quiz Age Check questions in Leisure Suit Larry.
What's amazing is that this question was in the 1987 release (no joke):
O.J. Simpson is
a. an R & B singer.
b. under indictment.
c. embarrassed by his first name (Olivia).
d. no one to fool with.
Correct answer: d
Duh.