How can any judge in the EU or anywhere else look at this as anything but a bribe? I have a hard time imaging a judge who they tell that MS is so much better now will take them seriously now that this little gem is out.
What SUN and many others miss is that the most compelling thing about linux and linux distributions isnt the system in itself, its the license its released under. The GPL license is a protection against malicious corporations and what prevents anybody from gaining strangelhold. It forces corporations to work together with the users in a never before seen way. I and many with me will not migrate to a license that makes it possible for SUN to just rip the floor from under our feet in five years time. Even a GPL license will be very scrutinized so that all the bases are covered and not just some parts of the system.
I think they put all to much weight into peoples cheapness and think that GNU/linux is all about money. Well a big part of the money bit is to not let anyone lock you in like MS did. I find this a desperate move from SUN who cant decide what leg to stand on. MS is sure to be happy to have one single entity to crush if SUN should gain foothold with Solaris. With linux its just not possible to stomp it out in one blow.
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Firefox is at version 1.0, thus any version before that is unimportant as it starts TODAY. If it had been a version 1.1 that didnt upgrade it would have been bad but now its a non issue.
I dont understand how that warmonger could win? I refuse to believe that the american people consists of a bunch of evil terrorist wannabies whos sole wish in life is to blow up little kids and women!
Anyone who has used Novell much has noticed how Novell has had to remake every Windows version to even work as a network enabled desktop should. Because Windows is so not network enabled it isnt well suited to be in a network period. The amount of work they have had to put into Windows just to get it to log into a Novell server is staggering for anyone who has used pam_auth_ncpfs on linux. A linux desktop is ready today for Novell, all its lacking is zenworks like features with centrally managed menus and common login scripts. The profiles bit is really easy on linux and just needs some simple glue to work seamless.
Linux gives Novell what it wanted back in 95 when it instead got the steaming pile of sh*t called Windows 95. I really hope they get it toghether and working perfectly real soon because of the breathing room given by MS eternal vapourware called Longhorn.
I run all my linux servers against Novell for user managment and it works perfect today, this gives the same advantage to the non techies.
American history is full of examples that makes the tinfoil fly. Based on past behaviour i should say that you should not write anything off when it comes to American administration.
Even the strangest conspiracy teory often has a counterpart somewhere in history.
No not states but i wanted to give a picture of how big roads im talking about. The bigger roads interconnecting sweden is usually covered but the second you leave them upnorth you really ned a pigeon to communicate.
Actually they did. They did know all about it but internet was free, something MS cant stand. They set out to build their own net, MSN Network. Since microsoft cant invent itself out of a wet paperbag their MSN network failed miserably. The internet took over almost instantly and MS had to do a 90 degree turn, something that took a while to do.
In short, MS did know about the Internet but since they hate "not invented/stolen here" they tried to ignore it as long as possible.
I beg your pardon? I live in sweden too and the only place our cellphones work is pretty much around interstate highways and capital cities in the south. In the north the range is terrible. Not to mention our cellphone companies who wont invest a dime in cellular data traffic anywhere outside the three biggest cities. China seems miles ahead of our crappy Sweden. To bad our school mostly did contain brainwash about how great of a nation we are. We suck on most things and are on the brink of total bancruptcy, wee how fun!
Because to make all applications platform agnostic is the next logical step in development. The web is today mostly platform independent but it lacks the ability to present a nice interface to the user. Add that to a browser and you have a platform agnostic application framework.
This must have MS all wired up because the second they loose the applications barrier to entry on the market they are toast.
A normal antivirus application will do the job just fine. Since spyware and worms is essentially the same beasts an antivirus application already has the mechanism for discovering and removing the spyware and the register keys.
There is a reason as to why the Antivirus programs dont include av definitions for spyware. The insane US court system has the vendors sitting on their hands in fear of getting sued out of the map by some greedy SCO-like spyware vendor. Because some spyware is "legit" (as in the user clicked on something before the install) this is a misty area legally.
I dont know what you have been using but my perception has been that meddling with the OS is not a thing the user has to do on a low level anymore. Most modern distros does everything for the user and leaves almost nothing to fiddle with.
Granted there are a mile ahead but not in any way as bad as you put it. Dont forget that on a corporate desktop the USER shall NOT have any access to the machine at all. There should be competent admins running the circus, not MCSE's.
Isnt it enough that the US is more than capable to destroy the world five times over, not counting pollution and bad movies?
Im sick of the US talking about terrorism. Im damn more frightened about those kinds of weapons in the hand of a country than terrorists killing small number of people randomly. Vote that warmonger and his evil friends to the stoneage i say!
Businesses who want to use the code and not give anything back is the only ones who are having problems with the GPL. I for one cant imagine a better way to ensure that no company or person can pillage and burn the remains and walk away with the tresure. Invalidating the GPL would only put the rights back to their respective owners so that wouldnt help one bit. For a company like Microsoft or any other predatory its hard to nail a couple of million coders working for free. The GPL is what holds them together.
Many would surely like the GPL to be lifted so they could steal all the code and then make the authors pay for their own (then incompatible) code!
The reason i dont like the BSD license is that i would have a hard time coughing up dough to buy a product i had a part in and that the one who took the code made incompatible with my original code, deliberatly! I dont like its "please rimjob me twice" kind of message.
What about attatchments? Can i send a big file to myself and then be able to get to it from some other place? 2 Gb would be useful if that was the case but to have that space to store a bunch of spam and not being able to use it for something productive sounds pretty lame.
The biggest problem i encounter when dealing with other peoples mail is that i cant send any big attachments.
Then you shouldnt be using MS Windows at all. Windows and MS Office is a tower of babylon for most users. You cant even get interoperability between various office version. Its even better in Open Office than in MS Office, go figure. Sharing things between windows boxes isnt exactly painless either. Samba does that much better right now. All that is missing is nice GUI gadgets for the clueless masses.
Technically linux is way ahead of windows, all that is missing is PR and some idiotification of the GUI.
LTSP is a very nice thin client solution that really works well. There are a couple of turn key isos out there that installs just like any dist, no messing around. Try k12ltsp.org or skolelinux.
There are also a couple of apps you put into your XP machine to lock it down wich works very well.
Third you could get yourself a Tandberg Safaty card wich restores the harddrive completely on reboot. No matter how much someone messes the computer up it will be just as before after reboot.
I did k12ltsp and have had zero problems over a year now.
I like this idea as it makes development go even faster. Not that i am a big fan of development just because but rather becaues i feel there is much left to be done before things are really mature. I really hope though that this wont make security suffer. My hope lies in better security being built into the kernel and new ways of protecting it being developed.
Just as the share price is slipping below they release this. I cant imagine this being a coincidence. In court they have said nothing about this at all. They have been ordered to provide proof of what specifically linux infringes on, not only the IBM stuff, and has brought nothing but "the dog ate my homework". This despite two court orders to bring forward specifications like this.
The board is surely behind this and i suspect the SCO laywers are furious. Now they have to explain to the court why this was so damn hard to bring forward in a court with two orders hanging around their neck while it was this easy to tell the media.
Share price up tomorrow and then as theese unfounded allegations get shot down it will fall again.
Is it really ok for a predatory monopolist to attack a viable business alternative by whatever means possible? Compete on price, features, security and such is a ok but what they are doing now cant be all be dandy?
Most offenses they do is ok in isolated incidents but if you add them all up, can you show intended harm?
How much does a patent cost and is it time that we start patenting things to to have a war chest? There isnt like there is a lack of brilliant new ideas that have come out of open source projects.
Is it possible to start a fund that owns these patents? In short, how the heck do one protect itself from a litigous bastard like SCO and Microsoft? Even if youre innocent you still have to spend millions of $ and plenty of time.
The patent system is utterly broken if it can be used to squash competitors. He who patents the most obvious patents win.
I sure hope someone in the EU reads this memo and gets a clue or else we will have the same broken system in the EU.
Not having it would give us a great advantage over the US. If else it will be the asian and far east that will do most prograss in software and computers while we argue about who "invented" the 1 and 0!
Land of the free my ass. This is just an example of how the US misuse laws to detain uncomfortable people. Im just waiting for Michael Moore to be imprisoned for using the wrong kind of sunblock.
How is it that in the US you can say pretty much anything about muslims but call Israel (not jews as a group, the country damnit!) something you are toast? Free speech cant be selective you know.
Would it be better if he was against people of muslim faith and if he applauded the thousands of innocent iraqis killed because of the UN sanctions and the ongoing war?
I hate this double standard, cant take it anymore!
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The best intersection technology avaliable today is roundabouts. No traffic light can come close to the flow in one of those.
How can any judge in the EU or anywhere else look at this as anything but a bribe? I have a hard time imaging a judge who they tell that MS is so much better now will take them seriously now that this little gem is out.
What SUN and many others miss is that the most compelling thing about linux and linux distributions isnt the system in itself, its the license its released under. The GPL license is a protection against malicious corporations and what prevents anybody from gaining strangelhold. It forces corporations to work together with the users in a never before seen way. I and many with me will not migrate to a license that makes it possible for SUN to just rip the floor from under our feet in five years time. Even a GPL license will be very scrutinized so that all the bases are covered and not just some parts of the system.
I think they put all to much weight into peoples cheapness and think that GNU/linux is all about money. Well a big part of the money bit is to not let anyone lock you in like MS did. I find this a desperate move from SUN who cant decide what leg to stand on. MS is sure to be happy to have one single entity to crush if SUN should gain foothold with Solaris. With linux its just not possible to stomp it out in one blow.
Firefox is at version 1.0, thus any version before that is unimportant as it starts TODAY. If it had been a version 1.1 that didnt upgrade it would have been bad but now its a non issue.
I dont understand how that warmonger could win? I refuse to believe that the american people consists of a bunch of evil terrorist wannabies whos sole wish in life is to blow up little kids and women!
Enough already!
Peace..
Anyone who has used Novell much has noticed how Novell has had to remake every Windows version to even work as a network enabled desktop should. Because Windows is so not network enabled it isnt well suited to be in a network period. The amount of work they have had to put into Windows just to get it to log into a Novell server is staggering for anyone who has used pam_auth_ncpfs on linux. A linux desktop is ready today for Novell, all its lacking is zenworks like features with centrally managed menus and common login scripts. The profiles bit is really easy on linux and just needs some simple glue to work seamless.
Linux gives Novell what it wanted back in 95 when it instead got the steaming pile of sh*t called Windows 95. I really hope they get it toghether and working perfectly real soon because of the breathing room given by MS eternal vapourware called Longhorn.
I run all my linux servers against Novell for user managment and it works perfect today, this gives the same advantage to the non techies.
American history is full of examples that makes the tinfoil fly. Based on past behaviour i should say that you should not write anything off when it comes to American administration.
Even the strangest conspiracy teory often has a counterpart somewhere in history.
No not states but i wanted to give a picture of how big roads im talking about. The bigger roads interconnecting sweden is usually covered but the second you leave them upnorth you really ned a pigeon to communicate.
Actually they did. They did know all about it but internet was free, something MS cant stand. They set out to build their own net, MSN Network. Since microsoft cant invent itself out of a wet paperbag their MSN network failed miserably. The internet took over almost instantly and MS had to do a 90 degree turn, something that took a while to do.
In short, MS did know about the Internet but since they hate "not invented/stolen here" they tried to ignore it as long as possible.
Noone can get a job in sweden right now. Yould blend in just nicely with the rest of us!
I beg your pardon? I live in sweden too and the only place our cellphones work is pretty much around interstate highways and capital cities in the south. In the north the range is terrible. Not to mention our cellphone companies who wont invest a dime in cellular data traffic anywhere outside the three biggest cities. China seems miles ahead of our crappy Sweden. To bad our school mostly did contain brainwash about how great of a nation we are. We suck on most things and are on the brink of total bancruptcy, wee how fun!
Because to make all applications platform agnostic is the next logical step in development. The web is today mostly platform independent but it lacks the ability to present a nice interface to the user. Add that to a browser and you have a platform agnostic application framework.
This must have MS all wired up because the second they loose the applications barrier to entry on the market they are toast.
A normal antivirus application will do the job just fine. Since spyware and worms is essentially the same beasts an antivirus application already has the mechanism for discovering and removing the spyware and the register keys.
There is a reason as to why the Antivirus programs dont include av definitions for spyware. The insane US court system has the vendors sitting on their hands in fear of getting sued out of the map by some greedy SCO-like spyware vendor. Because some spyware is "legit" (as in the user clicked on something before the install) this is a misty area legally.
I dont know what you have been using but my perception has been that meddling with the OS is not a thing the user has to do on a low level anymore. Most modern distros does everything for the user and leaves almost nothing to fiddle with.
Granted there are a mile ahead but not in any way as bad as you put it. Dont forget that on a corporate desktop the USER shall NOT have any access to the machine at all. There should be competent admins running the circus, not MCSE's.
Isnt it enough that the US is more than capable to destroy the world five times over, not counting pollution and bad movies?
Im sick of the US talking about terrorism. Im damn more frightened about those kinds of weapons in the hand of a country than terrorists killing small number of people randomly. Vote that warmonger and his evil friends to the stoneage i say!
Businesses who want to use the code and not give anything back is the only ones who are having problems with the GPL. I for one cant imagine a better way to ensure that no company or person can pillage and burn the remains and walk away with the tresure. Invalidating the GPL would only put the rights back to their respective owners so that wouldnt help one bit. For a company like Microsoft or any other predatory its hard to nail a couple of million coders working for free. The GPL is what holds them together.
Many would surely like the GPL to be lifted so they could steal all the code and then make the authors pay for their own (then incompatible) code!
The reason i dont like the BSD license is that i would have a hard time coughing up dough to buy a product i had a part in and that the one who took the code made incompatible with my original code, deliberatly! I dont like its "please rimjob me twice" kind of message.
What about attatchments? Can i send a big file to myself and then be able to get to it from some other place? 2 Gb would be useful if that was the case but to have that space to store a bunch of spam and not being able to use it for something productive sounds pretty lame.
The biggest problem i encounter when dealing with other peoples mail is that i cant send any big attachments.
So, how big mail can Gmail or hotmail deliver?
Then you shouldnt be using MS Windows at all. Windows and MS Office is a tower of babylon for most users. You cant even get interoperability between various office version. Its even better in Open Office than in MS Office, go figure. Sharing things between windows boxes isnt exactly painless either. Samba does that much better right now. All that is missing is nice GUI gadgets for the clueless masses.
Technically linux is way ahead of windows, all that is missing is PR and some idiotification of the GUI.
LTSP is a very nice thin client solution that really works well. There are a couple of turn key isos out there that installs just like any dist, no messing around. Try k12ltsp.org or skolelinux.
There are also a couple of apps you put into your XP machine to lock it down wich works very well.
Third you could get yourself a Tandberg Safaty card wich restores the harddrive completely on reboot. No matter how much someone messes the computer up it will be just as before after reboot.
I did k12ltsp and have had zero problems over a year now.
1% linux sounds pretty small to me. What are there on those remaining 5% systems?
I like this idea as it makes development go even faster. Not that i am a big fan of development just because but rather becaues i feel there is much left to be done before things are really mature. I really hope though that this wont make security suffer. My hope lies in better security being built into the kernel and new ways of protecting it being developed.
Just as the share price is slipping below they release this. I cant imagine this being a coincidence. In court they have said nothing about this at all. They have been ordered to provide proof of what specifically linux infringes on, not only the IBM stuff, and has brought nothing but "the dog ate my homework". This despite two court orders to bring forward specifications like this.
The board is surely behind this and i suspect the SCO laywers are furious. Now they have to explain to the court why this was so damn hard to bring forward in a court with two orders hanging around their neck while it was this easy to tell the media.
Share price up tomorrow and then as theese unfounded allegations get shot down it will fall again.
Is it really ok for a predatory monopolist to attack a viable business alternative by whatever means possible? Compete on price, features, security and such is a ok but what they are doing now cant be all be dandy?
Most offenses they do is ok in isolated incidents but if you add them all up, can you show intended harm?
How much does a patent cost and is it time that we start patenting things to to have a war chest? There isnt like there is a lack of brilliant new ideas that have come out of open source projects.
Is it possible to start a fund that owns these patents? In short, how the heck do one protect itself from a litigous bastard like SCO and Microsoft? Even if youre innocent you still have to spend millions of $ and plenty of time.
The patent system is utterly broken if it can be used to squash competitors. He who patents the most obvious patents win.
I sure hope someone in the EU reads this memo and gets a clue or else we will have the same broken system in the EU.
Not having it would give us a great advantage over the US. If else it will be the asian and far east that will do most prograss in software and computers while we argue about who "invented" the 1 and 0!
Land of the free my ass. This is just an example of how the US misuse laws to detain uncomfortable people. Im just waiting for Michael Moore to be imprisoned for using the wrong kind of sunblock.
How is it that in the US you can say pretty much anything about muslims but call Israel (not jews as a group, the country damnit!) something you are toast? Free speech cant be selective you know.
Would it be better if he was against people of muslim faith and if he applauded the thousands of innocent iraqis killed because of the UN sanctions and the ongoing war?
I hate this double standard, cant take it anymore!